Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 05:26:06 am

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 05:26:06 am

After talking about movies for a while with my brother and sister (the conversation arose for some reason... forget why), my sister said something which made me think...

"[about horror movies] I just can't believe someone would even imagine these things... it's terrible, I hate seeing them..."

I personally can't handle scary movies - the purposefully scary ones like The Exorcist, Silence of the Lambs, The Haunting - though I can handle 'occasional scares' in movies like the LOTR series. ;)

Anyway, I myself don't know anyone who really really likes horror movies... then I thought of you guys. :D Out of curiosity, do any of you guys like horror movies? If you do, why? And if you don't, why not?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 04, 2003, 05:34:30 am

Horror movies like "The night of the living dead" or "Braindeath" makes me laugh. But the Hannibal Lecter trilogy was sometimes pretty scary indeed.

And I'm not scared to watch dead bodies or blood or mutant zombies but those BANG! places, where some big piece of junk jumpes out of the corner freak me out...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: 01010 on January 04, 2003, 05:39:57 am

Typical American teeny slasher films are laughable, they rely on the easy scare, only problem being it's been done to death and you can predict it a mile away nowadays.

I found that the best kind of horror films are the ones that you can relate to in some way. Like The Blair Witch Project, I could relate to being in the woods at night and hearing "things" so that film frayed my nerves quite a bit. But "Scream" and their ilk nah.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 05:52:44 am

Quote

Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
And I'm not scared to watch dead bodies or blood or mutant zombies but those BANG! places, where some big piece of junk jumpes out of the corner freak me out...

No no, neither. I mean those really horrifying ones. The ones that send a shiver down your spine, and make you paranoid whenever you walk through dark places... :nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 04, 2003, 05:54:05 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh


No no, neither. I mean those really horrifying ones. The ones that send a shiver down your spine, and make you paranoid whenever you walk through dark places... :nervous:

Britney Spears?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Fetty on January 04, 2003, 05:56:37 am

when i first watched jurrasic park i was scared of velociraptors i didnt wana close my eyes when going to sleep :nervous:
but yes britney has my vote :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 06:33:25 am

Quote

Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
Britney Spears?

Dude. Talk about adding a whole new dimension to fear. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 04, 2003, 06:36:01 am

I get paranoid in urban environments after playing too many FPSs. any window could contain a sniper.
:nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stunaep on January 04, 2003, 06:39:57 am

Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon is DA BEST!!!!

Hannibal was more sort of a black humor film. I don't consider them as much horror movies, as psychological thrillers. Horror movies have zombies/vampires/britney in it. But SOTL was, well one of the best movies I've ever seen. It's good to watch it alone from a tv, because it not only makes you thrilled and scared as hell, but it also makes you wonder about stuff and the world and so on. It's also good to watch it in a cinema, on the last row, with a freaked out girlfriend at your side.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Fineus on January 04, 2003, 06:49:59 am

I don't like most horror movies - but for a different reason. They aren't scary, they're funny! The mere sight of the little girl bouncing up and down on her bed screaming "make it stop" didn't horrify me, it mildly amused me.

However, the Exorcist did scare me. But not for the right reasons - I have a deep fear of medical equipment such that was used on the girl to see what could be wrong with her. I don't know why but it just freaks me out. Suffice to say I fast-forward past those bits whenever they come on. The rest of the movie? Really not that bad...

Suffice to say, I don't really like horror movies. Not unless there's another element to them. But Silence of The Lambs wasn't a horror movie to me - I enjoyed that.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 07:00:01 am

Quote

Originally posted by Stunaep
Horror movies have zombies/vampires/britney in it.

I always wondered what defined the genre. :D

I don't mind horror/scary stuff with a purpose. A Clockwork Orange or Event Horizon, for example. LOTR stuff scares me in a different way - more in an awesome way - and I think the stuff which scares you more is that which makes you wonder about the terror that comes from human nature - twisted, maniacal. :shaking:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 04, 2003, 08:33:11 am

I normally ignore horror movies, but I did go see The Ring recently. Very creepy, even though it got a little cheesy near the end.

On the other hand, I vastly enjoy spoof horror films like Night of the Creeps, Return of the Living Dead, Pandemonium, Evil Dead series, et al.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: beatspete on January 04, 2003, 08:37:18 am

I never watch many horror movies anyway, i jsut end up trying to guess who the bad guy is etc instead of watching the film.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 04, 2003, 09:27:38 am

Four movies:

Alien
Aliens
Alien3
Alien: Resurrection

The first one scared the absolute living hell out of me (I actually soiled myself :o )

I love any movie thats supposed to be scary; Sixth Sense, SOTL, Predator..... the list goes on and on

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 04, 2003, 09:32:34 am

depends. The Ring ( the original one, thank you ) was really... disturbing :p
I like a lot.
Movies like braindead are funny, but then again, that WAS the main purpose, braindead was meant to be funny ( little quizz, who made braindead? :D ).

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: 01010 on January 04, 2003, 09:34:37 am

Quote

Originally posted by nuclear1
Alien3
Alien: Resurrection

No no no no no. No.

No no no no no no no no no, Alien was classic thriller/suspense/horror, Aliens was classic balls to the floor action film.

Alien3 and Resurrection were, well, horrible really.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: 01010 on January 04, 2003, 09:35:46 am

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
depends. The Ring ( the original one, thank you ) was really... disturbing :p
I like a lot.
Movies like braindead are funny, but then again, that WAS the main purpose, braindead was meant to be funny ( little quizz, who made braindead? :D ).

Wasn't that a Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell film?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 04, 2003, 09:43:38 am

Quote

Originally posted by 01010


No no no no no. No.

No no no no no no no no no, Alien was classic thriller/suspense/horror, Aliens was classic balls to the floor action film.

Alien3 and Resurrection were, well, horrible really.

oh.... yeah. :D forgot bout that.... :lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 04, 2003, 09:51:14 am

Quote

Originally posted by 01010


Wasn't that a Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell film?

no, that's evil dead.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stunaep on January 04, 2003, 09:54:14 am

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
( little quizz, who made braindead? :D ).

Peter Jackson.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 04, 2003, 09:56:19 am

Quote

Originally posted by Stunaep

Peter Jackson.

yup :yes:
yeah, I find that funny, so what? :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stunaep on January 04, 2003, 09:57:30 am

good, now I want my cookie.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Borealis on January 04, 2003, 10:05:49 am

I really only like horror movies with a supernatural or alien premise to them.  Slasher flicks put me to sleep.  The more realistic the effects and the more the background info ties in with RL the more I'll get absorbed.  And of course there must be plenty of action and explosions.  :wink:

And a freaked out boyfriend at my side is great fun too (even if I know he's just pretending ;7 )

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: LtNarol on January 04, 2003, 10:11:15 am

Quote

Originally posted by Borealis
I really only like horror movies with a supernatural or alien premise to them.  Slasher flicks put me to sleep.  The more realistic the effects and the more the background info ties in with RL the more I'll get absorbed.  And of course there must be plenty of action and explosions.

Damn! Never thought I'd say it but for once I concur. :lol:

Option 2 naturally

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stunaep on January 04, 2003, 10:15:36 am

Quote

Originally posted by Borealis

And a freaked out boyfriend at my side is great fun too (even if I know he's just pretending ;7 )[/color] [/B]

Quiet, you! :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Unknown Target on January 04, 2003, 10:18:49 am

Give me a pillow.
Preferably a titanium pillow with a mini-shivan bodygaurd and laser cannons.
Although a regular pillow would do fine :D
Although "gotcha" scenes, or scary suspense scenes in non-horror movies are fine.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Hudzy on January 04, 2003, 10:31:40 am

I don't like stuff with werewolves in it. :nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Dark_4ce on January 04, 2003, 02:46:55 pm

I for one love horror movies for some odd reason! I love it how something visual can create a feeling of unease and FEAR, even tough you're in your  own living room, you still get that feeling of impending doom. I for one always get TOO into a movie anyway. Be it any movie. But only rarely do I hide behind a pillow during a TRUE Horror movie. IMHO a true horror movie are those that stick in your mind afterwards and freak you out. Not teeny slashers nor gore movies. Those are fun but forgetable (except Evil Dead series or PJ's Brain Dead and Bad Taste). I Personally also consider Thriller and horror movies seperate very thinly, having true horror movies being the ones that freak you out, disturbing you, and being afraid, such as the Exorcist (for some), The Ring (for others) and basically any movie that would keep you awake at night. I consider classifying any movie a Horror movie just a personal label really, cause what might frighten some, might bore others...

