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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Darkage on March 25, 2003, 03:21:20 pm
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I had some fun today playing C&C Generals. USA vs USA:D I won but with some prety big losses. See the pics below:)
These screenies where taken in the last 30min of the match.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/particle.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/particle2.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/city.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/choppers.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/stat.jpg)
On the city pic, thats just a small part that was trashed i think about 80% was destroyed. Took me ages to conquor as i played it on Hard. I am getting better though. I shot the particle cannon 3 times before i had the chance to rampage into there base. Mainly targeted there power stations to disable base defences but those damn LAW soldiers are annoying.
So who more here plays Generals?
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Comanches are teh shiznit. ;)
Picked it up today. :D
Now for that vid card... :drevil:
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Ooooh hehehe... wonder if we could get something like that into FS2.... ;7
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Bah....I got this POS game from a friend Sat,...since his system won't run it,.... and half the time I'll get into a mission and POOF some BS "Sorry you've had a serious error" ,.....and man do not try the Generals forums ..... ack! From what I've read there V gaves us better support on FS2.
Sadly it seems the error is caused by various reason... one of which is if you've got RAM from different companies (Funny I've never had a problem before with varied RAM chips from different manufacturers ) :rolleyes:
Seems while the game works for alot of folks,...there's just as many folks it doesnt,....and little to no responces from EA on the issues. (The error message actually tells you it could be from caused by *Lists 4 reasons* and suggests you read the forums for suggested user fixes.
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I dunno about those problems:)
Seems that there forums are prety fu**ed up.
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Originally posted by Ryx
Comanches are the shiznit. ;)
They sure are when there are not allot of base defences or rocket soldiers, or they fall out of the sky like buckets.
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Dude ... you want to whip ass and take names. .... play as China ... set up a squad of 6 Overlords,... two Gatlings,..Two Bunkered with 5 rockettroopers, 1 Propaganda. Set them as a Team and just roll throw an enemy line,..the gatling versions keep the air cleared,..the bunkers ones whip out anythingon the ground,...and the Propaganda one provides healing bonues to the rest ;)
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Originally posted by Warlock
Dude ... you want to whip ass and take names. .... play as China ... set up a squad of 6 Overlords,... two Gatlings,..Two Bunkered with 5 rockettroopers, 1 Propaganda. Set them as a Team and just roll throw an enemy line,..the gatling versions keep the air cleared,..the bunkers ones whip out anythingon the ground,...and the Propaganda one provides healing bonues to the rest ;)
Treu....never thought of that.
I useualy nuke battle groups with those nuke cannons and also some inferno cannons and flame trowers or overlords with gatling turrets to wipe out any soldiers that are around.
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Originally posted by Darkage
They sure are when there are not allot of base defences or rocket soldiers, or they fall out of the sky like buckets.
I tend to use them as base defense till I know where to strike at the enemy. I'd rather not lose them.
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For a good fast hit and run.... Aurura bombers ;) You'll nearly always loss them if sending them into the heart of an enemy base,... but if you can get just a fast peek at a base layout it still shows buildings,.. just have to hit crtl+fire to target.,....heh can be pretty rough hitting the enemy's central command with 4 bombs in a row ;)
Or for more fun... set up hellish defenses ... so much you can ignore your own lines for a bit.... then build several hangers,.. enough for at least 2 bombers per major building (anything over supply depot level) then in one major swing you can take out everything then follow up and whip out their builders *poof* screwed.
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Originally posted by Ryx
I tend to use them as base defense till I know where to strike at the enemy. I rather not lose them.
I only realy use them to as CAS units for my tanks that encounter both soldiers and enemy tanks. But i also use them with rocket pods to destroy some tanks if there are more tanks than i have. Thats mostly after a major strike.
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any editors for generals i wanna have a little fun with the photon uplink cannon :drevil:
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Originally posted by Turnsky
any editors for generals i wanna have a little fun with the photon uplink cannon :drevil:
Can't you put units on a map using the world editor?
