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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: kasperl on December 23, 2002, 01:40:48 pm
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since i've now got my own forum (in dutch) i'm getting problems moderating it, i've got people cursing on teachers, boasting about what they will hack, having they're usernames in all caps, etc. etc. etc.
anway, my question to yu guys is: how tight should i be?
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All admins should, in order to gain adminship rights, be me. If they are not me, they have no hope of doing it properly and should give up now and let me do as I please. Particularly those damn Gamespy tightasses- NOBODY bans me and gets away with it!
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Lay down some tyranical rules and some fair rules then impliment the tyranical ones at random instances.
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(as to stryke9's post)
outch, i don't think that any of the admins here will like that, and neither do i!!!
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1: Be as fair as YOU CAN (You're human...you'll **** up sometimes)
2: Warn ppl when they break a rule or just do something disruptive to the board yet not "written in stone"
3: If a warning fails to help,....temp ban, a few days, a week, perhaps even a month.
4: All else,.. complete ban,...but only as a last resort OR if someone REALLY crossed a line.
It really all depends on the boards. HLP used to be really tight on spam,....now a days it's not even all that concerned with it.
Hope this might help a little.
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I've found constant threats of banning, even for no reason, keep people in line, but the NW peeps generally aren't that unruly.
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Demand sexual favors in exchange for not IP-banning. Flame irritable newbies, then ban them for insulting an admin. Two days before each Christmas, ban everyone for a week, posting a message on the forum telling them to "get a life, losers". And lock any threads expressing opinions you disapprove of.
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ok, stryke9, i was actually looking for serious answers......:rolleyes:
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What'd you think those were? I was once an admin, too, ya know...
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Is there a clear focus, purpose or 'mission' for the forum? Trying to achieve something.. The more so, the tighter you need to be to keep the irritation level of regulars/core low enough, I guess. But if it's just for fun, then who cares too much...
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Holy ****, it's green.
No, this post had no other point than that. This is my content-free post for the day, I guess.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Holy ****, it's green
Drag a Xmas tree in a grayish dump like this.. cant avoid the influece ;)
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I thought that Windrunner had the only rights to green on this board.
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I think an admin should try to be there for his members at all times, but no way he should put up with every retard intelligent enough to use the internet. ban the most annoying ones, and tell everyone else that if they don't shape up, they're gonna be next.
oh, and you shouldn't have to warn them. they need to agree to your terms to sign up, right?
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Originally posted by kode
I think an admin should try to be there for his members at all times, but no way he should put up with every retard intelligent enough to use the internet. ban the most annoying ones, and tell everyone else that if they don't shape up, they're gonna be next.
oh, and you shouldn't have to warn them. they need to agree to your terms to sign up, right?
And in a short time you'll be the only member of your own board.
The point of a forum is to have ppl DISCUSS things, not to get a powertrip off it.
Thousands upon thousands of forums on the net, get ban happy,..and why the **** would ppl stay ?
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Originally posted by Warlock
Thousands upon thousands of forums on the net, get ban happy,..and why the **** would ppl stay ?
To watch me find a proxy and get banned again.
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Lay down clear guidelines for forum content and behaviour.
Give a user one warning when they act in-appropriately
Ban them for a week the second time they do it
Ban them permanently and get them to contact you the third time
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how tight should an admin be?
My first thought is, "Very. It feels better that way." That's probably not the answer you're looking for though.
Clear guidelines, a documented adjudication process, a tiered warning/discipline system and having auxilliary admins you trust are all good things.
Make sure that some of your admins are picked because they DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU on everything, but know how to discuss things rationally. Then, when the inevitible problems arise with users, you have admins who can argue both sides of the case (in private).
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Originally posted by mikhael
My first thought is, "Very. It feels better that way." That's probably not the answer you're looking for though.
That's so... so wrong! Think of the children man! :lol:
As for me, well I kinda linger between strict and not if you know what I mean. Spam is just going to happen at a certain point in a boards existance - you can either rage against it or live with it or do a bit of both depending on how much crap it is... in the end it's down to the boards focus and so on. I dont think I can't say anything else that hasn't already been said.
Good luck!
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Originally posted by Thunder
Think of the children man!
:wtf: Sick mofo.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
All admins should, in order to gain adminship rights, be me. If they are not me, they have no hope of doing it properly and should give up now and let me do as I please. Particularly those damn Gamespy tightasses- NOBODY bans me and gets away with it!
It's the holiday season, sending stryke on a break seems so......festive.
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Tthbt.
If you ban me, I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
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Originally posted by Warlock
And in a short time you'll be the only member of your own board.
The point of a forum is to have ppl DISCUSS things, not to get a powertrip off it.
Thousands upon thousands of forums on the net, get ban happy,..and why the **** would ppl stay ?
yeah, sure. banning people that, for example, flames n00bs is stupid, cuz any flaming retard vet is worth 10 good-for-nothing newbies...
Tell me, do you ever read through those rules that one unually has to agree to when you join a board? Basically, I just said that he should ban people disregarding those rules, maybe with a warning first. But hey, I can admit when I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am now.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Tthbt.
