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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stryke 9 on January 02, 2003, 10:34:05 pm
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Is it wrong to delude newbies to a certain forum into believing that they need to become attached to a certain "vet" and do his bidding for him in order to avoid an unspecified "trouble" from other boardmembers and gain access to certain valuable, rare software controlled by said vet?
And is it wrong to attempt to form a horde out of these newbies and shut down the board, only to have it rebuilt with the aforementioned member as Admin/King?
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These internet morals things just seem so abstract and relative to me... it's hard to tell what's what.
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Have you actually tried doing this with anyone? :D
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Just recently. The newbie still hasn't responded, but he seems pretty clueless... so long as none of the other established members screw it up for me, my power grab has begun. Was just double-checking in case, you know, this sort of thing is frowned upon.
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I've found it works to great effect.
*whistles*
*watches Stryke prepare him a meal*
As for morality, I tend to skate away from any such arguments and simply do whatever benefits me the most without compromising my evilness and dark power.
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Hmm, now that you've told us we can blackmail by saying we'll reveal this little evil plot of yours to said Idiot. :p :drevil:
But then again you're always so anonymous about such issues...
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Who said it was me?
Oh, wait, crap, I did. Never mind.
You still don't know what forum, or what newbie though, so your miserable little plan will fail. Nothing can stop me now. Mwuhahahaaa-hahahahahaaa
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Originally posted by StrykeIX
Is it wrong...
My gut reaction to any form of deception would have to be yes. Sorry. :ick
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Err... well.. we.. can... err... find out! -- K's Brilliant Idea of the Day/Month/Whatever-time-period-you-damn-well-please
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Aw, man, does that mean I have to take down the "warez page" full of links to different viruses, too?
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Don't you ever have problems with these sort of sites when you try to get warez?
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Hazard of the trade. 'S why you only download from Russian sites, or at least sites where the author didn't spell everything in numbers.
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Apart from that some russian chicks are rather hot, why Russian?
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They've got the best warez setup. Don't ask me why- outside of the major rings (which go up and down pretty quickly), the Russians are pretty much the best and safest source, with the most variety and consistently decent cracks (not the best ever, but hey). Kinda hard to read their pages, though.
Anyway, that's irrelevant.
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Because they hate capitalism.. duuuh
Programs for $1500 trying to sell to teenagers who want to make their favorite porn star model into quake is just wrong and utterly capitalist.. seems kinda ovious why, no?
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Erm.. rather Milkshape is for that....
3ds/lightwave/XSI tend to be for pros...
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Quiet you. The principal is the same. :p
oh and nice touch to the edit ;)
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It's actually the original :p
it was changed 'cause someone pointed it out to be distasteful...
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distasteful.. hmmm
[l]*doesn't get it*[/l]
never mind, god that was wrong
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Still waters... don't run at all.
Somebody do something entertaining, dammit.
You. Yeah, you. The fruitcake. Dance. Now.
[tosses loose change]
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I tend to think of morality as personnal honor. To me honor is doing the right thing even when no one is looking and no one will ever know. I'm sure that any one of even mediocre intelligence can figure out from this where i stand on this question. If you are decieving someone, or turning them basically into a slave.......it's wrong. That wasn't done to me, it shouldn't be done to anyone else.
I always thought that teaching newbies was how we ensured the survival of our community.
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
I always thought that teaching newbies was how we ensured the survival of our community.
But they don't need teaching. At least not here.
Of course this is what I think... :)
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I'm rather certain he doesn't care of the survival of that particular community.....
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Hey! You should see my conversation in the interviews' private...
And mister, I very much care about the survival of this community, more than you think I do.
But give me a reason why should they need teaching?
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I meant Stryke...
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what i meant by teaching was teaching them some new skills. I am learning to model, to UV map, to texture, and to pof. When i got here i could fred. The more people that we have being active, the more people that can help with what really keeps us going: The Source Code Project, and mods. That's the reason for teaching new people. Some people are going to come here just to get the mods we produce. Some are going to come here just to get as many avatars as they can. But some will come here and want to do what we do here. We create. We create wonderful toys, and wonderful environments in which to play with our toys. New people getting active are what keep us alive. alot of the old guard is gone, who will do what they do? The new people. That's why we teach them.....or at least that's why i teach them what i know. I teach so that they can create, and that gives back to the people who have been creating.
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I meant Stryke...
:o
what i meant by teaching was teaching them some new skills. I am learning to model, to UV map, to texture, and to pof. When i got here i could fred. The more people that we have being active, the more people that can help with what really keeps us going: The Source Code Project, and mods. That's the reason for teaching new people. Some people are going to come here just to get the mods we produce. Some are going to come here just to get as many avatars as they can. But some will come here and want to do what we do here. We create. We create wonderful toys, and wonderful environments in which to play with our toys. New people getting active are what keep us alive. alot of the old guard is gone, who will do what they do? The new people. That's why we teach them.....or at least that's why i teach them what i know. I teach so that they can create, and that gives back to the people who have been creating.
Yeah...that can be good...
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Originally posted by StrykeIX
Is it wrong
Yes, but that never has stopped you, has it?:D
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[pauses]
Stunaep: Good point- I forgot all about that. Thanks!
[dashes off]
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
But give me a reason why should they need teaching?
It took me a full year to learn what little I know about texturing and mapping, and its still not that impressive; I still can't model worth sh*t, not geometrically stable models atleast; and my ability to edit pof data ends at subsystems. What few tutorials can be found are either incomprehensive to a 'newbie' or incomplete in what a 'newbie' needs to know. In fact, the only tutorial that I've found clear is the Fred2 tutorial that comes with FS2.
Having someone to teach a newcomer the skills involved in modding shortens the learning time; given how much of the FS2 community remains, time is something we don't have much of. You can either take someone under your wing and help them help the community or you can be a lazy bum and do nothing and watch as whats left withers away.
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Yeah- that's it! Dance! Dance faster!
You pontificating freak.
:D
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Originally posted by StrykeIX
They've got the best warez setup. Don't ask me why- outside of the major rings (which go up and down pretty quickly), the Russians are pretty much the best and safest source, with the most variety and consistently decent cracks (not the best ever, but hey). Kinda hard to read their pages, though.
Guys, while I'm all for continuing the conversation, I have to point out...
From the HLP FAQ (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/faq)
Here at HLP we DO NOT condone warez. In fact, we hate it with a vengeance. It is illegal and we will not allow it. Any posts containing links or suggestions about them will be deleted or locked, and the people who posted them will be warned.
We have a responsibility not just to ourselves but to our hosts. If you must have them, keep those kinds of discussions behind your own doors. :shaking:
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now turn to your admin roots and lock the beast setekh. you know you feel it. Release your anger! ;7
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yes, it is moraly wrong. if you're evil, do it as much as you want, and more than that, even :p
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Originally posted by Setekh
We have a responsibility not just to ourselves but to our hosts. If you must have them, keep those kinds of discussions behind your own doors. :shaking:
There were no links or suggestions, as far as I can see. It was a mere comment.