Anyway, the only time I recently remember hiding behind a pillow is when I watched the Original of "The Ring". That freak the living **** out of me so much that I really was afraid of the TV for a while. And even now, everytime the tv goes into static, I expect a well to appear and the freaky girl starting to walk out the TV. :shaking: Even the american version worked well, though it was drastically different in story. But still worked.

This doesen't mean I don't like Teeny slashers or Gore movies or shock movies. I love them too, cause they still make you scared. And to me that like horror movies being interactive. You become part of the action, instead of just viewing it and yawning. And this is probably partly why I get so into movies. Cause it makes me feel part of it...

Yeah, I know. I'm weird. But its nowadays part of my job. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 04, 2003, 03:20:30 pm

I wonder if anyone else caught this...I nearly laughed out loud :)

Quote

Originally posted by nuclear1
The first one scared the absolute living hell out of me (I actually soiled myself :o )

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
depends.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Kamikaze on January 04, 2003, 03:52:23 pm

I so far haven't seen any viable point in scary movies other than to make all of us paranoid war machines (?) so I go for the pillow...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Knight Templar on January 04, 2003, 04:29:07 pm

scary movies are ok.. I'm kinda more at the suspense/meaningful end.

Signs comes to mind although It wasn't really a horro movie, it had the feel kind of.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 04, 2003, 04:30:45 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Signs comes to mind although It wasn't really a horro movie, it had the feel kind of.

Oh, oh, oh, forgot that. One of the best horror movies I've seen. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Knight Templar on January 04, 2003, 04:34:39 pm

Yeah, kept me thinking for a long time. You couldn't really tell that the water had anything to do with anything until the end when the director/character mentioned the lake and going there.

Why Gibson's character felt the need to go into the house was beyond me.. and then he was talking to it like an idiot. :doubt:

Still was a good movie though. And the sounds effects were awesome with the high pitched alien background noise thing. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 04, 2003, 05:10:07 pm

I don't think I've ever seen a horror movie: there hasn't been a flick yet that is more disturbing than the things in my own head and/or the nightly news.

On the other hand, I do love movies that are scary and suspenseful and dark and moody. I thought that "The Others" was a brilliant film, for example, and it scared the unholy hell out of me at once point.

I also like films that suck me in and make me forget the real world. To date, there's only been two of those (FotR and tTT, natch. :D)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: vyper on January 04, 2003, 07:00:28 pm

BOOO!
.
.
.
.
.
Did I scare anyone? :nervous:
I know a film has scared the Jeebus out of me when I lie in bed afterwards listening to every little creak and crack. The strangest effect was Resident Evil giving me a dream... :wtf:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Knight Templar on January 04, 2003, 07:11:26 pm

Was it of a naked girl?

Actually, res evil wasn't that scary.. more action and stupidity. not as much scary.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ace on January 04, 2003, 09:15:33 pm

For a thread about overall movie tastes, I'm seeing only horror films mentioned :p

Now two good black humor comedies are:
Dr. Strangelove- It has nukes, that strange Kubrick twist, and more subtle humor than you can shake a stick at.
1941- Airplanes, makes fun of the American mindset, and one unforgettable line: "HOLLYWOOD!" Also has Christopher Lee playing his exact same character in LoTR and StarWars :p
Hopscotch- You get to learn what FBI really stands for. ;)
The Producers- Mel Brooks, enough said.

Yes, both of these are completely "unamerican" movies, but they're entertaining! ;)

I also like it when a movie goes one direction and then logically flips onto it's side.

Minority Report is a good example of this, the first hour of the movie as far as I care could be burned, but then the last half hour the entire movie takes a sudden turn and is very entertaining. Sadly the rest of the movie is a slow and painful exposition leading to the plot twist and the real movie after it.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 04, 2003, 09:24:01 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Ace
For a thread about overall movie tastes, I'm seeing only horror films mentioned :p

This thread ISN'T about overall movie tastes. :rolleyes:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ace on January 04, 2003, 09:27:34 pm

Meh! Consider it derailment then :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 09:37:07 pm

Quote

Originally posted by mikhael
I don't think I've ever seen a horror movie: there hasn't been a flick yet that is more disturbing than the things in my own head and/or the nightly news.

I find that scaring, not 'scary' (if that kind of distinction can be made). On a bit of a tangent, though, I wonder if anyone could make a genuinely frightening FreeSpace campaign. I'm not sure it's possible...

PS. Good derailment, Ace :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 04, 2003, 09:48:45 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
On a bit of a tangent, though, I wonder if anyone could make a genuinely frightening FreeSpace campaign. I'm not sure it's possible...

Hmm... maybe if somebody remade the FS1 campaign, they could do it really scarily... that might be really cool. :)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 10:26:34 pm

I guess Playing Judas was the closest to 'scared' I've ever gotten while playing FS/ST/FS2. Into The Lions' Den... well, I didn't really have to change my shorts. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Vertigo1 on January 04, 2003, 10:37:50 pm

Man, you guys are a bunch of wusses. :p  I first saw Predator when I was 8 and it didn't even phase me in the least. (I saw the uncensored version, with Carl Weather's arm getting blown off in great bloody detail and everything. :D)

Then again, Britney Spears is one scarey b***h. :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 04, 2003, 10:54:00 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
I guess Playing Judas was the closest to 'scared' I've ever gotten while playing FS/ST/FS2. Into The Lions' Den... well, I didn't really have to change my shorts. ;)

Agreed, I think.  On both counts.  :)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 04, 2003, 11:26:10 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh


I find that scaring, not 'scary' (if that kind of distinction can be made). On a bit of a tangent, though, I wonder if anyone could make a genuinely frightening FreeSpace campaign. I'm not sure it's possible...
 

Sorry, Steak. I have a pretty messed up head.

Now you want to talk about scary in GAMES, well, hands down: System Shock 2. Man. That game scared the hell out of me.

If they had been able to take the deeply disturbed fear that permeated the FS1 intro and injected it into the actual campaign, that would have made for the best space-combat game experience ever. Sadly, the lack of personal involvement prevented any type of real, genuine emotional response.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Anaz on January 04, 2003, 11:30:39 pm

if only :V: had used #Alpha1 as a message source more...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 11:39:44 pm

Quote

Originally posted by mikhael
Sorry, Steak. I have a pretty messed up head.

Now you want to talk about scary in GAMES, well, hands down: System Shock 2. Man. That game scared the hell out of me.

If they had been able to take the deeply disturbed fear that permeated the FS1 intro and injected it into the actual campaign, that would have made for the best space-combat game experience ever. Sadly, the lack of personal involvement prevented any type of real, genuine emotional response.

Oh, no, not at all dude... I think the news is genuinely frightening when you consider it for a while. When my Dad turns on the TV to catch a news report, he says, "Well, let's see what today's bad news is!".

Ah yes, SS2. I've heard a lot about that over the years from Styxx. ;) Oh, and a couple of sound snippets hear and there... in a way, I'm glad I've never experienced that game.

And yes, yes, I'd completely forgotten about the FS1 intro, but I agree entirely. Damn... well, it's something to remember for future campaigns, I guess.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 04, 2003, 11:52:35 pm

I think SS2 would probably be scarier for me if the textures didn't invert, giving me this low-res, psychedelic-looking everything. That kinda sucked.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 11:57:22 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
I think SS2 would probably be scarier for me if the textures didn't invert, giving me this low-res, psychedelic-looking everything. That kinda sucked.

:wtf:

Should I ask?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 05, 2003, 12:37:22 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
in a way, I'm glad I've never experienced that game.

Wha-wha-whaat??? :eek:

You've never played System Shock 2? Sweet fancy Moses man, snag a copy ASAP!

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 12:42:43 am

It's on HOTU for free. Again. Cutscenes are coming shortly, and if ya want them, I can pass them on when I get them.

