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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: DragonClaw on March 08, 2003, 10:42:35 am
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I know I'm DEFINATELY getting Eve when it comes out May 6th. And I know that I'm going to be making a corporation :)
I'm curious if anyone is interested in also getting Eve and perhaps joining the endeavor? I've already got all the basics ironed out, and I'm starting work on a website today.
After it gets a certain size the divisions will be fully developed, I'm thinking around 30 people in size.
Divisions currently thought of:
Human Resouces(responsible for hiring other traders, making contacts, recruiting, and relations with other corporations)
Freight(responsible for carrying resources, mining resources, carrying out various trade requests, and building necessary ship components)
Escort(responsible for escorting members of the freight division, and making sure they arrive at their destination and complete their job.)
Fleet(in the event that the corporation goes to war with another corporation[very likely I hear], the fleet division will be responsible for carrying out attacks and defending major installations)
Each division will have a leader, who I will discuss the basic needs of the corporation with, and the leader will be responsible for telling the members of the division the specific needs to carry out what I said.
I haven't ironed out the EXTREME specifics yet, but I will in time... if anyone is interested(and knows they'll get Eve), please put down your name and what division you would like(and whether or not you want to be a leader of it)
Right now I'm thinking of choosing Galente as the race, seeing as they have the most ships(including 2 battleships and an industrial ship). Thats the latest update on the webpage, so I might be wrong...
Anyway, questions? comments?
p.s. Eve site is : //www.eve-online.com
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Damn, this game realy got my interest! when it comes out here in Holland i'll buy it.
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would we be able to make our own ships?
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I've been beta testing the game for quite some time now. And I must say its really sweet! You can pritty much change in it anything you like. Even you're characters face to the minutest detail. But still make him/her look almost real! When it comes out, I'm definitely buying it! Beta testing it has been a blast!
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Is this a pay per play game or what ?
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i just looked at the website, and sawe the "screenshots". and i don't believe those are ingame, i'm almost shure these things are renders. anyway, i still don't see any system requirements, but i doubt it'll run on my PIII 800 with TNT2 16mb :(
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Originally posted by kasperl
i just looked at the website, and sawe the "screenshots". and i don't believe those are ingame, i'm almost shure these things are renders. anyway, i still don't see any system requirements, but i doubt it'll run on my PIII 800 with TNT2 16mb :(
Even two years ago they were saying GeForce minimum. I thought they were crazy...but GeForce 2's are cheap and GeForce 4's are now middle of the road type of video cards :)
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What will be the basic system requirements for the game?
The minimum hardware requirements will be released closer to launch. At the moment, all we can guarantee is that EVE will require a 3D accelerator card of equal or greater class than NVIDIA GeForce 256.
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i've read that, but i don't know what was better, the GeForce 256, or the TNT2. anyway, i might upgrade in a year or so. and it doesn't include memory or processor specs.
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Originally posted by kasperl
i've read that, but i don't know what was better, the GeForce 256, or the TNT2. anyway, i might upgrade in a year or so. and it doesn't include memory or processor specs.
Geforce 256 is better.
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too bad, :sigh:
but i still don't buy those screenies as ingame, those are just plain rendered, right?
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Originally posted by kasperl
too bad, :sigh:
but i still don't buy those screenies as ingame, those are just plain rendered, right?
They said they're ingame, but that confuses me too... they look pretty good :p
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Yeah, those are ingame... check out some trailers and whatnot if you need it proved...
Amazing I know :)
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Originally posted by Redfang
Geforce 256 is better.
Yeah, but the TNT is like 20x more stable... :doubt:
I had the 256 and I couldn't lauch anything without prompting an error and then crash to the desktop.
The TNT2 has NEVER crashed or given an error :) It kept me happy for several years.
Ow, an I AM buying this game :D
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dunno, my TNT2 gives me some nasty things as well, especially in FS2 multiplayer. not ingame, but during the chat windows it sometimes completely freaks out, kinda wierd actually. it just pastes everything ont op of eachother, and doesn't erase the old image, rather weird. apart from that, it's just freakin' slow compared to the newer stuff these days, but cash is as allways the biggest problem.....
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Yeah, I'd be interested, I'm probably buying the game.... I was trying to get into the beta... but still haven't grrrr.... :p
Oh and I'd like the fleet division ;7 (wouldn't mind being leader too)
EDIT: Ya know this is perfect, you chose the race I wanted too :D (though you can have multi-racial corps I've heard)
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nooooo...not another cool game!!!!
