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Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 03:08:09 pm
As the title says really... my monitor now only shows the color red over everything, the problem is in the cable since pulling the cable up vertically hard causes the problem to cease - however I can't hold it in place and use it at the same time... a solution is needed, is it possible to completely replace monitor cables? (as far as I know they're kinda built into them so it looks like a specialist job...) Cheers guys!
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Styxx on March 05, 2003, 03:10:38 pm
Use duct tape. Or kill yourself, that's always a way out.

:D

Now really, don't try to replace the cable yourself. Just take the damn thing to a technician, it seems like quite a simple problem to me.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 03:11:29 pm
Possible - but not exactly permenant - or at least a long term solution... (the duct tape, not killing myself :p) any other ideas?
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Hippo on March 05, 2003, 03:11:34 pm
I had this problem with bright blue, Gateway said i needed a new monitor, and most aren't under warrentee... sry man...
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 03:12:38 pm
Mine won't be - it's second hand from an old friend - I've had it for a good 5+ years now.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Styxx on March 05, 2003, 03:12:45 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Possible - but not exactly permenant - or at least a long term solution... (the duct tape, not killing myself :p) any other ideas?


Come on, the best permanent solutions are always the ones involving duct tape.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Shrike on March 05, 2003, 03:13:13 pm
Another computer problem in ThunderLandâ„¢......

Go with duct tape. :p
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 03:14:38 pm
Hmm.... so it would seem! That said I've spent the day installing my stuff in a swanky new Antec Plusview 1000 AMG case, it's *****in' However the monitor problem remains... does anyone know of any way at all to sort it other than duct tape? And I'm talking new cables here :)
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 03:33:21 pm
If you know your way around electronics, just power down the moniter and open it up. You either have a worn wire within the main cable or one of the connectors has worked it's way loose. The hard part will be finding the problem, the fix depending on the location of the flaw is fairly easy.

Plus you CAN purchase a replacement cable,...just depending on the moniter as to just how simple or a complete pain in the ass it will be to replace.
Example my old moniter the cable hit a breakout box where it entered the moniter housing, then twisted through the housing using up TEN freaking feet of wire and connected at varies locations.

heh that's why now I buy my moniters at the county surplus sales,.....$10 for a 17 inch moniter that's less than a year old :D I break a wire just toss the POS and get a new one ;)
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 05, 2003, 03:37:54 pm
The cable's probably for ****. If the problem's at the computer end of the cable, try screwing it in better, checking the pins, etc.- this happens relatively commonly (I get it occasionally, due to the fact that my monitor cable's hanging about an inch above the ground where people like to put their feet.), but all it takes is a little common sense to fix

If the problem's at the monitor end, you probably pulled a couple wires loose already inside the monitor, and you're gonna have to take a screwdriver to the casing to fix anything. Duct tape is not a solution, you'll probably end up yanking out the rest of the wires.
Title: Re: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Alikchi on March 05, 2003, 03:42:56 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
As the title says really... my monitor now only shows the color red over everything, the problem is in the cable since pulling the cable up vertically hard causes the problem to cease - however I can't hold it in place and use it at the same time... a solution is needed, is it possible to completely replace monitor cables? (as far as I know they're kinda built into them so it looks like a specialist job...) Cheers guys!