I am not sure if you can as the world builder is *****ing when i want to open it.
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no meant i wanna turn the photon uplink into something like 'the finger of god' (extend beam life/damage speed etc)
:devil: :drevil: :devil:
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aah:)
there are some tools, but i don't know where though, its like the big viewer used to extract Homeworld big files.
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I was doing the same thing last wekend, except I had 9 Photon Cannons and a Captured Nuke Silo going on :D
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I play Generals. It is awesome....
So far I have the A-10 buildeable, the original...hover Crusader, working on the Leopard.:thepimp:
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Bah. It's eye candy, and even as eye candy it's barely better than '2150. Go play Homeworld or Ground Control or Close Combat (especially Close Combat), then come back and say this is a strategy game.
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Originally posted by Darkage
aah:)
there are some tools, but i don't know where though, its like the big viewer used to extract Homeworld big files.
where? Link Plz..
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Originally posted by Hades
I play Generals. It is awesome....
So far I have the A-10 buildeable, the original...hover Crusader, working on the Leopard.:thepimp:
Leopard? Secret Units or somethin?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Leopard? Secret Units or somethin?
Old, unused unit.
Generals is massively fun...works on my old system...and very well too. I prefer a group of Paladin tanks, a couple of Pathfinders in Humvee's and a large group of Tomahawk launchers. Tomahawks take down clusters of Overlords like crazy. This guy sent a collum of tanks at me and with sufficient Paladin tank support, my Tomahawks whupped em good! :D
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Originally posted by Turnsky
where? Link Plz..
but i don't know where though
Read my last post;)
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i'll have a look around...
AFTER i finish this infernal comic...
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I have the game but it runs a bit laggy. Need a better 3D graphics card.
The Commanches are great but have very weak armor.
I was watching Die Another Day and the laser from the Icarus satelite reminded me of the Particle Beam in Generals. Guess somebody copied from someone.
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:doubt:
The Beam in CnC comes from the Uplink Base. and besides, The Icarus from Die Another Day was just an upgrade from Goldeneye, or It a rip off of the Star Wars program.
Arguably, Someone who didn't think of any of those could've just seen a Mjolnir while playing Freespace and Wanted to use it in DAD.
Somebody did copy :D
Speaking of James Bond and copies, isn't it weird how the existance of the last Bond Movie with Connery is more or less denied because its almost exactly like Thuderball (I think) ? At least it seems like it. It's not in any of the books or on DVD or on movie I don't think.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Bah. It's eye candy, and even as eye candy it's barely better than '2150. Go play Homeworld or Ground Control or Close Combat (especially Close Combat), then come back and say this is a strategy game.
Ground Control, yes. Marry me?
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I like C&C G better then Groundcontrol. I love the Paladin tanks and the tomahawk missile:D
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The Artillery in Ground Control Rocked. I hope GC2 is as good as the original.
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
I was watching Die Another Day and the laser from the Icarus satelite reminded me of the Particle Beam in Generals. Guess somebody copied from someone.
bah, earlier, command and conquer ( tiberian dawn, the first one ) already had the orbital ion canon, and if you want even older, in Akira, you had the Sol station :D
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Originally posted by venom2506
bah, earlier, command and conquer ( tiberian dawn, the first one ) already had the orbital ion canon, and if you want even older, in Akira, you had the Sol station :D
*grabs akira DVD* I'll see if i can get a sceenie of that :D
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(http://www.bbakira.co.uk/stills/others/sol1.jpg)
charging up :D ( won't do much, it's almost "dead" already :p )
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it managed to fire of a few rounds before disintergrating :D
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well it's much more useful in the mangas :)
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now if WE'D managed to build one :drevil:
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I like it that you can move the particle gun around and kill diferent ****:D allong a nice path across barracks and powerstations:D
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So does anyone have any cool screens?
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All I have to say is that Generals is not in the best of taste at the moment.
It's a lot like RedAlert2 involving the destruction of the Pentagon.
