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Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 07:18:52 am: Yet ,.. kinna depressing :|

Links:

Force.net's Article (http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.shtml#19908)

Starwars.com's (http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/20030220/index.html/)

Sad thing is the team that does Dexter's Lab and Samurai jack are doing it. They're using one ofthe unused concepts for a villian,...that's already been used in Bounty Hunter ,...and all they did was change the name ,..same concept as the game's character,.... Dark Jedi chic that trained under Dooku and uses two sabers. Originallity shot.

and my favorite quote :

Quote
"Durge has these special powers. If you cut him down, he can reconnect himself. We have him face off with Obi-Wan. He rides a speeder bike with a lance, so we're playing around with ideas like jousting with other Jedi Knights on speeder bikes," laughs Tartakovsky

It's like Droids and Ewoks for the next generation LOL
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Gloriano on February 21, 2003, 07:40:41 am: nooooooooooooooooo:D :D :D :D
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on February 21, 2003, 07:53:22 am: how long before SW actually gets worse than ST?
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Zeronet on February 21, 2003, 07:54:25 am: They are 3 minutes long, thats not even worth watching.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:06:27 am: Good, they're only 3 minutes long?

I must admit, ever since EP.1, I've slowly fallen from the Star Wars fan scene.

*cries because he can't remember how many turbolasers a Star Destroyer has*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:35:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar

*cries because he can't remember how many turbolasers a Star Destroyer has*

Star Destroyer (Galactic Class)=
100 heavy turbolaser batteries, 100 heavy ion cannons, and 12 tractor beams. It carries 10,000 troops and two wings (12 squadrons) of TIE-Class starfighters for a total of 144

Star Destroyer (Imperial Class)=
60 heavy turbolaser batteries, 60 heavy ion cannons, and 10 tractor beams. It also carries 9,700 troops and a wing (6 squadrons) of TIE-Class fighters for a total of 72.
(http://www.isomedia.com/homes/kosta/StarWars/pictures/vehicles/destroyer_big.jpg)

Super Star Destroyer =
250 turbolaser batteries, 250 heavy turbolaser batteries, 250 concussion missile tubes, and 250 ion cannons as well as 40 tractor beams. It carries 38,000 troops, 12 Squadrons of various TIE-Class ships and gunboats, and two more wings with a total of 144 fighters.
(http://www.isomedia.com/homes/kosta/StarWars/pictures/vehicles/ssd_big.jpg)

Star Destroyer (Victory Class)=
It is armed with 40 heavy turbolaser batteries and 40 heavy ion cannons, as well as 5 tractor beams. It carries, 6,500 troops and 4 squadrons of various TIE-Class starfighters for a total of 48.

Strike Cruiser =
It has 20 laser batteries, 30 turbolaser turrets, and a warhead launcher tube. I can also carry a squadron of snubfighters, usually R-41 Starchaisers

There you go ;D
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:39:34 am: Galactic class ? :wtf:

Where the hell did you dig up that one ?
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:42:12 am: yeah, actually i think they're called Victory 1 class and Victory 2 class... but i got all that crap i just posted from a website, i don't knowthat much about the SC universe ;) :p

EDIT: URL: http://www.isomedia.com/homes/kosta/StarWars/pictures/vehicles
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:45:10 am: LOL Well whereever you got it either someone made up something .... or just doesn't bother with aactual SW stuff :D

Here (http://www1.theforce.net/cuswe/categories.asp?category=7&type=55)

But it couldn't be a Vic 1 or 2 ... since those were the pre-emp of the Imperial class and much smaller.

;)
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:46:10 am: also see this page:

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/dagger.html#victory

very, very helpful

EDIT: HA! i was right! there are two Victory destroyers! :)
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:46:40 am: There is no Galactic Class.. at least a anon one. It sounds like a friggin' carrier though.

and it's not a Victory, they can only hold 2 squadrons of ties, not 12.

EDIT: Yes there are 2 Victories, but no Galactic
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:47:15 am: yeah, note the two websites posted above, they're actually very helpful!

note that there are actually some "annoymous" star destroyers, one of which i believe matches the specifications of the Galactic Class
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:48:32 am: OK, tell me what these are:

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/de/hauler3.jpg)

Spoiler:

A cargo of advanced Balmorran war-droids is unloaded from the star hauler Reliance at one of the surface freight ports of Byss.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:48:35 am: I usually just go to Starwars.com or theforce.net

theforce has their whole goddamned canon Star Wars section that is a lovely refrence that I hate so much. :doubt:

EDIT: Reaver machines are known as War Machines IIRC. War Droids.. dunno. They were in SW Rebellion.

I tend to dismiss comic book stuff as just stuff that looks kool but isn't really canon.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:50:28 am: BTW that exact link is blocked.