This happened to mine, except I lost red and it only showed blue. I ended up buying a new cable. What probably happened is one of the pins broke.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 03:56:38 pm
It's not that - I mean I get the impression the pins are intact - because I've now ghetto fixed the problem by pushing the computer slightly closer to the wall it's infront of - the cable is held up in place without wire or tape (thank god) however letting it drop back down causes it to go back to just showing red... I'll drop by my local hardware store and see if they stock spare cables (I doubt they're much different from one model to the next really). I'd rather not spend to much time/hassle on this thing if I can help it.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 03:59:45 pm
I'd still check those pins. If it's just the slightest bit unsitted the "Ghetto" method will work,..but the problem will only get worse. And it'll suck that much more when you pay for a cable ,..open it up to replace it and find out the cable wasnt the problem.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Turnsky on March 05, 2003, 04:00:10 pm
he's right, try replacing your monitor cable they're not that expensive.. (compared to the monitor)
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 04:01:58 pm
Ok, I just hope it's an easy operation... I don't see many ways of getting "into" this thing...
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 04:07:47 pm
If you set it screen down in a chair you should,....SHOULD,...find about 4-6 holes going from 1 - 3 inches deep before getting to the screw itself, which is half the pain if you don't have a line thin Phillips laying around.  Most of the time the majority will be on the back of the screen itself right about where it narrows down from the Cath. Tube into the main compartment.

As for replacing the cable....could be easy,...but could be rough...no way of knowing until you get into it. Also do yourself a favor and look up the make/model online. IIRC when I looked into replaced a cable on my old moniter, it was like $30 for the damned thing.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: beatspete on March 05, 2003, 04:14:53 pm
So no duct tape.... Electrical tape?  Its just as useful: you can use it for everything from holding on a medical dressing, to keeping up you football socks. Plus it comes in prettier colours than duct tape.


:nervous: Err, i mean, get a new cable like the other folk said.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Thorn on March 05, 2003, 04:47:44 pm
P.I.M.S.R.
Physical Impulse Mechanical Stress Routine...
thats what I did to my old one when it started to change colors randomly...
Title: Re: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Razor on March 05, 2003, 04:53:46 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
As the title says really... my monitor now only shows the color red over everything, the problem is in the cable since pulling the cable up vertically hard causes the problem to cease - however I can't hold it in place and use it at the same time... a solution is needed, is it possible to completely replace monitor cables? (as far as I know they're kinda built into them so it looks like a specialist job...) Cheers guys!


Been there saw that, fixed that.

Look this might be the problem. The pins on the end of the cable that get inside the monitor graphix slot may be dammaged. Maybe one of them is even bent so you have to put it back into her previous state. Just be carefull not to twist it back too hard or else you will be stuck with seeing red on it for the rest of your life (or for some time)
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Razor on March 05, 2003, 04:56:52 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx


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Use duct tape :D


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Go with duct tape. :p


You guys have played too much Derelict in the last couple of days.  Is duct tape all you think about?
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: SKYNET-011 on March 05, 2003, 05:27:08 pm
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Monitor Cable Problems... Help!


It's working... :drevil:

Just kidding... :nervous:
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Galemp on March 05, 2003, 05:28:57 pm
DUDE. I wouldn't recommend opening the monitor. You accidently touch that capacitor and you're DEAD.

I had the same problem with my old monitor, only blue and yellow showed up. I was told it was cheaper to buy a new monitor than to fix my old one, particularly if it's 5 years old.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 05, 2003, 06:14:22 pm
Meh, capacitators are a lot less dangerous than they're made out to be. Like most things, really. I've taken apart a fair share of power supplies (with the huge 250 and 300 volt capacitators), even unsoldered the capacitators themselves for other projects, and never had a problem- I'm sure some of them are STILL charged.

Basically, unless you touch BOTH terminals simultaneously, and aren't, say, resting your arm on the shielding, so that your body IS the easiest route for the electricity to travel through, you'll never get a spark. So phenomenally stupid, near-unconscious people should stay away from monitors, yes. But that applies to electronics in general. Or heavy machinery. Or anything more complex and "risky" than a pencil.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 05, 2003, 06:55:01 pm
Heh, I know what you mean - took the 350W PSU on my computer apart to clean the crud out of it (so dusty!) and shocked myself. But then I've been shocked by the mains supply of my house, and a traffic light once. Not that that makes me to good to get hurt - but at least I realise the risks of touching electrics.

