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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Carl on January 22, 2003, 01:41:42 pm
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753 BC: Roma (Rome) is founded by Romulus
750 BC: Greeks establish a colony at Cuma
750 BC: first Etruscan inscriptions
616 BC: Tarquinius I becomes an Etruscan king of Rome
600 BC: Etruscans build the colossal tombs of Cerveteri
600 BC: the Forum is built
600 BC: oldest Latin inscriptions
550 BC: Servius Tullius builds city walls
474 BC: the Greeks defeat the Etruscans at Cuma
509 BC: the last king is expelled and Rome becomes a republic
450 BC: the Twelve Tables of the Roman law
396 BC: Rome conquers the Etruscan city of Veii
390 BC: the Gauls sack Rome
326 BC: the Circus Maximus
312 BC: the Via Appia is opened
308 BC: Rome conquers the Etruscan city of Tarquinia
287 BC: the Lex Hortensia makes plebiscites binding
280 BC: Rome issues coins
275 BC: Rome conquers southern Italy (Greek colonies)
264 BC: Rome and Carthage fight the first Punic war
264 BC: the Romans destroy the last vestiges of the Etruscan civilization (Volsinies)
222 BC: the Gauls are defeated
221 BC: the Circus Flaminius
218 BC: Hannibal invades Italy
214 BC: war machines designed by Greek mathematician Archimedes save the city of Syracuse, an ally of Carthage, from a Roman naval attack
202 BC: Scipio defeats Hannibal and Rome annexes Spain
196 BC: the Romans defeat the Macedonian king Philip V at Cynoscephalae
189 BC: Antiochus III, king of the Seleucids, is defeated at the battle of Magnesia
184 BC: the Basilica Porcia
146 BC: Rome destroys Carthage
146 BC: Rome conquers Greece with the battle of Corinth
133 BC: Attalus III of Pergamum wills his kingdom to Rome and the whole Mediterranean Sea is under Roman control ("mare nostrum")
83 BC: Sulla becomes dictator
74 BC: Cicero enters the senate
73 BC: Spartacus leads the revolt of the gladiators
64 BC: Syria becomes a Roman province
63 BC: Pompeus captures Jerusalem and annexes Palestine to Rome
53 BC: in the first war against Persia, Crassus is defeated by the Parthians at Carrhae (Syria)
51 BC: Caesar crushes revolt of Vercingetorix in Gaul
49 BC: Ceasar becomes dictator
47 BC: Ceasar invades Egypt and appoints Cleopatra queen
44 BC: Ceasar is killed.
31 BC: Octavianus (Augustus) becomes the first emperor
30 BC: Cleopatra commits suicide and Egypt is annexed to Rome
20 BC: a treaty between Rome and Persia (Parthians) fixes the boundary between the two empires along the Euphrates river (Iraq)
17 BC: the theater of Marcellus
13 BC: Augustus expands the borders to the region of the Danube
6 BC: Jesus is born in Palestine
2 AD: the Forum of Augustus
5 AD: Rome acknowledges Cymbeline, King of the Catuvellauni, as king of Britain
6 AD: Augustus expands the borders to the Balkans
12 AD: The last Etruscan inscription is carved
14 AD: Augustus dies and Tiberius becomes emperor
14 AD: five million people live in the Roman empire
25 AD: Agrippa builds the Pantheon
37 AD: Tiberius dies and the mad Caligula succeeds him
41 AD: Caligula is assassinated and is succeeded by Claudius
43 AD: Claudius invades Britain
46 AD: Thracia becomes a Roman province
50 AD: the Romans found Londinium in Britain
54 AD: Claudius is succeeded by Nero
58 AD: the Romans conquer Armenia
64 AD: Nero sets fire to Rome and blames the Christians for it
68 AD: Nero commits suicide and is succeeded by Vespasianus
79 AD: Vespasianus is succeeded by Tito
70 AD: Tito destroys Jerusalem and Jews spread in Armenia, Iraq, Iran, Arabia, Egypt, Italy, Spain and Greece
77 AD: the Romans conquer Wales
79 AD: the Vesuvius erupts and Pompeii is buried under ash
79 AD: the Colosseum
80 AD: the Romans invade Caledonia (Scotland)
84 AD: British rebels are defeated by the Romans at the battle of Mons Graupius
98 AD: Trajan becomes emperor
106: Trajan defeats Dacia that becomes a Roman province
106: Trajan captures the Nabataean capital Petra (Jordan) and turns Nabataea into the province of Arabia
112: the Forum of Trajanus
113: Colonna Traiana
116: Trajan conquers Mesopotamia and the Parthian capital Ctesiphon
117: Trajan dies on his way to the Persian Gulf and Hadrian becomes emperor
122: Hadrian's Wall is built along the northern frontier to protect from the Barbarians
132: Jews, led by Bar-Cochba, whom some identify as the Messiah, revolt against Rome
134: Villa Hadriana
136: emperor Hadrian definitely crushes the Jewish resistance, forbids Jews from ever entering Jerusalem, and changes the name of the city to Aelia Capitolina
138: Hadrian is succeeded by Antoninus Pius, who repels Hadrian's anti-Jewish laws
139: Hadrian's mausoleum (Castel Sant'Angelo)
161: Marcus Aurelius becomes Roman emperor
164: the plague spreads throughout the Roman empire
212: Caracalla grants Roman citizenship on all free people who live in the Roman Empire
214: Caracalla murders King Abgar IX of Edessa and declares Edessa a Roman colony
216: the thermae of Caracalla
217: Caracalla is murdered in Edessa
218: Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, the last of the Antonines, becomes emperor and promoties the cult of Elegabalus, a Syriac sun god
244: Shapur I becomes king of the Sassanids and attacks Rome
250: emperor Decius orders the first emperor-wide persecution of Christians
260: the Sassanid king Shapur I defeats the Romans
