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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ulundel on January 08, 2003, 01:29:38 pm
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Here's the deal. I'm writing an article about the best games of 2002 and I could use some other opinions too. Besides me, Gamespot and PC Gamer that is. :)
Go.
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Whatever you do make sure to include Age of Mythology, Morrowind and NOLF2
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Morrowind's probably out.
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Why? :(
It got RPG of the year from Gamespy, Avault (might be wrong here) and TeleFragged
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We'll see
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*strains to remember last years games*
Mafia
NOLF2
GTA3
Hitman 2
...
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HEGEMONIA! HEGEMONIA!- 8357 G4|\/|3 3\/3R!!!!!!
America's Army: Operations
I didn't like BF1942 too much, so I'm not going to nominate it. It's load times are too long, the people that play it online aren't very fun, and the bot AI sux0rs.
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OK, the first five...any comments?
1. No One Lives Forever 2
2. Warcraft 3
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. GTA 3
5. Medieval: Total war
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I probably cannot give any good opinions since I only bought one new game last year (UT2003), but that one was certainly very good.
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6. UT 2003 :D
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I suggest to replace Warcraft 3 with either Mafia or... UT2003
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Originally posted by CP5670
I probably cannot give any good opinions since I only bought one new game last year (UT2003), but that one was certainly very good.
How the heck do you kill things without the mouse? I mean, the enemys can jump, they could be up a walkway or something.
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yeah, warcraft3.
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Hardly any good games came out for 2002.
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Same for every year. If you wanted a list of ten genuinely good games, I can guarantee that the list would span at least three years. Except for 1995, which for some reason had an ungodly number of cool games.
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Last years games? WC3 and BF1942 I suppose.. note that most of them I have only played in the last 3 weeks (minus WC3)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Last years games? WC3 and BF1942 I suppose.. note that most of them I have only played in the last 3 weeks (minus WC3)
I think WC3 was massively overrated. I'd have said GTA3 (despite the lazy port). BF1942 for definite, also Mafia and wasn't Medal of Honour: Allied Assault released this year? That game was pretty ****ing awesome.
If your not just talking PC games however, Halo. God damn I've been playing games since the ****ing Vectrex and NOTHING has ever held my attention or demanded my respect of the programmers quite like this game.
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I would've said something like mafia that I want.. but WC3 and BF are the only games from last year that I have opened and played.
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*hasn't played any computer game released last year*
Tell you what, drop 2002 and go for '99! :D
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BF1942 for definite, also Mafia and wasn't Medal of Honour: Allied Assault released this year? That game was pretty ****ing awesome.
That's what it was! I was thinking that I bought one other game last year but could not remember what; it was this one. Another very good one. I play online with this quite often too.
*hasn't played any computer game released last year*
Tell you what, drop 2002 and go for '99!
Yes, we all know what your favorite game is. :D Now that I have played it a bit, I can see why, although I still cannot understand this "scary" thing... :wtf:
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C&C: Renegade - it seems to be a FS2-type game: didn't sell very well, but it's as fun as heck to play. :nod:
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Originally posted by CP5670
Yes, we all know what your favorite game is. :D
:D
Originally posted by CP5670
Now that I have played it a bit, I can see why, although I still cannot understand this "scary" thing... :wtf:
You're weird!
...So you managed to download the demo? I was afraid it wouldn't work... I tried to download it (just to check the server) and it kept freezing after 0.9mbs.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
You're weird!
Ah.
Hint: He's lying.
:p
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Originally posted by Sandwich
C&C: Renegade - it seems to be a FS2-type game: didn't sell very well, but it's as fun as heck to play. :nod:
multiplay of that rawks...especially with choppers
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You're weird!
you got that right. :D
...So you managed to download the demo? I was afraid it wouldn't work... I tried to download it (just to check the server) and it kept freezing after 0.9mbs.