Unfortunately I like this monitor to much to want to just chuck it away - it's a decent 20 inch monitor for graphics and such and it's been the best monitor I've ever seen running for some time now - I can't afford its equal in todays terms. I'd rather try and fix it (or get someone to fix it for me) if I can, rather than buy a new one.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 06:57:18 pm
Heh reminds me of my Search Light class during AIT, I set my O-Scope lead on the top strut of my workbench,...someone bumped into it and the damned thing fell right into the main cap, right across the leads. POOF The lead was a puddle and the scope became a fog machine :)

But then again ... those things were rated at 1 Million Volts ;7


Anyways Stryke's correct, as long as you dont TRY to grab it, or you're dump enough to stick your hand into a moniter with a metal braclet hanging on your wrist,...you're pretty safe.

Just do pay attention to any decals with words like :

Warning
Do Not Touch
No Licking

etc
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 06:59:50 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Heh, I know what you mean - took the 350W PSU on my computer apart to clean the crud out of it (so dusty!) and shocked myself. But then I've been shocked by the mains supply of my house, and a traffic light once. Not that that makes me to good to get hurt - but at least I realise the risks of touching electrics.
 


Heh thats basically a tickle :)

Wait,... my bad forgot you guys have a different standard house power than 120VAC like here :D
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Thorn on March 05, 2003, 07:03:14 pm
You have to be careful touching the metal prongs on the monitor cable... not the power, the 25 pin (or however many it is) one...
There was enough charge in it to make my hand numb...
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 05, 2003, 07:25:29 pm
Eh, you start to like it after the hundredth or so time. Kinda a rush.:D
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 07:41:26 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Eh, you start to like it after the hundredth or so time. Kinda a rush.:D


LOL My first day in AIT, the basic electronics course,...first time oneof the soldiers started falling asleep,...the teacher tossed him a fully charged cap :) He woke up rather quickly lol


Although the funniest one,... in basic troubleshooting course, one of the guys crossed his meter on a relay and sparked himself a bit,.. don't ask me how,.. but it set his digital watch BACK 2 hours.
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 05, 2003, 08:06:38 pm
Eh, I remember when I started experimenting with AC. Took a crappy cord, apliced it onto a something like 120v motor, and plugged it in. Ouch.

At least my house has circuit breakers rather than fuses. I was thinking of, on my last day of school, getting a huge coil and doing the same- with someone else holding it, of course.:D
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Warlock on March 05, 2003, 08:08:12 pm
LOL
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Sandwich on March 06, 2003, 02:07:47 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Heh, I know what you mean - took the 350W PSU on my computer apart to clean the crud out of it (so dusty!) and shocked myself. But then I've been shocked by the mains supply of my house, and a traffic light once.



Ahhh - now I understand the avatar. :drevil: :nervous: :drevil:
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Fineus on March 06, 2003, 03:24:19 am
Hehe, no I got lucky an each case - on the PSU I was only sticking two fingers in (to clean the dust out.. using a paper towel type stuff IIRC..) and with the mains power I was putting a plug in the socket - was touching the +/- on the plug terminals with the tips of the fingers that were wrapped round the plug. But there was no physical way I could've jerked and grabbed the thing... so again no electricution for me :D
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Turnsky on March 06, 2003, 03:32:38 am
meh, 240v going up your right arm is a lotta fun :blah: (actually happened to me Twice )

but i've seen a guy put a 12v (dc) lab power supply to his braces once intentionally.. Anyone remember jaws from those james bond movies (when 007 puts the lamp to jaws' teeth) well that's what it looked like..
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Styxx on March 06, 2003, 06:48:16 am
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Originally posted by Warlock
But then again ... those things were rated at 1 Million Volts ;7


* Dr. Evil *

One million volts!! :drevil:
Title: Monitor Cable Problems... Help!
Post by: Turnsky on March 06, 2003, 04:23:01 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx


* Dr. Evil *

One million volts!! :drevil:


hmm, just enough to start my computer :D