But ummm ... least it's funny :)

The Webmaster is a bit clueless thou ... saying a VSD was the preferred class of Grand admiral Thrawn and his command ship was a Vic ? Ummm noooooo Chimera was a Imperial Class ... can't recall if it's a 1 or 2 thou.

And "Jedi Works" ? LOL WTF ?

*shudder*

yea ... sorry bro...you got tagged with a worthless SW source lol
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:51:37 am: heeey, pretty good KT
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:51:46 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
OK, tell me what these are:

heh bout all I knew was they were from Dark Empire ... didn't get too into that series ;)
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:52:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by Warlock
yea ... sorry bro...you got tagged with a worthless SW source lol

*sigh*
that's what happens when you go to www.ask.com and search for "How many lasers does a star destroyer have?"

:D
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:54:03 am: Chimaera was an Old skool ISD I

I forgot why he picked it though.. I think he had a thing for Pellaeon ;7
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:54:08 am: LMAO

Honestly ... unless I KNOW I read it or saw it in the films...I only use theforce.net or Starwars.com.

Especially with all the RPG sites with custom crap on them.

(Still shivers whenever he sees Macross stats for Starwars games)
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:55:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Warlock

heh bout all I knew was they were from Dark Empire ... didn't get too into that series ;)

I have the first Dark Empire, not the Second one though :(

The whole galaxy gun deal was kinda queer though as star wars goes. Eclipse was alot cooler, but 2?

:doubt:
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:56:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Chimaera was an Old skool ISD I

I forgot why he picked it though.. I think he had a thing for Pellaeon ;7

Actually it was assigned to him. Remember Thrawn was on mission in the Unknown regions for most of his tour of duty by order of Palpy. When he returned and learned of the Empire's Fall...he pulled the remaining crap back together.

Sides I _THINK_ all the Super-class SDs were either destroyed or under New Reb. control by then.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 11:57:15 am: the star wars empire is too big for me to learn :D

*sticks with the FS universe*

;0
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 11:58:22 am: Are you sure it was assigned? I thought Pellaeon was on it during the Battle for Endor, and the captain died. The Imperial Fleet was in Disarray wit hpalpy dead so they pulled back to Coruscant. I'm sure Pellaeon had it.

Meh, I'll be back in 6 hours.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 11:59:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar

I have the first Dark Empire, not the Second one though :(

The whole galaxy gun deal was kinda queer though as star wars goes. Eclipse was alot cooler, but 2?

:doubt:

Yea ... that's why I don't hold many of the comics as Cannon.

The Sovereign wasn't too shabby either ...from Dark Empire 2 if I recall.

But just like this Clone Wars toon....too many ppl can take a great theme ... and fry the hell out of it. LOL

I just wanna know why someone hasn't told those twits that their concept for a Dark Jedi Villan is a 99% exact copy of the one from Bounty Hunter... same background even ... just a new name lol

Ican see it now "Oh ... wellthey both just happened to be trained by Dooku, look exactly alike, and use two sabers...but completely different characters" lol
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Stealth on February 21, 2003, 12:00:10 pm: damn i remember those books, with Thrawn who was going for those little creatures who were awesome fighters, and Leia went down to try to release them from "slavery", but they thought the admiral was doing them a favor, because he had drones helping plant stuff, but actually they were planting chemicals, and destroying them as much as building, so they always felt obliged to the Admiral, and always sent their people to fight for the admiral. in the end, one of the "fighters" actually kills the admiral.

What books (book?) was that?

Also the one i remember perfectly clearly is with "Master" Luke Skywalker when he fights Kueller and Brakiss, etc.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 12:01:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Are you sure it was assigned? I thought Pellaeon was on it during the Battle for Endor, and the captain died. The Imperial Fleet was in Disarray wit hpalpy dead so they pulled back to Coruscant. I'm sure Pellaeon had it.

Meh, I'll be back in 6 hours.

DOH! You're right. I remembered Pallaeon being Thrawn's second in command and completely forgot Palleon actually took command at Endor UNTIL Thrawn showed up. ;)

Thanks for catching that.

BTW if you read the NJO series ... the latest book has a good bit about Palleon, really shows his personality well.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Warlock on February 21, 2003, 12:07:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
damn i remember those books, with Thrawn who was going for those little creatures who were awesome fighters, and Leia went down to try to release them from "slavery", but they thought the admiral was doing them a favor, because he had drones helping plant stuff, but actually they were planting chemicals, and destroying them as much as building, so they always felt obliged to the Admiral, and always sent their people to fight for the admiral.

What books (book?) was that?