Grrr...torn between Generals, Freelancer, and EVE...
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Aghh... turned out to be busier today and tomorrow than I expected...
Anyone want to have their go at a website for this?
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Originally posted by Warlock
Is this a pay per play game or what ?
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Yeah, $12 a month i think
Any MMOG game that uses the company's servers do that, because they have to pay for bandwidth cost somehow...
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And because they can make gobs and gobs of money charging people not only when they buy it, but for the entire time they play it. It's a brilliant scam, really, especially since whenever someone points out that this is really a ripoff they can always say that rhey really do have to pay for bandwidth and the like. Doesn't explain the other $11.50 a person a month, but it's something.
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i will buy this game
i'll be in the escort division
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
Originally posted by Warlock Is this a pay per play game or what ?
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I'm starting to think not a single person in here knows.
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Originally posted by Warlock
I'm starting to think not a single person in here knows. [/B]
I already answered that if u payed attention to replies...
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Yeah, $12 a month i think
Any MMOG game that uses the company's servers do that, because they have to pay for bandwidth cost somehow...
Mmmm, fair enough, but I'm not sure if I can afford that (no job). It probably won't get any cheaper, will it?
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
Mmmm, fair enough, but I'm not sure if I can afford that (no job). It probably won't get any cheaper, will it?
Doubt it, unless the game gets heavy competition and needs a price reduce. In that case, they'll probably just reduce the cost of the game and not the per-month cost.
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Aghh... turned out to be busier today and tomorrow than I expected...
Anyone want to have their go at a website for this?
If I have some time I could rig up a quickie.... Need some basic info like name, what you want to put and the like.
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
I already answered that if u payed attention to replies...
Damn I've gone blind tonight :wtf:
Anyways I was afraid of that. Never will I pay $50 for a game that I then have to pay per month to play it. Now if it had offline playablity and then charged to play online, I'd be fine with that.
But some how I don't think a game exists that is worth Est. $80 for just three-four months worth of enjoyment. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
If I have some time I could rig up a quickie.... Need some basic info like name, what you want to put and the like.
Name: Hard Light Productions ( :lol: )
For design, perhaps something along the lines of one of the webpages I made for a Darkspace fleet(even tho it sucks)
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ott/dragonclaw/ia/
I hope you can make something better than that, because I'm not at all happy with my own website lol
What it'll need is just a division list, a roster, a temp constitution page(that'll consist of rules and whatnot), and whatever else you can think of.
[edit] here's a quickie logo that i made up from screenshots and a little Photoshop editting, not happy with this either but if you can make it look good in a website use it if you want
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ott/dragonclaw/hlplogo.jpg)
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I might be interested in playing
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Originally posted by Warlock
Never will I pay $50 for a game that I then have to pay per month to play it.
Ditto. :sigh: :doubt: :no:
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MEH, they should make it like Darkspace. Free d/l + free trial (can fly in small scouts for an unlimited amount of time) but it costs 10$ a month to play in the big ships and to gain rank.
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Originally posted by Tiara
MEH, they should make it like Darkspace. Free d/l + free trial (can fly in small scouts for an unlimited amount of time) but it costs 10$ a month to play in the big ships and to gain rank.
That does sound fair. :nod:
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Same thing with Jumpgate. Free d/l, first 10 days for free, then about 10$/month or 25$/3 months.
(I'm hooked btw. :D)
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A few Darkspace screenies to show that its worth the ten bucks:
These are ALL in-game
Cruiser cruisin'
(http://www.darkspace.net/shots/shots/020808/00000074.jpg)
Dread cruisin'
(http://www.darkspace.net/shots/shots/010924/00000051.jpg)
Battle:
(http://www.darkspace.net/shots/shots/010917/shots_010605_00000046.jpg)
Navigation Screen:
(http://www.darkspace.net/shots/shots/010917/shots_010531_00000014.jpg)
www.Darkspace.net
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Originally posted by Gortef
(I'm hooked btw. :D)
TRAITOR!!!! GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
;)
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Lol Tiara get some screenshots from the more recent updates... those are all REALLY old.
I'm a Fleet Admiral btw :)
*zooms around in a station, jumps on top of a scout and POW*
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Meh, couldn't find newwer ones. I just uninstalled the thing cause a new computer is in order (wednesday :D). But not too much has changed
(Ow, and I'm only 2nd Rear Admiral, but I haven't played in a while.)
