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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 03:03:53 am

Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 03:03:53 am
Stuck at home with chicken pox, I felt pretty bored, so I created something in 3D. Played around with Lights, Glow Effects, Loft and some other stuff I forgot already.

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/excellence/Pictures/Renders/SmallRender5.jpg) (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/excellence/Pictures/Renders/Render5.jpg)

Any comments?
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: SKYNET-011 on March 22, 2003, 08:23:26 am
Looks pretty good. :nod:

But there's something about that earth... :blah:
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 08:41:26 am
That's not Earth. And I know what you mean.

It seems to lack an atmosphere right?
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: Fetty on March 22, 2003, 09:03:16 am
the colors id think are more
disturbing
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: Sesquipedalian on March 22, 2003, 12:47:19 pm
Model is cool.  It needs to be retextured, but I'm sure you know that, and the turrets are much much too large.  Otherwise, nice stuff; I like the overall shape a lot.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: J.F.K. on March 22, 2003, 07:28:58 pm
Really cool. :) Maybe you could add a smaller glow in front of the engines in post-production to make them look more realistic. :nod::yes:
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 09:07:30 pm
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Model is cool.  It needs to be retextured, but I'm sure you know that, and the turrets are much much too large.  Otherwise, nice stuff; I like the overall shape a lot.


Well, the problem is that I don't quite know what textures to use. I wanted a metallic and shiny hull but I think it didn't turn out too well. I found the capital ship maps from FreeSpace 2 a bit too dark for me. But they make great Bump Maps.

I was wondering if you could offer any suggestions to soeone who knows little about textures and maps? Something for a capital ship that doesn't make it blend with the blackness of space? Those from Star Trek seem to be quite nice though. I wanted to achieve that effect.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 09:09:38 pm
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
Really cool. :) Maybe you could add a smaller glow in front of the engines in post-production to make them look more realistic. :nod::yes:


Smaller glow? I used Omni Lights with the usual Far and Near Attenuation settings so that they don't add extra shine to the planet and used Len Effects -> Glow and placed the Omnis behind the engines. Occulation was used too so that even though the Omnis are blocked by the engines, their glows would still be visible.

You mean I should reduce the Occulation and Glow size and intensity?
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 09:11:32 pm
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Originally posted by Fetty
the colors id think are more
disturbing


You mean the planet right?
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: Shrike on March 22, 2003, 09:27:51 pm
This was in MAX?  Try using some procedural maps, if you have a well-detailed hull they look very good.

Anyhow, try decreasing the ambient lighting....although that depends if you want a moody shot or not.  If you have strong shadows it'll provide better contrast.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 22, 2003, 10:05:21 pm
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Originally posted by Shrike
This was in MAX?  Try using some procedural maps, if you have a well-detailed hull they look very good.

Anyhow, try decreasing the ambient lighting....although that depends if you want a moody shot or not.  If you have strong shadows it'll provide better contrast.


Er...what do you mean by ambient lighting? I'm pretty new to MAX. And what are procedural maps?
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: Shrike on March 22, 2003, 11:58:40 pm
How many lights did you use?  Cause the scene looks well-lit.

And procedurals are stuff like noise.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 23, 2003, 12:05:19 am
Lights? Minus the ones that are used to illiminate the decals on the ship and the beacon lights and the engine glows, there were two omnis. Because with one, I felt it was a little too dark and so, hard to see the details of the ship. But, before I placed the second Omni, you could actually see the shadows on the hull caused by the turrets. Maybe I will cut down on the Omni then.

Noise for the hull? What good does it do? Any examples? You really got to teach me something man. I'm like a total newbie to 3D.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: Shrike on March 23, 2003, 12:10:25 am
You use a noise texture instead of bitmaps.  It can give some good results.

And if you want multiple lights, I think it looks better if you do have one strong light to give you some visible shadows.
Title: Defender-class Destroyer Test Test
Post by: NeoHunter on March 23, 2003, 12:14:13 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
You use a noise texture instead of bitmaps.  It can give some good results.


Okay. I'll experiment with Noise. If I can find it in the Material Editor...