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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: mikhael on December 27, 2002, 09:02:58 pm
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The main drive in my fileserver decided to die today, in the middle of a write.
It took with it almost every creative idea I've ever had, every single piece of source code I've ever written, every bit of my email, resumes, documentation, graphical work and all my Truespace models, scenes and textures AND all the renders thereof.
Oh yeah: and the backups? Both this months and last months are corrupt. Alternating media is NOT A1 SUPAR.
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Outch dude.
I had something like this a couple of months ago. Not good. Not good at all.
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Maybe you can recover the files, somehow?
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Originally posted by mikhael
The main drive in my fileserver decided to die today, in the middle of a write.
It took with it almost every creative idea I've ever had, every single piece of source code I've ever written, every bit of my email, resumes, documentation, graphical work and all my Truespace models, scenes and textures AND all the renders thereof.
Oh yeah: and the backups? Both this months and last months are corrupt. Alternating media is NOT A1 SUPAR.
Ouch. I know how you feel, having lost a lot of my own stuff a while back when my HD died. I managed to recover a good portion of it, though.
The scary thing is, a few minutes ago while I was typing this reply, my computer crashed the exact same way it did at the time when I lost my HD, and when I rebooted it it didn't find one of my discs. I almost freaked out, it would be, like, the worst coincidence ever.
:p
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Nah. The worst coincidence ever would have to be way worse than that. Like, while someone is watching Armageddon and saying "That's never gonna happen!" a meteor hits the Earth.
I'd like to see that happen.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Maybe you can recover the files, somehow?
I've tried everything. Its an old SCSI drive. I suspect the problem is in the drive electronics and not the platters or heads. I can't get the SCSI controller to do more than ID the drive (and it only does that interittently). Even when the machine does manage to ID the drive, accesses to the drive fail completely, usually locking up the SCSI subsystem.
My best idea right now is to try to find someone selling the same model of drive and use the logic board off the back of it to control the hardware from this one. I've done that before on IDE drives successfully.
The most upsetting thing is the loss of the story/game ideas and all the Truespace work. The work wasn't all that hot, but it represents a huge investment of my life--and it had a lot of sentimental value. The programming stuff is of only slightly lesser importance: I had just gotten the beginnings of a framework for a sprite/tile based RPG engine put together using libSDL and C++. :(
Luckily, the Lightwave stuff is on another drive, on another computer. I've setup a scheduled task to compress and transfer the stuff to both local backups (Zip) and to a friends file server regularly.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Nah. The worst coincidence ever would have to be way worse than that. Like, while someone is watching Armageddon and saying "That's never gonna happen!" a meteor hits the Earth.
I'd like to see that happen.
Somehow, I don't think you would.
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http://www.descentbb.net/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004544.html
Maybe you can try what he did.
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this happened to a friend of mine... in the end he did manage to recover everything, but he didn't do it himself.
He took the drive to Compaq (i think) and for a price, they did all these tests, and recovered in the end MOST of the drive.
that may be an option, calling Compaq and asking them what they can do. they may sell sucky computers/computer components, but they may just be able to help
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They only do that for their own machines though, right? (i.e. manufactured by Compaq)
I better do a backup as well sometime soon, just in case...
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If you really really really want your stuff back (and you're prepared to pay dearly for it), here is the company for it:
http://www.ibas.com
they are like the gods of data recovery.
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
http://www.descentbb.net/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004544.html
Maybe you can try what he did.
I read through that. Unfortunately, none of it helps me. The problem here isn't the MEDIA, its the drive electronics. The disc spins up and the heads track, so the problem isn't mechanica. There was no head crash, so I'm pretty sure the platters are okay.
That leaves, really, the drive electronics--which would explain why the sCSI card can see the drive ID sometimes, but not always, and why attempts to stat the drive from the SCSI BIOS tools block. I'm going to try getting my hands on a logic board for this drive and see if I can get the data off that way.
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thats why 25 in a box CD's are good for :D just backed up evry single bit of data i have :D
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Backups are good. I wish I had important data just so that I could make a backup of it.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
thats why 25 in a box CD's are good for :D just backed up evry single bit of data i have :D
Originally posted by mikhael
Oh yeah: and the backups? Both this months and last months are corrupt.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Backups are good. I wish I had important data just so that I could make a backup of it.
:D
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I've never had a hard disk die on me. I feel left out :(
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I've never had a hard disk die on me. I feel left out :(
Same here, but i don't quite consider it a bad thing... ;)
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once it happened to me, only once (thankfully) and all i lost was about 3000 MP3s...
my friend lost about 7000 MP3s, dozens of programs, and all his work files... heh
good thing Compaq was able to recover it
Oh, and the drive wasn't a compaq drive either... he hates compaq, it was a western digital drive he'd bought and installed in the computer he built, but his friend at Compaq did it for him
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Well then it would be that he had connections, not that compaq recovers anyones drives then, wouldn't it?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Well then it would be that he had connections, not that compaq recovers anyones drives then, wouldn't it?
no, it would be that you have to go to a compaq outlet, and ask around there.
actually now that i think of it, i believe Compaq's headquarters is (was!?) in Houston, because we've got the Compaq center, and downtown there's a massive compaq buildling, and then closer to my home there's a Compaq outlet, and i know of another big one, like a warehouse, it's got its own streets and stuff it's so big. i think all the scientists that design and work on plans for hard drives, computers, and stuff are here, and i think my friend took it to one of these people (which he knew) to have it fixed.
nonetheless, i'm sure it's a lead you should follow :nod: :)
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Originally posted by mikhael
The main drive in my fileserver decided to die today, in the middle of a write.
