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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 17, 2003, 02:20:07 pm
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Just thought you'd all like to know that I've just got a 128meg DDR Radeon 9000 Pro, with DVI and TV-Out. I got over 8000 in 3DMark, and thats BEFORE I updated the drivers.
Now I can't play Op Flashpoint without my jaw going through the floor.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Just thought you'd all like to know that I've just got a 128meg DDR Radeon 9000 Pro, with DVI and TV-Out. I got over 8000 in 3DMark, and thats BEFORE I updated the drivers.
Now I can't play Op Flashpoint without my jaw going through the floor.
pics please...
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What do you think I am? someone with a decent web-host? PAH!
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So find one. :rolleyes: Its not like the web isn't crawling with them...
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
What do you think I am? someone with a decent web-host? PAH!
ISPs generally give you some web space, check with yours.
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I think my new GF4 Ti4200 actually beats that by a bit :p
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How dare you?
And as for webhosts. yes there are plenty, but few offer remote linkage, preventing me from post pics straight to the board.
Anyway, it isn't as if Flashpoint looks particulalry amazing, just a vast improvment on how it was before.
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What are you, an ubern00b? :p
Rename the file extention to .txt. Then just embed it normally. That, or actually do your own research. Just google "Free Web Space" and look for a site that reviews em. Read the reviews and pick whichever one you want.
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I can't be bothered with that. anyway, i think I now have ftp access to TVWar, so I could use that....:nervous:
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
How dare you?
And as for webhosts. yes there are plenty, but few offer remote linkage, preventing me from post pics straight to the board.
Anyway, it isn't as if Flashpoint looks particulalry amazing, just a vast improvment on how it was before.
Actually, the Radeon 9000 is one of the 4 vid cards I was looking at: GeForce 3 Ti200, GeForce 4 Ti4200, Radeon 8500LE, and Radeon 9000.
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Go with the GF4 Ti4200. The Radeon 9000 is just a redressed 8500.
That being said, ATi is in some deep ****! http://www.descentbb.net/ubb/Forum20/HTML/003203.html
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:lol:
I already did get the Ti4200 :p
It's sitting in my new case, waiting for my old drives :)
And actually, in tests, the 8500 scores a bit above the 9000.
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That may be true, but essentially it is an 8500, minus a few features which explains the performance drop.
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well what about the Pro version, that I've got? How's that?
I got 8500 in 3DMark, which seems quite good to me.
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Booyah!
Me too have a new video card ( well, just ordered it actually ).
I wanted a radeon 9500 pro, but the 9700 had better results in all the benchmarks and was, surprisingly enough, cheaper :p
waiting for the beast now...
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Originally posted by venom2506
surprisingly enough, cheaper
WTF?
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
WTF?
that's a good question. I'm in France, so it doesn't mean the 9700 was less expensive, and probably the 9500 pro was really TOO expensive.
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After reading some Reviews of the new nVIDIA parade horse and also reading some posts over at the NV News Forums I am really happy I have a Radeon 9700 Pro.
I don't know what nVIDIA was thinking but this GeForce FX AKA the big Radeon 9700 killer is getting ***** slapped all over the place.
I also heard an mp3 of the noice this FX is generating with that vacuum cleaner on top of it and it's really anoying as hell.
nVIDIA used to deliver top notch products but my guess is that the hot breath in their necks from ATI made them make a few horrible mistakes with rushing the product to the consumers.
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Originally posted by DSA-Gabriel
After reading some Reviews of the new nVIDIA parade horse and also reading some posts over at the NV News Forums I am really happy I have a Radeon 9700 Pro.
I don't know what nVIDIA was thinking but this GeForce FX AKA the big Radeon 9700 killer is getting ***** slapped all over the place.
I also heard an mp3 of the noice this FX is generating with that vacuum cleaner on top of it and it's really anoying as hell.
nVIDIA used to deliver top notch products but my guess is that the hot breath in their necks from ATI made them make a few horrible mistakes with rushing the product to the consumers.
hem...
(http://www.nofrag.com/screenshots/actualite/2003-01-27_bdfx.jpg)
translation (yellow boxes ):
1) GeForce FX: for 399$, a powerful, strong and multipurpose 3D card!!
2)caccuum-cleaning, a bore?
3)GeForce FX!
4)recalcitrant dirt?
5) Karcher compatible!
6)works for PC too!!
ok, it's silly, but that resumes well what I've read everywhere:
the FX is really disapointing, and the fan makes so much noise it's incredible. to top it all, the vacuum-cleaner blocks access to other PCI slots :p
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I'm a bit disappointed too. Guess I will look for R350 instead.