284: Diocletian becomes emperor but rules from Nicomedia in the East
298: Rome captures Nisibis and the Sassanids sign a peace treaty with Rome
300: the population of the Roman Empire is 60 million (about 15 million Christians)
303: Diocletian orders a general persecution of the Christians
303: the thermae of Diocletian
312: Constantine becomes emperor
313: Constantine ends the persecution of the Christians (edict of Milan)
313: Constantine recognizes the Christian church
330: Constantine I builds a new city, Constantinople (Byzantium)
334: Constantine I appoints a young senator to be his heir, who changes his name to Julius
337: Constantine I dies. Julius becomes new emperor
339: Julius appoints an emperor to every provence to govern them as sub-states. the terbulance of the Empire begins to calm.
360: General Julian (the "apostate") defeats an invasion of Barbarians
363: an earthquake destroys Petra
371: the roman army recieves renewed support. soldiers are better trained and supplied
374: the Visigoths are defeated at Hadrianopolis
382: Olympic Games are shut down along with the temple of Zeus at Olympia
408: the Visigoths are defeated
422: Rome conquers Britannia
452: Rome fights back the Huns
455: the Vandals are defeated near Rome
527: general Belisarius destroys the Arian kingdom of the Vandals and reconquers Spain and northern Africa
538: Palemaeus the great becomes emporer, starts expansion to the north
542: the plague decimates the Empire
564: Rome conquers persia
584: Palemaeus dies. Palemaeus II becomes Emperor
592: the arabs are defeated
720: Jeruselum recaptured from arabs
773: Rome conquers Holand
832: the bulgars are defeated
866: Rome conquers Norway
901: Anotolia is conquered
912: the Empire takes all of Europe
1022: Rome invades China
1036: Rome loses much of it's army, but manages to take western China
1048: Chinese rebel, take back north of Roman China
1050: Rome takes back northern China as well as most of eastern China
1062: Rome takes all of China
1104: China is spit into three provinces: Persia Nova, Palemea, and Eastern China
1192: Rome conquers Mongols
1233: Norway and Sweden unite as one province: Norseland
1248: Rome takes Africa
1276: sailors land at new world after being swept off course by a storm
1278: new Island colonized and named Norseland Nova
1305: further exploration discovers two new continents filled with barbarians named Nova Britannia Major and Nova Brittania Minor
1364: firearm invented
1366: firearms issued to all roman soldiers
1420: Roman Army conquers Catawahs
1427: Roman Army conquers Powhatans
1441: Roman Army conquers Pennacook and Pocumtuk tribes
1511: 1 milllion roman citizens inhabit Nova Brittania Major east coast
1578: expansion stops at mountain range named Hannabalis
1620: empire expands to river in the middle of N.B.Major named Tiber Maximus
1630: souix nation conquered
1671: light bulb invented
1686: petroleum engine invented
1699: new roman laws written allowing morew personal freedoms including a slavery ban
1702: telegraph invented. empire spands all of N.B.Major
1749: horseless carrage invented
1767: radio invented
1782: telephone invented
1804: airplane invented
1823: machine gun invented. both new continents completely under roman rule
1831: electronic computer invented
1833: television invented
1836: first space probe lunched
1843: entire world under roman rule
1854: manned mission to the Moon successful
1862: atomic fission bomb tested in the desert of the remote island-continent of Clopedus
1865: thermonuclear fusion bomb tested in Clopedus
1870: fission plants open amoung citizen fears
1881: widespread use of miniturized electronics
1902: the world population is 7 billion
1912: most industry completely automated. job demand goes down along with cost of living
1907: most foods genetically engineered
1928: nuclear fusion plants open. world power demand ceases
1929: holographic communication commonplace
1931: manned mission to mars successful
1934: cure for cancer discovered
1937: Colloseum Maximus built standing 1/2 kilometer, seating one hundred thousand
1939: roman army contains 4 million men and women
1941: energy based weapons issued to all roman soldiers
1944: protein synthesis invented
1947: all industry and services automated. all plebians become patricians
1953: colinization of Mars underway
1964: population of Mars is one hundred thousand
1970: 10% of mars terraformmed
1974: buckytube armor issued to all roman soldiers
1985: interstellar exploration begins. missionary I lunched to Proxima Centari
1987: population of earth is 25 billion
1989: the two kilometer long Emperor's Palace space station is built orbiting earth
1991: fleet of two hundred starships serve as the Roman Interplanetary Navy
1994: average human lifespan is 140 years
1995: neural interface commonplace. missionary I reaches proxima centari
1996: half of roman army is made up of androids
1997: average roman citizen is better off than the emperor was one hundred years ago
1998: medicine has wiped out 95% of the deseases that were around one hundred year ago
1999: antimatter powers 99% of the empire. mars population is one billion
2000: Nova Collosus is built on mars. standing five kilometers high, it can be seen from space. the earth is dedesertificated
2001: 95% of citizens consider the empire a utopia. 20% of mars is terraformmed
