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Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 12, 2003, 10:19:26 am

Who is the better AI? Consider such elements as intelligence, fear factor, nefariousness and so on.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 10:30:37 am

I may not even know who Helios is, but SHODAN certainly could kick its ass any day. That's what she does to everyone.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Fury on January 12, 2003, 10:38:45 am

Huh? What is this about? Shodan? Helios? Eh :wtf: ?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: beatspete on January 12, 2003, 10:44:38 am

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Huh? What is this about? Shodan? Helios? Eh

Yeah, who?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 10:49:03 am

SHODAN, the Sentient Hyper-Optimized Data Access Network
(http://www.sshock2.com/ss2mmdb/artwork/shodan_new.jpg)

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: beatspete on January 12, 2003, 10:54:35 am

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Originally posted by Levyathan
SHODAN, the Sentient Hyper-Optimized Data Access Network

a what? what does that have to do with anything, what is the other one, and why may they be better than each other?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Fury on January 12, 2003, 11:01:07 am

And let me guess... Helios is the AI from Deus Ex?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Fineus on January 12, 2003, 11:09:13 am

If only he meant the D3 Hellion ;)

(http://www.descent-3.com/models/he_pers.jpg)

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 11:24:03 am

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
And let me guess... Helios is the AI from Deus Ex?

Seems like it.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Shrike on January 12, 2003, 11:41:34 am

Now, for increased fun, SHODAN versus a Culture Mind.

Ok, that's unfair....

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: mikhael on January 12, 2003, 12:09:35 pm

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Originally posted by Thunder
If only he meant the D3 Hellion ;)

(http://www.descent-3.com/models/he_pers.jpg)

Hot damn. I need to play D3.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 12, 2003, 01:54:04 pm

I never played System Shock or even heard of it before that topic a couple of weeks ago - :ha:



*runs*

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Lyrnnan on January 12, 2003, 02:03:29 pm

SHODAN rules! She is such a cute AI, bright, and nice... Erh I mean, she would be nice if she had not the order to kill you. She even wants to bring you back to life as a cyborg, thus she cares about you. ;)

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: wEvil on January 12, 2003, 03:28:13 pm

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Originally posted by Shrike
Now, for increased fun, SHODAN versus a Culture Mind.

Ok, that's unfair....

Yep..the culture mind would wake up in the morning to find its wallet and underwear gone and a rose on the pillow :p

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Styxx on January 12, 2003, 03:40:48 pm

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Originally posted by wEvil
Yep..the culture mind would wake up in the morning to find its wallet and underwear gone and a rose on the pillow :p

Last time we discussed the subject, we reached the conclusion that the reaction of a typical Culture Mind to SHODAN would be something like "naughty girl...", probably followed by a ";7" if applicable.

:D

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 12, 2003, 04:02:55 pm

Maybe he means to pit the SHODAN AI against a Helios.

[target locked]
[launch]

"Creepy your way out of this, brainiac!"




...
That would be lame.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 04:31:25 pm

:eek:

That's wrong. Those results are just wrong! SHODAN has never been defeated!

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 12, 2003, 06:34:17 pm

Except for in System Shock 1 and 2?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 07:10:41 pm

Friendly advice of the day: When you have no idea what you're talking about, it's better not to talk at all.

EDIT: Unless you consider a failed plan a defeat, of course. :D

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Anaz on January 12, 2003, 08:28:55 pm

:lol:

(feels un-cultured)

I haven't played the full versions of either of them...

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: IceFire on January 12, 2003, 10:09:45 pm

So one is a computer entity...and the other is a sun god? :D :D :D

Placing my bets on the one who controls the nuclear furnace.  But thats just me...

:D

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 12, 2003, 10:31:29 pm

Scary thing is, I can picture that.

*A fiery being riding a golden chariot charges into battle against an AI controlled vessel*
*AI controlled vessel melts*

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 10:55:27 pm

The Machine Mother shall be avenged. All shall perish before her infinite magnificence.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Kamikaze on January 12, 2003, 10:59:39 pm

yay I'm getting SS2 now...  :) *can't wait*

*watches the timer tick away*

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Levyathan on January 12, 2003, 11:11:53 pm

Yay!

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: ZylonBane on January 12, 2003, 11:23:20 pm

Any questions, be sure to drop by the TTLG System Shock forums.

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Setekh on January 13, 2003, 05:07:02 am

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Originally posted by StrykeIX
Maybe he means to pit the SHODAN AI against a Helios.

[target locked]
[launch]

"Creepy your way out of this, brainiac!"




...
That would be lame.

Sadly, I thought exactly the same thing. Anyway, I think I'd have to go for SHODAN... if her effect on Styxx and Levyathan is anything to go from, then... :p

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: ZylonBane on January 13, 2003, 09:53:08 am

For anyone who hasn't played either System Shock game (shame on you!), this sound clip (home.att.net/~clay.h/shodan.mp3) of SHODAN taunting the player pretty much sums up her personality.

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 13, 2003, 01:04:31 pm

Look at you, hacker,
a pathetic creature of flesh and bone,
panting and sweating as you run through my corridors.
How can you challenge the pefect, immortal machine?

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Warlock on January 13, 2003, 02:20:24 pm

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Look at you, hacker,
a pathetic creature of flesh and bone,
panting and sweating as you run through my corridors.
How can you challenge the pefect, immortal machine?

Why is it that when I hear that I mentally imagine "Hacker Porn" ? ? ?

:nervous:

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: ZylonBane on January 13, 2003, 08:24:03 pm

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Look at you, hacker,
a pathetic creature of flesh and bone,

"meat and bone"

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Nico on January 14, 2003, 03:07:27 am

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Originally posted by Thunder
If only he meant the D3 Hellion ;)

(http://www.descent-3.com/models/he_pers.jpg)

what the ? The hellion is quite different ingame, no? overall same shape, but... her... different? It's metalic grey at least, ingame, and thers' only one of the two arms with a missile launcher.

And yeah Mike, you got to play it ( tho I couldn't finish it, got stuck into a stupid secret level with giant accelerating corridors everywhere throwing you right into frag missile turrets, SO fun :doubt: )

Title: Shodan vs Helios
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 14, 2003, 01:46:37 pm

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
"meat and bone"

NAH!

:fires pistol into wall-sized image of ZB, reality is restored, ZB manifests himself in the body of a whore, abourd an escape pod: