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Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: SKYNET-011 on March 18, 2003, 04:06:45 pm
Anyone know where I can get a Midi to Wav converter?
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: elorran on March 18, 2003, 04:32:33 pm
You can't.

You can only conventionally record the midi file as it plays.

The reason for this is that a midi file isn't actually a music file, it's just a set of instructions that tells your sound card how to play the music (hence the reason midi files sound different depending on the sound card).  It is the sound card that produces the music rather than just playing it from a digital file.

It is possible that there may be a software synthesiser program out there somewhere capable of synthing the midi file into it's musical form and then converting that into another format such as wave.  But I don't know of such a program so can't really help you there.

As I said before, your best bet is to try recording the midi file while it is playing (asuming that you have the programs and that your sound card can play an record at the same time).
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: CP5670 on March 18, 2003, 04:34:45 pm
I have never seen anything that does this; as elorran said, the best method here is to simply play and record the file simultaneously. Most soundcards (SBLive, for one) I have seen can directly recieve input from the synthesizer with an appropriate setting in the recording properties window.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sandwich on March 18, 2003, 04:38:16 pm
Easy: Winamp 2.x. Options > Preferences... > Plug-ins > Output > Nullsoft Disk Writer plug-in. Choose to configure it, select the directory to store the file in, choose "convert to:" PCM, 44.100kHz, 16 bit, Stereo. Output File mode: Force WAV file.

Open and play the MIDI you want, making sure to turn off repeat! Otherwise, it will play it again and again, taking up enormous amounts of HDD space.

Also, make sure it's the only thing in the playlist, for the same reason as above.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: elorran on March 18, 2003, 04:43:08 pm
Doesn't work.  Midi files aren't digital audio they are simply instruction files for your sound cards midi chip (midi chips are what make music keyboards work).
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sandwich on March 18, 2003, 04:44:35 pm
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Originally posted by elorran
Doesn't work.  Midi files aren't digital audio they are simply instruction files for your sound cards midi chip (midi chips are what make music keyboards work).


Gah - you're right, apparently. I tested it, and I didn't get any file. :-/
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: ZylonBane on March 18, 2003, 05:29:49 pm
Just to clarify, it doesn't work with WinAmp. Recording from your sound program of choice does work though.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Stealth on March 18, 2003, 10:14:02 pm
it's possible, but using a different method (though Sandwich's first attempt was what i was going to say ;) )

go to www.download.com and search for "TOTAL RECORDER" in 'downloads'.

download it
open the file
install the program
open the program

now make sure all programs using sound are closed.  press 'record'... now play the MIDI.  TOTAL RECORDER detects the sound coming out of your speakers, and starts recording.  i don't think it stops though, i can't remember.

*note to everyone:*
total recorder records everything... game sounds, etc.  so it can be useful for cutscenes, etc.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 18, 2003, 11:14:55 pm
The only way I know how to do it is to set your recording source from microphone to MIDI via the recording options in Volume Control.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sandwich on March 19, 2003, 03:06:30 am
Ok, I figured out how. Double-click on the volume ontrol in the taskbar.  The Play Control dialog should pop-up. Options > Properties > Adjust volume for: set to Recording. Make sure MIDI is checked in the "Show the following volume controls" display below. Click Ok.

In the new Record Control, select the MIDI Balance channel, and place the volume level somewhere in the middle.

Open up Start > Programs > Accessories > Entertainment > Sound Recorder (or your WAV recorder of choice). Load up the MIDI file in Winamp or whatever player you want to use. Hit the record button, and start Winamp playing.

NOTE: My Sound Recorder seems only capable of recording 60 seconds of sounds, so you may want something a bit more capable. Anything should do.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Stealth on March 19, 2003, 10:37:08 am
but my way will worktoo ;)
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: ZylonBane on March 19, 2003, 12:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
but my way will worktoo ;)
You can also use an elephant gun to kill a gnat.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 19, 2003, 01:00:47 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, I figured out how. Double-click on the volume ontrol in the taskbar.  The Play Control dialog should pop-up. Options > Properties > Adjust volume for: set to Recording. Make sure MIDI is checked in the "Show the following volume controls" display below. Click Ok.