It took with it almost every creative idea I've ever had, every single piece of source code I've ever written, every bit of my email, resumes, documentation, graphical work and all my Truespace models, scenes and textures AND all the renders thereof.
Oh yeah: and the backups? Both this months and last months are corrupt. Alternating media is NOT A1 SUPAR.
Awww man, that's bad. :( I've had this happen to me too, once... it's a pain. But don't worry, you'll rebuild; even if you don't really mean to, just keep living. You've got us... ;)
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Originally posted by Stealth
once it happened to me, only once (thankfully) and all i lost was about 3000 MP3s...
my friend lost about 7000 MP3s, dozens of programs, and all his work files... heh
good thing Compaq was able to recover it
Oh, and the drive wasn't a compaq drive either... he hates compaq, it was a western digital drive he'd bought and installed in the computer he built, but his friend at Compaq did it for him
7000 mp3s!!!! thats some 15-16 gigs!!! :jaw:
no wonder why HD drives continually increase in size. this is a serious case of HD abuse. :wtf:
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Originally posted by Stunaep
7000 mp3s!!!! thats some 15-16 gigs!!! :jaw:
no wonder why HD drives continually increase in size. this is a serious case of HD abuse. :wtf:
I don't know if it is... I've got about 16 gigs, which to me is 2200 mp3s... But then I've got some marathon trance discs too... 75 minutes each... but yeah... possibly.
And yeah, it is HD abuse. I'm kind of ashamed of it...
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Originally posted by kode
And yeah, it is HD abuse. I'm kind of ashamed of it...
no it's not.. Hard Drives are meant to store information. MP3s are meant to be downloaded/ripped :D :nod:
yeah, i've only got 3000 or so, but out of those 3000 only about 2500 are downloaded, the rest are ripped from my CDs. i've also got quite a few soundtracks (fellowship of the ring, xXx, two towers (my latest download... 19 tracks), star wars soundtracks, etc.) which constitute quite a few of the songs :D
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Originally posted by Stealth
it was a western digital drive he'd bought and installed in the computer he built, but his friend at Compaq did it for him
No wonder it failed. POS Western Digital. I had four out of five drives from them fail on me. You couldn't PAY me to get another drive from them. *pats his 45 gigger from IBM* I'm gonna get a Maxtor in a few days since I don't like having only one hard drive. :)
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
I'm gonna get a Maxtor in a few days since I don't like having only one hard drive. :)
"Anything beyond a 20 gigabyte hard disk will just end up as an extension to your recycle bin" :)
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I have two IBM 75GB ata100s; one came with the computer and I picked up a second one cheap from a garage sale. Of course, I have only used up 60GB total so far, but it's always nice to have extra room. :D They have been working quite well so far without any failures or anything, although I do remember having this sudden hard drive crash experience on an older computer one or two times; this is one of the worst things that can happen to a person IMO if there are no backups.
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
"Anything beyond a 20 gigabyte hard disk will just end up as an extension to your recycle bin" :)
Nah, it'll be used for a Linux install and for backup storage when necessary.
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
Nah, it'll be used for a Linux install and for backup storage when necessary.
You're right about that. Backups are good.
*Thinks about last year*
*shrugs*
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
No wonder it failed. POS Western Digital. I had four out of five drives from them fail on me. You couldn't PAY me to get another drive from them. *pats his 45 gigger from IBM* I'm gonna get a Maxtor in a few days since I don't like having only one hard drive. :)
*pat's two IBM 20 giggers, one IBM 40 gigger, one IBM 80 gigger*
The best hard disk investments I've ever made. And some people says IBM is teh crap. I say it's not. Western Digital however, is a totally different story...
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Originally posted by CP5670
I picked up a second one cheap from a garage sale.
I have yet to find any cheap internal (good) computer component at a garage sale :( :(
they're always either too old to be of use, or too expensive
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Originally posted by kode
*pat's two IBM 20 giggers, one IBM 40 gigger, one IBM 80 gigger*
The best hard disk investments I've ever made. And some people says IBM is teh crap. I say it's not. Western Digital however, is a totally different story...
To be fair, alot of IBM 75GXP's have been failing, but thats only because people are too damned ignorant to have proper airflow in their cases.
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
To be fair, alot of IBM 75GXP's have been failing, but thats only because people are too damned ignorant to have proper airflow in their cases.
well... given the right/wrong circumstances, everything fails.