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Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 07:16:28 am
Here is my idea on my new campaign. I know its a tad bit controversial, but MEH! :p

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After years knowing that "they" could return at any moment, they did. However, this time the GTVA had been able to repell the first wave of shivan forces. The Shivan entry point was another knossos. The GTVA decides not to wait untill the shivans invade again and decide on a pre-emptive strike.

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Bit short description cause if I make it bigger I'd give away my entire campaign. Ow, and this is without the history.

Now before you start *****ing and moaning about the GTVA invading Shivan space, it is their only chance. Else they'd just be sitting ducks for another invasion. Seems like the obvious thing to do. Its better to take the fight to them, then to let them come and devestate your worlds.

Note: This will be the first of more to come. I want them to be small campaigns each with both an ending but also a possibility to go on.
Title: Re: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2003, 07:28:25 am
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Originally posted by Tiara
Note: This will be the first of more to come. I want them to be small campaigns each with both an ending but also a possibility to go on.


that was my idea for OTT demos, a kind of mini series before the big thing... well, that was before the "Great 2002 Fredder Shortage"...
I could be *****ing on the fact that it could be the way to go ( attacking shivans I mean ) , but sounds fairly impossible ( they're a "bit" too much probably ), but I don't know your plot so I'll wait and see :)
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 07:35:11 am
Ok sice you do want to ***** about it, let's :D

Choices:

- Stay at home and mount a defense (by then pwetty strong due to tech advances and sorts. But face a mass of Shivan forces on your own grounds. With the strong possibilty of having multiple worlds fried to a crisp

- Take the fight to them. You don't know whats behind the gate but if you can take the other side of the gate you have complete control over it. And hoping they don't have another gate to backstab you...

Now I will not go any further or my campaign won't be fun to play :p

Ow and, I am planning on using a existing capship mod to act as the fleet flagship.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2003, 07:41:55 am
okok, I said I wouldn't *****, I just said what I would ***** about if I were to :D
please don't hurt me :nervous:
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 07:44:41 am
Hehe :wink:

Now, could anyone point me in the direction of a site with some available existing mods. (Credit will be given where credit is due)

I have reconsidered, and I think some more new designs should appear in the 12 year gap between the 2nd GW and this camp.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Black Wolf on February 14, 2003, 07:48:47 am
I suppose whether it works will depend on the GTVAs intentions. If they intend to mount an assault upon the entire Shivan species, and wipe them from the Galaxy, then that's just ridiculous, but if their aim is to, say, get as deep inside Shivan territory as possible and try and destroy a node so that they can't get to us for a fair while... that might be pretty cool.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2003, 08:03:23 am
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Originally posted by Tiara
Hehe :wink:

Now, could anyone point me in the direction of a site with some available existing mods. (Credit will be given where credit is due)

I have reconsidered, and I think some more new designs should appear in the 12 year gap between the 2nd GW and this camp.


get my banshee from the inferno website, first :D
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 08:18:48 am
Meh, Bashee design is cool, but I don't like the ship itself to fly. Any other good mods to d/l?
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2003, 08:24:11 am
guess there's some other stuff around, yeah. for the banshee, chaning the tbl is easy I guess. anyway woo told me it's not available on his site anymore ( there's a big FTP cleaning going on those days... )
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Darkage on February 14, 2003, 09:04:33 am
I still have the Banshee from woo's site. But most small mods are gone.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Woomeister on February 14, 2003, 09:08:32 am
The Banshee on the site is outdated anyway.
Well we should be releasing the mods soon so you might want to browse through them once we do, I'm sure you'll find something you might want to use :)
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Darkage on February 14, 2003, 09:09:28 am
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Originally posted by Tiara
Meh, Bashee design is cool, but I don't like the ship itself to fly. Any other good mods to d/l?



just change the TBL entry until you like how it fly's:)
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 09:17:45 am
:D

I'm already wrking on the first mission. Need no mods for that one ;)

I'm planning on a +/- 5 mission campaign (The first part)
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2003, 09:23:16 am
just a question: if I like this little campaign do you think it'd be possible for you to do a 3 missions campaign for me? mods, plot, etc, are already done.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 10:06:35 am
Well, seeing as I'm planning to continue this campaign I'll have to see if I can find the time. I might ;)
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Knight Templar on February 14, 2003, 11:21:38 am
Say, tiara have you taken a look at DatDB any? Is your knossos in Ross 128? You wanna help out with DatDB? :p


Seriously though, your idea sounds almost exactly like DatDB, just on a lot smaller scale and 6 years earlier.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 11:32:46 am
No, its not in Ross ;)

And suddenly I have 4 requests on my plate. One for me to be story dev. and 3 FRED offers :D

But I'm currently sticking with my own campaign. I really want to see if I can pull this off all by myself. If it works, maybe more people will be inclined to try a smaller campaign instead of campaigns like Inferno (No offense intended) that take ages to complete.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Knight Templar on February 14, 2003, 11:42:30 am
But Gargantuan uber-unattainable campaigns are what make the FS world go round' :D

anywho, good luck.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 02:13:28 pm
Mission 1: 75% complete

:D
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Unknown Target on February 14, 2003, 02:43:21 pm
Not to rain on anyone's parade or something, but...