Actually, I had the same problem too; after trying it two or three times I gave up on that link. A couple of Google searches revealed nothing useful either. I eventually ended up downloading the full version from HOTU, as that was the only link that worked correctly. It took a full night, since their servers are extremely slow and the file was a good 243mb, but it was well worth it. If I continue to like the game I will probably buy it since it must be pretty cheap by now, but I cannot recall seeing it anywhere.
The story is a little confusing though; I thought everyone on the Von Braun is supposed to be dead for whatever reason, but then why is this Polito giving you orders? And who are those hybrid guys? (they are pretty funny though; walking around like zombies and mumbling some nonsense about ending harmony and whatnot, until they get smashed by a guy with a wrench :D)
The game has a lot in common with Deus Ex by the way (which is a very, very good thing in my book :D); are the two made by the same people or something? Some things are better executed in SS2 and other things are superior in DX, but overall the gameplay systems are quite similar. Also, one thing I really like about this game is the limited quantities of ammo, since here's what happens to me in most FPS games: there is so much ammo that I end up using only weapons for which there is extra ammo lying around and I cannot carry due to already having a full load, and whenever I find some really good weapon, I keep saving it for later, intending to use it on some harder guy, only to finish the game with a full load. :p
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Originally posted by CP5670
I eventually ended up downloading the full version from HOTU, as that was the only link that worked correctly. It took a full night, since their servers are extremely slow and the file was a good 243mb, but it was well worth it. If I continue to like the game I will probably buy it since it must be pretty cheap by now, but I cannot recall seeing it anywhere.
Does that version have cutscenes? Don't continue without cutscenes!
Oh, and do buy the game if you like it. One of the companies who created it is still alive, and a Shock 3 is still possible. :nod:
Originally posted by CP5670
The story is a little confusing though; I thought everyone on the Von Braun is supposed to be dead for whatever reason, but then why is this Polito giving you orders? And who are those hybrid guys? (they are pretty funny though; walking around like zombies and mumbling some nonsense about ending harmony and whatnot, until they get smashed by a guy with a wrench :D)
You can't expect me to answer those questions, right? Find out yourself!
And we call the guy with the wrench Goggles. :D
Originally posted by CP5670
The game has a lot in common with Deus Ex by the way (which is a very, very good thing in my book :D); are the two made by the same people or something?
Well, Warren Spector (producer of Deus Ex) did work on Shock 1, but not on Shock 2. And just for the record, Shock 2 was released before Deus Ex. :)
Originally posted by CP5670
Some things are better executed in SS2 and other things are superior in DX, but overall the gameplay systems are quite similar.
Deus Ex definitely has better graphics, while I'd say Shock 2 sounds are superior (the way sound propagates is just awesome). Can't say much more, still have got to play through Deus Ex.
Originally posted by CP5670
Also, one thing I really like about this game is the limited quantities of ammo, since here's what happens to me in most FPS games: there is so much ammo that I end up using only weapons for which there is extra ammo lying around and I cannot carry it due to already having a full load, and whenever I find some really good weapon, I keep saving it for later, intending to use it on some harder guy, only to finish the game with a full load. :p
Hint of the day: the wrench is your friend.
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Don't forget BF1942. That's the best FPS of the year and quite an experience, IMHO (after buying pretty much everything else on j00r list)
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Don't forget BF1942. That's the best FPS of the year and quite an experience, IMHO (after buying pretty much everything else on j00r list)
I already said that Sucka! :p
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Well, I said it again. :p
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You're derailing the discussion!
Oh no, wait. I derailed the discussion.
Okay, you can continue.
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Neverwinter Nights is the only game I play that came out this year, but it is quite good. Nice multiplayer, the editor allows people to make new campaigns, main campaign sucked a bit though.
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Originally posted by Styxx
Ah.
Hint: He's lying.
:p
Either that or he's an alien. Knowing him like we do, we can't eliminate any of the possibilities.