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I dunno about that, the only C&C games i ever played are Renegade and now Generals.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
All I have to say is that Generals is not in the best of taste at the moment.
It's a lot like RedAlert2 involving the destruction of the Pentagon.
But you have to remember both games were designed prior to either event accuring. that's sort of like Spider Man removing the scene showing the Twin Towers because it might upset ppl.... to a point it's a good gesture,... but then again where does one draw a line ? If we start having our games become politically correct,... we're not going to have many games we'll want to spend money on and play.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
All I have to say is that Generals is not in the best of taste at the moment.
It's a lot like RedAlert2 involving the destruction of the Pentagon.
well, in RA2 you were to destroy the twin towers too. But damn, it's just a game with no political bias, who cares?
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Originally posted by Darkage
I like it that you can move the particle gun around and kill diferent ****:D allong a nice path across barracks and powerstations:D
More fun.... playing as GLA,...use the Special Trooper (donno his name...build limit 1) snipe a US Work truck and get it back to base,..start building needed buildings until you can get 4 bombers,... mean while use a team of 4 Angry Mobs to whip out most of the enemy base (those bastards can vape a building in seconds) ,... use Bombers to clear out minor annoyances,... then scud storm the rest ;)
I should have Screened the gameI just finished,.... 3 similtanious Scud Storms on the last remaining enemy building :D
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When I play the GLA. I SWARM! :D I Build countless numbers of terrorist bombers and suicide trucks, with high explosives and just make them run into the base. True, many get shot down. But when the terrorists have taken out most of the hard deffences and turrets, and the chemical trucks taken out the troops, the rust just plow into the base and destroy them like the infidels that they are! :D
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What the hell? That's a freakin' beam cannon. :eek:
Bleh FS2 has better beams than that.
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I just finished a match i played China and my enemy was also china. Between the bases there is a city. I took 80% of the city builded a base in it and defences, captured oil wells and the hospital. Then all of the sudden a huge force attacked me, i mean realy huge around 10 aircraft 40 tanks and some artillery guns you can get by promotions. Pulled out to the city perimiter, then i got nuked not much damage but still. In total i got nuked and EMP 3 times i nuked them 4 times but there base was abit larger then i thought it was. Damn hard battle in that city but a good one!:D
I love the EMP and Nuke missile and the artillery guns i used to trash there base. My end stats are below prety intersting.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/****.jpg)
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Stop talking about games I have no hope of affording! Stop it I say!
Why acn't we all talk about games that real people can actually own? Like TA?
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Hey I don't own it either :) I'm just lucky enough to have a friend that failed to read the req. system specs for the game :D
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Originally posted by Warlock
Hey I don't own it either :) I'm just lucky enough to have a friend that failed to read the req. system specs for the game :D
His computer must be horribly slower than mine :D
I run Generals and I run it decently well on my PIII 733, GeForce 2 rig.
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I'm not much better PIII 800 on an ancient A OPen MBoard that I have to overclock for it to even see it's really an 800 :D
But yea I think he's Video Card is like a 16 Meg (maybe 32Meg)
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I use a AMD athlon 1.2Ghz and 512MB of SDRAM pc-133 and a Geforce2 MX100/200 32MB card. It runs fine in 800*600 resolution.
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Originally posted by Darkage
I use a AMD athlon 1.2Ghz and 512MB of SDRAM pc-133 and a Geforce2 MX100/200 32MB card. It runs fine in 800*600 resolution.
lol, I hope it does :p
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You mean Never Say Never Again? Sean Connery was like too old to be James Bond already. Greying hair and putting on weight alreaddy. Maybe after the producers watched it, they refused to acknowledge its existence by not releasing a DVD of it?:D
Back to topic. What you mean by Uplink Base? From which game?
The Particle Beam Cannon in Generals is exactly the same as in Die Another Day. You just activate it and direct it to go where and it just cuts a path of destruction to the point where you specified. Only the colour of the beam is different.
