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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 28, 2003, 10:57:10 pm
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Ok, some of us have been kicking things around, things to make things a little more fun/less monotanous around here. Everything from better advertising and hype of fred contests and model contests, to the creation of mini mods to get releases in a hurry, to Shrike's New Node Wars format.
The thing is, no one has thought to ask what you want, it's your forum too, so why don't you tell us what you want, kind of like we do with the Source Code guys.
By us i mean the people who have been talking about this stuff. Maybe we can all get something put together to present to the powers that be and get something done with it.
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Boobies!... and more models/mini campaiagns ;7
B00z3! More bettar topics. Politcal threads banned. b00bi3z!
FTP access and Emails for DatDB. :D
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SHOELACES
Shut up, KT. Even I'm not that bad an attention whore.
Okay, so I am, but at least I admitted it.
Minimods and campaigns. Just stuff to futz around with that's not original FS, three years old, or only half done.
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Go die Stryke :p
Actually another thing that has been cliqued in the past week.. but is a good idea: Some kind of community project where everyone can contirubte.
Maybe something like UT's HLP stories or the History of HLP dramatized and played out in a mini-campaign or something. Frankly, although i have plenty of work, i'm kinda bored in between jobs/procrastinating stuff.
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OK there are a ton of models out there to download, and wioth a bit of table magic you have new weapons, and then with a bit more you have new weapons on your new ships. Fred five missions and you have a campaign. add voices and you can release it. add five more and you have a sequel, instead of releasing massive and massively complex campaigns, why not create a series of mini mods that go from CB to CB? usually four to five missions between CB's, so they always make good stopping points for releases. I am not saying to stop work on the big magor mods, but sometimes when i look at the CF i get overwhelmed with the amount of work i set out to do. I am sure that other people get just as overwhelmed when they see that while i may release episode 1 in six months, it will probably two years or more before the final episode is realeased and the story is finally told. Maybe some good short term mods to act as fillers. how many of the people who aren't involved would be willing to do something like this? and how many who are involved would be willing? I guess that's the thing.
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We could always tell a story.
:nervous: What? Don't look at me like that... no... NOOOOOOO!!
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Boobies!
you're right, only like 3 people here can legitimately say they have them... a severe lack I'd say, let's increase our stock! ;7
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Well, four, with KT, but his don't really count.
Sounds good.
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How about some historical discussions? ;7
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That would be cool, which weapon owuld you rather have if you were assaulting a sathanas with 14th century technology...trebuchet or ballista?
I just don't see a shield wall being able to stand up to the charge.
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I'd say trebuchet, but you'd have to have like 40 million to scratch the Sath :lol: I don't mind history, you can prolly pick up more education from history here than at school anyway :D
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hey stay on topic
Anyways, what I'de really want is a big community project that had everyone involved (if more people are involved then theres actually a chance of finishing) that had all new high quality models, mission etc..like Freespace 2.5
but I'm realistic and know whats not too likely to happen. If anyone has ever played EOC_online ( http://www.independencewar2.com ) or utopia ( http://games.swirve.com ) then I would like something like that. Either a browser game (text based, but believe me it can be very fun) where you pilot you ship to different sectors and shoot other people etc (with factions and a persistant world), or a browser text game where you build a fleet, manage resources etc etc, all in the FS universe
I think the second idea is more likely to happen, all it needs is someone who know php or something like that
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campaigns that are actually released.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
campaigns that are actually released.
:nod:
Hex is working on some sort of model producing group, taking a range of skills from different modelers and putting them together. SOmething like this for campaigns would be really good. curently it seems there are many projects with a few people on each, but they never get very far because the people invloved get distracted. With a large 'workforce' you'd get a lot more done. With all the skill that we have here at HLP, it doesnt seem much is getting used. If the community took everyone with skills and managed the assignment of work among them, there would be a lot more campaigns on your hard disk.
Afterall, whats the summary statement for HLP? "Bringing Modders Together"
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Back on the original topic, the main things I would like to see are a scrollbar in the command briefing window and the two things I mentioned in that sexp thread a few months ago:
I don't know if this has been already stated; if so, just ignore this post. This is not exactly a sexp, but rather an option in the ship properties window. What I had in mind was to put in something that lets one edit the initial hit points of the ship. For example, I sometimes find that a certain ship is too strong or too weak for a certain situation gameplay-wise and have to adjust other mission parameters accordingly to balance things out. In the worst cases when nothing else would do, I have ended up making a duplicate entry of the ship in ships.tbl with all the same stats except with different hit points, which is obviously quite cumbersome and just eats up valuable space in the table. So this new setting would allow a ship to have a custom hit point value (just like default weapons and explosions for a particular ship can be overridden in the weapons and special explosion editors, so can hit points). The strength percentage and all other values dependent on the hit points would use the new hit point specification instead of the default one in the table. This would only apply for that particular ship of course, and not all ships of the same class within the mission.
Also, one other little thing that might be nice would be to increase the limit of alternate names to 20 or so. The alt name feature is useful when there are standard GTVA classes of ships under the control of some other faction (since the prefix needs to be changed from GT or GV to whatever else), but the current limit only allows for 10 different such ships in any one mission.
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I want a debate forum :)
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Originally posted by Bobboau
I want a debate forum :)
agreed, a place where we can discuss politics, but without the resulting flamewar. it think the best way to ahcieve this, is a seperate moderator for this forum, and immediate bans for everyone who goes to far.
