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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 27, 2003, 01:48:58 pm
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At school they have many annoying utilities to stop you getting on any decent websites, OK fine. They have CyberPatrol, SuperScout, Websense, and some fourth one I can't remember. For a while it's just been like porn sites, any sites about games and such.
This was annoying in itself, as I, along with many others, are basing our GCSE Graphics final piece around a game of some sort. these systems amployed by the school make research damn near impossible.
Now, however, they have discovered that porn can be found on the goggle image search. AND THEY HAVE BLOCKED GOOGLE! Yes GOOGLE IS BLOCKED! US google, UK Google, even Canada google. However, the image search (images.google.com) isn't blocked, which prompts to question the competence of the head of IT. I know have to use either German or french google, which is annoying in the most.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Eh, I don't see why they gotta bother. Let the kids educate themselves about some subjects- the schools sure as **** ain't gonna.
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Exactly, and I've tried to erm... explain this to them. But do they listen? Do they buggery.
I used to be able to get round it via ctrl-alt-del, but they disabled that.
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They do buggery? Right in front of you? And they're STILL worried about some kid catching sight of a tit?
Wierd school.
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have they disabled running .exe's off of a disk or cd?
we got around our school security by loading security cracks onto disks and cds
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I agree, my college has blocked off the 3DAP Dynamic servers (but not 3DAP itself) so I can't access these forums from college... but I can access pretty much everything else.
They've carefully hidden the C:\ drive icon - of course a shortcut solves that instantly.
Idiots.
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Ugh. I've actually got a competent network admin at school, but that just means he doesn't **** up the computers to the point where they're not functional. Security STILL can be bypassed (for one thing, his Windows-based software can't detect the Linux box we had hidden and feeding off the T-1 link;) ), nad the computers are still only barely functional.
And the only real security problem the school ever had was some asshole ninth grader stealing the mouse balls. Which they have so far failed to solve.
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small city school => me understanding most about puters => me parttime admin => me dont have to go into puter classes :D
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lol, at our Uni they obviously made some poor sod go around all 3,000 computers in the LRC and glue the damn balls in.
Which means when they get caked in crap you can no longer clean them out.
*claps loudly* - i'd like to thank RM for managing to make PIII-900's function like 486's. I'd also like to thank the technical support division of University of Hertfordshire for their continual and total incompetence at tackling most problems that do crop up. Finally i'd like to take a big, fat dump on the university accounts department for misappropriation of funds.
Rot in hell, morons.
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Reminds me of my high school. Used to block off all access to the hard drives so you could only run items off the start menu or desktop icons. However, they left internet explorer on and a quick file:\\c:\ saw access to everything. Tried to point it out and got into a ****load of trouble for it.
So when I got the chance I formatted the ****er.
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Just hack it.
Of course they'll know someone's screwed around with the computers, but if your smart(like they are NOT), then all they can do is run around with their heads up their asses and whine 'cause their stupid. :nod:
So when I got the chance I formatted the ****er.
:yes:
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:doubt:
didn't even block porn sites at my school...
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Porn at my school works, 3dap however does not..
Neither do anything other of intrest. Porn would be doable, but every asshole who hasn't boned off their naked mother in the last 2 days has to get up and come look which is really irratating.
Same thing basically happens when the class can't figure out why a bunch of zero's are being typed on Word and I tell them they need to take their elbow off of the number pad.
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[q]Tried to point it out and got into a ****load of trouble for it.
So when I got the chance I formatted the ****er[/q]
Good thinking, thats the kinda stuff I used to do at High School. :D
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ooh BTW, speaking of high school...
I have a horrible english teacher right? Horrible as in we do nothing in class other than the occasional vocabulary assignment and we read a few chapters out of whatever book we are reading at the moment, no discussions about the book, going over grammer, writing styles, the books themselves.. it's bassically jerk off in class and read a chapter of to kill a mockingbird each night.
Teacher is a dumbass. She can't pronounce anything right and is lazy like nothing you beleive. Bassically without writing out a bunch of **** that none of you care about, I want to know a good way to get a bad teacher fired, without having to sleep with the principal.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
ooh BTW, speaking of high school...
I have a horrible english teacher right? Horrible as in we do nothing in class other than the occasional vocabulary assignment and we read a few chapters out of whatever book we are reading at the moment, no discussions about the book, going over grammer, writing styles, the books themselves.. it's bassically jerk off in class and read a chapter of to kill a mockingbird each night.