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Never Say Never Again
Wow. They're really just completely run out of good names using the Bond formula, haven't they? I mean, really, how gay can you get outside of casting Queen Latifah as the love interest?
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
You mean Never Say Never Again? Sean Connery was like too old to be James Bond already. Greying hair and putting on weight alreaddy. Maybe after the producers watched it, they refused to acknowledge its existence by not releasing a DVD of it?:D
Back to topic. What you mean by Uplink Base? From which game?
The Particle Beam Cannon in Generals is exactly the same as in Die Another Day. You just activate it and direct it to go where and it just cuts a path of destruction to the point where you specified. Only the colour of the beam is different.
Have you played generals? DAD's came directly from a satellite that used solor energy. Generals doesn't appear to come directly from a satelitte (watch the uplink base when you fire it). It maybe reflected, but there are plenty of differences as far as the Laser Satellite clique goes.
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I meant in terms of the method of destroying stuff. It travels from the starting point to the point where the user tells it to go. Not the way it is activated and what power source it uses.:D
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oh.
Well then aren't they all basically the same? :p
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[clears throat]
Ooooh... The cabin boy, the cabin boy,
The dirty little nipper!
He lined his ass
With broken glass,
And circumcised the skipper!
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:wtf:
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Quit spamming, you spammer!
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Have you played generals? DAD's came directly from a satellite that used solor energy. Generals doesn't appear to come directly from a satelitte (watch the uplink base when you fire it). It maybe reflected, but there are plenty of differences as far as the Laser Satellite clique goes.
isn't it like in TS? you buy a link addon or something for the radar station, the thing is just there to allow you to control the satellite. if it's destroyed you lose contact with it.
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Originally posted by venom2506
isn't it like in TS? you buy a link addon or something for the radar station, the thing is just there to allow you to control the satellite. if it's destroyed you lose contact with it.
Nope, it's a whole building. I always found it annoying in Tiberian sun where you needed to buy a addon to be able to use the cannon. What i did like was the walls you could make to slow enemy's down and the firestorm wall was also usefull for a while. I think they should have put that back in generals.
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Originally posted by venom2506
lol, I hope it does :p
Why do you hope that?:D
And it just runs fine;)
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This game looks fairly interesting; maybe I should pick it up...
Nope, it's a whole building. I always found it annoying in Tiberian sun where you needed to buy a addon to be able to use the cannon. What i did like was the walls you could make to slow enemy's down and the firestorm wall was also usefull for a while. I think they should have put that back in generals.
I also got tired of doing that after a while. The game actually had a bug with this feature; if you placed some turret on a component tower that had taken damage, it instantly got healed to full health. :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
This game looks fairly interesting; maybe I should pick it up...
I also got tired of doing that after a while. The game actually had a bug with this feature; if you placed some turret on a component tower that had taken damage, it instantly got healed to full health. :D
ah? didn't know that.
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Originally posted by CP5670
This game looks fairly interesting; maybe I should pick it up...
I also got tired of doing that after a while. The game actually had a bug with this feature; if you placed some turret on a component tower that had taken damage, it instantly got healed to full health. :D
Never happend to me.
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Manipulating bugs is fun. :nod:
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Never happend to me.
It was pretty useful if you were being attacked and had to build up defenses very quickly, since the component tower was usually attacked right after placement, and just as it went into the red mark, you placed the turret on it and it jumped back to full health. :D
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(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/shivanattack.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/shivanattack2.jpg)
:nervous: I was having fun with ini files...
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lol....i just played that map:D
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Okay, how many people in this thread do I need to smack and inform that the concept of space-to-ground laser sats has been around for a long, long, long time?
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Originally posted by Darkage
lol....i just played that map:D
yes, but did you play it with red beams ;7
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Originally posted by Analazon
yes, but did you play it with red beams ;7
Nope, i played it with nukes:D
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now there's an idea...
turn the fuel-air bomb (daisycutter) into a MOAB ;7
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Okay, how many people in this thread do I need to smack and inform that the concept of space-to-ground laser sats has been around for a long, long, long time?
