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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Sandwich on August 26, 2001, 04:52:00 pm
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I'm considering making one, covering the best way to prepare a Rhino model for TS and FS2, as well as the steps needed to be taken in TS. Is there enough interest in this or would there not be many people who'd use Rhino?
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"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
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Rihno was that like? heard of it but never seen it...
*I use milkshape* (and my cats breath smells of cat food)
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Like what?
IMHO, Rhino is the absolute best for pure modeling. But the problematic point is in the conversion from Rhino to TS - how to keep things in sub-groups, how to make it easy to use the auto-turret in Kazan's converter, etc. That's what I want to address in this tutorial, among other stuff.
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
[This message has been edited by sandwich (edited 08-26-2001).]
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Ok why is it the 'best'?
milkshape akawys you to texture pretty easily and diffrent groups become subojects ready to be glued to a light and then to the main hulls (they are all glued to first gruop but I like to separate them and make sure anyway)
and it cost $25 or something
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Ok, well to be honest I've never heard of MilkShape before, so I can't compare the two. But I find it hard to imagine any program being more intuitive and simple, yet powerful, then Rhino. Try it out ("http://www.rhino3d.com/") for yourself. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Sounds good to me, sandwich...
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$800 ARRR!!! !!!!
would rather shell out for Max, infact I would rather get them both free.
so $30 is fine for me!
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I agree with BA, sounds good to me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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*bump*
Errrmmm.... I kinda hoped to get a bit more then 2 people interested... :-/
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Before this I had only heard of it in a list of 200 modlers... so mabye not many use it?
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*re-bump*
Anyone else?
Maybe you all need to see some proof of what you can easily do in Rhino. Here ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/000670.html") and here ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/000669.html"). (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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a Rhino tutorial would be great! I've used it for about a year now, and by far it's the best modeling program I've come across. you can do pretty much anything with it, though it isn't very good for renders or texturing. actually, I don't even have FS2 installed anymore (damn computer) but I still come here often and tinker around with making a few Rhino-made models here and there. though I find it easier to work with nurbs than meshes. they're much more flexible.
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The way I think of it is scale by price - scale up Milkshape by $800 or $1500 and you get BIG features!!!! and BIG HCI User Friendlyness!!!!!
I know its flawed but it makes me feel better with my $30 program!
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I think a tutorial would be good. Could you include information in it on how to hack the rhino demo? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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I'd like one. I had the Rhino demo once, and it seemed allright.
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Originally posted by YodaSean:
I think a tutorial would be good. Could you include information in it on how to hack the rhino demo? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I refuse to put such illegal content into my tutorial! How dare you even suggest such a thing?! I'd rather post it here. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
To hack the demo, just go to someplace on the web, download a certain file, and then do something with that file. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Originally posted by sandwich:
To hack the demo, just go to someplace on the web, download a certain file, and then do something with that file. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Yeah... You're alot of help... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Even though I have no intentions of hacking it, and already know the sites... hehe
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Jeez - you're a fast replier! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Well, I was just finishing a round of spamm......errr.... replies, and this forum lit up... hehe
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Ok, ok - I'm doin' it... Your overwhelming response convinced me. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
I realistically expect it to be ready within the week. And, if I may say so, it is quite high quality. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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is it done yet??
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The fear always controls our attitude, let us fear no more!
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Cobalt's still converting it...
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Originally posted by Setekh:
...still...
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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No, I'm serious! He's really busy scripting for us. Sorry. But well-tempered webbie/script kiddies like are hard to come by, y'know? So we don't want to stress him... too much. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
No, I'm serious! He's really busy scripting for us. Sorry. But well-tempered webbie/script kiddies like are hard to come by, y'know? So we don't want to stress him... too much. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
...with the emphasis on the "well-tempered" part, right? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Sssshhhhh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Sssshhhhh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Oh, now I get it! Cobalt's actually asleep, which is why you're shushing me, but you want us to think that he's working on the tutorial... Sneaky! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Sssshhhhh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by sandwich:
Oh, now I get it! Cobalt's actually asleep, which is why you're shushing me, but you want us to think that he's working on the tutorial... Sneaky! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Sssshhhhh... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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K, this is getting weird...
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Speak for yourself, you glowing body of light... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Speak for yourself, you glowing body of light... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
...speaking of which: Thunder - lower the size of that glowy thing - it's distorting all the forums. Please. *begs on both knees*
And back on topic: Cobalt, whereever you are - what's the progress like, man? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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*bump*
Hey Setekh, any updates? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Did ("http://www.scifi-meshes.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=42&t=000010") someone ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/artbiofight.jpg") say ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/bioships.jpg") Rhino? ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/seraphflight.jpg")
[This message has been edited by Artimus (edited 10-17-2001).]
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Originally posted by Artimus:
Did ("http://www.scifi-meshes.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=42&t=000010") someone ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/artbiofight.jpg") say ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/bioships.jpg") Rhino? ("http://www.th3b4r.com/files/seraphflight.jpg")
[This message has been edited by Artimus (edited 10-17-2001).]
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)