In the new Record Control, select the MIDI Balance channel, and place the volume level somewhere in the middle.

Open up Start > Programs > Accessories > Entertainment > Sound Recorder (or your WAV recorder of choice). Load up the MIDI file in Winamp or whatever player you want to use. Hit the record button, and start Winamp playing.

NOTE: My Sound Recorder seems only capable of recording 60 seconds of sounds, so you may want something a bit more capable. Anything should do.


Is that not what I said earlier?
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sesquipedalian on March 19, 2003, 01:10:19 pm
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Originally posted by Vertigo1


Is that not what I said earlier?
Yes, just in more detail.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sandwich on March 19, 2003, 04:10:17 pm
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Yes, just in more detail.


:nod:
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: IceFire on March 19, 2003, 08:14:25 pm
Unless your running it through a really nice synth, its still going to largely sound like the garbage that general MIDI is.  Now sometimes its pretty good and heck I still pull out a ole WC2 MIDI for nostalga's sake...but its just not like a nice digitally recorded MP3.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: elorran on March 20, 2003, 06:42:34 am
True, but some midi's just sound great on the right sound card.  The feelings just something that you can't replace even with MP3.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Stunaep on March 20, 2003, 06:59:57 am
Google is your friend:

http://www.midi2wav.com/

http://www.audiohero.com/midi_to_wav.htm   - I recommend, having used it myself
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: ZylonBane on March 20, 2003, 10:25:54 am
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Originally posted by elorran
True, but some midi's just sound great on the right sound card.  The feelings just something that you can't replace even with MP3.
Oh yes it is! :drevil:
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: CP5670 on March 20, 2003, 10:38:47 am
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Unless your running it through a really nice synth, its still going to largely sound like the garbage that general MIDI is.  Now sometimes its pretty good and heck I still pull out a ole WC2 MIDI for nostalga's sake...but its just not like a nice digitally recorded MP3.


My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Sandwich on March 20, 2003, 04:50:31 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670


My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.


Oh yeah, Yamaha's SoftSynth! I used to use that. It was really sweet - I was just disappointed that it didn't work with TIE Fighter. :p
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 21, 2003, 06:41:08 am
That Total Recorder that Stealth posted is limited to 40 seonds of recording, and so is useless.
Title: Midi2Wav
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 22, 2003, 01:34:08 am
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Originally posted by CP5670


My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.


I still say the best sound card from them that has the best MIDI playback is the AWE64.  I've got one in a system next to me (with a fubared mobo).  Pity its ISA though....otherwise I'd still use it. :)
Title: Re: Midi2Wav
Post by: Flaser on December 04, 2009, 02:39:31 am
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Unless your running it through a really nice synth, its still going to largely sound like the garbage that general MIDI is.  Now sometimes its pretty good and heck I still pull out a ole WC2 MIDI for nostalga's sake...but its just not like a nice digitally recorded MP3.

My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.

Yeah I also use that softsynth. (I even have a license that was supplied with a Yamaha soundcard).

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Originally posted by CP5670


My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.

Oh yeah, Yamaha's SoftSynth! I used to use that. It was really sweet - I was just disappointed that it didn't work with TIE Fighter. :p

Have you tried to run TIE Fighter with VDMSound? It can be configured to use the softsynth by default. IIRC I could get it to work in Dosbox too by making the softsynth the default midi device in windows.
Title: Re: Midi2Wav
Post by: BloodEagle on December 04, 2009, 07:42:48 am
Six years.  :ick:
Title: Re: Midi2Wav
Post by: Flipside on December 04, 2009, 07:50:22 am
It's.......Alive! Alive I tell you!

:necro:

:lol: I think that sometimes the search engine still leads newer members astray ;)
Title: Re: Midi2Wav
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 04, 2009, 04:04:22 pm
Especially if they use that google one... :p