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Title: Yeah, it's art... a bit of photography.
Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 09:48:44 pm
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_anthers_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_anthers.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_cactus_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_cactus.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_daisy_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_daisy.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_illuminate_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_illuminate.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_pink_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_pink.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_rose_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_rose.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/photo_succulent_sm.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/photography/succulent.jpg)

This has been my hobby after rendering (which I stopped 7 months ago - I've been taking photos for roughly the same amount of time). The photos you see here are a few macro shots of flora at a nearby botanical garden. Any comments? ;)
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Post by: Knight Templar on January 04, 2003, 09:49:50 pm
pretty.. you didn't edit them at all?
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Post by: Shrike on January 04, 2003, 09:54:25 pm
Aww, flowers.  You shouldn't have.  (http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/server-smilies/cwm/3dlil/hearton.gif)
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 09:55:01 pm
Edited them for brightness and contrast, and bumped up the saturation in a couple of places. That's it, I think. (The P31 produces very colour-rich photos, though its CCD doesn't produce quite as much line definition as you would expect from a good 2MP model.) I resized them down from 1600*1200 to their present form because of file size.
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 09:56:19 pm
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Originally posted by Shrike
Aww, flowers.  You shouldn't have.  (http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/server-smilies/cwm/3dlil/hearton.gif)


:lol: First this makes me laugh, and then it makes me nervous. :nervous:
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Post by: Knight Templar on January 04, 2003, 09:57:45 pm
That one flower looks like it has a light bulb in it. Ah well, nice :)
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 09:59:16 pm
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That one flower looks like it has a light bulb in it. Ah well, nice :)


Flash + really foggy night + closed-up daisy = flower with a light bulb in it :cool:
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Post by: Stryke 9 on January 04, 2003, 10:08:05 pm
Pretty cool. I definitely like the "glowing" one best, but the cactus closeup's pretty nice.
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Post by: Levyathan on January 04, 2003, 10:20:32 pm
Not the cactus again!

I like the last one better.
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Post by: Fetty on January 04, 2003, 10:22:48 pm
nice but wtf is a macro shot ?
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 10:22:56 pm
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Not the cactus again!

I like the last one better.


Again?
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Post by: Shrike on January 04, 2003, 10:23:12 pm
Big.

:D
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 10:23:54 pm
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Originally posted by Fetty
nice but wtf is a macro shot ?


Jargon for close-up. :)
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Post by: mikhael on January 04, 2003, 11:32:52 pm
Those are excellent, Steak. Shame you weren't using a good film SLR, though. The cactus is certainly the best, followed by the anthers.

I do flowers too, but only with the film camera. I never could get quite the depth of color, nor sharpness that I wanted from digital.

PM me the name of the botanical gardens so I can go there on my next trip. :D Oz is the only place I've been that had decent flora that I haven't photographed yet.
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Post by: Setekh on January 04, 2003, 11:55:20 pm
Hey, thanks man. :) Yeah, I chose digital mainly because I don't have the finances nor the facilities for developing. I must say, though, that sharpness is the one thing that suffers on my digicam - though I hope to amend that when I get my next model, which won't be quite as cheap. ;)

Oh, and Mik, that PM is on its way. :nod:
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Post by: Nobilis Draco on January 05, 2003, 12:46:06 am
Verry nice! the lightbulb-flower-thingy is one of the greatest technical effects shots i've seen (it was wasn't done with photoshop).  I've been meaning to post some of my photography for a while, you don't see any on HLP. I love macro photography before I got my macro lense I used to tape a magnifying lense to my 28-80mm which worked suprisingly well.

there really isn't ant reason to use film I'm a professional photographer and I've used digital for a couple years, with the quality of digital cameras today their much more practical and cost effective than film.

maybe I'll put up some of my stuff later.
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Post by: mikhael on January 05, 2003, 02:25:11 am
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
there really isn't ant reason to use film I'm a professional photographer and I've used digital for a couple years, with the quality of digital cameras today their much more practical and cost effective than film.


I would agree, but for one thing: I haven't seen a digital camera yet that produces an acceptable level of sharpness, nor the complete color range presented by old style film cameras. It gets better as the price goes up, but it never quite gets there.
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Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 04:43:59 am
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
Verry nice! the lightbulb-flower-thingy is one of the greatest technical effects shots i've seen (it was wasn't done with photoshop).  I've been meaning to post some of my photography for a while, you don't see any on HLP. I love macro photography before I got my macro lense I used to tape a magnifying lense to my 28-80mm which worked suprisingly well.


