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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: HotSnoJ on March 16, 2003, 06:34:31 pm

Title: MVE converter! YA
Post by: HotSnoJ on March 16, 2003, 06:34:31 pm

A must to download.

Converts the mve file to a self playing exe.
::Link taken down until further notice:: However if you PM me I'll give you a link

I'm just about done converting every FS2 movie.

LONG LIVE FS2!

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Kamikaze on March 16, 2003, 08:57:30 pm

erk... Interplay won't like this...

For legal issues this should be taken down HotSnoJ...

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: ZylonBane on March 16, 2003, 08:57:48 pm

This isn't a converter, just a wrapper.

I still can't believe noone has reverse-engineered the MVE format yet.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Kamikaze on March 16, 2003, 08:59:18 pm

Does Interplay allow the wrapper then? And while we're on the topic, what's a "wrapper"?

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: HotSnoJ on March 16, 2003, 09:07:12 pm

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Originally posted by Kamikaze
erk... Interplay won't like this...

For legal issues this should be taken down HotSnoJ...

Link taken down.

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I still can't believe noone has reverse-engineered the MVE format yet.

There is scource. It was around the place I got the link.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Joey_21 on March 16, 2003, 09:33:05 pm

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Finder of the MVE converter (PM for details)

:wtf: I've had this converter for just about ever since it came out. This program is old news, really...

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: TheVirtu on March 16, 2003, 09:37:49 pm

Since when did Interplay care about Freespace 2?

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: IceFire on March 16, 2003, 09:58:56 pm

MVE was used on several Interplay games....they are protective of it...last we heard anyways.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Turnsky on March 16, 2003, 11:44:30 pm

which ones? (other than fs series)

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 17, 2003, 01:52:25 am

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Originally posted by Turnsky
which ones? (other than fs series)

The two sequels to Descent, Starfleet Academy, Klingon Academy, etc...

Basically any game published by Interplay since Descent 2.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Fetty on March 17, 2003, 02:07:57 am

makes you wounder why
mve file format sucks

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 17, 2003, 02:10:36 am

Yeah, the video quality blows.  Especially considering the file sizes.  Even bink would've been a better solution....and I *hate* bink.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Fetty on March 17, 2003, 02:13:30 am

me3

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: deep_eyes on March 17, 2003, 07:36:16 am

its basically like that EXE file on the 3rd FS2 cd, of the pilot running thru the long hallway. same thing, the proggy just makes those, so i think altough they would not like this, it doesnt benefit us into say making a custom mve, it just allows us to view it outside of fs2....

adverse reaction?

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Fineus on March 17, 2003, 07:49:43 am

Can we find some way to check with Interplay about this? I mean lets face it - we're not doing anything illegal by watching the movies through a third party viewer. We still have to pay to aquire them - it just saves having to load the original game to watch them at our leasuire, thats no bad thing if you ask me.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: CP5670 on March 17, 2003, 09:34:34 am

If I remember correctly they wanted DNet to remove it because it "made modifications" to their mve files. (by adding in a self-player into them :rolleyes: ) I don't see why it really matters at this point though; I mean, what are they going to do about it? :D Besides, MVEExtract is still being distributed despite Interplay; half the people here (including myself) have it and if anyone needs it you can just dispatch a quick email to someone around here.

The problem with mve is that it is like seven years old now. When it first came out (Descent 2, 1996), it was actually not bad, since the slow CD drive and processor speeds back then meant that heavy compression routines could not be used while still allowing for smooth playback, but times have changed since then. Interplay seems to still think that people are going to try and steal their precious mve format. :p

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: HotSnoJ on March 17, 2003, 03:28:06 pm

So I still shouldn't post a link?

Oh well :lookatsiggy:

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: an0n on March 17, 2003, 03:34:00 pm

Interplay like MVE because the large file-sizes mean it's harder to make full warez copies of their games.

And if people start pulling MVE apart and making things smaller, better and faster then it'll mean their games are more easily pirated.

Thus, they don't like people ****ing with the code.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 17, 2003, 11:36:57 pm

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Originally posted by deep_eyes
its basically like that EXE file on the 3rd FS2 cd, of the pilot running thru the long hallway. same thing, the proggy just makes those, so i think altough they would not like this, it doesnt benefit us into say making a custom mve, it just allows us to view it outside of fs2....

adverse reaction?

Erm....isn't that on the Silent Threat CD?

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 18, 2003, 03:54:52 pm

Technically, the Fallout guys have had a very nice extractor for their MVE format for a long time now, and FO2 is a lot newer than the FS series- and the franchise is still being actively marketed.


By the way, before you check, it really isn't the same format of MVE. I downloaded a copy from No Mutants Allowed in the hopes of getting a good copy, and it was no dice.



For that matter, the FreeSpace MVE wrapper doesn't work too well, either. Keeps whining about some .ocx file.

Title: MVE concerter! YA
Post by: Goober5000 on March 18, 2003, 04:56:36 pm

Here's a question - has anyone reverse-engineered the MVE file specs?  If we knew those, then it might be possible for the SCP team to allow MVEs to be played with fs2_open.

Another tidbit - I don't think that this use of the MVE format would be illegal.  I think there's a precedent for this; some video game company reverse-engineered Nintendo's cartridge encryption back in the 1980s so that their players could play Nintendo's games.  The court ruled that this fell under "fair use".  Anyone have more information on this?


EDIT: Yeah, here we go... http://www.lgu.com/cr46.htm

Can this apply to our situation?


EDIT2: Put this in its own thread.