Be sure you have all the right graphics cards and ****. I think that's what screwed up mine.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Borealis on January 05, 2003, 01:43:48 am

Quote

Originally posted by LtNarol
Damn! Never thought I'd say it but for once I concur. :lol:

Option 2 naturally

Quote

Originally posted by Stunaep

Quiet, you! :D

:p @ both of you...gah we always know when y'all are pretending :D


we just play along and pretend we don't ;7

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 05, 2003, 01:46:38 am

Hmm. Probably won't be on HOTU for long... I'm pretty sure you can still find SS2 in stores as part of the EA Classics line.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: lobsterclaw on January 05, 2003, 02:00:06 am

For me, The Ring is the only movie that actually freaked me out.  Even though the plot was kinda dumb, static on the TV still freaks me out.

Now Resident Evil  wasnt scary, kinda made me laugh.  It scared my dad though :wtf:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 05, 2003, 02:09:35 am

meh...movies have never really scared me...I have yet to watch one that genuinely freaks me out...I have an annoying habit of being unable to forget that what I'm watching isn't real. I can't get into the movie.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 05, 2003, 04:18:43 am

Quote

Originally posted by lobsterclaw
For me, The Ring is the only movie that actually freaked me out.  Even though the plot was kinda dumb, static on the TV still freaks me out.

That's it!

*Opens Kazaa*

If some of you say The Ring is that scary, I gotta see it. What's the story BTW?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: lobsterclaw on January 05, 2003, 04:24:58 am

Spoiler:

I forget a lot of it, but basically this dead girl is mad and makes all this bad stuff happen.  A big part of it is about this tape that has her on it.  If you have seen the adds its the part where the little girl comes out of the well.  Anyway, 7 days after watching the movie, your TV turns on and she comes out of the well and out of the TV screen and kills you.  Like i said, kinda a weird plot, but it spooked me pretty good.  I'm getting paranoid just talkin about it:nervous: ......

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 05, 2003, 04:28:33 am

Sweet! :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 05:47:44 am

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Wha-wha-whaat??? :eek:

You've never played System Shock 2? Sweet fancy Moses man, snag a copy ASAP!

Yeah, sorry. I was going to pick it up, but before I bought it, I had the pleasure of discussing it with Styxx... after which I thought I'd better stay away from it till I had some time to play games in daylight, when I was safe from being completely freaked out by SHODAN. That time... well, it stretched out a little... :o

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stunaep on January 05, 2003, 05:54:00 am

Quote

Originally posted by mikhael

On the other hand, I do love movies that are scary and suspenseful and dark and moody. I thought that "The Others" was a brilliant film, for example, and it scared the unholy hell out of me at once point.
 

YES!! The Others is a very excellent film.

At this point I will have to mention "The Silence of the Lambs" again.

"The Silence of the Lambs"

as far as games go, I've not played SS2 (yeah I know, but nowhere is that in sale, guess it's time to look for unorthodox sources), AvP was really, REALLY, scary, and Undying was good too (and long, yes)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 05, 2003, 06:00:42 am

On a related note, everyone remember that big green dude from Resident Evil 2? The massive great geezer they drop throught the ceiling? I've had nightmares about him, actual nightmares, where he's chasing me and no matter how fast I run or how much I shoot him he's still comming - slow, but he doesn't stop. *shudder*

Turok 2 scared me silly as well, especially creeping around the Primagen's Lightship with precisely three bullets and a knife between me and an army of techno-organic nasties...

Others --> Fairly clever and pretty scary the first time, but once you know the plot it loses all the appeal...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 06:01:09 am

Quote

Originally posted by Stunaep
At this point I will have to mention "The Silence of the Lambs" again.

"The Silence of the Lambs"

:lol:

I don't think I've played any really frightening games. Ooh, wait... Myst scared me a little, because I was so absorbed into the game... yeah, it was very deep. :nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 10:36:36 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
after which I thought I'd better stay away from it till I had some time to play games in daylight, when I was safe from being completely freaked out by SHODAN.

You can't play it in daylight. You have to play it when it's very dark and there's no one around. Turn your sound up first.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: CP5670 on January 05, 2003, 10:43:12 am

I need to get that one sometime as well. It sounds interesting, but scary? a game? :wtf: And I play everything in pitch dark with headphones, too...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 10:46:11 am

Download the demo and you'll see. And believe you me, the demo is worth it.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: CP5670 on January 05, 2003, 10:46:37 am

Where is it available?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 10:52:45 am

I tried a very quick search and couldn't find any working servers. Oh well, I'll keep trying.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 10:57:20 am

*smashes head against wall*
This one should work:
http://download.com.com/3000-2097-913338.html?legacy=cnet

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 10:57:40 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh


:lol:

I don't think I've played any really frightening games. Ooh, wait... Myst scared me a little, because I was so absorbed into the game... yeah, it was very deep. :nervous:

Thief is hella scary, the catacombs... hehehe... return to wolfenstein castle's catacombs, next to it, it's the muppets :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: CP5670 on January 05, 2003, 11:04:17 am

Quote

*smashes head against wall*
This one should work:
http://download.com.com/3000-2097-913338.html?legacy=cnet

Thanks, I will try it tonight.

Quote

Thief is hella scary, the catacombs... hehehe... return to wolfenstein castle's catacombs, next to it, it's the muppets

Thief and RTCW scary? :wtf:

Then again, maybe it's just me; I remember everyone saying how "scary" Doom was back in 1995 and my finding it simply hilarious... :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Ulundel on January 05, 2003, 11:26:59 am

I don't know why but Resident Evil 3 was kinda creepy... :nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 11:43:41 am

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670
Thief and RTCW scary? :wtf:
 

nah, thief was, rtcw was not. but then again the only thing that might frighten you is a cute girl sitting on your math book.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: CP5670 on January 05, 2003, 12:47:22 pm

yeah, I've played thief and thief 2 but didn't find them scary at all. (sort of funny, if anything, with all those conversations between the other people unaware of your presence)

If anyone sits on any of my math books, i'm gonna to tear them apart; they really asked for it... :mad: :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Snakeseyes on January 05, 2003, 12:47:27 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Midnight Mercenary
meh...movies have never really scared me...I have yet to watch one that genuinely freaks me out...I have an annoying habit of being unable to forget that what I'm watching isn't real. I can't get into the movie.

Have you seen John Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness"?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 01:08:03 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes


Have you seen John Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness"?

yeah. it's disturbing, but not scary. good movie tho ( and my favourite actor in it, cool :) )

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 05, 2003, 02:41:09 pm

I'm more into some good suspense than terror movies. Dunno.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Midnight Mercenary on January 05, 2003, 03:20:50 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes


Have you seen John Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness"?

can't say I have...

Title: About scary movies.
Post by: SKYNET-011 on January 05, 2003, 03:26:01 pm

I voted option 2.

Believe me, I know people who were scared watching Scary Movie! :lol:

Title: Re: About scary movies.
Post by: Ulundel on January 05, 2003, 04:06:43 pm

Quote

Originally posted by SKYNET-011
Believe me, I know people who were scared watching Scary Movie! :lol:

Hooookay :lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Knight Templar on January 05, 2003, 04:08:34 pm

I thought 2 was supposed to be the scarier one...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 04:34:15 pm

I dunno. I like scary movies, but they don't generally scare me. After that time period when the most traumatizingly terrifying thing to me was the monsters from Gremlins (about age 8-12), damn few things could manage to be scarier than myself with the chainsaw.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 04:47:54 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
Thief is hella scary, the catacombs... hehehe... return to wolfenstein castle's catacombs, next to it, it's the muppets :p

The way you guys descibe things is hilarious, I'm reading through what's meant to be a scary topic and I start laughing half-way through. :p

Alright, I'll do it... I'll get SS2. Wait - should I get SS1 first?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 04:53:23 pm

No. First Shock 2, then Shock 1.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sesquipedalian on January 05, 2003, 04:58:22 pm

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670

If anyone sits on any of my math books, i'm gonna to tear them apart; they really asked for it... :mad: :D

*Remembers picture that CP put up in the "Post Your Ugly Mug" thread*

:lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 05, 2003, 05:05:21 pm

Meh - I'm a wuss; Option 1. I just don't get any real enjoyment out of jumping in my chair, or lying in bad after a movie with scenes going through my mind, unable to get to sleep... :nervous:

On the other hand,  commanding an APC through the streets of Jenin, with grenades and makeshift explosives going off on top and all around the vehicle, bullets pinging off the sides, etc etc... wasn't all that scary. Neither was disarming live mines in a hornet-ridden minefield, come to think of it.

