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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Nobilis Draco on January 08, 2003, 12:17:15 am
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I was bored this is what happened. Started out as another one of my fake attempts but I started PSing and it went in a different direction.
LW 7.5
PS 7
(http://www.jimburton.com/images/trifoogfx.jpg)
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Pretty cool.. has the alien arrival feeling :) :yes:
However the black ship things don't seem to fit into the image very well because the rest of the image looks like it is a photo (which it is) but the black ships look obviously rendered rather than being part of the photo. So I guess they're a bit too "clear"...
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too black i think. jusr make them a dark gray, maybe R96, G96, B96, and they'll fit into the picture better, because the photo it's self is so bright. nice ships, though. they look more "alien" that most flying saucers you'd see.
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What Carl said, AND the ships are in too tight of a formation. Put a bit of wobble so that their corners aren't all in the same line. Nothing in the universe lines up perfectly.
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Move the right-most one even further right, add some sparks and fire-balls and make it look like it hit the power(?)-lines.
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take out the word "arrival" and put some phony news-ish type stuff around the image :D
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Thanks
I have them in perfect formation intentionaly. they're super advanced aliens they should be able to keep their ships in line. it gives an advanced, mechanical highly inteligent feel. The noise is supposed to be interference to the electronics of the camera aliens cause all kinds of interference.
as for the brightness and all that nonsense
1.)they're in the shadow of a clound
2.)Triangle ufos are black saucers are metal/grey(pink if you're my uncle herbert.)
3.) bright picture not so bright plane
(http://archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/AIRCRAFT-IMAGES/KC-10_with_F-117.jpg)
4.) it started as a photorealism project and turned into an art piece.
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I like it. :):yes: Nowadays, I'm often able to blend reality and fiction... with the handy new camera. ;) I should start rendering in a new way. :D
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The only thing that strikes me is that the ships see too flat.
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Originally posted by Setekh
I like it. :):yes: Nowadays, I'm often able to blend reality and fiction... with the handy new camera. ;) I should start rendering in a new way. :D
can't wait to see what you come up with! I love photocomposite.
yeah, the flatness bugged me to I've since changed some surface properties so it shows the geomety better.
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
I have them in perfect formation intentionaly. they're super advanced aliens they should be able to keep their ships in line. it gives an advanced, mechanical highly inteligent feel.
Somehow they completely ignore errant winds, changes in air pressure, and Command Zirob's twitch on the stick... They're not just advanced, they're completely fantastical. ;)
It doesn't give an "advanced, mechanical, highly intelligent feel" to me, ND. It gives me a "CG image pasted into photo feel".
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If the aliens couldn't make their ships line up properly they'd hardly be on another planet. They'd be at home adjusting their flight controls.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
If the aliens couldn't make their ships line up properly they'd hardly be on another planet. They'd be at home adjusting their flight controls.
There's lining up and then there's LINING UP PERFECTLY.
These are two entirely different things.
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Who said they're lining up perfectly? You obviously aren't able to tell just by looking at a picture taken from that distance.
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Even assuming they are not in the same elevation, they are all in exactly the same orientation. The objects appear to have been cloned and moved apart.
I noticed the artificial looking formation. I mentioned it. Nobilis Draco confirmed that they were intentionally carefully lined up. Which part of that did you miss?
Short version: they look like CG photoshopped into a photo. A little IMPERFECTION goes a long way to making things look plausible (and dare I abuse the word by saying "realistic"?).
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Originally posted by mikhael
Even assuming they are not in the same elevation, they are all in exactly the same orientation.
How do you know they are exactly in the same orientation? And don't say "because it's a render and he told me so" - assume, for a moment, that it's a real picture.
Originally posted by mikhael
Short version: they look like CG photoshopped into a photo. A little IMPERFECTION goes a long way to making things look plausible (and dare I abuse the word by saying "realistic"?).
Of course. I just didn't know you were a realistic alien technology expert.
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
can't wait to see what you come up with! I love photocomposite.
Yeah, I think my latest one (quite a while ago) was this... :)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/meteor.jpg)
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Originally posted by Setekh
Yeah, I think my latest one (quite a while ago) was this... :)
Nice.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
How do you know they are exactly in the same orientation? And don't say "because it's a render and he told me so" - assume, for a moment, that it's a real picture.
Um... because I've got a good eye for parallel lines? And I'm geek enough to break out a parallel line ruler and check?
Of course. I just didn't know you were a realistic alien technology expert.
You can be forgiven for not knowing. I keep my Doctorate in Advanced Fictional Physics and Theoretical Fantastical Technology a secret generally. Do you know how often I have Stephen Baxter and Peter Hamilton on the phone asking me how alien stuff works?
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Originally posted by mikhael
You can be forgiven for not knowing. I keep my Doctorate in Advanced Fictional Physics and Theoretical Fantastical Technology a secret generally. Do you know how often I have Stephen Baxter and Peter Hamilton on the phone asking me how alien stuff works?
Oooh, do you get Mike Wong and Curtis Saxton on the phone too?
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Originally posted by mikhael
Um... because I've got a good eye for parallel lines? And I'm geek enough to break out a parallel line ruler and check?
I think my brother's point is, even if they seem to be perfectly aligned there, the image may not have sufficient resolution, or the angle might not be the best, for us to detect minor flaws in the alignment - so there might be flaws, you just can't see them.
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Originally posted by Setekh
Yeah, I think my latest one (quite a while ago) was this... :)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/meteor.jpg)
very, very cool!
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No, Shrike. Those two don't register (ie: they're not on my bookshelf... yet. Should they be?)
Originally posted by Styxx
I think my brother's point is, even if they seem to be perfectly aligned there, the image may not have sufficient resolution, or the angle might not be the best, for us to detect minor flaws in the alignment - so there might be flaws, you just can't see them.
That doesn't signify. They pop out of the photo right now because they're too perfect, and thus do not integrate. I don't know a better way to put it than that. If I noticed, its a fair bet that other will too, and the desired effect will be lost. I'm just trying to offer constructive criticism here.
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Originally posted by mikhael
No, Shrike. Those two don't register (ie: they're not on my bookshelf... yet. Should they be?)
Never mind, it's a bit of an injoke and wouldn't make sense if you don't go to Spacebattles.
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This one is aiming for believability.
(http://www.jimburton.com/images/ufofieldcomp.jpg)
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The craft looks a bit crisp, but otherwise looks good--especially the shadow.
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
This one is aiming for believability.
(http://www.jimburton.com/images/ufofieldcomp.jpg)
:lol:
straight out of a cheap sci-fi movie!!
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Was that a compliment:wtf:
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Originally posted by Nobilis Draco
Was that a compliment:wtf:
yes it was ND. Cheap Sci-fi movies don't have enough money for 3d models, or for good physical modelers, so what they do is get a crane type thing, and hang something odd and alienish from it. Your pic being the result!
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well in that case, thanks... I think.;)
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That last one is cool, but the feel that I get from the ship is that it's very large and on the distance - perhaps a bit beyond the first set of trees - and it doesn't match the shadow.
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I thought a little more blur would be appropriate... I think this just about does it. :)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/ufofieldcomp_blur.jpg)
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Originally posted by Styxx
That last one is cool, but the feel that I get from the ship is that it's very large and on the distance - perhaps a bit beyond the first set of trees - and it doesn't match the shadow.
now that you mention it, that's true it looks like a uge ship far away. As for the shadow, I think it should be fainetr ( not sure about the use of theword, I mean should be harder to notice )