Also the one i remember perfectly clearly is with "Master" Luke Skywalker when he fights Kueller and Brakiss, etc.

ahem :
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
Last Command

The Little assassins : Nohgri (sp?) and Vader was the original one that 'faked' saving their planet yet was actually making it worse, that just continued until Thrawn discovered them and made use of them....they listened to Liea because of her scent marking her as "Lady Vader" (Least I THINK they said scent) Once they realized what the Emps pulled on them,....one of their ppl thatwas Thrawn's bodyguard killed him.

and actually the Brakiss/Kueller event was different books, Kueller was in "New Rebellion" using droids as bombs,...Brakiss was getting the Droids for him but he didn't die until later (Young Jedi series I think) when the Shadow Academy was destroyed.
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: CP5670 on February 21, 2003, 12:29:57 pm: Quote
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/de/hauler3.jpg)

You know, that ship on the top of the drawing somehow resembles a Charybdis AWACS vessel... :D
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Post by: Zeronet on February 21, 2003, 01:26:08 pm: I get the SW Fact File, got 59 of them up to now.
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Post by: Knight Templar on February 21, 2003, 07:34:22 pm: Someone remind me to read the rest of the NJO series this summer. I'm at the 3rd or 4th one.. Hero's Trial I think. Haven't had time to read them :doubt:

Wasn't the Sovereign the one that was almost like a SSD?
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: J.F.K. on February 21, 2003, 09:08:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
Super Star Destroyer =
250 turbolaser batteries, 250 heavy turbolaser batteries, 250 concussion missile tubes, and 250 ion cannons as well as 40 tractor beams. It carries 38,000 troops, 12 Squadrons of various TIE-Class ships and gunboats, and two more wings with a total of 144 fighters.
(http://www.isomedia.com/homes/kosta/StarWars/pictures/vehicles/ssd_big.jpg)

Is the Executor one of those?

Shame about the Clone Wars cartoon series. The best thing I liked about AOTC was seeing real life (well, RL-imitating) battles on the big screen. I might watch the series for 10 or 12 seconds and then change to the history channel.
Title: Re: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Turnsky on February 21, 2003, 09:39:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Warlock
Yet ,.. kinna depressing :|

Links:

Force.net's Article (http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.shtml#19908)

Starwars.com's (http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/20030220/index.html/)

Sad thing is the team that does Dexter's Lab and Samurai jack are doing it. They're using one ofthe unused concepts for a villian,...that's already been used in Bounty Hunter ,...and all they did was change the name ,..same concept as the game's character,.... Dark Jedi chic that trained under Dooku and uses two sabers. Originallity shot.

and my favorite quote :

It's like Droids and Ewoks for the next generation LOL

I sense a great disturbence in the force as if a thousand geeks cried out and then were suddenly silenced...
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Anaz on February 21, 2003, 11:09:19 pm: Last Command had the suckiest ending ever...all the way up to that it was f*ing sweet...but last command's ending was teh suck...
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: aldo_14 on February 22, 2003, 03:31:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by CP5670

You know, that ship on the top of the drawing somehow resembles a Charybdis AWACS vessel... :D

IIRC, there's a frigate in the Battle of Endor (the view as the rebel fleet approaches the Death Star, I think) that looks a hell of a lot like the Hiipocrates.
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Post by: Knight Templar on February 22, 2003, 04:03:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

IIRC, there's a frigate in the Battle of Endor (the view as the rebel fleet approaches the Death Star, I think) that looks a hell of a lot like the Hiipocrates.

The Nebulon B Frigate?

Quote
Last Command had the suckiest ending ever...all the way up to that it was f*ing sweet...but last command's ending was teh suck...

With the clone? I thought it was ok. I haven't read it in 5 or 6 years though :p
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Post by: Unknown Target on February 22, 2003, 04:08:39 pm: *stares at everyone in this thread*

Uhhh...NCC-1701A Constitution Class?

*hears crickets chirping*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: delta_7890 on February 22, 2003, 06:24:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
*stares at everyone in this thread*

Uhhh...NCC-1701A Constitution Class?

*hears crickets chirping*

*Incinerates*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Turnsky on February 22, 2003, 06:25:56 pm: *gets marshmallows*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Unknown Target on February 22, 2003, 06:33:34 pm: *reaches out a mangled hand and grabs Turnsky's marshmellows*

*puts it on head, for automatic roasting*

Ding!

*gives marshmellow back to Turnsky*

Service with a smile.

*smile now looks like I've got constepation*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Turnsky on February 22, 2003, 06:35:05 pm: *vomits as the marsmallow now smells like burnt flesh*
Title: Starwars: Clone wars Cartoon Offically announced
Post by: Liberator on February 23, 2003, 01:38:50 am: Quote
Sad thing is the team that does Dexter's Lab and Samurai jack are doing it.

Don't forget the Powerpuff Girls, they're from the same people.

BTW, whats wrong with any of these shows, granted Dexter's Lab has gotten somewhat crappy of late, but Jack is the coolest, most eloquent American cartoon character since Popeye. Get's bonus point for having Mako as a recurring character.