2002: terranopolis, the largest city in the empire, is created from the merging of six other cities in N.B Minor. it spands six hundred kilometers
2003: Present
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Sounds familiar ;)
As I pointed out on Warpstorm, add about 200 years between
1630: souix nation conquered
and
1671: light bulb invented
...then i might believe you.
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what is it about?
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Constantine gives power to a senator instead of his sons, and this is what happens.
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yeah, yeah, I'm not completely illiterate, I meant, does this comes from something specific? ;)
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Originally posted by Carl
1671: light bulb invented
1752: lightbulb invented
:p
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Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, yeah, I'm not completely illiterate, I meant, does this comes from something specific? ;)
Yeah... I, uhhh, don't understand... :blah:
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i just made it up.
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Originally posted by Carl
Constantine gives power to a senator instead of his sons, and this is what happens.
I always wanted to live in rome..
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****, when did this happen?
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My complaint:
If the world is conquered, fission reactors would have come first and then fission weaponry would have come second as a byproduct.
You don't need a nuclear bomb to quell a provincial uprising.
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Yeah. If the entire planet is under peaceful Roman rule, then why are new energy weapons and weapons of mass destruction being developed?
Otherwise, pretty cool.
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GE: You obviously don't know what the Romans were like. There's no such thing as a "peaceful" Roman rule.;)
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yeah id prefered too if the medival ages times whatever wouldnt have happened
:D
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Originally posted by 01010
****, when did this happen?
Well it happened yesterday, I heard it's going on today, and it'll still be here sometime tommarow..
Or so they say.
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Originally posted by Fetty
yeah id prefered too if the medival ages times whatever wouldnt have happened
:D
not me.
Btw, did anybody ever played Renegade Legions? :p There was even a space sim made out of it.
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Originally posted by Carl
i just made it up.
And in the art forum because? :p
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Fine, so it's in the art forum for reasons only the Shivans know. :nervous:
But what happens to Christianity? Does Rome become Christian or does it stay pagan?
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welll by 2003 mars colonized 20% terraformed fleet of 200 starships 2 spacestations NOT friking bad.....IF IF there was 1 country instead of a lot we would allready have colonized the moon by now BUT NOO everyone just has to fight everyone ealse
humans suck.....
nu ani anqueitas .... hic qua videum.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
welll by 2003 mars colonized 20% terraformed fleet of 200 starships 2 spacestations NOT friking bad.....IF IF there was 1 country instead of a lot we would allready have colonized the moon by now BUT NOO everyone just has to fight everyone ealse
humans suck.....
nu ani anqueitas .... hic qua videum.
Except that space travel was explored in the first place because it was a development platform for military applications, specifically ICBM and potential orbital weaponry. Even if your society is militaristic, if you control the whole surface of the planet you don't really need either. That's my only fault with this timeline, too much technological development without motivating factors. Any conflict you can come up with to bring about some of the changes, especially the military changes, would help a lot.
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Btw, contrary to common belief, Middle Age did see a lot of technological improvements ( weaponary, architecture, mechanics, maths, etc etc ). Getting rid of it won't makes things go faster.
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Who cares? The image of a trebuchet-launched space shuttle is just too good.:D
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Originally posted by StrykeIX
Who cares? The image of a trebuchet-launched space shuttle is just too good.:D
who needs the shuttle? :D launch the astronauts that way :lol:
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...somebody has been playing civilization too much... :p
I always did find it amusing how the Aztecs invented atomic fusion, conquered the world and populated Alpha Centuri.
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hey...at least give me credit if you quote me BP :p
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I Liek Harry Turtledove! :nervous:
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The question you're all asking: Why develop all those weapons if Rome controls the world?
