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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2001, 10:55:00 am: Firing rapid fire dumbfires....

pointless, great, or just plain stupid?

(oh, and it's on the rear, much the same as jonskowitz's A-36 (?) bomber)

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Darkage on October 04, 2001, 11:26:00 am: i did that whit a Medusa and it was a overkill...Absolutly not good balanced heck i could kill the entire shivan armada whit it whit out fireing my missile's or lasers.
i say ditch it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Red5 on October 04, 2001, 01:13:00 pm: Possibly make a custom missle that had either slow refire rate or very low damage.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 04, 2001, 04:00:00 pm: Good. But only if you make everything else tough as hell, too.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2001, 04:47:00 pm: Well, it'll definately have a turret... Raven has finished the Raptor cannon, which is basically a rapid-fire gatling laser thing, so it might use that.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: delta_7890 on October 04, 2001, 05:57:00 pm: hmm, a gatling cannon. good idea, i'd use it, if I still had FS2 on my comp (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) I can't fit both SC and FS2 until I get a new computer.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Mad Bomber on October 04, 2001, 06:10:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14:
Raven has finished the Raptor cannon.

I was going to call one of the guns in my campaigns the Raptor at one point. But i think my gun sounds better as the Syrinx (its current name). (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 04, 2001, 06:49:00 pm: *cough* **cough**
Did someone say "Gatling Cannon"?

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Warlock on October 04, 2001, 08:08:00 pm: LOL Well we now know how's new (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Kids the Gatlin Laser is WAY OLD school....I DLed it ummm...a year and a half ago and got the Ok to use it in GOTP (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

If I dig around the bowels of my two HDs I might find the orginal zip for info if yall want it...it was on VW back then.

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 04, 2001, 08:25:00 pm: well (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) to you too (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Warlock on October 04, 2001, 08:43:00 pm: LOL

Just keep in mind,..before ya decide to make a MOD,...check around and see if it's been done already (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I mean...why have 25 of the same MOD?Right?

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: DragonClaw on October 04, 2001, 09:09:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by jonskowitz:
(http://www.homestead.com/jskgames/files/F44ranger.jpg)

Ok that thing needs some SERIOUS anti-aliasing...

as the saying goes: Anti-Aliasing is A-1 Supar!

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Neon on October 05, 2001, 06:14:00 am: And Bump Mapping (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Setekh on October 05, 2001, 08:47:00 am: Aww c'mon guys, give him a break. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Anyway, as for the missile thing - well, play around with it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) See if there's anything cool you can do with it. Like EMP.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Kitsune on October 05, 2001, 03:40:00 pm: Well, for more firepower, how about turrets that only have an fov to fire directly in front of the ship to suppliment the regular payload? As if there was a copilot handling things too.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on October 05, 2001, 06:46:00 pm: ya see hes including it in a MOD - its not a complete MOD - I have a automatic slug launcher (slug = model of course) it does low damage but fits into the storyline.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 05, 2001, 08:05:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14:
Firing rapid fire dumbfires....

Firing rapid fire dumbfires!
Firing rapid fire dumbfires!
Firing rapid fire dumbfires!
Firing rapid fire dumbfires!
Firing fapid dire fumbfires!

And trust me- ANY skin is a good thing with jonskowitz's conversion- I just finished testing it, my poor eyes...
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 05, 2001, 08:19:00 pm: sorry dude... the next demo build will have skinned fighters, I promise. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

In the meantime I'd recommend avoiding direct sunlight for a bit while your eyes readjust. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 05, 2001, 09:03:00 pm: Basically. That and maybe you shouldn't get killed from ONE missile hit (or at least make the Chinese missiles less than 100% accurate) Other than that and a few minor issues, good conv, nice ships, etc.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 05, 2001, 09:09:00 pm: Oh, and MAKE FRIGGIN SUBSPACE WORK!!! Or at least redalert the missions when the objectives are complete.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 05, 2001, 10:30:00 pm: But subspace DOES work, it's just that ship's bleed off speed relatively slowly. What I do is chop the throttle to zero after I'm done and wait for the speed to drop to around 50, then I hit subspace.

*sigh* It's a shame that there's no other way to end a mission besides RA and jumping. RA isn't really an option since it doesn't give you your mission debreifing.
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 05, 2001, 10:33:00 pm: ...and I WANT missile hits to be friggin' lethal. Forces you to use different tactics and flying techniques than you would for FS. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Besides, Chinese missiles aren't all that good. You can find a way around them, trust me. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Setekh on October 07, 2001, 02:07:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by jonskowitz:
...and I WANT missile hits to be friggin' lethal. Forces you to use different tactics and flying techniques than you would for FS. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Hell yeah! Reminds me of Playing Judas, how Rama wing finds you just before you're allowed to jump out. I knew I'd be toast if any of those missile caught me, and try as I might, I just couldn't make my ship shake the annoying way the AI does. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 07, 2001, 11:59:00 am: Hmph. 12 countermeasures and a (literally) unmaneuverable ship are not conducive to missile evasion. Those things make Ursas look good- aspect missile heaven. The countermeasures I never learned to use effectively anyhow, but I should be able to dodge the damn things until they run out of range!
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Kitsune on October 07, 2001, 03:04:00 pm: I've never had any issues with beating 'playing judas'.

In fact After scanning everything I managed to destroy one of the cain's and a freighter.

Of course, I failed the mission because I was discovered.

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 07, 2001, 05:42:00 pm: If you can't use countermeasures then you = dead (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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...but I should be able to dodge the damn things until they run out of range!

Does it seem reasonable to you that a 30 ton fighter should be capable of out-maneuvering a 700 pound missile that was (I might add) specifically designed to destroy that kind of ship? If you can't use CMs correctly then maybe you should practice using them until you become proficient with them instead of complaining whenever you get slain. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 07, 2001, 06:05:00 pm: Yes, actually. I've got the brains and the afterburners. But that's beside the point. Say you use one CM per missile (I use between 2 and 5, and I suspect I'm not alone here, at least at the low end). That's 12 missiles you can ideally dodge. Which comes to maybe half of what is thrown at you in some of those "training missions".
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: jonskowitz on October 07, 2001, 06:31:00 pm: That's technically true... and at the same time not. When the computef fires on you they launch in droves, so you're technically dodging two or three missiles at a time.

But since outflying the things isn't an option I think I will increase CM payload. (that's why we playtest things (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)) Thanks for the input Stryke.

BTW- try dodging missiles in an A-36... no AB (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Red5 on October 08, 2001, 07:03:00 pm: Ok since i am reverred as a sci fi guru~! ill share some cool missle ideas for everyonees campaign, just give me credits dawgs! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Poison Missle-Uses poison to poison your target!

Magic Missle-Made of magice, magically attacks your enemies!
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Setekh on October 09, 2001, 03:42:00 am: ...
Title: Missile turret on a bomber?
Post by: Nico on October 09, 2001, 05:21:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Red5:
Ok since i am reverred as a sci fi guru~! ill share some cool missle ideas for everyonees campaign, just give me credits dawgs! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Poison Missle-Uses poison to poison your target!

Magic Missle-Made of magice, magically attacks your enemies!

stupidity plagued missile, turn yor enemy into R... hem, a stupid target!