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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:19:42 pm: Here is my new genaral render of the DAWN OF THE APOCALYPSE

DAWN OF THE APOCALYPSE (http://www.geocities.com/dawnoftheapocalypse/)

:D
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Post by: miniDwarf on April 05, 2003, 02:24:10 pm: erm, its down...:rolleyes:
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:31:16 pm: Now i have fixed the broken link.
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Post by: Odyssey on April 05, 2003, 02:36:52 pm: Okay then, who did you steal that 'render of yours' from?
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:39:47 pm: From nowhere i have it make out of many pictures (copy and paste).
I have worked on it over 2 month.
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Post by: Solatar on April 05, 2003, 02:44:01 pm: copy > paste isn't a render...it's a picture...at least that's what they told me when I did that.

EDIT: Nice pic though.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 05, 2003, 02:44:05 pm: Two moths well spent

:devil:
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:45:12 pm: I have work every day 3 hours.
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Post by: Knight Templar on April 05, 2003, 02:48:33 pm: :wtf:

http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/graphics/images/maelstrom22.jpg

Greg Martin (www.artofgregmartin.com) anyone?

don't be an ass. If you wanna rip, fine, but don't break copy-write infrindgements.
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Post by: Odyssey on April 05, 2003, 02:50:32 pm: I might have begun to mildly tolerate Free Terran if it wasn't for this...
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:51:13 pm: :( OK it was a fake [SIZE=8]SORRY[/SIZE] :(

But the pictures looks very good.
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Post by: Solatar on April 05, 2003, 02:53:01 pm: *shoots Free Terran and calls the Copyright Cops in to take his body and put it in the "HLP garbage can©"

EDIT: I thought it was very good also...but I didn't put it on my website and say I spent 2 months on it....
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:54:41 pm: :( [SIZE=20]SORRY[/SIZE] :(
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Post by: Solatar on April 05, 2003, 02:55:35 pm: Are you really sorry?
Or just sorry you got caught?

That's what my parents always told me.
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:56:19 pm: :( :( :( AND NOW :( :( :(
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Post by: Odyssey on April 05, 2003, 02:57:36 pm: I think with all these big letters and smilies you're digging your own grave. Best to stop now. And, in foresight, don't say sorry to this.
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 02:59:00 pm: I shall stop at the HLPBB ?
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Post by: Odyssey on April 05, 2003, 03:00:23 pm: Do what you want. But what I meant was stop talking in big letters and using hundreds of smilies.
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 03:01:13 pm: OK and i do it never again realy realy !!!!!
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Post by: Solatar on April 05, 2003, 03:02:11 pm: I think you could stay at the HLPBB....just don't pull something as low as this again...mkay?

EDIT: And shut up with the apologies...they are getting more annoying than the crime...
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Post by: Odyssey on April 05, 2003, 03:02:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
OK and i do it never again realy realy !!!!!

I think I'll be talking for the whole community here when I say 'thanks'.
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Post by: Ashrak on April 05, 2003, 03:04:33 pm: as soon as i looked at it i knew it was Gregs picture and i knew that if you use it under your name you will probobly get sued *goes to Mail Greg*
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 05, 2003, 03:06:58 pm: Has anyone the mail from Greg ?
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Post by: CP5670 on April 05, 2003, 03:24:24 pm: I thought that other thread was funny, but this really beats them all... :D :lol: :D
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Post by: Darkage on April 05, 2003, 03:26:21 pm: Free Terran, if you want to e-mail Greg now about asking permission to use his work for your site, your abit to late for that then. This is a very low act.
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Post by: Shrike on April 05, 2003, 03:32:47 pm: This isn't helping your chances of being hosted you realize.
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Post by: Galemp on April 05, 2003, 03:34:48 pm: Every time I read one of his posts, I'm sorry that I did.

*adds Free Terran to his ignore list*
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 05, 2003, 04:54:09 pm: You wanna try having an ICQ sesh with the guy

*shudder*
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Post by: silverwolf on April 05, 2003, 05:06:31 pm: Hey don't be upset with him maybe he doesn't know what americans and other nations belive content stealing is. And if it helps I used pics from other websites because i don't know how to take screenshots from my t.v besides my scanner isn't compat. with winXP.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 05, 2003, 05:16:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
Hey don't be upset with him maybe he doesn't know what americans and other nations belive content stealing is. And if it helps I used pics from other websites because i don't know how to take screenshots from my t.v besides my scanner isn't compat. with winXP.

1. Ignorance is no defense

2. Your scanner not being compatible with XP is an even worse defense
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Post by: karajorma on April 05, 2003, 05:16:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
Hey don't be upset with him maybe he doesn't know what americans and other nations belive content stealing is. And if it helps I used pics from other websites because i don't know how to take screenshots from my t.v besides my scanner isn't compat. with winXP.

Did you claim to have made them yourself when asked though?
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Post by: silverwolf on April 05, 2003, 05:20:02 pm: i didn't say anything like that but i wondered if the peeps who viewed the website thought so .blah:

*screams lord sue me now*
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Post by: silverwolf on April 05, 2003, 05:24:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer

2. Your scanner not being compatible with XP is an even worse defense

well its true go to the mag website and check to see if the mag innoscan DTS-3050 is compat. with xp
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 05, 2003, 05:59:25 pm: I don't doubt you're telling the truth. Took me an entire day to find XP software for my scanner. But citing your scanner's incompatibility with XP does not alleviate the fact that you are, by your own admission, pinching other people's stuff. I just hope you give credit for it...
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 05, 2003, 06:12:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
Hey don't be upset with him maybe he doesn't know what americans and other nations belive content stealing is. And if it helps I used pics from other websites because i don't know how to take screenshots from my t.v besides my scanner isn't compat. with winXP.