The answer: To stay that way!
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Originally posted by Carl
The question you're all asking: Why develop all those weapons if Rome controls the world?
The answer: To stay that way!
That doesn't answer my question. Does Rome become Christian or does it crush Christianity and remain pagan?
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The only people who should be named "Harry" are porn stars. Same goes for "Dick". And "Wang". And "Alphonse".
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I have a dog named Harry :shaking:
On a related note to this Carl, I was watching this docu on a guy called Heron of Alexandria - apparently he built the worlds first steam propelled rotator over 2000 years ago - it was only a half step away from being a full steam engine (particularly given that they guy already knew a fair bit about pistons and such) and it was the fastest rotating object in the ancient world. People have built working models to prove that it could have worked, and nobody is quite sure why he never made the final half step and built a actual steam engine. Given the profound effect that the steam engine had on society (The Industrial Revolution, which effectively shaped modern society), something like this was very, very close.
That said, the human race has learned a lot that it quite possibly wouldn't have - if, for example, Heron had built his steam engine and ushered in an IR, then people would have been even more cramed together when the Black Plague struck from Asia. Or we could be going to Mars without even the faintest concept of what really caused disease and how to treat it (Bacteria were discovered with complex optics that we have no evidence that the classical world really comprehended, and Antibiotics entirely by accident, something which may never have happened except in the precise set of conditions that we actually had)
[q]Originally posted by Venom2506
Btw, contrary to common belief, Middle Age did see a lot of technological improvements ( weaponary, architecture, mechanics, maths, etc etc ). Getting rid of it won't makes things go faster.[/q]
Not quite true. A lot of that was simply relearning what the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians already knew. Most of that knowledge was simply lost when the library of Alexandria burnt down, and when the church started burning scientific documents (and scientists) as heretical. If it hadn't been for the collapse of Rome and the subsequent dark ages, we would be significantly further along than we are now.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Not quite true. A lot of that was simply relearning what the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians already knew. Most of that knowledge was simply lost when the library of Alexandria burnt down, and when the church started burning scientific documents (and scientists) as heretical. If it hadn't been for the collapse of Rome and the subsequent dark ages, we would be significantly further along than we are now.
Well, that is arguable. Technological development probably would have stagnated anyway, as the geo-political restructuring of Europe (and some Christian thought believe it or not) was really necessary for post-Renaissance(sp?) thought and the Scientific revolution to come about. The developments made by the Romans were actually not that significant, they had a way of copying from other cultures rather than invent things for themselves, so I really think that they would have ceased technological progress once they achieved secure hegemony over probably Europe, maybe a little into Aisa. And besides, all the big breakthroughs came from the Greeks, and they had fallen from prominence on the global stage before Rome ever even became a significant Mediterranian power. It really is impossible to do a "what if" scenario that takes all variables into account, but you can't just say that we would have reached the same point in technology sooner had the dark ages not occured.
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Originally posted by StratComm
Well, that is arguable. Technological development probably would have stagnated anyway, as the geo-political restructuring of Europe (and some Christian thought believe it or not) was really necessary for post-Renaissance(sp?) thought and the Scientific revolution to come about. The developments made by the Romans were actually not that significant, they had a way of copying from other cultures rather than invent things for themselves, so I really think that they would have ceased technological progress once they achieved secure hegemony over probably Europe, maybe a little into Aisa. And besides, all the big breakthroughs came from the Greeks, and they had fallen from prominence on the global stage before Rome ever even became a significant Mediterranian power. It really is impossible to do a "what if" scenario that takes all variables into account, but you can't just say that we would have reached the same point in technology sooner had the dark ages not occured.
Well, yeah, the Romans did tend to copycat lot, but the Greeks and Egyptians didn't (even though the egyptians already long since stagnated by the time the Roman influence began) - between them and the collective minds of the rest of the Roman empire, things would have gone far. Note that under roman rule, the Greeks were able to essentially combine the Roman and Greek cultures, meaning most of the Greeks abilities remained there - some even grew a bit.
I'm not saying they would have just skipped the milenium or two in the middle, but we would have far more advanced technology by now - perhaps not the same advanced tech, but it would be more. There's practically no question when you take into account the sheer volume of knowledge that was lost, and then not allowed to be regained by the church during the dark and middle ages.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Not quite true. A lot of that was simply relearning what the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians already knew. Most of that knowledge was simply lost when the library of Alexandria burnt down, and when the church started burning scientific documents (and scientists) as heretical. If it hadn't been for the collapse of Rome and the subsequent dark ages, we would be significantly further along than we are now.
ah... oh well, I know I'm right, but I don't feel like argueing, sorry :p
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if there was no technological advancement in the middle ages, then Age of Kings wouldn't have been a very fun game.