Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mishakuz on January 10, 2003, 10:29:04 pm

Title: Deimos question
Post by: Mishakuz on January 10, 2003, 10:29:04 pm
Please Help

I'm thinking about doing a mission where a ship has to go  though the big hole in an Arcadia. I was wondering if the Deimos Corvette could go through the hole.

thanx

(I also posted this in the General Freespace forum, if that's a problem then remove this FRED)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Mishakuz on January 10, 2003, 10:30:23 pm
LOL (I'm falling asleap)

I ment to write "thread" and not "FRED":) :) :)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 10, 2003, 10:32:02 pm
Er... not unless it was gonna make the hole a lot wider by ramming it a couple times. Deimoses are big.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Levyathan on January 10, 2003, 10:36:50 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mishakuz
I ment to write "thread" and not "FRED":) :) :)

Editing is A1-SUPAR!
Title: Deimos question
Post by: CP5670 on January 10, 2003, 11:11:02 pm
You can probably fit any of the cruisers (except the Mentu) through the hole, but I think that's about it.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Knight Templar on January 10, 2003, 11:37:13 pm
Ironically... I just tried doing something similiar with a triton and cargo... too small, so I doubt anything bigger such as a cruiser will fit, much less a Deimos.

Oh, and a good way of finding out is .. trying it... :nod:
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 11, 2003, 12:34:06 am
Hey, there's this key on my keyboard with a picture of a semicolon on it. Does anyone know if I can press it to get a semicolon? I was thinking about writing something that might use one.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Knight Templar on January 11, 2003, 12:37:50 am
Oh Sweet music to my ears
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Goober5000 on January 11, 2003, 01:10:53 am
Quote
Originally posted by ZylonBane
Hey, there's this key on my keyboard with a picture of a semicolon on it. Does anyone know if I can press it to get a semicolon? I was thinking about writing something that might use one.


What if I want to use the colon instead?  Do I need a new keyboard?

*wishes not to offend the newb... if he is offended, I apologize :nod:*
Title: Deimos question
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 11, 2003, 01:12:45 am
No, this one seems to have a sense of humour. That said, a few suitably caustic lines from ZB is usually enough to reduce strong men to tears :)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Goober5000 on January 11, 2003, 01:17:56 am
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
No, this one seems to have a sense of humour.


The humor is strong with this one...

( if you know the etymology of humor, that's a really cool pun :cool: )

Quote
That said, a few suitably caustic lines from ZB is usually enough to reduce strong men to tears :)


Yeah... mention the word "ballistic" anywhere near him, and he goes -- erm, ballistic. :lol:


Spoiler:
EDIT: replaced berserk with ballistic to make it funnier :nod:
Title: Deimos question
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 11, 2003, 01:20:15 am
Still, no Google links this time, so all is not lost :)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: NeoHunter on January 11, 2003, 01:26:28 am
If you want a bigger hole, fire a couple of trans-phasic torpedoes at the edges of the hole of the Arcadia space installation. It might help.:p

Or you could "ram it until it gives up".
Title: Deimos question
Post by: beatspete on January 11, 2003, 10:41:06 am
Having had a check in FRED.... no, corvetes will not fit through, though any cruiser, including a Mentu, will.


Freespace dictionary-
Cruiser: A warship small enought to fit throught the hole in an GTI arcadia.
;)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 11, 2003, 11:17:52 am
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Still, no Google links this time, so all is not lost :)
If anyone can explain dg's Google-phobia to me, I'd be most appreciative. Maybe he hates it when people actually support their own arguments?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 11, 2003, 08:33:26 pm
No, what I really can't stand is a cliche, which is what you and Google have become :nod:
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Ulundel on January 12, 2003, 02:45:05 am
Quote
Originally posted by ZylonBane
Hey, there's this key on my keyboard with a picture of a semicolon on it. Does anyone know if I can press it to get a semicolon? I was thinking about writing something that might use one.


oh quiet you
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Goober5000 on January 12, 2003, 03:33:20 am
did you know, you can't use a semicolon in your messages in FRED - it messes everything up because the parser thinks you're starting a comment

and the percent sign does some weird stuff too
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 12, 2003, 09:58:11 am
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
No, what I really can't stand is a cliche, which is what you and Google have become :nod:
Oh, I'm sure everyone would LOVE to hear you explain how a search engine can be a cliche.

(sits down with bowl of popcorn)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 12, 2003, 02:01:27 pm
No, look... pay attention please:

1. Newbie posts daft question.

2. Nine times out of ten, ZB posts a link to a Google search page

3. I groan at the cliche


See? It's your going posting a Google link to support evey other argument that gets me. It's so... predictable, you know? A little more variety is what I ask of you. Which is why I remarked that you hadn't Googled the poor chap in this thread - quite a refreshing change :)

Can I have a handful of your popcorn, please?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 12, 2003, 02:39:34 pm
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
See? It's your going posting a Google link to support evey other argument that gets me. It's so... predictable, you know? A little more variety is what I ask of you.
Wow. I... I'm almost speechless. The sheer vacuousness of this remark is breathtaking in the extreme. I must take a moment to absorb this revelation about your personality.

...

...

(almost there)

...

Ok. It appears you're suffering some sort of sociopathic disconnect here, so I'll attempt to explain using very simple words. The reason I post links is to inform. It is not to entertain. It is a utilitarian act, like ending sentences with a period. Does it bother you that (almost) every sentence ends with a period? Do you spend your days attempting to come up with novel ways to accomplish tasks like breathing and eating?