It's not a matter of belief but a matter of copyright LAWS.
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Post by: Solatar on April 05, 2003, 06:14:22 pm: INTERNATIONAL laws.
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Post by: Darkage on April 05, 2003, 06:40:41 pm: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
You wanna try having an ICQ sesh with the guy

*shudder*

I tryed, i didn't understand him.
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Post by: silverwolf on April 05, 2003, 10:00:35 pm: *grabs some of his secret C4 stash and blows up any1 who i think is calling me a theif*
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 05, 2003, 10:09:00 pm: Er, you admitted using other people's stuff since making it yourelf was beyond your power. People could view that as thievery, you see.
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Post by: silverwolf on April 05, 2003, 10:50:06 pm: yah but on that same website i said if any of this is your content and you wnat it off email me
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 06, 2003, 01:50:18 am: I have now written in the buttom of the render "RENDER by GREG MARTIN"
Is that ok ?
And i say it again sorry i do it never again.
Can you all me forgive ?
All people make sometime mistakes.
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Post by: KillaVirus on April 06, 2003, 03:53:34 am: Er well.... guys.... if you want to get angry about someone then get angry about ME!
we talked about the design of the website on icq and ... i sayed that we need a front pic .... and then i searched for an "explosion" with the google pic search and i found that one ...... its all my debt .... i think the best would be to sit on my ass and make a real pic ......
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Post by: Black Wolf on April 06, 2003, 04:38:56 am: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
From nowhere i have it make out of many pictures (copy and paste).
I have worked on it over 2 month.

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Originally posted by Free Terran
I have work every day 3 hours.

Neither of these were your fault, and it's mnainly these that are pissing people off I think. A bit of image borrowing is generally fine if you ask permission/give credit. Claiming it as your own though is an entirely different story.
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Post by: TrashMan on April 06, 2003, 04:54:11 am: You have to cut him a bit of slack...
He is jung and.....gullable.
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Post by: kasperl on April 06, 2003, 05:00:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
You have to cut him a bit of slack...
He is jung and.....gullable.

no way, if he's steeling stuff, k, most people do that on the web. but if he starts saying that HE made it, and that he put an awfull lot of work in it, makes it really, really bad/wrong/evil.

and the fact that he's spamming the boards constantly doesn't make it anything better. basicly, i've had it with him, i tried to help him on some occasions, but he just won't listen.

ok, one more time Free Terran, perhaps this will help you:

1) DO NOT steel other poeple's work and pass it oiff as you're own
2) DO NOT demand help, ask for it, and say please and thank you.
3) DO NOT post a new topic everytime you change you're website, use ONE topic for you're entire campaign
4) DO NOT ask for help in other poeple's topics.
5) DO NOT use so many smilies
6) DO post in German, and put your English translation under it, that way we will have the most change of understanding you.
7) DO NOT use that many capital letters in your posts

[/rant]
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Post by: karajorma on April 06, 2003, 05:04:52 am: Quote
Originally posted by Black Wolf
Neither of these were your fault, and it's mnainly these that are pissing people off I think. A bit of image borrowing is generally fine if you ask permission/give credit. Claiming it as your own though is an entirely different story.

I agree with Black Wolf on this one.
It's only a short step from stealing artwork to stealing something from the community.
There are some renders done by people that didn`t get a huge amount of attention. You could probably steal one of those.
There are some mods that aren`t famous. A quick reskin and you could claim you made it.
How many people would notice if someone took one of the less well know missions from VWArchives and changed the names, messages and briefings?
Wouldn`t require much work and you might only be caught if someone opened up the mission in FRED and noticed that the events all had the same names as the original.

And that is why people are annoyed about this. Everyone who works on a campaign is an artist of a sort. We stick up for the rights of other artists (in part) because we don`t want to see the same thing happening to ourselves.

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Originally posted by TrashMan
You have to cut him a bit of slack... He is jung and.....gullable.

You say that even though he appears to have also stolen your sig too? :lol:
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 06, 2003, 05:54:50 am: I have now changed the render now it is REALY my own.
And i haven't stolen what from TrashMan he is my co-leader of the mod.
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Post by: Odyssey on April 06, 2003, 06:31:00 am: It's quite nice, but I'd recommend moving the Node to one side of the planet, as I don't think it would be quite that close. And the Sathanases would be bigger in comparison to the node, unless they are closer to the camera than it.
Oh, and the node probably should either be an artificial green or not visible - they are only visible in-game because they are added by the computer, the node itself is invisible.
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 06, 2003, 06:33:12 am: Hmm....
Ok but shall i take a KNOSSOS device ?
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Post by: Odyssey on April 06, 2003, 06:35:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
Hmm....
Ok but shall i take a KNOSSOS device ?

That is a good idea, as a knossos device would be visible. I would recommend changing to only one Sathanas though, the knossos isn't all that huge.
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Post by: KillaVirus on April 06, 2003, 06:42:02 am: er well ..my idea was to place an open subspace protal near the planet and let a ship come out through it (i thought that would be godd for the mods name)

but a knossos near a planet does look as cool ....
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Post by: FreeTerran on April 06, 2003, 06:46:18 am: OK guys look noe at the pic.
And tell me what you think.