If you ban me, I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Alright.
You can talk again once the new year rolls around.
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*roars like a Wookie and rips Shrike's arms off*
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Originally posted by Shrike
Alright.
You can talk again once the new year rolls around.
Ohhh, poor stryke... where is he going to spend his new years spam orgy fest?
[size=-2]hmmm[/size]
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Warps... err... VW?
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Alright.
You can talk again once the new year rolls around.
:D :lol: :D
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Originally posted by kode
ban the most annoying ones...
if we did that here I could think of a few that would die...Vadar_1's already gone though, so that leaves only one....
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Uh-oh.
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Originally posted by kode
yeah, sure. banning people that, for example, flames n00bs is stupid, cuz any flaming retard vet is worth 10 good-for-nothing newbies...
Tell me, do you ever read through those rules that one unually has to agree to when you join a board? Basically, I just said that he should ban people disregarding those rules, maybe with a warning first. But hey, I can admit when I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am now.
I was meaning JUST banning them doesn't help. Half the time problems can be dealt with by an Admin talking to the member privately, then if needed ,...has Shrike just did to Stryke,.....ban them for a short time frame.
Sorry just from your first post it looked like you were saying just outright ban ppl completely for screwing up.
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Originally posted by Shrike
Alright.
You can talk again once the new year rolls around.
And Merry Christmas to you too Shrike :) :lol:
:D
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You can ban me, but another will take my place! And another! And another! HAAhahahaaa!
Now I just can't work on all the projects like I was planning to. Ah well... Too bad, tho, got MAX working for the season and everything.
And there was no talking privately, 'cos there is no issue. Shrike just envies my harem of fine women and aura of masculinity.
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Shouldn't that be 'harem of fine men' and 'aura of felinity'?
After all, who doesn't like a bit of pussy.
*hides from the Comedy-Police™©*
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You're the only pussy we need, dude.
Well, technically, that ain't true, but it sounded good. Sorta.
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I'm not a pussy. I just haven't showered since I crashed the lesbian orgy. The smell must be confusing you.
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And you'll be happy to know they're all now cured.
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I spies a sex-starved teenager posting :nod:
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:thepimp:
.. Oh .. Admins.. meh.. they all said it.. titans or something.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I spies a sex-starved teenager posting :nod:
No, that's just one of the midget lesbians hanging onto my back.
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And on an semi-related note, no matter how much sex you're getting, if you're a teenager it's never enough.
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Originally posted by an0n
And on an semi-related note, no matter how much sex you're getting, if you're a teenager it's never enough.
and after shouting, frostbite, and seeing asains fall on their ass at 30 kph, that's gotta be the most truthful statement I've seen all day.
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'Tis true.
Seriously though, you turn 20 and suddenly you can go for, like, ten whole minutes at a time without thinking about nekkid lay-deez. Very handy - especially if, like me, you never wear underwear :nod:
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I just don't wear pants...
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Seriously though, you turn 20 and suddenly you can go for, like, ten whole minutes at a time without thinking about nekkid lay-deez.
Meh. I can do that now. I can have incredible mental discipline if my subconcious decides it's needed.
Strangely enough, I think about naked ladies less when I'm actually talking to (Note: Not 'hitting on') a girl/woman/female-human/biznitch.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
- especially if, like me, you never wear underwear :nod:
And you felt this part needed to be made public why ? :wtf:
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You have a point..
except with me.. I never know or not.. because the minute I think realize that I haven't thought about naked women.. they immeadiatly come to mind.
So then I guess you'd have to go by how often they actually come to mind which brings up the original question which was...
meh. *opens up "My Pictures" *
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Originally posted by Ryder P. Moses
You can ban me, but another will take my place! And another! And another! HAAhahahaaa!
Now I just can't work on all the projects like I was planning to. Ah well... Too bad, tho, got MAX working for the season and everything.
And there was no talking privately, 'cos there is no issue. Shrike just envies my harem of fine women and aura of masculinity.
In case you didn't notice, you still have access to all your internal forums. You just lost posting rights. :p
I'll give them back when I didn't have a bad night.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
'Tis true.
Seriously though, you turn 20 and suddenly you can go for, like, ten whole minutes at a time without thinking about nekkid lay-deez. Very handy - especially if, like me, you never wear underwear :nod:
Ha, speak for yourself buddy. But going commando is liberating, if slightly chafing sometimes.
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anon you need to be shot :rolleyes:
Shrike you need to get on ICQ and tell me why you had a bad nite :p
and kasperl an admin needs to recognize that spamming and cursing are things that people will always do. If you want to eliminate those from serious topics then make one area of your board where people are allowed to do those things. N00bs never read rules :doubt: so post about this in your index forum descriptions ("Spam/profanity is/is not allowed here") as well as in your rules. When you see material that is profane or irrelevant to a particular area's category just move it to the spam area. If someone repeatedly does this to the point where you waste too much time cleaning up their crap then warn them. If they persist or respond maliciously then they don't care about your board, your members, or your time so ban them.
