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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sheepy on March 25, 2003, 12:43:24 pm

Title: new comp?
Post by: Sheepy on March 25, 2003, 12:43:24 pm

Mesh Matrix XP 2400+ TFT
Price: £799 (£939 inc vat)

Processor:
Type: 2GHz AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Front side bus frequency: 133MHx (266MHz)
(equilvent speed)

Motherboard:
Make: Asus A7N8X
Chipset: Nvidia nForce2 SPP
Controller: Nvidia nForce MCP 10/100 ethernet

Memory:
Ram Fitted: 512MB PC2700
Max supported ram: 3GB

Graphics Card:
Make: Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9500 128MB
Chipset: ATi Radeon 9500
Ram Fitted: 128MB DDR
Outputs/Inputs: VGA, DVI, S-Video out

Hard Disk:
Make: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9
Nominal Capcity: 120GB
Formatted Capacity: 114GB
Memory Buffer: 8MB
Speed 7,200 rpm

Monitor: NEC Multisync LCD1550V (15in TFT)
Soundcard: Nvidia nForce Audio (integrated)
Speakers: Creative Inspire 5.1 5300
Mouse: MS IntelliMouse 1.3A
Keyboard: MS MultiMedia Keyboard 1A

Comments?

Title: new comp?
Post by: Galemp on March 25, 2003, 01:57:55 pm

It depends on the specs of your current computer, of course. :nod:

Title: new comp?
Post by: Sheepy on March 25, 2003, 02:31:12 pm

Try a 5 year old comp with 10GB hard drive and a Voodoo 3and some other junk on top :doubt:

Title: new comp?
Post by: vyper on March 25, 2003, 02:50:49 pm

Yes, but change this:
ATi Radeon 9500 ----> to 9700

Title: new comp?
Post by: Fineus on March 25, 2003, 03:18:25 pm

Not sure about the graphics, but the rest looks very respectable on the modern rung of comptuers!

Title: new comp?
Post by: Ryx on March 25, 2003, 03:34:17 pm

Try getting the PRO version of the vid card, if possible. As vyper said, get the 9700 if you can.

Title: new comp?
Post by: Turnsky on March 25, 2003, 04:25:00 pm

and what sort of case are you gonna stuff it in?

Title: new comp?
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2003, 04:51:57 pm

flat panel monitors suck, and for the same price instead of getting a ****ty POS 15" (TFT) you can get a really nice  19" CRT

Flat Panels = Slow Refresh, Low color capabilities (equiv to about 16 bit color), break easily

Title: new comp?
Post by: Odyssey on March 25, 2003, 05:02:58 pm

Break easily... Hmm... But CRT monitors are bulky and much easier to drop... Then they break too ^_^ Not to mention the radiation CRTs give out. Pity I can't actually afford a TFT :( Also, remember that a size of a TFT is actually the equivalent of the next size up in CRT, as all of a TFT's display is viewable.
You can't really talk about refresh rates on TFT monitors, as so long as they're on a DVI connection (or an analogue with a converter thingie, I suppose) they shouldn't have a refresh rate, since they don't scan. However, there is noticeable ghosting as pixels take time to change colour, but this has been getting a lot better recently.

Title: new comp?
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2003, 05:42:30 pm

radiation that CRTs put out.. ROTFLMFAO!  You've been reading too many babblingly idiots

refresh rate != scan rate

refresh rate is the rate at which it actually responds to changes in the singal which the video card is sending - and flat panels are disgustingly slow - and they have the ~16-bit color depth **** going on

Title: new comp?
Post by: silverwolf on March 25, 2003, 06:41:28 pm

i heard nec monitors are not very good onnes. and what about rambus ram or ddr instead of that old pc*input # here* but other than that it looks good

Title: new comp?
Post by: Turnsky on March 25, 2003, 08:04:18 pm

i'm quite happy with my samsung 955df CRT (19")

Title: new comp?
Post by: Kazan on March 25, 2003, 09:11:24 pm

RAMBUS = teh suck

the BEST RAMBUS: 2byte (16bit) * 400mhz = 762.9 megabytes per second
average DDR (PC2100 aka DDR266) = 16byte (128bit) * 133mhz * 2 = 3.9 Gigabytes per second


I may have left one part out of the rambus eqausion because the number looks too low even for rambus -- but even when i remembered the correct exact numbers rambus still blew goats - why do you think intel chipsets are switching to DDR

Title: new comp?
Post by: silverwolf on March 25, 2003, 11:13:21 pm

i was jsut trying to get my point across to get a newer better memory format

Title: new comp?
Post by: Razor on March 26, 2003, 08:15:25 am

Quote

Originally posted by vyper
Yes, but change this:
ATi Radeon 9500 ----> to 9700

No don't change it. You can change 9500 Non Pro to a 9700 like this (http://www.maxdownloads.com/~ian/wizzard/)

Title: new comp?
Post by: Razor on March 26, 2003, 08:17:28 am

Quote

Originally posted by Kazan
RAMBUS = teh suck

Actually thats quite wrong. RAMBUS is a much higher quality memory than DDR it is just that it is expensive.

Title: new comp?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 26, 2003, 08:51:53 am

Of course, if you want a truly excellent machine, try www.alienware.com.

Title: new comp?
Post by: silverwolf on March 26, 2003, 09:02:32 am

lol i wanted one my self till they switched to pentium 4

Title: new comp?
Post by: Kazan on March 26, 2003, 09:47:32 am

alienware sucks balls

razor: i run a computer business and am involved in the desin of the systems, i've been building puters for 6 years additionally - rambus is ****, i have this tendancy to do my homework

Title: new comp?
Post by: Fineus on March 26, 2003, 09:55:46 am

Very impressive, but everyone is entitled to an opinion...

Title: new comp?
Post by: Odyssey on March 26, 2003, 10:28:44 am

Quote

Originally posted by Kazan
radiation that CRTs put out.. ROTFLMFAO!  You've been reading too many babblingly idiots

refresh rate != scan rate

refresh rate is the rate at which it actually responds to changes in the singal which the video card is sending - and flat panels are disgustingly slow - and they have the ~16-bit color depth **** going on

Very assertive of you, but please think a little. Where did I mention dangerous radiation? And you can hardly assume that nothing is going to come out of a cathode ray tube pointing right at your face.
I think you may have only read the first half of my message - I specifically mentioned exactly what I was referring to refresh rates and all that stuff. CRT monitors flash at you, TFTs don't. Simple as that. It's a lot healthier on your eyes to sit in front of something that isn't flashing like a strobe, especially over long periods of time like I, and I assume you, do.

Title: new comp?
Post by: Sheepy on March 26, 2003, 12:46:09 pm

Well it ordered with as there but with a 17" monitor :D so you can stop your whinning :p

Title: new comp?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 26, 2003, 02:08:38 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Kazan
alienware sucks balls

But..but, GREEN! Green cases!

Title: new comp?
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 26, 2003, 08:47:58 pm

Quote

Originally posted by silverwolf
i heard nec monitors are not very good onnes. and what about rambus ram or ddr instead of that old pc*input # here* but other than that it looks good

Psst!

This is an AMD system.  There isn't a single AMD board out there that supports RDRAM.  Thats P4 only.  Do your homework next time, k?