Hasn't this been done already? Or has it been cancelled?
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 02:46:24 pm
Even if it has been done before I couldn't really care less :p It's my campaign... MINE! ALL MINE!

*cough*

Did I say that out loud?

Anywayz, I am going to try to make the GTVA actually make some smart "tactical" moves. At least not as dumb as sending the Collosus to face the sathanas by itsself.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Stunaep on February 14, 2003, 03:50:24 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
Even if it has been done before I couldn't really care less :p It's my campaign... MINE! ALL MINE!
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*gets two towers flashbacks*

god I love that movie.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 03:54:00 pm
...precious... my preeeeeeecious...

The Campaign of Powerâ„¢ :D
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Stunaep on February 14, 2003, 03:58:49 pm
*is stilled flashed*

*pulls out his english to elvish dictionary and start shouting random curses, hoping to see a bigass horseshaped wave*

*gets erected by thinking of the movie*
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 03:59:47 pm
Ok, please no more spamming here. I want to keep this thread for my campaign.

Ow, and stunaep, depending on how you mean "get erected", do it [size=20]SOMEWHERE ELSE![/size].

:p
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Stunaep on February 14, 2003, 04:04:37 pm
on-topic now:

how is the GTVA going to get a fleet capable of countering the Shivan Swarm, after the Capella incident? I mean, they lost entire fleets (most of the 3rd fleet, the 9th fleet, the 6th, 7th and 8th fleets, and god knows how much Vasudan battlegroups).

Is a new resourceful system, or whatever you call them, in order?
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 04:06:30 pm
12 years knowing that they can come back can have a great effect on the effectiveness of your researchers and engeneers. Many resources were used for military rebuilding.

Fear can be a good thing :D

As for the resources, strip mining uninhabitable planets is a good way to go.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Stunaep on February 14, 2003, 04:09:43 pm
well, you couldn't exactly say losing all ties to Earth, and completely losing a species' homeworld wouldn't be activating. Yet it still took them 20 years to complete the Colossus.

Also wouldn't such overclocked (in lack of a better word) building ruin the societies of the Terran/Vasudan races to a feudalistic level?
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 04:12:02 pm
I didn't say the general populous would be happy. You will see my friend, you will see.

As for the collosus... screw it, it sucked arse. Even a deimos could kill it.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Stunaep on February 14, 2003, 04:14:35 pm
Ooh, I gotta look up that thread by Carl, about why the Colossus was useful. I had some pretty interesting ideas a while ago, but no point in rederailing the thread.

Could we expect a public uprising later in the campaign?

*has great campaign idea*

*opens up notepad*

*writes 'Lightning Marshal: Release Who Gives A Damn*

Random p1mp of the day: Look for LM3 the day after we get our hands on the 3.50
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 14, 2003, 04:17:42 pm
Heh, only time will tell... Well actually my campaign will but meh...

My campaign won't be a simple attack and destroy / defend campaign.

As for the colossus, i'd prefer a Deimos over a Collosus any day. Much more manouverable, far less expensive, building time is like 4 times as short. Firepower is heavy as hell for its size.
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2003, 04:48:16 pm
IMO - post FS2 GTVA history (30 years later)

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/techCapella.html

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/techColonyWars.html
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Nico on February 15, 2003, 03:45:58 am
lol, Aldo, what if we all do that? :D
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 15, 2003, 05:01:43 am
Aldo, the Capella thingy might be somewhat like my history, but the colony wars won't be here. Though unrest and small fights will be there.

Also in my campaign they are nowhere near the technology of a knossos. IMO its a piece of technology far too complex for the human/vasudan society to build.

But you will see, the results of my history will be in part 2. :D I'm liking this.

UPDATE:

- Mission 1: 99% done
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 16, 2003, 09:56:22 am
Here are some screenies from the first mission (http://www.fattonys.com/images/upload/screenies.swf)

Right click, save as

You can view it in a browser but its ugly unless you make the window smaller. I still recommend saving it to your HD :)

Names of the screenies:

The top one: "In your face!"
Second one: "Pummeling a Cain"
Third one: "Bombin' da Demon"
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Knight Templar on February 16, 2003, 11:52:24 am
:yes:

*kicks self for not knowing flash*
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 17, 2003, 03:03:00 am
Mission 1: Done
Mission 2: 10% complete
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Killfrenzy on February 17, 2003, 07:07:44 am
[P1MP] BTW, Tiara, if you want mods, you can use my Spitfire (http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?3dactionplanet/freespace/spitfire.zip)!! :D:D [/P1MP]
Title: Freespace II: War on the other side
Post by: Tiara on February 17, 2003, 08:14:15 am
Nah, I'm probably using only 1 new ship (well not entirely new :p)