Teacher is a dumbass. She can't pronounce anything right and is lazy like nothing you beleive. Bassically without writing out a bunch of **** that none of you care about, I want to know a good way to get a bad teacher fired, without having to sleep with the principal. [/B]
No one does not have to sleep with the principle.... :ick
One merely informs ones parents of this situation (or other guardian like person, even a guidance teacher) and said English teach will get arse kicking. ;)
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well the thing is, my counselor is an even bigger of a twit.. and my mom.. is uh... yea. Lobster knows
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Much easier said than done; it has been my experience that, short of framing her for some sexual assault charge, it is damn near impossible to get someone out of a teaching position if they suck at it. Case in point: the last teacher fired for something other than sleeping with a student in my district went and opened fire at the assistant superintendant. Nutcase that one was, but a example nonetheless. We had a guidance councelor who SUCKED (ever seen Orange County :blah: ) and we couldn't even get rid of her after she failed to send some college application stuff off on time and wouldn't fix it. In short, you'd have to be shamed out of school to get a teacher out.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
well the thing is, my counselor is an even bigger of a twit.. and my mom.. is uh... yea. Lobster knows
Ah.
Well get some sort of anonymous letter off to the education board. In the mean time, read some literature of your own choosing. You can get many classics with appended study notes. Then again, perhaps I'm just too appreciative of works such as Romeo & Juliet. Or, to look at America, The Great Gatsby. (Jay Gatsby is my hero, might I add :D )
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R & J was alright... Ye Olde English is most annoying though.
To kill a mocking bird is queer. Its hard for me to get into a book if I DON'T FRICKEN CARE. I hate those "Hey we are poor kids in the south, lets see what kind of trouble we can get into when we walk over to mr. wilson's house and step in his rose garden while using poor grammar, yet fancy words" books. Note: I'm only on the second chapter.. (And the Audio version is ****e.. the Lady sounds like a retarded 84 year old woman from louisiana that just got done eating her stewed aligator testicles and can't quite swallow all the juices.
When do you think Rainbow Six will become an american classic?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
When do you think Rainbow Six will become an american classic?
:lol:
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its a good book and on top of it, a bunch of hippies get fragged.
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same thing at my school lol...kinda cool 'cos you can try to hack the servers lol
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My high school's security system is the dumbest. You can't click the start menu or access anything other that my documents, right? Well, the stupid ****ers that installed the computers forgot to take the address bar out of folder toolbars!! How the **** do you miss that?! If i could remember the name of the software i'd get a hack to bypass it, but all i know is that you hit ctrl-shift-esc to open the password window...
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My high school's security system is utter, absolute, ****. It is hillarious. So they have FoolProof, and they use a Novell networking client. In the Novell client, you can open help. In help you can browse the directory structure by clicking on "open" in the file menu. In there, you can delete the security system before it can turn itself on. Funny as hell. Since they are also running peice-of-****e 95, you can simply hit "tab" on start up, and boot to dos. Viola. Delete security system.
Drives me nuts...
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They installed all kinds of security things on the computer at my school, which made the computers extremely slow (10-minute startup time and delayed keystrokes that sometimes went up to a second) and resulted in very frequent crashes. Some functionality was also disabled; the start menu has nothing in it, none of the windows hotkeys worked (including ctrl-alt-del), and several other such things. Of course, they forgot that the "open file" dialog in most Windows programs (Word, VC++, etc.) is essentially an explorer window in itself lets the user mess around with the hard disk at will. :rolleyes: At least there were no internet restrictions, last I remember anyway.
To kill a mocking bird is queer. Its hard for me to get into a book if I DON'T FRICKEN CARE. I hate those "Hey we are poor kids in the south, lets see what kind of trouble we can get into when we walk over to mr. wilson's house and step in his rose garden while using poor grammar, yet fancy words" books.
oh this one; all-time third worst book I have read. :p (and I know exactly where you are coming from; okay, these kids got in trouble for acting like morons, who gives a rat's posterior?) It seems that they pretty much always pick the crappiest books they can find for english classes. I cannot recall ever reading anything good there, and all of the really terrible stuff I have read has been for school.
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Originally posted by CP5670
It seems that they pretty much always pick the crappiest books they can find for english classes. I cannot recall ever reading anything good there, and all of the really terrible stuff I have read has been for school.