*thinks back*

Scariest movies I've seen (to clarify, I haven;'t seen any of the Alien series, any Texas Chainsaw Massacre, nor  The Ring, Others, or even Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal. I know - poor, deprived me. Bah.) was when I watched Event Horizon and Sphere back-to-back one boring saturday on base. :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 05:08:44 pm

See Alien. Giger is a god among really, really creepy men. He's the one guy who's ever made an anthropomorphic alien work, I think.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 05:10:57 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan
No. First Shock 2, then Shock 1.

Logic would say the other way around. Logic is a pretty girl, she smells good as well. I love her, she knows all my weak points ( oh yeah, right under the shoulder, yes, YES! )
I'd say get Thief first, anyway.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 05:22:29 pm

Logic would be wrong. There are some games, like the Fallout series, where getting the first helps figure out what's going on. There are some, like Syndicate, where the first is downright better. And then there are games where the second is just the first, vastly improved. FPSes generally fall under category 3.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 05:37:17 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
Logic would say the other way around.

Have you played both of them? I have, and there are reasons why I suggest going for the second one first.

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
I'd say get Thief first, anyway.

Thief's nice, but it's not at the same level as System Shock. It kind of gets boring after the first couple of missions, to tell you the truth - not to mention the undead missions. Those are simple and pure pain. Someday I might give it another shot.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: 01010 on January 05, 2003, 05:38:20 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
*Remembers picture that CP put up in the "Post Your Ugly Mug" thread*

:lol:

I though I was the only one that noticed that :)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 05:47:08 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan

Have you played both of them? I have, and there are reasons why I suggest going for the second one first.

guess what? I've played only the first one, and I stopped after about 10 minutes. there's some games, you just can't pay them nowadays

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan

Thief's nice, but it's not at the same level as System Shock. It kind of gets boring after the first couple of missions, to tell you the truth - not to mention the undead missions.

"slaps levy-etc with a trout" there's things you can say, and others you can't. you can't say this one.

Thief's great, it's my favourite FPS ( if it can be called a fpS :doubt:  ), and maybe my favourite game ever, nothing can compare to it.
"can't wait for thief3"
"remembers he still has not been able to get his hand on thief2"
"goes in a dark corner, crying quietly"
"france sucks and doesn't deserve a "F" "
"stops spamming"

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 06:47:20 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
guess what? I've played only the first one, and I stopped after about 10 minutes. there's some games, you just can't pay them nowadays

See? You didn't even have to ask for one of those reasons - you discovered it by your own. It seems your logic betrayed you.

And I see you consider graphics an important factor in games. That's sad at least, really.

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
"slaps levy-etc with a trout" there's things you can say, and others you can't. you can't say this one.

This is getting pretty lame. If you can't spell my name you shouldn't even be allowed to talk in the first place.

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
Thief's great, it's my favourite FPS ( if it can be called a fpS :doubt:  ), and maybe my favourite game ever, nothing can compare to it.

It's your right to have that opinion. It's my right not to agree with it. If you can't understand that, you should move to a cave and block the entrance.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 05, 2003, 06:48:25 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
I haven't seen any of the Alien series...

:eek: :eek:

Ok, you can tell us you were joking now...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 05, 2003, 06:57:29 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
I haven;'t seen any of the Alien series

:eek:

You..... die..... now

:D

Seriously, rent Alien.... then Aliens. Do not rent Alien3 or Resurrection. Though it has Bill Paxton, Aliens is really really good.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 07:13:55 pm

Ah. I'll nominate Alien as one of the scariest movies ever. I mean, it didn't QUITE make me **** myself like Gremlins did, but that alien was damn cool. I mean, LOOK AT IT.

(http://www.chickenfrier.com/stuff/pintofkitten.jpg)

Creepy, eh?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Knight Templar on January 05, 2003, 07:15:33 pm

hey! that's carl's little bother!

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 05, 2003, 07:24:32 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Alright, I'll do it... I'll get SS2. Wait - should I get SS1 first?

You should, but you might not like SS1. It's definitely not for everyone. Aside from the dated graphics (which some superficial graphics-whore types can't get past), it's a pre-mouselook game with lots of keys and no remapping. But if you can handle all that, it has fantastic level design, plotting, and voice acting. Also, playing through SS1 makes a certain level in SS2 *much* more significant and enjoyable.

PS-- Thief and System Shock are completely different types of games. They're both excellent.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 07:33:59 pm

If he plays System Shock 2 first he'll have a higher chance of enjoying Shock 1 - although that last part of the first paragraph is indeed true.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Anaz on January 05, 2003, 07:44:24 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Ah. I'll nominate Alien as one of the scariest movies ever. I mean, it didn't QUITE make me **** myself like Gremlins did, but that alien was damn cool. I mean, LOOK AT IT.

(http://www.chickenfrier.com/stuff/pintofkitten.jpg)

Creepy, eh?

iiinteresting...that is someone's avatar at another site I visit...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 05, 2003, 07:49:24 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan
If he plays System Shock 2 first he'll have a higher chance of enjoying Shock 1

Explain.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 08:22:43 pm

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Explain.

A) Shock 2 is much more player-friendly.
Shock 2 has mouse look, a more practical interface (this is arguable, many people like Shock 1's interface better - generally people who played Shock 1 when it first came out) and more important, it gives you the option of customizing the controls. Those features help the player get into the Shock universe, and once he is in there, he won't want to leave.

B) Storytelling
System Shock 2, as a sequel, didn't have an option but to mention Shock 1's events - obviously. The beauty lies on the way the designers managed to do it. They revealed the core of the plot (SHODAN and all that) but left many unanswered questions. Upon finishing the game, the player feels like finding out exactly what happened on Citadel Station. When he starts playing Shock 1, things that would normally represent a barrier to enjoyment won't keep him from continuing the game and living the story.

Of course, not all people are the same - I just think that's the case for most gamers.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 05, 2003, 09:35:20 pm

Seems like reasons A & B boil down to the same reason-- playing SS2 first will sufficiently interest players in SS1 to overlook its shortcomings.

What if the player is *already* sufficiently interested in SS1? Do you still think it would be better to start with SS2?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 09:43:06 pm

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Seems like reasons A & B boil down to the same reason-- playing SS2 first will sufficiently interest players in SS1 to overlook its shortcomings.

:D

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
What if the player is *already* sufficiently interested in SS1? Do you still think it would be better to start with SS2?

Depends on how interested he is. If he's interested enough, then he should go ahead and play Shock 1 first. The thing is, how interested is sufficiently interested? I don't think Setekh is interested enough, therefore I think he should play Shock 2 first.

Also, as venom2506 showed us, a failed attempt at playing Shock 1 first might ruin all of your interest.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:32:05 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Logic would be wrong. There are some games, like the Fallout series, where getting the first helps figure out what's going on. There are some, like Syndicate, where the first is downright better. And then there are games where the second is just the first, vastly improved. FPSes generally fall under category 3.

Hahah, I hear you. :nod: Funnily enough, Fallout and Syndicate are among my favourite games of all time. :yes:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:33:59 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan
:D

Depends on how interested he is. If he's interested enough, then he should go ahead and play Shock 1 first. The thing is, how interested is sufficiently interested? I don't think Setekh is interested enough, therefore I think he should play Shock 2 first.

Also, as venom2506 showed us, a failed attempt at playing Shock 1 first might ruin all of your interest.

I think I'll play Shock 1. I'd rather go from difficult-gaming-experience to less-difficult-gaming-experience, and I've heard enough about the games to be at least a little interested by now. :)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 05, 2003, 11:35:03 pm

FO2 was still a bit more fun though. More stuff to do- Fallout, you just head down, head back up, try to kill the evil Overseer- a bit more linear.

And yes, I mean the Overseer. Guy was a total bastard.:D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:37:11 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Meh - I'm a wuss; Option 1. I just don't get any real enjoyment out of jumping in my chair, or lying in bad after a movie with scenes going through my mind, unable to get to sleep... :nervous:

On the other hand,  commanding an APC through the streets of Jenin, with grenades and makeshift explosives going off on top and all around the vehicle, bullets pinging off the sides, etc etc... wasn't all that scary. Neither was disarming live mines in a hornet-ridden minefield, come to think of it.