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Continuum! :D
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fs2_open_3.4. Released 12/31/2002. :D
:nervous:
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Here's the complete list...
1. NOLF2
2. Warcraft 3
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. GTA3
5. Age of Mythology
6. UT 2003
7. Medieval: Total war
8. Morrowind
9. Mafia
10. Battlefield 1942
Any comments?
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Yes. I just burnt myself touching a light bulb that was turned on for the last five hours.
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
Here's the complete list...
1. NOLF2
2. Warcraft 3
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. GTA3
5. Age of Mythology
6. UT 2003
7. Medieval: Total war
8. Morrowind
9. Mafia
10. Battlefield 1942
Any comments?
In that order?
Originally posted by Levyathan
Yes. I just burnt myself touching a light bulb that was turned on for the last five hours.
Sucks to be you.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
In that order?
O'course
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Originally posted by Levyathan
*hasn't played any computer game released last year*
I'd be you except for UT2003. Wait, that makes me CP... ;)
Anyway, just wait till Halo gets to PC! :D
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Originally posted by Setekh
Wait, that makes me CP... ;)
* points and laughs *
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Eh? What happened to Medal of Honor: Allied Assault?!
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Originally posted by Cannikin
Eh? What happened to Medal of Honor: Allied Assault?!
Oh, you mean "DIE!"? :D
[/end only-works-in-portuguese joke]
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Originally posted by Analazon
multiplay of that rawks...especially with choppers
;7 Where do you play? Anything in Eurpoe by any chance?
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Originally posted by Styxx
Oh, you mean "DIE!"? :D
[/end only-works-in-portuguese joke]
MOHAA = DIE
?
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Originally posted by Setekh
MOHAA = DIE
?
Phonetically.
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Originally posted by Styxx
Phonetically.
Hah, gotcha. ;) Reminds me of when Sandwich told me the Hebrew word for 'love', and the Hebrew characters looked like the English word "OWN". :D
Or maybe I'm just imagining things... :nervous:
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Originally posted by 01010
I think WC3 was massively overrated..
YES!!!
Age of Mythology beats it anytime.
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
Here's the complete list...
1. NOLF2
2. Warcraft 3
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. GTA3
5. Age of Mythology
6. UT 2003
7. Medieval: Total war
8. Morrowind
9. Mafia
10. Battlefield 1942
Any comments?
Swap GTA3 and UT2003, then I'm happy.
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Originally posted by Setekh
Hah, gotcha. ;) Reminds me of when Sandwich told me the Hebrew word for 'love', and the Hebrew characters looked like the English word "OWN". :D
Or maybe I'm just imagining things... :nervous:
That was in that one Hebrew font you found... it occurred in that render you did with half of it text in that font... post it and I'll find where/what it is. ;)
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Originally posted by Styxx
Oh, you mean "DIE!"? :D
:lol:
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Deus Ex. Only one game, Deus Ex lol! This game really rocks!!:nod: :cool:
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Yeah!
*points to siggy*
:p
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Originally posted by Sandwich
That was in that one Hebrew font you found... it occurred in that render you did with half of it text in that font... post it and I'll find where/what it is. ;)
Yes please. :)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/s-trueform.jpg)
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Ahh, there it is:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/sandwich/hebrish.jpg)
That word, "own", I think? The Hebrew letters it uses mean "The Name", which is translated into "The Lord" in most Bibles.
And Setekh, since God is Love, you aren't imagining things. :D
As an aside, I told Setekh when he first showed me that render that I find it nearly impossible to read that text - the Hebrew letters confuse me too much. :p :lol:
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hey, there are partial derivative symbols in there! ;7 (the capital A's look like ¶'s :D) And there is also the s that looks like the sigma variant.
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Originally posted by CP5670
hey, there are partial derivative symbols in there! ;7 (the capital A's look like ¶'s :D) And there is also the s that looks like the sigma variant.