I have been lucky in that I have had one or two decent english books - We did Tomorrow when the war began in year 9, That 413 (or something) degrees Farenheit in year 10, and The Handmaids tale (but that was for Lit, not regular english) last year (12). The syllabus also included Frankenstein, which my class didn't do, but I did use it in the end because it was such a good book. I know of some other schools where they've done 1984 and a few other good ones. Plus we've done documentaries, Year 11 and 12 english get to do whatever movies and TV shows they want as non print media, and in year 8 the year after I did it, the school started doing Star Wars ANH as their primary english movie :D.
Out of curiosity have they disabled Australian Google? It might not be quite as large as the american one, but at least you'll get websites in English.
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you can complain. what about A judgement in Stone by Ruth Rendell? Tho I gotta admit the end is cool.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Same thing basically happens when the class can't figure out why a bunch of zero's are being typed on Word and I tell them they need to take their elbow off of the number pad.
That actually happened to me once....
*runs*
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Originally posted by Stunaep
That actually happened to me once....
*runs*
you couldn't figure it out by yourself?
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Originally posted by vyper
[q]Tried to point it out and got into a ****load of trouble for it.
So when I got the chance I formatted the ****er[/q]
Good thinking, thats the kinda stuff I used to do at High School. :D
I only really did it because they accused me of causing trouble when all I was doing was pointing out a loophole. They weren't even connected to the internet so Internet Explorer wasn't even necessary on the machines.
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Originally posted by demon442
My high school's security system is the dumbest. You can't click the start menu or access anything other that my documents, right? Well, the stupid ****ers that installed the computers forgot to take the address bar out of folder toolbars!! How the **** do you miss that?! If i could remember the name of the software i'd get a hack to bypass it, but all i know is that you hit ctrl-shift-esc to open the password window...
Was the security program Deepfreeze by chance?
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heh, I have so many oppurtunities at my school to screw everything over it's funny..... (I have frequent temptations to format the shared student drive)
ignoring that our system is relatively okay, I can use google and the menus and shortcuts are almost all functional...
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
I agree, my college has blocked off the 3DAP Dynamic servers (but not 3DAP itself) so I can't access these forums from college... but I can access pretty much everything else.
it's the other way round here at Brighouse High School (B.H.S- Big Heap of ****), they have blocked anything on 3DAP itself, so i can still get on here by typing dynamic4,gamespy etc, but most avatars and **** are just red Xs.
Originally posted by wEvil
lol, at our Uni they obviously made some poor sod go around all 3,000 computers in the LRC and glue the damn balls in.
Which means when they get caked in crap you can no longer clean them out.
They've done that too, bastards. they said they couldn't afford to replace the mouse balls, claiming they cost upwards of £10!
Oh, and they don't seem to realise that, when in word, you can Ctrl-O, right click, and get into windows explorer, giving you access to ALL DRIVES!
Another thing, the twat who runs te department wiped my user profile ALL MY FUKCING COURSEWORK! just because I had put FS2View into my profile so i could get FS ships at school (basing GCSE graphics aroung FS, you see) HE still hasn't restored them. Before I leave I am going to drop a ****ing brick on his head.
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an0n's guide to getting around school computer defences
DISCLAIMER: I know I'd only get *****ed at for suggesting any hacker-type, 'evil' methods for getting around the security doo-hickeys so I'll keep it nice and PG rated
To put it simply, if it could be explained how to do it in a single post then you're retarded for not already knowing.
This aside, there are two main ways to disable the crappy-ass firewally whatsists. You can either wait till your IT teacher leaves the little cupboard where the server is kept to go get some coffee, nip inside and add a parameter to the security systems auto-run entry in the registry so it's inactive when the server boots up.
Or, you can engage in passive resistance until they take the damn things down, refusing to do any work on the computers until the offendnig programs are removed in their entirety.
The third and most blatantly spiteful method is to learn that pressing F8 at boot can be used to call up a DOS prompt, then go around del-tree'ing every computer in the school. But depending on how good your sys admin is they might be able to simply restore all the computers to their default remotely and en-masse (as my college does every 2 weeks).
Okay, I'm done.