*thinks back*

Scariest movies I've seen (to clarify, I haven;'t seen any of the Alien series, any Texas Chainsaw Massacre, nor  The Ring, Others, or even Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal. I know - poor, deprived me. Bah.) was when I watched Event Horizon and Sphere back-to-back one boring saturday on base. :p

W00t! A kindred soul. ;) All I know about the Aliens series is that there's some lady called Ripley and the same Aliens are in AvP2 (of which I've played the demo). So sue me. Actually, please don't... :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:39:06 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
FO2 was still a bit more fun though. More stuff to do- Fallout, you just head down, head back up, try to kill the evil Overseer- a bit more linear.

And yes, I mean the Overseer. Guy was a total bastard.:D

Actually, I meant FO2. I haven't played number 1... couldn't find it anywhere in the shops. :(

As for FO2, I really like the guy with the bone through his nose. He made me laugh. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 05, 2003, 11:51:05 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
I think I'll play Shock 1. I'd rather go from difficult-gaming-experience to less-difficult-gaming-experience, and I've heard enough about the games to be at least a little interested by now. :)

Then go for it! :nod::yes:
If you don't own a copy already and are unable to find one for sale, download it from The Underdogs. It's almost like the CD enhanced version, except that there's no German and French (I guess those are the languages, can't remember exactly) text. Not that it would make much of a difference for you.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:55:10 pm

I might have to do that, in fact... I couldn't find the game a year ago in stores... I can't find FS2 either anymore! (That's actually quite bad, because my FS CD2 is really badly scratched... like, unreadable.)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 06, 2003, 12:00:19 am

You'll be lucky to find a copy of Shock 2 nowadays... At least around here they've completely disappeared.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 06, 2003, 12:10:07 am

Of course, if you look reeeeally carefully, you'll find that SS2 is ALSO on HOTU.:p

Steak: Actually, I just lost my copy of 1 recently. but they sell the dual jewel most places now.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 01:34:38 am

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Steak: Actually, I just lost my copy of 1 recently. but they sell the dual jewel most places now.

I'll keep an eye out for that. Hmmm, does anyone sell the SSOTY Edition of FS2 online?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Tiara on January 06, 2003, 01:45:25 am

Candyman, Candyman, Candyman....

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 06, 2003, 02:45:14 am

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan

See? You didn't even have to ask for one of those reasons - you discovered it by your own. It seems your logic betrayed you.

And I see you consider graphics an important factor in games. That's sad at least, really.

This is getting pretty lame. If you can't spell my name you shouldn't even be allowed to talk in the first place.

It's your right to have that opinion. It's my right not to agree with it. If you can't understand that, you should move to a cave and block the entrance.

:rolleyes:
"waits for a day for the kid to cool down"
oh, hey, man, don't take everything so seriously :doubt:

1) As I said, logic is a girl, of course she's often wr- Ouch! Stop that Tiara!

2) I do indeed consider graphics an important factor, whats wrong with that? Try playing a VGA game on a 21" and come back to me ( very funny, I can actually draw the outlines of the pixels on the screen :doubt: ). Only thing is:
THAT IS HELLA NOT THE RESON WHY I DIDN'T LIKE IT ( I've noticed when people say something they think might be important, they often put it with caps. It seems offending to me, but heh, let's troll togetha!!! ). Nah. The plain simple reason is that I got it from a CD cover ( so I should still have it somewhere ) and I couldn't figure the UI out, and alt-tabbing the game every ten seconds just to check in a txt how to swing a stupid metal bar, well, no thanks.

3) :ick ( I like this smiley, don't you? :D )

4) Do you bite? Nah, I knew you'd reply that, honestly, I don't know why I wrote that in the first place. Oh, yeah: I guess reading that Thief got boring after two missions didn't please me? It's your right to prefer SS2, sure ( after all, thief is kindda strange ) but the way you put things, you used that argument to prove that SS2 is better than thief so someone get it rather than Thief. I have no interest in having thief sold more than SS2, mind you, but I love this game and I think that this was just unfair as it wasn't true. Sue me :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 03:48:41 am

Okay everyone, let's go and relax for a while. Frag some Shivans or something ;)

Oh, and, my question still stands... :)

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Hmmm, does anyone sell the SSOTY Edition of FS2 online?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 06, 2003, 04:51:36 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Oh, and, my question still stands... :)

I'm pretty sure someone does... Don't ask me who, though.

:p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 06, 2003, 09:40:33 am

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
2) I do indeed consider graphics an important factor, whats wrong with that? Try playing a VGA game on a 21" and come back to me

Irrelevent to System Shock. The CD-enhanced version supports SVGA rez (640x480), although it does default to 320x240.

Quote

The plain simple reason is that ... I couldn't figure the UI out

Ha! The sad truth comes to light at last. Too bad the SS interface was over your head, since most fans of both games agree that the plot of the first one was actually better.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Zeronet on January 06, 2003, 09:48:36 am

I,ve got FO2 twice. I had to buy it again to get FO1.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 06, 2003, 10:23:34 am

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Irrelevent to System Shock. The CD-enhanced version supports SVGA rez (640x480), although it does default to 320x240.

Ha! The sad truth comes to light at last. Too bad the SS interface was over your head, since most fans of both games agree that the plot of the first one was actually better.

1) that's not the one I have, if you read what I'm saying.

2) yeah, the interface was over my head, as you say. and people always say the first one is better, so what you say comes as a real surprise :doubt:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 06, 2003, 01:14:36 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
2) I do indeed consider graphics an important factor, whats wrong with that? Try playing a VGA game on a 21" and come back to me ( very funny, I can actually draw the outlines of the pixels on the screen :doubt: ).

Very well then. How long it'll take you to consider FreeSpace 2 unplayable? Someday it'll be as old compared to that time's standards as Shock 1 is compared to today's standards.

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
The plain simple reason is that I got it from a CD cover ( so I should still have it somewhere ) and I couldn't figure the UI out, and alt-tabbing the game every ten seconds just to check in a txt how to swing a stupid metal bar, well, no thanks.

Well, some people do indeed consider pressing the mouse button a confusing control.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 06, 2003, 01:57:21 pm

if you want to play stupîd with me, don't expect me to reply.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 06, 2003, 03:13:01 pm

I like how people try to pass off as "shallow" the  preference for good graphics, particularly since computer gaming is 90% shallow. It's like watching a Sylvester Stallone movie, and saying "Yes, but the explosions shouldn't be the only criteria you go on! Personally, I prefer Rambo II for the engaging plot, and the others are merely in poor taste." Games, none of them are Shakespeare. They aren't even Steven King, with a few notable exceptions- none of which are shooters or space sims. If you're gonna be a culture snob, games are NOT the medium to do it in. Go learn about coffee tables or something.

But anyway.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: 01010 on January 06, 2003, 03:22:02 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
I like how people try to pass off as "shallow" the  preference for good graphics, particularly since computer gaming is 90% shallow. It's like watching a Sylvester Stallone movie, and saying "Yes, but the explosions shouldn't be the only criteria you go on! Personally, I prefer Rambo II for the engaging plot, and the others are merely in poor taste." Games, none of them are Shakespeare. They aren't even Steven King, with a few notable exceptions- none of which are shooters or space sims. If you're gonna be a culture snob, games are NOT the medium to do it in. Go learn about coffee tables or something.

But anyway.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm something..... ::drools::

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: CP5670 on January 06, 2003, 04:03:24 pm

Quote

Try playing a VGA game on a 21" and come back to me

I just did that today, in fact. :D (been playing through Doom 2 again) I have always been a true old games fanatic and don't care one bit about pixellated graphics, sound driver quirks or weird interfaces, and I actually use keyboard-only in FPS games even today. :D

Anyway, I cannot get the first game to work correctly here due to EMS issues, so I am going to give the second one a shot. Didn't have any time last night (too busy with PI) but I might be able to try out that demo tonight instead.

BTW the HOTU servers are slow, despite the rest of the site being very good. I got a maximum of around 11k/sec... :doubt: (as opposed to 160 average from other sites)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 06, 2003, 04:21:39 pm

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670
I have always been a true old games fanatic and don't care about pixellated graphics, sound driver quirks or weird interfaces one bit

Me too.  Yay for old games!  Sierra EGA adventure games, very fun. :yes: :cool:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 06, 2003, 04:26:48 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
I like how people try to pass off as "shallow" the  preference for good graphics, particularly since computer gaming is 90% shallow. [...] If you're gonna be a culture snob, games are NOT the medium to do it in.