The capital "A"s are a messed up backwards Hebrew "P" sound... and the "S" is a backwards "L"
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ahh, there it is:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/sandwich/hebrish.jpg)
That word, "own", I think? The Hebrew letters it uses mean "The Name", which is translated into "The Lord" in most Bibles.
And Setekh, since God is Love, you aren't imagining things. :D
As an aside, I told Setekh when he first showed me that render that I find it nearly impossible to read that text - the Hebrew letters confuse me too much. :p :lol:
That's so cool. :) I've gotta dig up that font again and make a poster or something with it, something which says something like "I OWN You". :D
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What about "Resistance is futile"???:D
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
What about "Resistance is futile"???:D
That's my line... :D
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
Morrowind's probably out.
What????????????????morrowind owns all other games..graphic story all and tribunal owns also:p
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Originally posted by Analazon
multiplay of that rawks...especially with choppers
You guys ever play online??? i'l snipe ya then:p
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Originally posted by USS Alexander
You guys ever play online??? i'l snipe ya then:p
had to give it back to my friend :blah:
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Originally posted by USS Alexander
What????????????????morrowind owns all other games..graphic story all and tribunal owns also:p
Don't worry. See my final list - it's in :)
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Originally posted by USS Alexander
You guys ever play online??? i'l snipe ya then:p
I do. Mainly Gamesdomain.co.uk servers via gamespy - WOL sucks.
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Never have any trouble with WOL usualy i am in the big games 40+ people (more ladder pionts) nick is toxuc should be in top 100 in the ladder........havent playd much lately
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not going to reaed 3 pages, but if "WARCRAFT 3" isn't one of the top 10 then it really should be
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ahh, there it is:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/sandwich/hebrish.jpg)
That word, "own", I think? The Hebrew letters it uses mean "The Name", which is translated into "The Lord" in most Bibles.
And Setekh, since God is Love, you aren't imagining things. :D
As an aside, I told Setekh when he first showed me that render that I find it nearly impossible to read that text - the Hebrew letters confuse me too much. :p :lol:
i take it you consider yourself Christian?
cool
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Originally posted by Stealth
not going to reaed 3 pages, but if "WARCRAFT 3" isn't one of the top 10 then it really should be
1. NOLF2
2. Warcraft 3
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. GTA3
5. Age of Mythology
6. UT 2003
7. Medieval: Total war
8. Morrowind
9. Mafia
10. Battlefield 1942
:)
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one thing I noticed: Morrowind should be up a place. Just noticed it got the Readers Choice and Editors Choice awards of the RPG of the Year 2002, IGN.
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cool :)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
one thing I noticed: Morrowind should be up a place. Just noticed it got the Readers Choice and Editors Choice awards of the RPG of the Year 2002, IGN.
I'll replace it with medieval but that's it. It can't beat those others...and though Morrowind is better than Age of Mythology, I must trust prof reviewers instincts too.
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Splinter Cell= Best **** game of 2002!!!
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Mind if I list:
[list=1]
- Jedi Knight II Jedi Outcast
- The Thing ;7
- Warcraft 3
- GTA 3
[/list=1]
Ok. It's not 10, but that's all of the new games I played the last year.
This year, I am waiting for Max Payne 2.
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yeah, i'd say WC3, JKII, and GTA3 should be in the top 10 :)
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Originally posted by Stealth
i take it you consider yourself Christian?
cool
Yeah, although that title doesn't really go over very well here - there've been quite a number of atrocities done in the past in the name of Christianity. :doubt:
Oh well - my life is my witness, not history. :nod:
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I was thinking here...do you have to belive in God in order to be a christian? :)
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more or less.. that's the idea.
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allah ? jachwe (or so)?
and whatabout protestants ?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
more or less.. that's the idea.
Well, in that case, I'm not christian.
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Wizardry 8.
Probably the last RPG we'll see for a long, long time...
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Star Wars Galaxies comes to mind as an RPG..
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Knights of the old republic too...