Indeed...it was much closer to a reality when Regan announced the whole "StarWars" thing. Particle beams, lasers, railguns, all the fancy sci-fi stuff. Was very expensive tho.
In Generals, the Particle Cannon Uplink actually generates the beam, somehow its reflected back at the target.
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Originally posted by Darkage
Nope, it's a whole building. I always found it annoying in Tiberian sun where you needed to buy a addon to be able to use the cannon. What i did like was the walls you could make to slow enemy's down and the firestorm wall was also usefull for a while. I think they should have put that back in generals.
I remember the Firestorm Wall for the GDI. Very useful in when someone launches those self destructing drones, chemical missile or nukes at your base. Timing is everything though. If you activate the wall at the right time, you will save energy and still interecept those things.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Indeed...it was much closer to a reality when Regan announced the whole "StarWars" thing. Particle beams, lasers, railguns, all the fancy sci-fi stuff. Was very expensive tho.
In Generals, the Particle Cannon Uplink actually generates the beam, somehow its reflected back at the target.
Railgun base defenses would be nice...:D
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Yeah, there's nothing quite like a single-use gun for a saturation attack.:D
Personally, I'm in favor of the sort of weapon that wouldn't blow itself to plasma after one shot.
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A10 cannons are fun... i wonder how we could fit them as a base defense... or at least stick'em to a hum-vee ;7
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Stick an Avenger on a Humvee, it'll fly back 10 meters with one 3 second burst, I bet
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Yeah, there's nothing quite like a single-use gun for a saturation attack.:D
Personally, I'm in favor of the sort of weapon that wouldn't blow itself to plasma after one shot.
If your talking rail guns or lasers, new versions of the technology initially researched are supposed to be mounted on ships at some point in the future.
Laser point defense and rail gun anti-ship rolls is a heck of alot more effective than a 6in gun and a couple of phalanx pods.
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Lasers fine, it's reasonably likely that you could at some point get a laser in the hundreds of terawatts without blowing it out with an overcharge, but railguns are such a crappy design for a weapon that it's pretty much guaranteed that as a weapon they'll do more damage to whoever was shooting it than the target.
I mean, ****, the very design calls for running enough energy through the barrel to melt steel... and that's for a small one.
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Sorry about my ignorance but how does a railgun actually work anyway? I know you can shoot something so fast that it leaves behind a spiral trail of the bullet. But is that much energy needed?
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it uses electromagnets to drive a projectile at extremely high velocity... sorta how a maglev train works... the problem is with rail guns that thier powersource would be too big to be really effective on the battlefield.
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So what you're saying is that the projectile is actually being floated out of the barrel at very high velocities? Reduce friction with the inside surfaces of the barrel?
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Er... no. That's a coil gun, aka gauss gun, aka electromagnetic catapult- a series accelerator that is quite efficient and could make a very effective weapon. A railgun uses a single piece of conductive metal to... ****, I'll just get the diagram.
(http://www.islandone.org/APC/Catapults/elecats.gif)
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Sweet:yes:
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Lasers fine, it's reasonably likely that you could at some point get a laser in the hundreds of terawatts without blowing it out with an overcharge, but railguns are such a crappy design for a weapon that it's pretty much guaranteed that as a weapon they'll do more damage to whoever was shooting it than the target.
I mean, ****, the very design calls for running enough energy through the barrel to melt steel... and that's for a small one.
I'll try and dig up the articles where I read about these things being mounted on ships. From what I could tell...the technology in 25-30 years will be sufficient.
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They have already mounted it on a ship..... a very large ship which weighs a lot..... they put it on one of the decommisioned Iowa test bed battleship jobbies, according to Janes it was test fired several times in the 80s but they dont give any details about the effectiveness of the weapon.
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Icefire: You see that little part of the accelerator marked "plasma"? Yeah. That used to be a piece of solid metal, then it got fired. It's still in direct contact with a lot of the same sort of metal.
You work it out.;)