It's not about being a culture snob. It's not about good graphics being bad. It's simply about not judging a book by its cover. I'd take System Shock over Unreal Tournament 2003 any day.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 06, 2003, 05:05:14 pm

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670
Anyway, I cannot get the first game to work correctly here due to EMS issues, so I am going to give the second one a shot.  

meh, EMS :shaking:
"has horrible memories of tweakings to make XWing work"

And Levyathan, I did gave the game its chance, the pb is I couldn't get the desire to play it. But if that can please you, I love a game that hardly anybody knows, it's called Shadow of the Horned Rat ( no, it's not a joke, shut up :p ), a RTS ( first 3D RTS as far as I know, btw ) based on the Wrahammer Universe. It's ugly as hell, the UI is the crappiest one could have ever thought of, but for some reason I love that game, I still play it occasionaly, and the damn thing even managed to make me try the real tabletop game ( and now I've spent fortunes for stupid metal and plastic figurines, and paint pots ).
If you read me again, all the things I said about SS1 started with "I". that means those opinions engaged only one person: myself. But you don't take opinions against the game you like better than I do for Thief, and as I'm a bit stuborn, I call this a day, coz I don't like arguments ( I have way enough arguments with Mikhael and Killmenow :lol: )

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 06, 2003, 05:13:56 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
I like how people try to pass off as "shallow" the  preference for good graphics, particularly since computer gaming is 90% shallow. It's like watching a Sylvester Stallone movie, and saying "Yes, but the explosions shouldn't be the only criteria you go on! Personally, I prefer Rambo II for the engaging plot, and the others are merely in poor taste." Games, none of them are Shakespeare. They aren't even Steven King, with a few notable exceptions- none of which are shooters or space sims. If you're gonna be a culture snob, games are NOT the medium to do it in. Go learn about coffee tables or something.

But anyway.

You sir, are my damn hero.  HERO, I say. :D

Quote

From Venom:

...coz I don't like arguments ( I have way enough arguments with Mikhael and Killmenow)

You know you love every moment of it. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 06, 2003, 06:29:55 pm

Quote

Originally posted by StrykeIX
I like how people try to pass off as "shallow" the  preference for good graphics, particularly since computer gaming is 90% shallow. It's like watching a Sylvester Stallone movie, and saying "Yes, but the explosions shouldn't be the only criteria you go on!

Let's all give Stryke a big hand for demonstrating the classic debate fallacy known as the "straw man". In other words, intentionally taking your opponent's argument, twisting it into an obviously flawed state, then knocking it down.

To reuse the cinematic analogy, it's like refusing to watch Citizen Kane (or Psycho, Casablanca, et al) because it's in black and white. Graphics are only the medium... the gameplay is the message.


Regarding getting SS1 to run under modern OS's--
The System Shock FAQ (http://homepages.compuserve.de/daxim5/shock/shockfaq.html) (SS1 & SS2 info)
Search the TTLG Forums (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/search.php?s=)

And for SS2... it's very important that you install the patch before playing.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 06, 2003, 07:33:10 pm

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 07:50:02 pm

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670
I just did that today, in fact. :D (been playing through Doom 2 again) I have always been a true old games fanatic and don't care one bit about pixellated graphics, sound driver quirks or weird interfaces, and I actually use keyboard-only in FPS games even today. :D

Anyway, I cannot get the first game to work correctly here due to EMS issues, so I am going to give the second one a shot. Didn't have any time last night (too busy with PI) but I might be able to try out that demo tonight instead.

BTW the HOTU servers are slow, despite the rest of the site being very good. I got a maximum of around 11k/sec... :doubt: (as opposed to 160 average from other sites)

Heheheh, EMS. How much fun I've had tinkering with that. :lol: As for only 11k/sec... well, that'll be no problem for my little dialup modem. ;)

I'm familiar with that, Zeronet... but worse. I had MDK1, then bought MDK2... but then I lost MDK1. So I got a dual-pack with MDK1 & 2 in it... after which I found MDK1 again. :rolleyes: (I later gave the dual-pack to a friend for his birthday.)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Snakeseyes on January 06, 2003, 08:36:39 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506


I love a game that hardly anybody knows, it's called Shadow of the Horned Rat ( no, it's not a joke, shut up :p )

I know that, but I only played the demo.

I agree with ZB, the gameplay is what matters in a game, though I wouldn't object to good graphics.

Also, some of us started playing computer games 2 decades ago and we have some good memories from old games, that relied on their gameplay, memories that sometimes can cloud our judgement.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Zeronet on January 07, 2003, 08:29:09 am

Quote

Originally posted by CP5670

and I actually use keyboard-only in FPS games even today. :D

Hehe (http://www.warbucket.com/comic.php?id=56)

;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 07, 2003, 10:26:02 am

Quote

Originally posted by Zeronet


Hehe (http://www.warbucket.com/comic.php?id=56)

;)

:lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 07, 2003, 02:35:17 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Zeronet


Hehe (http://www.warbucket.com/comic.php?id=56)

;)

:lol::lol::lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 07, 2003, 07:26:30 pm

:lol:

Actually, I should probably be insulted by that, since I use the keyboard whenever I can avoid the mouse. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 09, 2003, 07:29:05 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Hmmm, does anyone sell the SSOTY Edition of FS2 online?

Dude, have someone burn and ship you a copy. Perfecty legal, even if you didn't previously own the game.


...And you of all people should be quite aware that We Know Where You Live! :D

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes
Also, some of us started playing computer games 2 decades ago and we have some good memories from old games, that relied on their gameplay, memories that sometimes can cloud our judgement.

*looks at Snakeseyes' location*

And some of us can't legally buy computer games anymore, so we have to rely on the old games in the cupboard. ;) :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 09, 2003, 09:55:18 am

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich


Dude, have someone burn and ship you a copy. Perfecty legal, even if you didn't previously own the game.

no it's not. source code doesn't mean the game is free now :p there' still copyrighted art, etc, in  it.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 11:12:10 am

The original FS2 license agreement says that you can make copies to give to your friends and acquaintances. :nod:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 09, 2003, 04:54:05 pm

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506


no it's not. source code doesn't mean the game is free now :p there' still copyrighted art, etc, in  it.

What Goober said. I can't believe you missed that whole thread, Venom. You disappoint... :doubt:

:p

Seriously, there's a clause in the Liscence Agreement when you install FS2 (it's not in the readme though) that you can freely distribute copies to friends and aquaintances on a non-profit, noncommercial basis.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 09, 2003, 05:26:03 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich


What Goober said. I can't believe you missed that whole thread, Venom. You disappoint... :doubt:

:p

Seriously, there's a clause in the Liscence Agreement when you install FS2 (it's not in the readme though) that you can freely distribute copies to friends and aquaintances on a non-profit, noncommercial basis.

my bad :p
here's your proof noone is perfect, not even me. No, there's no need to suicide yourself, believe me, you'll get used to that pain :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Anaz on January 09, 2003, 05:34:07 pm

erm...venom...suicide isn't a verb...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 05:40:01 pm

:lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Zeronet on January 09, 2003, 06:04:49 pm

English aint his first language, i cant speak french, i just draw during that lesson :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 06:16:50 pm

(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/wakka.gif)

Suicide is Latin... :lol:

sui = oneself, cide = kill --> the act of killing oneself :nod:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Anaz on January 09, 2003, 07:06:01 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Goober5000
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/wakka.gif)

Suicide is Latin... :lol:

sui = oneself, cide = kill --> the act of killing oneself :nod:

yes, but in the english I learned, you commit suicide, you don't suicide.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 07:07:15 pm

Right.  You commit the act of killing yourself.  You commit suicide (not you, personally ;)).

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 09, 2003, 08:10:08 pm

In Portuguese it's both a noun and a verb. Depends on how you use it.

Not that it matters, just felt like sharing it.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 09, 2003, 08:26:55 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan
In Portuguese it's both a noun and a verb. Depends on how you use it.

Not that it matters, just felt like sharing it.

Same in Hebrew, as well. I think it's just us messed-up English speakers who have it as a noun only. :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 08:44:04 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Same in Hebrew, as well. I think it's just us messed-up English speakers who have it as a noun only. :p

Come to think of it, you're probably right.  Cide is already conjugated in Latin, after all.  Il suicide - he kills himself.  Hmm...