Yeesh. :doubt:
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 12, 2003, 02:44:25 pm
TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVE! TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN-


Crap, I'm early, aren't I?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 12, 2003, 02:47:21 pm
Oh, suit yourself. You're right about not entertaining, but I had assumed you do it only to annoy. Let's face it - have you actually made any friends here by the virtue of the constant, unfiltered sarcasm and linkage? How about the VBB? Dude, I used to have the greatest of respect for you at the VBB thanks to your seemingly infinite knowledge of FRED, but now I realise that sarcasm is all you do. Ever. To quote Aldo, it's getting on my tits.

I know this game. I played it with my brother when we were kids. The aim is to annoy the other guy until he gets cross, and in some strange way that's a victory. Well, you've scored a point, Zylon - you've annoyed me mightily.

I have a question - in real life, do you have friends who put up with your incessant piss-takage? Or do you only do that online, where you don't run the risk of being punched in the face for being a little tit?


--------------------------------
Disclaimers:

1. Sorry to Mishakuz for getting his thread closed
2. A dollar says ZB will now ask what I mean by piss-takage
Title: Deimos question
Post by: kode on January 12, 2003, 02:51:57 pm
ZB, you were actually better at this at the VBB. however, you still have a point.

DG: don't even go there. It doesn't work. It never has.

Stryke: no, you were just in time.


so, how do I free beams in fs2?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 12, 2003, 05:43:13 pm
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Oh, suit yourself. You're right about not entertaining, but I had assumed you do it only to annoy.
Yet another personality revelation-- DG finds substantiated claims annoying.

Quote
Let's face it - have you actually made any friends here by the virtue of the constant, unfiltered sarcasm and linkage?
Beats me. I don't ask. I do vaguely recall Plasma posting approving remarks after some of my more sarcastic remarks on the VBB.

Quote
Dude, I used to have the greatest of respect for you at the VBB thanks to your seemingly infinite knowledge of FRED, but now I realise that sarcasm is all you do. Ever.
Uhm, so now you "realize" that I didn't actually have all that FRED knowledge?? And a quick forum search can inarguably prove that sarcasm is not all I do.

Quote
Well, you've scored a point, Zylon - you've annoyed me mightily.
Except that I almost never direct my sarcastic remarks at you. You've taken it upon yourself to be annoyed by me. I recommed a more productive hobby.

Quote
I have a question - in real life, do you have friends who put up with your incessant piss-takage?
My friends in real life are, on average, a lot more clueful than the people I mess with here, so it hasn't come up.

So what have we learned from this latest exchange? That DG is annoyed by hyperlinks and third-party facts, and has highly selective perception when it comes to people who annoy him.

So, like, are you done now?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Knight Templar on January 12, 2003, 06:19:43 pm
Am I the only that is amused everytime Zylon informs a member?


I may be slightly biased though.. It's not like I like sarcasm or anything.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 12, 2003, 06:25:36 pm
So long as it's nobody I like...:D
Title: Deimos question
Post by: StratComm on January 12, 2003, 08:28:12 pm
Back on topic, I don't know if any capship will fly through the Arcadia.  I had a similar problem with my knossos, ships wouldn't pass through it but instrad rammed an invisible wall when they entered.  I couldn't figure out why though.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Sesquipedalian on January 13, 2003, 02:53:58 am
That's because there is an invisible wall.  But there should be a "dont collide invisible" flag in the Knossos' table entry.  You must have removed it.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Sandwich on January 13, 2003, 06:18:27 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
That's because there is an invisible wall.  But there should be a "dont collide invisible" flag in the Knossos' table entry.  You must have removed it.


Knossos? You must either be more tired than Mishakuz with his FRED/thread mix-up, or "on" something.... and for some reason I doubt it's the latter. ;)

Now, on to the fun stuff.... ;7 *breaks out into song*

Zylon and Diamond, sittin' in a tree... :D


*runs*
Title: Deimos question
Post by: ZylonBane on January 13, 2003, 09:45:13 am
(http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/42/109842.jpg)

I get to be Jack Lemmon.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: StratComm on January 13, 2003, 02:44:22 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
That's because there is an invisible wall.  But there should be a "dont collide invisible" flag in the Knossos' table entry.  You must have removed it.


You're right that it worked fine.  My problem was with the Archangel and DTP's build of the source, it didn't let the supercap pass through the knossos or my custom knossos, despite the fact that both were big enough to accomodate the ship.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Goober5000 on January 13, 2003, 02:51:06 pm
Arg - that might be my fault.  Does "dont-collide-invisible" work with other ships?
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Sesquipedalian on January 13, 2003, 08:19:57 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich


Knossos? You must either be more tired than Mishakuz with his FRED/thread mix-up, or "on" something.... and for some reason I doubt it's the latter. ;)
No, open it up in ModelView.  There is a big invisible box surrounding the whole thing.
...Seriously! :nervous:;)
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Sandwich on January 14, 2003, 08:41:46 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
No, open it up in ModelView.  There is a big invisible box surrounding the whole thing.
...Seriously! :nervous:;)


Ahh, I missed StratComm's referral to the Knossos in his post completely - I thought he was still referring to the Arcadia.

And on a side note, the Ganymede has that big invisible box as well.
Title: Deimos question
Post by: heretic on January 14, 2003, 08:57:56 am
I think if you remove the box, and sides, it could work, although I've only put a ship in a Ganymede in 3dsm
Title: Deimos question
Post by: Goober5000 on January 23, 2003, 09:49:58 pm
To return to the topic, this was my fault.  When I added the don't-collide-invisible sexp, I changed some collision flags, and I goofed and didn't change some of them properly.  Next build, it should work correctly.  Sorry about that. :o