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i buy EVE
with my friends we are forming military Group
Order of Power
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Yeah, $12 a month i think
not gonna get it then. only game I'm willing to get that works like that is world of warcraft.
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Originally posted by Tiara
These are ALL in-game
that's pretty obvious :p
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Phew, got the general scheme of the website done....
The navbar still doesn't work (too lazy to get the image maps working yet) but you can get the general idea of the layout. Credits to Steak for the nifty HLP logo.
www.cyberberry.com/kamikaze/HLP-eve/index.html
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Phew, got the general scheme of the website done....
The navbar still doesn't work (too lazy to get the image maps working yet) but you can get the general idea of the layout. Credits to Steak for the nifty HLP logo.
www.cyberberry.com/kamikaze/HLP-eve/index.html
Cool - nice on the eyes, simple layout, yet not simplistic. :yes:
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Whoa, yeah, real good... Bah, steak always has had that knack for doing art with nice flowing colors :p
Is that menu art piece supposed to be in hte table below it or not? Can't really tell atm...
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Originally posted by Sandwich
TRAITOR!!!! GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
;)
*runs to Lapland*
Try to find me! :ha:
:D
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Originally posted by Gortef
*runs to Lapland*
Try to find me! :ha:
:D
*reads Tiara's book*
*nukes lapland*
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Good boy! You are a fast learner :D
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Originally posted by Sandwich
*reads Tiara's book*
*nukes lapland*
:lol:
You nuked Lapland! You nuked Santa Claus too you bastard :shaking: :D
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Originally posted by Gortef
You nuked Lapland! You nuked Santa Claus too you bastard :shaking: :D
Nope: See here - a closer inspection of that nuke's video footage revealed a figure zooming by the camera for a split second:
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Yeah, I warned him. He's giving me new nukes for christmas!!:drevil:
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Originally posted by Tiara
Yeah, I warned him. He's giving me new nukes for christmas!!:drevil:
Awww...! How sweet!
:nervous:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :nervous: :shaking:
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Anyone knows if there'll be any way of creating independent servers? Like on Ultima Online?
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Originally posted by Styxx
Anyone knows if there'll be any way of creating independent servers?
I know there won't be in Lapland anymore, bud. :D
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darkspace becomes booring agfter 2 months of playing and 5 times of hacking through a ban :p
and eve will be cheaper
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Originally posted by Ashrak
darkspace becomes booring agfter 2 months of playing and 5 times of hacking through a ban :p
and eve will be cheaper
How's it going to be cheaper if you have to buy the game itself,..THEN pay $12 a month ?
Lessee :
$50 to get game + $12 a month to play
vs
$0 to get game + $10 a month to play
even if they gave Eve away as a free download $10 a month is cheper than $12 :P
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hmm freelancer sayd
-600 MHz processor
-1.3 GB free hard disk space
- need dx 9
have a
450mhz
installed only 1gb
runing dx 8.1
=
playd thru game in 42 hours or something like that
if eve is as generous with its requirements im in :D
btw styxx i dont think independent servers would work since its 1 big big big universe
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Originally posted by Fetty
- need dx 9
:wtf:
:nervous:
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Originally posted by Warlock
How's it going to be cheaper if you have to buy the game itself,..THEN pay $12 a month ?
Lessee :
$50 to get game + $12 a month to play
vs
$0 to get game + $10 a month to play
even if they gave Eve away as a free download $10 a month is cheper than $12 :P
lemmme see
Darkspace-
-80% of mods are morons Tael is the major jackass
-UGTO dread looks like a male genetalia
-The game graphix suck in general
-2 D universe
- SMALL universe
- Crappy ping
EVE-
-Kick ass ship designs
-4 races
-Very detailed micromanagment
-a ****LOAD more players
-Graphix kick even the ass of IG3
dont want to buy it there is always sharereactor.com 12 bucks 10 bucks hmmmmmm WOW thats a big difference if just wow thats like 20 kroons more than darkspace a freakyng chokolate bar kosts 20 kr
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and that makes the cost cheaper ?
Now if you said the game was simply better,....I could see the point, but none of that affects if it's any cheaper.
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Mmmm, Sandwich accuses Thunder of derailing his topic... then what happens? Ah, the irony... :lol:
The game does include a free month though, so that's good...