But being half English, I'm proud of my crazy language and all its idiosyncrasies.  After all, when was the last time a barbaric language became the de facto world standard? :p :lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 09, 2003, 08:52:13 pm

I don't think the reason for that is the language, though.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 08:59:47 pm

I know - that's what's ironic about it.  The language is probably one of the most complicated in the world to learn, so strictly on an ease-of-use/ease-of-learning ranking, it would be near the bottom for non-native English speakers.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 09, 2003, 09:04:51 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Goober5000
I know - that's what's ironic about it.  The language is probably one of the most complicated in the world to learn, so strictly on an ease-of-use/ease-of-learning ranking, it would be near the bottom for non-native English speakers.

No "probably" about it - it is the hardest to learn. But that's what gives it its versatility and immense capabilites, allowing one utter freedom in self-expression and verbalization. :p

:nervous:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 09, 2003, 09:08:51 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
No "probably" about it - it is the hardest to learn. But that's what gives it its versatility and immense capabilites, allowing one utter freedom in self-expression and verbalization. :p

:nervous:

Yay!  A rich and storied language have we before us. :nod:

Now all we need is Sesq to wax poetic about the nuances of ye olde Anglishe. :)


(but aren't Chinese and some Eastern languages harder than English?)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 09, 2003, 09:42:35 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
No "probably" about it - it is the hardest to learn.

I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that at all.

Look at this simple example of verb conjugation. I'll take the verb to talk as a model.

English:
I talk
You talk
He/she/it talks
We talk
You talk
They talk

Portuguese:
Eu falo
Tu falas
Ele/Ela fala
Nós falamos
Vós falais
Eles falam

Not to mention all the past and future forms. While in English you just add ed to most verbs when it's past and will before it when it's future (with some variations), in Portuguese it goes like this (I won't put all past and future forms, there are many of them):

A past form -
Eu falei
Tu falastes
Ele/Ela falou
Nós falamos
Vós falastes
Eles falaram

A future form -
Eu falarei
Tu falarás
Ele/Ela falará
Nós falaremos
Vós falarais
Eles falarão

Another past form -
Eu falaria
Tu falarias
Ele/Ela falaria
Nós falaríamos
Vós falaríeis
Eles falariam

If I find a grammar book around I'll torment you to the rest of eternity with Portuguese verb conjugations - I don't feel like typing any more right now. Also, I'm not too sure about the vós (which is the plural of you) conjugations. When Styxx reads this he'll be able to correct me and add all the missing forms (I hope).

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 09, 2003, 09:45:21 pm

And on a side note, this has got to be the most derailed thread in history.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 10, 2003, 02:38:49 am

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Seriously, there's a clause in the Liscence Agreement when you install FS2 (it's not in the readme though) that you can freely distribute copies to friends and aquaintances on a non-profit, noncommercial basis.

No kidding? That's cool! :cool::yes:

Hey, Mike... how do I send you some money? :o

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2003, 05:58:48 am

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan
If I find a grammar book around I'll torment you to the rest of eternity with Portuguese verb conjugations - I don't feel like typing any more right now. Also, I'm not too sure about the vós (which is the plural of you) conjugations. When Styxx reads this he'll be able to correct me and add all the missing forms (I hope).

A future form -
Eu falarei
Tu falarás
Ele/Ela falará
Nós falaremos
Vós falarais
Eles falarão

Ok, on the examples you posted the only error is the one in italics - the right form is "Vós Falareis".

:D

Oh, and:

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~emilianp/conver/conver.cgi?falar

You'll notice that there are 12 different conjugation forms in portuguese.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2003, 07:17:39 am

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan

I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that at all.

Ok then, try reading the following by Mark Twain - English made logical:

Quote

A 20-year plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

And check out this (http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vangogh/555/Spell/Simpspel.html) page. Convinced?

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Hey, Mike... how do I send you some money? :o

"No cost basis", dude. :)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2003, 07:26:12 am

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok then, try reading the following by Mark Twain - English made logical:

Bah, old joke. :p :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Snakeseyes on January 10, 2003, 07:54:59 am

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich

*looks at Snakeseyes' location*

And some of us can't legally buy computer games anymore, so we have to rely on the old games in the cupboard. ;) :p

No, the problem is I can buy the game, but I can't install it.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2003, 08:16:24 am

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes


No, the problem is I can buy the game, but I can't install it.

Ahh. But tell me, is that really stopping anyone? :doubt:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Snakeseyes on January 10, 2003, 08:24:10 am

No, the law has been judged unconstitutional(sp?).

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2003, 09:07:08 am

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes
No, the law has been judged unconstitutional(sp?).

Ahh... :yes:

Quote

Originally posted by Snakeseyes
...unconstitutional(sp?).

:nod: :yes:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 10, 2003, 01:16:11 pm

one of my favourite films of all time has to be Event Horizon

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 10, 2003, 01:34:46 pm

Quote

Originally posted by wEvil
one of my favourite films of all time has to be Event Horizon

So, your top 5 must look something like this?
[list=1]

• Event Horizon
• Star Trek: Generations
• Battlefield Earth
• Planet of the Apes (remake)
• I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
[/list=1]

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 10, 2003, 02:14:11 pm

more like:
1. Event Horizon
2. LOTR (the old animated version)
3. TRON tied with Human Traffic
4. Moulin Rouge
5. The Time Machine (new version)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 10, 2003, 02:19:04 pm

Hey, how'd this get back on topic?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 10, 2003, 02:23:04 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Goober5000
Hey, how'd this get back on topic?

*smack*

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Levyathan on January 10, 2003, 02:34:29 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok then, try reading the following by Mark Twain - English made logical:

That's not even English!

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2003, 02:57:32 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Goober5000
Hey, how'd this get back on topic?

:lol:

Quote

Originally posted by Levyathan

That's not even English!

Oh, no? It's logical... I guess English is a far cry from being logical then. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Zeronet on January 10, 2003, 03:18:01 pm

Quote

Originally posted by wEvil
more like:
1. Event Horizon
2. LOTR (the old animated version)
3. TRON tied with Human Traffic
4. Moulin Rouge
5. The Time Machine (new version)

I like Event Horizon and The Time Machine(new one).

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 10, 2003, 03:34:08 pm

Event Horizon and the Time Machine remake are both crrrrrrrap.

But I guess I can see how people who don't know squat about science fiction (or science) could enjoy them. You know, the "Armageddon" demographic. :lol:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 10, 2003, 03:44:25 pm

*claps*

well done, you just demonstrated you know bugger all about how to make a good film.

have a gold star.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 10, 2003, 10:35:58 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
"No cost basis", dude. :)

"Brotherly donation"? :nod:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 11, 2003, 01:00:19 am

Quote

Originally posted by wEvil
well done, you just demonstrated you know bugger all about how to make a good film.

have a gold star.

Umm, we were talking about watching films, not making them. Do I need to use smaller words?

Regardless, any discussion of good films would only include Event Horizon (IMDB 5.5, Rotten Tomatoes 21% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/EventHorizon-1079092/)) and The Time Machine remake (IMDB 5.7, RT 25% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/TheTimeMachine-1112951/)) as negative examples.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 11, 2003, 01:08:13 am

Hey, watch it. I know several big lads who will happily come round your gaff and smack you till you sing EV's praises. It may well be a mish mash of horror genres, as you put it, but it's got cool models and Laurence Fishburne and whatshername in it, so I like it.

'Twas the first 18-cert film I rented, and I watched it alone and I thought it was pretty creepy. A million watches later and it still is.

And I thought the Time Machine was fairly entertaining for a Sunday night down the Cinema, but I haven't seen the other version nor have I read the book, so I'm in no real position to pass judgement.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 11, 2003, 06:56:25 am

Well, the thing about film critics is its only their opinion...i just thought i'd better tell you that, encase you didnt realise that...y'know....different people are allowed to enjoy different things...

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 11, 2003, 11:49:53 am

IMDB rankings are entirely user-based. And there's nothing wrong with enjoying bad movies. The problem is when people try to argue that a bad movie (http://www.genepool.addr.com/movie.html) is actually a good movie.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 11, 2003, 12:21:24 pm

but it is a good movie...I quite liked the storyline concepts and the general visual style was amazing.

