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Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 30, 2003, 06:19:56 pm
Is hella fun :D

Anyhow, that's not what this topic is about. First, I'm bugging someone for a texture. Not a texture for a FS2 ship this time, but for an FS2 building. That's right. I figured out how to use gmax with the help of the excellent tutorials that come with it, and using a sketch of a building I found, I modeled it, and here is the result in game:

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/sshot005.jpg)

As you can see, it does need a texture, what is applied currently is a placeholder texture.

Secondly, I want to say that myself and Hades are beginning work on a FS2 -> Generals TC. I want to know the community response on this, and if there is enough people wanting to help, then I'll throw together a webpage, and try to get hosted. I mean, haven't you ever wanted to fight the ground battles of FS2? Anyhow, if you're interested in texturing, contact me somehow, and I'll tell you the ideas that I have for what the texture should look like.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Knight Templar on March 30, 2003, 06:24:45 pm
KT Like Idea. KT Very Busy. KT know not how to mod. KT make time in busy schedule to play. Kt Hopes this will turn out better than the Star Craft TC last month.

:nervous:
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 30, 2003, 06:27:26 pm
well, modelers aren't the only things we need.

Generals editing is very similar to FS2 editing. There are models & there are .ini files (very similar to .tbls). The main difference is, there isn't quite so much heirarchy stuff. In generals you make a subobject, name it "turret", and then set up all of its behavior in the .ini files.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: LtNarol on March 30, 2003, 07:32:01 pm
Wait, you mean to say that Generals uses actual models?
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 30, 2003, 07:33:03 pm
yes, as you can see, it does use 3d models, in the .w3d (westwood 3d, not shockwave) format. :p
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: SKYNET-011 on March 30, 2003, 07:35:51 pm
I would, but I'm still trying to find time to work for some FS2 mods.

I'd play it though. :nod:
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: LtNarol on March 30, 2003, 08:04:52 pm
can you rotate camera view?
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 30, 2003, 08:09:19 pm
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Originally posted by LtNarol
can you rotate camera view?


yeah, middle mouse button zooms + rotates camera view. very cool.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Stunaep on March 30, 2003, 10:37:41 pm
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Originally posted by LtNarol
Wait, you mean to say that Generals uses actual models?

:lol: you really haven't been paying attention somewhere.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Nico on March 31, 2003, 02:05:16 am
true, it's pretty obvious just by looking at the screenshots :)
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2003, 05:33:36 am
Pulse laser's (ML-16 style) are working perfectly. hehe...
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Turnsky on March 31, 2003, 06:17:20 am
sweet :nod::yes:
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 31, 2003, 06:42:41 am
But what do we know of FS ground units?

And also, will this involve cruisers and stuff? Imagine a 1.5 km bloody Orion in the Generals engine!
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Turnsky on March 31, 2003, 06:45:21 am
actually i think orions were 2 clicks..
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 31, 2003, 07:06:46 am
Same difference, it will be highly unwieldy.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: LtNarol on March 31, 2003, 07:43:32 am
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Originally posted by Stunaep

:lol: you really haven't been paying attention somewhere.
sorry, been kinda going through a continuous cycle of eat, sleep, school, homework, and mod :shaking:

Heh, didn't even know about Generals until a few days ago.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 31, 2003, 09:38:06 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
But what do we know of FS ground units?

And also, will this involve cruisers and stuff? Imagine a 1.5 km bloody Orion in the Generals engine!


heh...that would be funny...an orion covering the whole map...

We don't have too much to go on besides some of the :v: concept art. I'm still trying to get the feel for "Terran" style design (as :v: envisioned it).
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Knight Templar on March 31, 2003, 11:02:46 am
This would be a nice mod to go hand in hand with something like TVWP, playing out key ground battles and so on.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 31, 2003, 11:37:43 am
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
This would be a nice mod to go hand in hand with something like TVWP, playing out key ground battles and so on.


hey, cool idea...mebby I can bug them for textures, because I am on their staff :D
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Knight Templar on March 31, 2003, 11:47:54 am
Well other campaigns could be made with it too to compliment other ones. I already have some things I'd like to do, but I guess for now, just worry about modding it with Freespace stuff. :)
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 31, 2003, 01:16:44 pm
For the moment, I'm not worried too much about campaigns ATM, just putting enough stuff into the game to play a decent skirmish would be nice :D
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on March 31, 2003, 03:09:45 pm
:doubt: and if you're going to say that the idea is stupid, could you at least post and say why?
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Knight Templar on March 31, 2003, 05:41:25 pm
Me? I think the ideas great...
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2003, 07:20:59 pm
No...the three people who voted this idea is stupid...The ones who know they are wrong so are afraid to post...
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: phreak on March 31, 2003, 08:05:23 pm
where's I'd like to see it done but i gots too much going on right now to help
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Solatar on April 03, 2003, 07:37:29 pm
That would fall under the "I'll play it, but can't/won't help" category...
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on April 03, 2003, 07:47:04 pm
Cool! I had though about possabilitys of FS2 in Generals but cool! I wanna play (unfortunatly, im doing err... 3 MODs by my self now (generals + 2 x Fs2)


Cool! what tanks do they have?

(at least you have a planet bombaring beam cannon!!!;7 )
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Anaz on April 03, 2003, 08:34:33 pm
Hmm...as far as beam cannons go, we're doing the T/V war right now, as it seems to be the most major conflict with ground fighting
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Black Wolf on April 03, 2003, 10:07:19 pm
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Originally posted by Analazon
Hmm...as far as beam cannons go, we're doing the T/V war right now, as it seems to be the most major conflict with ground fighting


Every conflit would have had ground fighting (I know for a fact that some was mentioned in a Command Briefing during the Battle of Deneb) - just being pilots, we'd never see it.

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
KT Like Idea. KT Very Busy. KT know not how to mod. KT make time in busy schedule to play. Kt Hopes this will turn out better than the Star Craft TC last month.

:nervous:



Don't write the SC conversion off just yet. It's been decreased in scope (Deep eyes' ideas were a bit much for my limited skills to produce) and now will only be replacing and rebalancing the Terran and Protoss flyers.
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Solatar on April 04, 2003, 04:23:50 pm
Well...the Shivans don't land of planets...so no fighting there.

Besides. You know you wanna blow up some Zods!
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Knight Templar on April 04, 2003, 05:42:10 pm
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Originally posted by Black Wolf


Every conflit would have had ground fighting (I know for a fact that some was mentioned in a Command Briefing during the Battle of Deneb) - just being pilots, we'd never see it.




Don't write the SC conversion off just yet. It's been decreased in scope (Deep eyes' ideas were a bit much for my limited skills to produce) and now will only be replacing and rebalancing the Terran and Protoss flyers.


Why not combine forces with Anaz and make one uber game? Next to CnC, starcraft is teh su)(0rz
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Black Wolf on April 06, 2003, 12:11:41 am
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Originally posted by Knight Templar


Why not combine forces with Anaz and make one uber game?  


'Coz I don't have Generals, can't really model, can't really texture - basically, I'd be uselress :)
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on April 07, 2003, 06:57:11 pm
Actualy, generals has a *cough* load of .ini files that seem all tto be interlinked to each other, you have to do a lot of table style edititing to get anything to work... its not all 3d stuff, just becasue all you see is 3d - like every other 3d game... it seems:nervous:
Title: Generals editing...
Post by: Solatar on April 07, 2003, 09:31:17 pm
It isn't that hard to do the stuff we want to do...