Anyway, time for my little addition to the "Well, at my school" conversation:
My college had the most socially inept bunch of geeks e'er to be seen in sunlight. With their thick, plastic glasses and tweed jumpers there they would sit, in the Physics computer-room. Legend has it that they would sit there for hours on end, sometimes even from dawn till dusk, plotting, programming, compiling and exploiting. The greatest of them all: Beefy, a boy who no matter what deodorant or cologne he applied would smeel constantly of beef and sweat, and Proxy, a boy so socially inept that he had passed through the lower social regions from geek to loser, loser to homo, homo to hacker-homo, hacker-homo to Elfen Warrior of the 32nd level. There they would sit, leading what we affectionately refered to as the DOOM-Club, hacking the main server, locking all the first-years accounts, disabling firewalls so they could play Multiplayer Warcraft and Delta Force, reading through teacher's e-mails, all the while un-noticed by one of the finest damn system administration teams I have ever seen. In all of the 2 years of their operation they were ne'er defeated by the 4 A-level IT professors who manned the server around the clock, 4 vast, evil, heartless men who did thing like deny access to regedit and set the server to delete all exe's from user-disk-space. And then, during the Great Redecoration, the Physics lab was no more. With Proxy heading off for university and the DOOM-Club lackeys disbanding in search of higher-resolutions and force-feedback joysticks, the DOOM-Club became no more. And now Beefy sits all alone, in the bowels of the college, down in the dank, dark basement in the Psychology computer room playing Elastomania and dreaming of a day when he will once again have friends. The day when he will finally walk forth into the world as a King of the 120th level.
Some say, that if you listen carefully as the sun is setting and the cleaners are leaving for the night you can hear his solitary, piercing howl echoing out into the night. His lonely, nightly scream; "PROOOXXXYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"......
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our school technician gets pretty pissed of when you change the backgrounds/desktops, porbably becuase he has to stop watching Bargain Hunt on the tv's that arent out in a class, and get off his ass to change the desktop back. So the desktop properties are disabled. Infact all the properties menus for anything are disabled... though he still hasnt found a way of stopping the "set as background" function in MS paint :wink:
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Originally posted by an0n
playing Elastomania
Sad thing is, half our class plays this when we should be learning about the joy of databases...
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Originally posted by an0n:
The third and most blatantly spiteful method is to learn that pressing F8 at boot can be used to call up a DOS prompt, then go around del-tree'ing every computer in the school. But depending on how good your sys admin is they might be able to simply restore all the computers to their default remotely and en-masse (as my college does every 2 weeks).
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What if the program disables floppy booting and the F8 menu?
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Our school system isnt facist really, cept for the banning of being able to right click. Its tougher than the days we used to nuke each others computers(for the unenlightened among you, this means using a program which causes another computer on the network to reboot).
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Originally posted by SKYNET-011
What if the program disables floppy booting and the F8 menu?
.......Only the BIOS can disable floppy booting. And as far as I know/can-remember, nothing can stop you F8'ing at boot except some really nasty alterations to Windows and DOS.
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Originally posted by an0n
.......Only the BIOS can disable floppy booting. And as far as I know/can-remember, nothing can stop you F8'ing at boot except some really nasty alterations to Windows and DOS.
Forget me hacking the computers, they're bad enough already. I'd like to see the computer systems in our school with a virus.
Hmmm... :devil:
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a bunch of computers in my CS class were hit by the nimda virus last year. nimda can be spread by opening infected emails, and when that happens it spreads around the network. the virus would also put shortcuts to the email on the desktop. whenever one computer would be cleansed, someone would open an infected email on another computer an reinfect the disinfected one :D
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W00t! That'll teach 'em! :D
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Fortunately for me, I don't have any such restrictions at school. We are free to look into game sites, but noone searches for porn and such. However, when I was in one classroom (we didn't have class) some idiots actually got into the main PC which has some admin program which makes a chosen PC in the system to act as the admin PC wants to. Imagine that. They moove your cursor, type what they want etc. They really pissed me off. They practically spammed me with crap and I of course told the real admin and now they have their accounts destroyed. Banned that is. Vengeance is bad, but it's sweet! :drevil:
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I can't get on half the results in Google, I can open my FTP for 3Dap, but I can't execute anything. Me and my friends ( The computer geeks in the school, though we aren't at all unpopular ) are always having the strangest urge to bring down the system.
You get an office referrel for changing the desktop background at our school. But that doesn't stop people puting semi naked people (FRom bad pop-up adds) on the desktop. :D
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at least its better than goatse desktops that we put onto the admin computer once