Out of interest what did they give SW2:AotC?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 11, 2003, 02:34:33 pm

Sheesh, do I have to do everything (http://us.imdb.com/Ratings?0121765) for you?

The special effects were the only remarkable thing about Event Horizon. The plot was utterly unoriginal, consisting primarily of a mishmash of Hellraiser and The Shining, with bits of Dead Calm  and any random "trapped with a homicidal maniac" movie. Even the ship "Event Horizon" was unoriginal, being basically a goth version of the "Discovery" from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

On the plus side, it gave us a lot of funny reviews mostly dedicated to picking out all the flaws and implausibilities in the story.

Title: Heh, I almost forgot about this thread
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 12, 2003, 02:33:47 pm

Flaws and implausibilities? In a movie set in the orbit of Neptune, aboard a space ship that had returned from Hell with some sort of presence? Nah...

Unoriginal plot? Fair enough. But it does the job. Unoriginal ship design? Meh... it's still sexy. Aldo did an EV based model a while back... we didn't say it was unoriginal, we told him it looked cool because that was the most important thing about it :nod:

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 12, 2003, 03:10:42 pm

Good gods, I hate to agree with ZylonBane, but damn. You have to try hard to make a movie that sucked worse than Event Horizon. The special effects weren't even that good (what happened the CG->Film integration? I fell off the sofa laughing at how unrealistic it looked).

The highpoint of EH was the fact that it ended.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 12, 2003, 03:19:22 pm

well good for you - i fell of the chair laughing at SW:AotC and there were even quite a few horrible peices of CG in LOTR2.

unfortunately most of you seem to be so spoilt you can't actually appreciate the good aspects of most films - nor do many of you have a clue about how hard it is to actually make a good movie.

Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days - as evidenced by the mindnumbing amount of soap opera directed "entertainment" floating around the airwaves - and you just said yourself its a fusion of styles, and I think it does that very well.  You didnt like it, fair enough - but that doesnt automatically make it a terrible film.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 12, 2003, 03:37:19 pm

Quote

Originally posted by mikhael
You have to try hard to make a movie that sucked worse than Event Horizon.

I disagree - I don't think they tried very hard at all with Battlefield: Earth, and it is pretty much The Epitome of Suckiness. :ick

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 12, 2003, 03:46:12 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
I disagree - I don't think they tried very hard at all with Battlefield: Earth, and it is pretty much The Epitome of Suckiness. :ick

But... I loved Battlefield: Earth!!

Ok, that had to be said. By the way, I lied.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 12, 2003, 06:19:02 pm

Quote

Originally posted by wEvil
Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days [...] and I think it does that very well.

That's just it... it didn't do it well. The plot was an aimless mess. The characters behaved illogically and stupidly. ("Hey, I think I'll stick my hand in the hyperdrive!")

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: mikhael on January 12, 2003, 07:52:27 pm

Quote

Originally posted by wEvil
well good for you - i fell of the chair laughing at SW:AotC and there were even quite a few horrible peices of CG in LOTR2.

SW:AotC was worth laughing at indeed.  LotR had a couple of bad CGI->Film integrations, but lets face it: its a story flick, not a CG flick. The story carries the film, and the CG is mostly irrelevant.

Quote

unfortunately most of you seem to be so spoilt you can't actually appreciate the good aspects of most films - nor do many of you have a clue about how hard it is to actually make a good movie.

Its one thing to appreciate how hard it is to make a good movie, and quite another to look at garbage like Event Horizon and actually delude one's self that it is a good movie. I haven't the foggiest clue what exactly I'm supposed to be spoiled by, unless you're referring to the sudden proliferation of incredible "art" from Hollywood? Excuse me whilst I vomit.

Quote

Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days - as evidenced by the mindnumbing amount of soap opera directed "entertainment" floating around the airwaves - and you just said yourself its a fusion of styles, and I think it does that very well.  You didnt like it, fair enough - but that doesnt automatically make it a terrible film.

Event Horizon was a bad film on its own merits. The laundry list of incredibly bad decisions that led to this blasphemy being foisted on the viewing public is long, but the hilights are as follows:

Bad writing
Bad acting
Bad direction
Bad musical score
Bad effects integration
Bad pacing
Bad internal consistency
Bad idea

Please, defend something worthy of your effort.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: wEvil on January 12, 2003, 08:04:58 pm

Quote

Originally posted by mikhael

Bad writing
Bad acting
Bad direction
Bad musical score
Bad effects integration
Bad pacing
Bad internal consistency
Bad idea

Please, defend something worthy of your effort.

The plot was OK...not the best, but it was ok.

Acting was reasonable, please give specific examples

Direction was excellelent IMO

Musical score went well with the plot, what more can you ask for?

Effects integration was as good as the technology allowed - i've seen far worse contemporary examples

Pacing?  If you ask me that goes hand-in-hand with direction, see above

Consistency leaft a little to be desired

Bad idea?  subjective.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 04:16:19 am

Quote

Originally posted by Styxx
Ok, that had to be said. By the way, I lied.

Thank goodness. :D

Has anyone mentioned Mission To Mars yet?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 13, 2003, 05:02:11 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
Thank goodness. :D

Has anyone mentioned Mission To Mars yet?

Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 05:22:05 am

Quote

Originally posted by Styxx
Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D

I could say "Worst. Ending. EVAR.", but I don't think that would quite do MtM the justice it really deserves. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 13, 2003, 05:32:36 am

Quote

Originally posted by Styxx


Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D

Heh - I was the other way around - saw MtM, but not RP.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Razor on January 13, 2003, 06:18:17 am

I saw 007 while I was away on my holiday for the past few weeks. It's funny and quite good. There were some quite good scenes though. In the beginning when Bond walks over to that guy that carried "the ice", they capture him and Bond takes his sun glasses and gives him a weird smile. And that line: Hey boss, he broke your record!

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 06:51:30 am

They're showing Bond movies every week here in Sydney. I just realised; Scaramanga (The Man With The Golden Gun) is Saruman (Christopher Lee)!! :D

Well, it made me laugh. ;)

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 13, 2003, 06:58:56 am

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich


Heh - I was the other way around - saw MtM, but not RP.

same here. Btw, Steak ( rah, long time didn't call you that way :D ), you think MTM ending is bad? There's oh so much worse ( armageddon, etc ) :p

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 07:15:53 am

Quote

Originally posted by venom2506
same here. Btw, Steak ( rah, long time didn't call you that way :D ), you think MTM ending is bad? There's oh so much worse ( armageddon, etc ) :p

Ohhhh, Armageddon. :lol: I think I walked out of that and went to play FS2 instead (I was watching it on TV... bad decision). :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 13, 2003, 07:17:25 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
I could say "Worst. Ending. EVAR.", but I don't think that would quite do MtM the justice it really deserves. ;)

Bah, now I have to watch it. I love bad endings. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 07:28:32 am

Quote

Originally posted by Styxx
Bah, now I have to watch it. I love bad endings. :D

:lol:

Why don't you pick up Street Fighter, while you're at it? :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Goober5000 on January 13, 2003, 07:51:47 am

Mission to Mars was basically a remake of 2001.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Nico on January 13, 2003, 08:12:05 am

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh


:lol:

Why don't you pick up Street Fighter, while you're at it? :D

I think I decided that "thing never existed, I banned it from my mind. I'm not a fan of the game, but still I think that movie was an insult to the game. What the hell did Raul Julia do in that s***? His last role? Oh man I feel sorry for him.

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: ZylonBane on January 13, 2003, 09:39:46 am

Just to confuse people, I'm now going to reveal that I liked Lost In Space.

:nervous:

What?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Razor on January 13, 2003, 12:18:20 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Setekh
(Christopher Lee)!! :D

Wasn't he Australian?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Sandwich on January 13, 2003, 12:18:49 pm

Quote

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Just to confuse people, I'm now going to reveal that I liked Lost In Space.

Meh - I did too. So what?

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Styxx on January 13, 2003, 12:43:50 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Sandwich
Meh - I did too. So what?

The day I can do in MAX the opening battle scene from that movie, I'll consider myself happy with my skills. :D

Title: Movie Tastes
Post by: Setekh on January 14, 2003, 05:56:04 am

Quote

Originally posted by Razor
Wasn't he Australian?

I thought he was English... :nervous:

Lost In Space wasn't so bad; it had a lot of cool effects sequences, not least of which is the opening battle scene with those cool podfighters. ;)