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Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: aldo_14 on December 26, 2002, 04:03:18 pm
Anyone got an idea of a decent RTS (I guess... maybe a squd based shoot-em-up, though that wouldn't be as good) I could do a connon fodder mod in?  Wouldn't take much  - about 2 character models and, er, maybe some new weapons & sounds.   Play the GBC (or Pc / amiga if anyone's still got it) version to see what i mean :D
Title: Re: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: 01010 on December 26, 2002, 04:05:37 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Anyone got an idea of a decent RTS (I guess... maybe a squd based shoot-em-up, though that wouldn't be as good) I could do a connon fodder mod in?  Wouldn't take much  - about 2 character models and, er, maybe some new weapons & sounds.   Play the GBC (or Pc / amiga if anyone's still got it) version to see what i mean :D


Cannon Fodder was/is the best RTS ever. Made you think and you really cared about the little guys. Never completed the first one. Got as far as mission 8 phase 2 then got stuck. Don't make them like that anymore..
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Redfang on December 26, 2002, 04:49:01 pm
Cannon Fodder? :wtf:
 
 
Ooh! The game I played so much in the year 199x. I never completed it either, but it was a nice game. Too bad I can't find it anymore (though haven't searched either :p), and if I could, it'd be some demo version, and if I could find demo/full version, it wouldn't work on my computer.
 
I think I've played only the first one, and got to around level ~21, and then the game just crashed... though I might remember wrong (but it sure crashed at some point).
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Ryx on December 26, 2002, 04:55:01 pm
That game was a blast! :D

I never completed it either, though. :o

The game became easier, when I learned to seperate the squad. :drevil:
Title: Re: Re: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: ZylonBane on December 26, 2002, 05:01:39 pm
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Originally posted by 01010
Cannon Fodder was/is the best RTS ever.
Cannon Fodder wasn't an RTS *at all*. :rolleyes: It was all tactics.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Nico on December 26, 2002, 08:00:54 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Cannon Fodder wasn't an RTS *at all*. :rolleyes: It was all tactics.


not even, I would almost say it was script based, you needed your guys placed at the right place at the right time, and a pixel off, you were dead :doubt:
was fun, but too dificult ( the latest missions were terrible ). couldn't finish it.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: ZylonBane on December 26, 2002, 08:17:37 pm
Were you playing it on a console or a computer? Cannon Fodder was designed for mouse play, so the console gaming experience was a whole new level of Hell. I had to resort to a walkthrough to finish the Jaguar version.

Yeah, nothing says fun like having your entire squad wiped out by a rocket from a soldier who's not even onscreen. Or by a soldier hiding behind a tree with supernaturally perfect aim. Or an invisible land mine.

What is it about Euro game programmers that "fair" doesn't seem to be part of their vocabulary?
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Solatar on December 26, 2002, 09:37:14 pm
I played Cannon Fodder for Gameboy Color once. Kinda sucked.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Nico on December 27, 2002, 06:15:56 am
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Were you playing it on a console or a computer? Cannon Fodder was designed for mouse play, so the console gaming experience was a whole new level of Hell. I had to resort to a walkthrough to finish the Jaguar version.

Yeah, nothing says fun like having your entire squad wiped out by a rocket from a soldier who's not even onscreen. Or by a soldier hiding behind a tree with supernaturally perfect aim. Or an invisible land mine.

What is it about Euro game programmers that "fair" doesn't seem to be part of their vocabulary?


It was on PC. It is very old. Back then games were difficult and impossible to finish in 5 hours. Actually i wonder if I don't prefer short games :doubt: "Thinks of lemmings" ...That said, no, i don't.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: 01010 on December 27, 2002, 07:05:32 am
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Originally posted by ZylonBane

What is it about Euro game programmers that "fair" doesn't seem to be part of their vocabulary?


What is it about Americans that means games that are difficult aren't "fair"?
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: ZylonBane on December 27, 2002, 10:10:11 am
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Originally posted by 01010
What is it about Americans that means games that are difficult aren't "fair"?
What is it about 01010 that he can't tell the difference between "difficult" and "impossible unless you can see into the future"?
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: 01010 on December 27, 2002, 10:57:25 am
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
What is it about 01010 that he can't tell the difference between "difficult" and "impossible unless you can see into the future"?


Well, seeing into the future wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference if you couldn't do the mission in the first place would it?

It wasn't impossible just incredibly ****ing difficult, if I was inclined to I could go back and complete the game now I reckon.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on December 27, 2002, 02:00:04 pm
Games are meant to have a chaleenge to them, just look at OFP: Resistance. Hardesy freakin game I've ever played. Gives you some mental excersise.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: ZylonBane on December 27, 2002, 03:00:47 pm
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Originally posted by 01010
Well, seeing into the future wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference if you couldn't do the mission in the first place would it?
It would make a difference if you couldn't "do" the mission because you kept getting killed by things that you didn't know about until after they'd already killed you. Duh.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: aldo_14 on December 28, 2002, 07:52:04 am
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
It would make a difference if you couldn't "do" the mission because you kept getting killed by things that you didn't know about until after they'd already killed you. Duh.


No, you can;t do it.  Doesn't mean the same for everyone.  'sides which, the GBC version (the one i have) is pretty intuitive.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: ZylonBane on December 28, 2002, 10:43:30 am
Um Aldo, you kind of missed the "if" in there.

Besides which, in an indirect fashion we all can see into the future. Once you restart the mission, you know what's going to happen... up to the point you got killed last time, anyway.
Title: Re: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Setekh on December 28, 2002, 08:38:58 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
a connon fodder mod


Wow, I haven't heard that name in years... I loved that game. :nod: The little guys die too easily, that's my only criticism - made the missions impossible to complete later on. Boy, does anyone know where to download it still?
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 28, 2002, 08:51:32 pm
UD (http://www.the-underdogs.org) has a copy of CF2, and most old game stores have #1.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Setekh on December 28, 2002, 09:19:03 pm
Ahhh, cheers. :)
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Alikchi on December 28, 2002, 09:39:01 pm
For what it's worth, here's the link to the CF2 download:

http://files.the-underdogs.org:8080/games/c/cannon2/files/cannon2.zip
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 28, 2002, 09:42:25 pm
Click some banners while you're there- that's how she pays for bandwidth.
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Levyathan on December 28, 2002, 09:59:59 pm
I might as well help a bit too... They got Shock 1 with speech for download!
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Setekh on December 28, 2002, 10:33:33 pm
And they've got Flashback: Quest for Identity... that game rocks! Alright, I'll click. ;)
Title: Cannon Fodder!
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 28, 2002, 10:35:23 pm
Yep... HOTU is the top abandonware site online, has been for years. Means the IDSA assholes pay a bit more attention to it than other places, but it's still good.