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Mmmm, Sandwich accuses Thunder of derailing his topic... then what happens? Ah, the irony... :lol:
Hey! I didn't derail it! I just blew it up! :lol:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Hey! I didn't derail it! I just blew it up! :lol:
Good argument, but I'd have to say you did both :D
Mmmm, I think it might be a good idea to make another forum for something like this, it'll own j00!
On a totally unrelated topic, does anyone else think Aida from Unreal II is hot? I must be into virtual characters... hehhe
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Mmmm, I think it might be a good idea to make another forum for something like this, it'll own j00!
Define "this". :wtf:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Define "this". :wtf:
Stop using that smilie on me!! Arghhh!
"This"=corporation, or perhaps Eve in general... great game imo, though it has no modding potential.
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Stop using that smilie on me!! Arghhh!
"This"=corporation, or perhaps Eve in general... great game imo, though it has no modding potential.
Ahh. Hmm, well even if it takes off, like you said: "It has no modding potential". Which is what HLP is about. So: :wtf:
:D
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ahh. Hmm, well even if it takes off, like you said: "It has no modding potential". Which is what HLP is about. So: :wtf:
:D
Well a forum would help for communication within the corporation, considering CCP won't provide individual forum subsections for guilds there(don't blame them, with so many people...)
Originally posted by Sandwich
:wtf:
:shaking: :sigh:
:mad2:
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Well a forum would help for communication within the corporation, considering CCP won't provide individual forum subsections for guilds there(don't blame them, with so many people...)
Ok then. Get a minyan, and we'll consider it. :D
Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
:shaking: :sigh:
:mad2:
See other :wtf: thread. :D
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok then. Get a minyan, and we'll consider it. :D
What does that have to do with the price of beans in China?
I think you just went crazy :p
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
What does that have to do with the price of beans in China?
I think you just went crazy :p
A minyan is a triditional Jewish prayer group composed of ten men. All I meant was that if there is some actual support for this idea in semi-significant numbers, we'll consider the idea. :D
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Originally posted by Sandwich
A minyan is a triditional Jewish prayer group composed of ten men. All I meant was that if there is some actual support for this idea in semi-significant numbers, we'll consider the idea. :D
I see... well... we already have ... umm... 5 people? :D
That's enough, isn't it??? :nervous:
*puppy dog face*
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
I see... well... we already have ... umm... 5 people? :D
That's enough, isn't it??? :nervous:
*puppy dog face*
:ha:
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Originally posted by Styxx
Anyone knows if there'll be any way of creating independent servers? Like on Ultima Online?
You do know those are... illegal, don't you?
Originally posted by Fetty
btw styxx i dont think independent servers would work since its 1 big big big universe
Are you saying that there'll be only one server and everyone who plays the game will be on the same server? If so, it should be fun to see how it turns out...
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Originally posted by Tiara
A few Darkspace screenies to show that its worth the ten bucks:
Good graphics hardly justify paying a monthly fee of 10 bucks. Good gameplay does.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Good graphics hardly justify paying a monthly fee of 10 bucks. Good gameplay does.
Well, it has good gameplay
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DS sucks
lets make a Freelancer server on hlp :p
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Originally posted by Ashrak
DS sucks
No, it doesn't... Well after 2 months straight it does. But when you stop playing/paying, your profile is saved. Once you start again, you won't lose rank or anything. You can take a break anytime you want.
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if you dont log in in 90 days your profile will be deleeted
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
What does that have to do with the price of beans in China?
I think you just went crazy :p
No he didn't, I'm still me and he's still him :D
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Originally posted by Levyathan
You do know those are... illegal, don't you?
Ah, they are? Sorray then. :p
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Ok to those who ARE interested... I'd like to ask what division you would like HLP to fall under:
Science
Military
Trade
Security
Datamining
Exploration
Those are the choices I believe. There might be a miscallaneous option as well, that lets you do any and all... not exactly sure how it works. I sent in an app for a corporation now though.
My vote would go to Military, Hard Light Productions just seems to fit into the military sense well in my opinion. Wouldn't fit in the others very well.
Your thoughts?
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
My vote would go to Military, Hard Light Productions just seems to fit into the military sense well in my opinion.
Hard Light Productions - We maek teh beams taht hert tings!!
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I'd say Exploration or Military... more action that way ;7
'bout the site, the little dashed section under the navbar is kinda useless right now (purely for decoration) so I think I'll make a small text version of the navbar under the "real" navbar so people using text-only browsers can actually use the site.