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A Freespace movie that actually gets animated;7
We could set up something like SETI, where everyone's PC pitches in to render it.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
We could set up something like SETI, where everyone's PC pitches in to render it. [/B]
that would be cool to, and be usable for things outside the HLP movie, like other renders. i'm willing to stop my seti client for a rendering one.
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Originally posted by kasperl
agreed, a place where we can discuss politics, but without the resulting flamewar. it think the best way to ahcieve this, is a seperate moderator for this forum, and immediate bans for everyone who goes to far.
Not that I know any better, but isn't this current forum an okay place for that? I mean, assuming people have the right mind-set when they're discussing such things - maybe a new forum with special rules would help, though.
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Originally posted by CP5670
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Number of alt names bumped to 25. Other stuff would take a bit longer, though.
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
Not that I know any better, but isn't this current forum an okay place for that? I mean, assuming people have the right mind-set when they're discussing such things - maybe a new forum with special rules would help, though.
nope as soon as anything even remotely political it is inexplicetly been banned
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Not necessarily. Some have died natural deaths- it all really depends on whether it becomes a flamewar and the mood of the admins.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Boobies!... and more models/mini campaiagns ;7
B00z3! More bettar topics. Politcal threads banned. b00bi3z!
FTP access and Emails for DatDB. :D
Perver strikes again. Jeez man, do you think about female body parts all the time or.....? :shaking: :nervous:
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
A Freespace movie that actually gets animated;7
We could set up something like SETI, where everyone's PC pitches in to render it.
*Cracks fingers* Somebody called for a renderer? *With a SC Ghost like voice*
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what do you think of the text-game idea. with a nifty interface and some cool art it would rock. who here knows php or cgi or something of the sort??
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ok so far then we have:
Campaigns to get realeased
Models
Minimod series
Text based game, se NWGA, it's Shrike's baby, maybe you could get some graphics stuff worked out with him. If that isn't for you talk to Styxx, he has a pretty neat one that he plays
a movie......this sounds fun, i would be willing to do a few things for this project. My question is though, do we render it, or use the movie maker provided by xp? Well we can figure that out once we decide what we want to do as a community.
a seti type project......i think we would need it for the movie
a fred group. Basically a Mission builder's guild
i would like to see some people get together and write a tutorial to add to the fred tutorial, the new one would simply be a "how to" manual for the stuff released in the source code project.
A debate Forum
and Stealth would like a few parking tickets to be erased. 64 tickets in 12 states. not sure if we can do that Stealth.
ok who would be willing to partake in one or more of these projects? If you elect to particiapate in something please divulge one(s).
My areas of interest in this are :
Campaigns, minimods, Fred Guild, Movie, Seti.
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Originally posted by Razor
Perver strikes again. Jeez man, do you think about female body parts all the time or.....? :shaking: :nervous:
Uhm, what guy that hasn't gone through puberty doesn't?
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:confused:
I think you messed up your sentence :p
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
Text based game, se NWGA, it's Shrike's baby, maybe you could get some graphics stuff worked out with him. If that isn't for you talk to Styxx, he has a pretty neat one that he plays
If you mean Librawars, I'm pretty sure that's been dead, cremated and mourned for already...
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
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I think you messed up your sentence :p
:nod:
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Campaigns, definitely.
I'm doing this with my campaign, cos it's gonna take years to finish it otherwise. It's not especially mod-heavy (though I do hope there will be some), but I'm making it with one of my mates from school, and we're slightly busy with A-level coursework at the moment. I'm going to see if we can get Chapter One (of three) done in the next two or three weeks (it'll be on the website when it's done :thepimp: ).
There definitely needs to be some resource-consolidation going on, because there are an awful lot of campaigns in progress (the campaigns thread had 365 replies last time I checked) which will never see the light of day.:(
The FRED guild thing would be good as well - it's one of the few things I'm at all competant at! Count me in.:yes:
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OK so who would head the areas up? Razor is aperantly gung ho about the Movie and Seti type Idea.
Pyro is aperantly wanting the fredding guild.
There are only a few things i can do with any of these ideas. My plate is pretty full, but may be clearing out a little, I'd be willing to target the fredding guild, and see about maybe getting some interest in Mini mods.
as far as the movie goes, i would love to see it, but i am not sure how useful i would be.
Maybe if we can Garner enough interest in these plus the modelers guild, we would warrant a few forums. Modding is all encompassing, but sub forums such as fredding and Modelling, if we have the interest to warrant them would get my official Okie Dokey.
The Movie would definately be something we would want to look at for a forum, maybe even an internal one.
We just seem to be growing stagnant while we wait for mods to be released, Casualties got released, and that is a good thing, but we need more of this type of Mod, i am working on one, probably two mini mods.
Something to look forward to in the short term is a good thing.
Just throwing out some ideas.
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for the whole text based game thing- stop thinking so small! We have several able programmers, lets write our own complete game!
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wasnt that what fifth sun was?
i think the key is for it to be browser based and for all the players to be participating in the same world (massively multiplayer)
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how about we make FS massivley multiplayer? I suggested this earlier in the FS General forum.
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Speaking of "What do you want", I'd also like the entire Babylon 5 series on DVD. They don't show the series here. :(
Okay, sorry :nervous:
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Multiplayer is what the source code guys are doing. as far as anything else goes......it would appear that those of us with full plates will still be the ones doing everything here.
So then what this thread has really amounted to is a place where people can tell everyone what they want, but then be apathetic about helping to make it happen. Not at all what i had hoped for, but ok i guess.
Pyro....if you want to do the fredding guild add me to ICQ, or let me know what messenger you have. And maybe we can both add something else to our plates.