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Shrike: Yeah, but PMs don't work, now DO they?:p
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This thread is like a broken pencil.
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Which end, eraser or lead?
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Originally posted by Ryder P. Moses
Shrike: Yeah, but PMs don't work, now DO they?:p
I've had my laugh, I'm just waiting.
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Well, here's the rules I laid down when I modded @ spacebattles....though I've updated them since the last time they were written was back in early 2001. :p
1. Spam. I don't mind the occasional joke thread or something thats really amusing but don't make a habit of posting every damn joke you find in its own thread or something. Also, posting just to increase your postcount is not tolerated. Doing so will result in a deduction of 100 posts for each +1 post. Repeat violations will result in a two-week ban.
2. Flaming. As long as it doesn't get too bad, I'll turn a blind eye. However, racial insults is one thing that I have zero tolerance for. I'll ban your ass on the spot. If you can't keep a cool head (ie: flaming every post) then I'll leave a warning to cool it. If you continue, then I'll close the thread and leave you a second warning in your PM box or e-mail inbox if you don't have PMs enabled. If you insist on continuing, I will ban you for two weeks. After that time, you will be on probation for an additional month. Keep it up, and you're gone for good. I will not tolerate trolls harassing members.
3. Warez. This is something that I will not have on my forum. Talk about this elsewhere. I will only give one warning, and this is it. Discuss it here (as far as providing links to such websites, etc. I don't mind if you're *discussing* the TOPIC of warez.) and you get the boot.
4. Pornographic material. Again, I have zero tolerance for porn on this forum. There are underage members here and I do not appreciate such material being posted here. There are plenty of other places to discuss such material. Go find one.
5. If you have a problem with any moderator, please go by the following guidelines:
a. Contact the moderator in question privately and try to resolve things in a civil manner.
b. If you cannot resolve the issue, contact a Super-moderator and explain the problem WITHOUT resorting to flaming the moderator in question. (You'll find that this works quite well when trying to solve personal problems.)
c. If you STILL can't get it taken care of, contact one of the board administrators. They are the supreme authority and the entire staff must listen to them if they want to keep their jobs.
Do NOT post your gripes in a new thread. I will delete it on sight and not give it a second thought. If a second post is made, you will be banned.
Please note that the forum I modded used vBulletin software (same software this forum uses) so the particular board you have may not have the ability to grant members Super-moderator capability. The only other forum software that does this out-of-the-box is phpBB. There may be others, but I haven't had any experience with other software (other than UBB 5.x, vB 1.x & 2.x, and phpBB 1.4.x) so I couldn't tell you. :)
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If you create a close community and get to know everyone personally - especially from an admin (vertical) perspective (lateral relations are even better, but you can't directly get people to be friends), and educate everyone (so they won't do anything overtly stupid), adminning becomes very easy - no-one really wants to abuse the system because they share it with people who have become their respected friends and colleagues. :)
I think that's the best way to do it, personally - disciplinary actions, while a crucial part of any admin outfit, are more of a fallback rather than the principal way to create a good community. When you push people too much and for the wrong reasons (or for no given reason at all except 'admin purposes'), people either push back or leave - neither of which is really desirable.
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ARGH!
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Are you just following him around making noises now?
Anyway- one vital key to becoming a good admin: NOT BANNING ME. It's an immediate tip-off that it's time for regime change. *ahem*
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Hehe. How many more days till you can post again?
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I can do it right now. I'm ditching the old handle- I was getting tired of it anyway, which is why I made this one in the first place.
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Originally posted by Ryder P. Moses
I can do it right now. I'm ditching the old handle- I was getting tired of it anyway, which is why I made this one in the first place.
does that mean I've got to change my sig?
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It's YOUR sig, I dunno. Everyone still knows who Fattony is, never mind he, ah, ain't here no more.:D
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Firstly, I'll address the above post with a :wtf:
Secondly:
Originally posted by Ryder P. Moses
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Are you just following him around making noises now?
~-=™! BLOOP! No. I've just got ****ING WITCH tourettes BASTARDS. !™=-~
Anyway- one vital key to becoming a good admin: NOT BANNING ME. It's an immediate tip-off that it's time for regime change. *ahem*
~-=™! Duh. That's why MOTHER****ER he came ASSES back. To depose ****wit Shrike !™=-~
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Originally posted by an0n
~-=™! Duh. That's why MOTHER****ER he came ASSES back. To depose ****wit Shrike !™=-~
I gave you an opportunity to be an admin, but you failed. You didn't take it.
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What the hell are you on about?
Ignoring the apparent irrelevance of the quote, I'm gonna guess this has something to do with girls in crates or Estonian girl's phone numbers.
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Shrike: Go on, make me an admin.
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I'm waiting...
:D
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If you make him an admin, he will probably ban you immediately. how about me instead? :D
this thread has really become messed up...
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Everyone already knows exactly what I'd do upon being made an admin. I posted Coup instructions in another thread a while back.
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If I was an admin, I'd close this thread.
Oh wait.....