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Ah well, I've tried my own hand at doing a site... here's what i got so far out of a layout...
[edit]Updated[/edit]
This is straight off my computer atm...
I can't seem to get my redirect to work AFTER the images preload, if someone can help me with that it would be appreciated.
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I made a completely new layout... its loosely based off another corporation's website... PLEASE give me opinions this time on the layout+graphics
http://hardlight.zapto.org/
If anyone wants to help out in any way, plz try =]
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Hmm, I noticed in my logs that a lot of people are getting 404 errors... funny... try going to a direct link:
http://hardlight.zapto.org/index.php
or
http://hardlight.zapto.org/index.html (redirects you to index.php)
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ok military is good.....
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Hmm, I noticed in my logs that a lot of people are getting 404 errors... funny... try going to a direct link:
http://hardlight.zapto.org/index.php
or
http://hardlight.zapto.org/index.html (redirects you to index.php)
I find that I consistently have to try loading the link twice before it will load - on the 2nd time it loads quite fine, though.
About the design: I really like it, with one or two points that could be improved:
- Too many colors; the intense blue in the top-right, or the nicer (IMHO) grayish-green of the page bottom, but not both. :) Also, there's a bunch of different colors you use for text... try and lower it to two or three colors.
- I like the HLP graphic you made, especially the contrast between the logo's red theme and the blue glow you gacve it - nice touch. But try to include something that indicates that this is not THE Hard Light Productions... ;) Also with the top graphic, I'd recommend making it less wide, and moving the nebula further to the left. That way you can place a repeating background image of plain stars in the header section, with no discernable break between the header pic and the BG.
But all in all, quite nice. :) (Grids are Cool)
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Thanks for the reply sandwich... I'll try and change the top graphic to coincide with a color change
Anyway, I think I got the load problem fixed, so it _should_ load on the first time now...
http://hardlight.zapto.org/
Now, anyone else interested?
And, just curious, does anyone know of a good _free_(unless someone else wants to pay) PHP host, that has FTP access? Would be very useful as I can not leave my computer on 24/7 7 days a week...
And, if anyone in beta has an extra beta invite or 2, I could really use one... I've already signed up, but I doubt I'll get in, unless through 'darker' means :p
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got into beta played arround and gess what its not even worth playing for free the universe is WAY too big that start you get a crappy ship no guns and a mining laser yay so you going to mine for about 3 hours then you can get a better laser to mine with so its going to take you a year or so to get to the final ship which i think sucks the game is monotonus and slow no manual control what so ever you can only point a direction to go in so my opinning flush it down the toilet
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Originally posted by Ashrak
got into beta played arround and gess what its not even worth playing for free the universe is WAY too big that start you get a crappy ship no guns and a mining laser yay so you going to mine for about 3 hours then you can get a better laser to mine with so its going to take you a year or so to get to the final ship which i think sucks the game is monotonus and slow no manual control what so ever you can only point a direction to go in so my opinning flush it down the toilet
Punctuation is hip.
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Heh didn't even know i got a reply till now.
Anyway, I should have warned you before(thought i did...). People with ADD(attention deficit disorder) will NOT be able to stand this game.
Everyone these days are soooo used to fast-paced, get to lvl 20 in 2 days type bull****.
This game is based on reality in the future... economy is mostly playerrun atm, it takes awhile to get anywhere in progress. I personally started about a week and a half ago in beta, and I already have a Cruiser and medium lasers/projectiles. Why? Corporations! Corporations help players out enormously. Its just the way things work.
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yeah good luck
the purpose of this game is to strech it out as far as you possibly can before u find out its bull****
darkspace on the other hand is get admiral in 3 months and then play another 6 for FA ;)
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Originally posted by Ashrak
yeah good luck
the purpose of this game is to strech it out as far as you possibly can before u find out its bull****
darkspace on the other hand is get admiral in 3 months and then play another 6 for FA ;)
Heh, I played 4 months(3 months and 2 weeks actually) and got FA... then it got boring quick... so thats why I quit DarkSpace.
At least in EVE, teamwork is mandatory basically.
[edit] and btw, the nature of EVE itself repulses the kind of people that like to cause a lot of trouble. soo... the community is actually quite nice. Don't have people swearing left and right and all that other crap that most communities spit out in your face.[/edit]