That is if nVidia, or the hardware vendors, don't pull some sort of rabbit out of the hat. The thing that really got me was the noise level :blah:
EDIT:
This post at [H] Forums make a good point (1st post):
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=560514
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Wow. That's.... pathetic.
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Originally posted by Ryx
This post at [H] Forums make a good point (1st post):
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=560514
what's the good point? Ok the guy plays good lord, and wants to defend the thing. OK, fine. Now I'd answer:
why giving a second chance? for cheaper you have a 9700 that doesn't make any noise, doesn't take a PCI slot, runs about as fast. what's here to argue about?. Many people, for some reason, seems to dislike ATI. I guess the guy loved his old GeForce, period.
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This in particular:
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But after really thinking about it, did the FX really get smoked? In all of the benchmarks, neither the FX nor the 9700 Pro leapfrog each other. Is NVDA going under? Ha, a gross overstatement made by n00bs (why are there so many people who registered this week? Anyone else see this?).
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Perhaps more an "eye of the beholder thing", but the FX did essentially tie with the R300, which is the point from my POV.
Then there's the noise ( :ick ) and the IQ. The PCI is a non-issue for me, as the PCI slots are placed quite a bit away from the AGP slot on my mobo.
I'm looking to upgrade soon, and I want the FX to do well, so I have more to choose from. I read in Tom's review, that the vendor could change stuff as they pleased, and want to see what they do. These boards will probably not be out before March. Hopefully ATI will launch the R350 in March, as well. Also, if prices goes down a little while I wait isn't going to hurt anybody. :)
Urge to upgrade: Rising :shaking:
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Just thought you'd all like to know that I've just got a 128meg DDR Radeon 9000 Pro, with DVI and TV-Out. I got over 8000 in 3DMark, and thats BEFORE I updated the drivers.
Now I can't play Op Flashpoint without my jaw going through the floor.
I got the 9000 version also. Doesn't really improve fs2 in my opinion, but it sure makes UT2k2 look awesome in all the highest resolutions, detail, and maximum players.
EDIT: I really want the 9700 though...
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Originally posted by Ryx
This in particular:
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But after really thinking about it, did the FX really get smoked? In all of the benchmarks, neither the FX nor the 9700 Pro leapfrog each other. Is NVDA going under? Ha, a gross overstatement made by n00bs (why are there so many people who registered this week? Anyone else see this?).
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Perhaps more an "eye of the beholder thing", but the FX did essentially tie with the R300, which is the point from my POV.
Then there's the noise ( :ick ) and the IQ. The PCI is a non-issue for me, as the PCI slots are placed quite a bit away from the AGP slot on my mobo.
I'm looking to upgrade soon, and I want the FX to do well, so I have more to choose from. I read in Tom's review, that the vendor could change stuff as they pleased, and want to see what they do. These boards will probably not be out before March. Hopefully ATI will launch the R350 in March, as well. Also, if prices goes down a little while I wait isn't going to hurt anybody. :)
Urge to upgrade: Rising :shaking:
well, by the look of it, it's anything save the FX right? why bothering with the pbs if the best thing that the FX has is a tie?
I'm happy to wait for my 9700 ;)
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Umm....its still in BETA. The thing is running on beta hardware and beta drivers. Are you honesty going to expect that thing to perform flawlessly? Lets get real people.
Secondly, the airflow system is actually a good thing since it greatly reduces the heat introduced into the case. It blows the hot air produced by the GPU out of the case where it belongs. Also, it only takes up a single PCI slot (slot 1) which is shared with the AGP bus anyways so putting another card there would be asking for IRQ trouble.
Lastly, there is a company that has gotten the noise down to 7dB (which is far better on the ears than 70. :D). However, if you're REALLY going to be a nazi about it....watercool the damn thing! ;7
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Well, I have been reading the preliminary reviews on the FX, and it actually seems to perform slower than the 9700 in most cases; it has a good lead in the synthetic benchmarks but falls short in games. Granted, some consideration has to be made for the state of the drivers, but the thing is that the R9700 Pro has been out for quite some time now.
I couldn't care less about the noise or the PCI slot, as I am used to a good 220db and have four open slots that I don't plan to use otherwise. It really depends on what the retail prices come out as and how much new drivers improve performance. I would also be interested in seeing how this upcoming R350 processor performs.
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FX seems to perform well, but the noise...
The difference between it and Radeon 9700PRO isn't huge, though I guess better drivers will make it bigger.
*Is happy to have a R9700PRO*
Originally posted by CP5670
I couldn't care less about the noise or the PCI slot, as I am used to a good 220db...
Uh, sure.
Except that you'd be dead in that noise. That's like few times louder than a rocket's launch. :p