Thanks dude, I'm glad you like it! :) Nope, no effects, that's the photo almost entirely as it came out of the camera (resized down, brightness shoved down a little, as it happens). Yeah, I'd love to see some of your shots! By coincidence, Stryke and me posted some shots around the same time... maybe we can start a new trend around here. :D

I've been found out!! That's exactly what I'm doing right now! I use three 2x magnifying lens and stack them up in front of the shutter. It works like a dream, drops the minimal focal distance right down, and magnifies everything with pin-prick accuracy. Not bad for plastic lenses which cost me a few dollars at the local National Geographic shop, too... :nod:
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Post by: Redfang on January 05, 2003, 06:01:48 am
Those own. :eek2:
 
Too bad you don't render anymore...
 
Though photographs aren't worse. :p
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Post by: Stunaep on January 05, 2003, 06:07:09 am
You sir, have some serious talent there! The bulby, and the cactus, and stuff. Man, I don't care if it's not a Deimos, but a stupid flower, but it definately looks COOL!!!

maybe I should add you to the Bobbau+Styxx union?
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Post by: Gortef on January 05, 2003, 06:39:34 am
actually those are like made by a pro... (then again they are :D hehe)

really sharp photos and the objects are aligned properly too. Very well balanced.

I'd propably have tried editing the levels too though... might have prought even more details... I guess
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Post by: Nico on January 05, 2003, 06:44:31 am
that looks eery :yes:
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Post by: Styxx on January 05, 2003, 07:26:01 am
Hmm... Flowers. :D

Great work there, dude. I'm thinking of getting a macro lens myself, but I'd rather get a telescopic one first.
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Post by: Bobboau on January 05, 2003, 07:41:07 am
not bad but they need a few beam cannons :D
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Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:13:08 pm
Glad y'all like it. :) Flowers are one of my favourite subjects, because they're so amazingly detailed - think of the polys, the procedurals! :D I guess it's my rendering away from rendering.

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maybe I should add you to the Bobbau+Styxx union?


I'm not sure whether to be honoured, or run. :lol:
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Post by: Setekh on January 05, 2003, 11:20:17 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
not bad but they need a few beam cannons :D


SJ Cactus, maybe? :D

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/sj_cactus.jpg)
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Post by: mikhael on January 06, 2003, 12:12:15 am
And you worry about the sickness in my mind, Steak? You need deep deep help. ;)
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Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 12:17:30 am
...

Does that mean you don't like the cactus?

:D
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Post by: Stryke 9 on January 06, 2003, 12:31:06 am
There need to be more plants like that. Then, MAYBE, I might actually be more interested in gardening than, say, watching paint peel.

Or like the ones in Minority Report the movie (book didn't have them, did it?)
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Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 12:50:18 am
Hey, that's it! I'll manifest myself in miscellaneous plants for the render battle... hahah, that's so ridiculous. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Tiara on January 06, 2003, 01:35:19 am
Ok, that cactus ownz everything.

Never knew the Shivans were THIS powerfull :nervous:.
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Post by: Fineus on January 06, 2003, 01:53:21 am
It's times like this I wish I could change Setekhs vetname and get away with it ;)

But dude those photos are incredible! you have a way of using soft light in both photos and renders that just leaves me in awe every time :yes:
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Post by: Setekh on January 06, 2003, 03:25:15 am
Thanks. :) I might go find an online photography community and present some of my work to them, see what they think. ;)

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Never knew the Shivans were THIS powerfull :nervous:.


Remember Day of the Triffids? Those were Shivans :D
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Post by: Styxx on January 06, 2003, 07:16:45 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
Thanks. :) I might go find an online photography community and present some of my work to them, see what they think. ;)


Do that, and then link us to their comments. :D
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Post by: Tiara on January 06, 2003, 07:49:37 am
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Originally posted by Setekh

Remember Day of the Triffids? Those were Shivans :D


Eh... I hink thats either before my time here or I just had those particular braincells fried due to high computer screen radiation quantaties.
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Post by: Sheepy on January 06, 2003, 10:25:28 am
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Eh... I hink thats either before my time here or I just had those particular braincells fried due to high computer screen radiation quantaties.


IIRC they were tall stick like plants with jaws on top that ate people .... maybe im wrong :D
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Post by: vyper on January 07, 2003, 02:37:40 pm
Oooh I like the glowly one. A lot. And that Cactus is certainly evolved! (The one with beams I mean)
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Post by: Setekh on January 09, 2003, 04:08:45 am
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Originally posted by Styxx
Do that, and then link us to their comments. :D


The problem I'm having is actually finding an online photographers' community. :o The best I can find is at Renderosity, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. If anyone else can find one, I'd be grateful... ;)
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Post by: Styxx on January 09, 2003, 05:29:33 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
The problem I'm having is actually finding an online photographers' community. :o The best I can find is at Renderosity, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. If anyone else can find one, I'd be grateful... ;)


Yeah, I know what you mean. I was part of one here in Brazil, but it closed 'cause the "owner" thought there was too much spam and too little talk of photography.

:(
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Post by: Setekh on January 09, 2003, 05:45:46 am
That's no good. :( The bad news for me, is that... if there isn't a digital photography community online, is there going to be one anywhere? The web is the medium for digital photography, so I'm having serious doubts as to whether will even be a bunch of these guys in RL. :o
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Post by: Styxx on January 09, 2003, 05:47:28 am
You could always try to start one. ;)
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Post by: Setekh on January 09, 2003, 05:58:49 am
...

You know, that's not such a bad idea. :cool:
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Post by: Styxx on January 09, 2003, 06:22:29 am
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You know, that's not such a bad idea. :cool:


Specially since you already have the forums... ;)
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Post by: Nobilis Draco on January 09, 2003, 06:50:20 am
:yes::yes: to starting one. for an online art comunity including photographraphy try Something Leet (www.somethingleet.com) thats where I go. they're pretty big and therfore lack the "where everybody knows your name." feeling but take a look they have some pretty incredible artists in all mediums. Well except for oil painting.
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Post by: Setekh on January 10, 2003, 03:26:36 am
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Specially since you already have the forums... ;)


:D

Not sure what GameSpy would think about that, though. :)

Thanks for the link, ND, I'll check it out now. :nod:
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Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2003, 05:23:07 am
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Not sure what GameSpy would think about that, though. :)


I don't think it would be a big problem, being it part of HLP. After all, we all know they love us.

:D
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Post by: aldo_14 on January 10, 2003, 04:18:26 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara


Eh... I hink thats either before my time here or I just had those particular braincells fried due to high computer screen radiation quantaties.


Um... Day of the Triffids is a book.  The Triffids are slow, man-eating plants.  They're pretty harmless, because you can see them coming and kill 'em.  Until a 'green meteor shower' at the start of the book (which I think is suppossed to be an accidental explosion of a bio-weapon sattelite), which blinds the population of the UK (and maybe other countries...).  The book follows a few of the survivors, including a bloke who was in hospital for an eye operation and kept his sight, and generally is a post-apocalyptic sort of thing.  I only read it about 10 years ago, though.
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Post by: Setekh on January 10, 2003, 10:06:27 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx
I don't think it would be a big problem, being it part of HLP. After all, we all know they love us.

:D


What, with us hogging all their space and bandwidth? Naturally... :D
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Post by: Setekh on January 10, 2003, 11:37:29 pm
Okay, I got comments from the SomethingLeet forums. :nod: Here's my thread: http://www.somethingleet.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15784

And here are the comments (there aren't many, yet):

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The shots are all quite vivid. But there is no real intriquing focal point while the flowers to draw intrest. They look well ordinary no real drama or emotion to the photo. I would recommened try looking at the subjects under diffrent lighting conditions (i.e. a storm) and diffrent perspectives and angles bring some orginallity to the subject. There are some very nice composed photos in particular the cactus. Though in that shot the frame is too filled with the subject. Overall the composition needs some work. Stay with photography and keep shooting and you can only get better.


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wow, very vivid, great colors

photo_illuminate.jpg is beautiful, i really like that one, and usualy i am not a fan of flower shots


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photo_illuminate.jpg is my favorite of the bunch.

you took those with a p31? did you touch them up at all?


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Awesome photos, i like em :)


:D

Anyway, it's great, I love getting feedback... I really need to refine my technique. ;)