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Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Vigilante on April 13, 2003, 02:24:18 pm: I was pointed here by the Underdogs copy of Freespace 2. How might I go about bringing the game up to normal condition?

I played and liked FS1, but somehow managed to miss FS2. :(
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 13, 2003, 02:38:46 pm: Check the HotU section of my FAQ. Should solve all your problems. Tell me if it doesn`t.

Oh and feel welcome to stay around the community. We are real friendly to new members :)
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 13, 2003, 02:46:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
We are real friendly to new members :)

ROFL!

Oh, you crack me up.
:lol: :lol:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Galemp on April 13, 2003, 02:53:46 pm: If new members read the FAQ and are willing to be mature, then we welcome them with open arms. If you can write, code, FRED, or make 2D or 3D art, that's even better. :nod: Speaking coherently is always a bonus, too...
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 13, 2003, 02:55:16 pm: So Free Terran does nay qualify, then?
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Odyssey on April 13, 2003, 03:00:02 pm: Speaking coherently is a bonus. C'mon, it ain't that bad, at least he's understandable. Well, the gist of his posts... oh, wait, never mind.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Nuclear1 on April 13, 2003, 03:09:26 pm: Welcome to HLP.

Mostly, we are friendly people. Just watch out for the admins...
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: vyper on April 13, 2003, 03:19:00 pm: (http://www.geocities.com/lionrampant31uk/welcomebeam.txt)

Thats one version of the welcome beam.
Welcome, I don't think I'd call us friendly, more like harsh but cuddly. :nervous:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Odyssey on April 13, 2003, 03:27:22 pm: Harsh but cuddly? Like, a cross between a claymore (both mine and sword) and a teddybear? Damn... I think we need to add something to the welcome warning about this, someone might get hurt :S
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Vigilante on April 13, 2003, 03:46:27 pm: Mommy, I'm scared... :shaking:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 13, 2003, 03:56:01 pm: Quote
Originally posted by nuclear1
Mostly, we are friendly people. Just watch out for the admins...
Gee, thanks.

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Originally posted by Vigilante
Mommy, I'm scared... :shaking:
Eh, they like to talk tough, but they're all toothless. :p
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Odyssey on April 13, 2003, 04:03:05 pm: Talk tough? What do you mean? I'm trying to help you guys! The teddy bears are evil, dammit! One false step and boom! You either get a scotsman with a sword the size of his body, or you get blown up anti-personnel style with millions of shards of hot metal. Thankyou, have a nice day.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 13, 2003, 04:42:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
So Free Terran does nay qualify, then?

Actually he was the main reason I said that. Ask yourself this. How many other boards would he have lasted this long on? Even without that whole theft of someone else's artwork a few weeks back, he would have probably been flamed to a crisp on most other boards.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 13, 2003, 04:54:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Even without that whole theft of someone else's artwork a few weeks back

When was this??:confused:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: IceFire on April 13, 2003, 05:06:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Killfrenzy

When was this??:confused:

Few weeks ago. Was from an artist website...real beautiful render. Said he did it himself....but I won't bring it up any further.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Blue Lion on April 13, 2003, 05:16:08 pm: We gotta be able to get the game set up somewhere for download, a full game and such and such. That would be cool
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Vigilante on April 13, 2003, 05:22:14 pm: Ahem... back to the important topic (that is. ME! :ick)...

Karajorma, I've nabbed the high res, music, voice, and 1.2 patch packs from your FAQ; I still need the anims and cinematics from somewhere. They are not on Kazaa as you suggested.

I also don't know what directories to put these files in, nor precisely how to use the .rar with the 1.2 patch files.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 13, 2003, 05:44:45 pm: The .vp's go in the freespace directory (same as your other .vp's).
The files you`ll need to delete will be in the data folder (or it's sub-folders).

As for where to get the rest I`m not certain. Sometime you can find the tango's and sometimes it takes a while. They are available cause I know that I`m sharing them.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Vigilante on April 13, 2003, 06:11:12 pm: Hrm, digging out the duplicate dummy files looks unpleasant.

I guess I'll keep working kazaa for the tangos and such. Your faq doesn't mention the filenames of the cinematics, however.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Exarch on April 13, 2003, 06:13:03 pm: If you can't unpack the .rar with the patch files, you can grab an unpacked version from the Official Site (http://www.freespace2.com/downloads.cfm#freespace2patch) which you just have to download and run.

To find the directories for the files you need to delete, just remember that the .vp subdirectories have the exact same structure as the data folder subdirectories. If you have a file in stu_fs2.vp (voice data) under the personas directory, it'll be in the voice/personas subdirectory in your data folder if it exists and needs to be deleted. Now, going around deleting a that many files to make sure the ones in VPs are used can get tedious though, so if you have the harddisk space and want to get started quickly I'd suggest you to just copy the contents of each VP subdirectory into the appropriate data folder subdirectory, and simply let it overwrite any files with matching names.

Later on you'll want to do it the "right" way (so don't delete the VPs), since having the whole package in the data folder can cause trouble for mods (since they can't override non-VP stuff in the data directory), but by then it'll be much easier since you don't have to look in the VPs all the time, but can rather just delete any large files. Size tells them apart since the files that are there from the HotU installation are simply placeholders with no content, to keep FS2 from complaining when it looks for a voice, animation or other file and finds none.

[Edit] The cinematics are Intro.mve, Colossus.mve, Mono1.mve, Mono2.mve, Mono3.mve, Mono4.mve, Bastion.mve, Endpart1.mve, Endprt2A.mve and Endprt2B.mve.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: silverwolf on April 13, 2003, 06:15:48 pm: friendly huh tell that to stryke 9 he called me a noob even though i've been around since october i think
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 13, 2003, 06:16:00 pm: You`ll be lucky if you can find the cutscenes on Kazaa as most people just leave them on the CD's. There is a transcript of all of the cutscenes in the Storyline section of my FAQ but that is a poor second to having the cutscenes themselves but I think that's probably the best you`ll get. I`ll try to put up the names of the cutscenes by this time tomorrow.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Vigilante on April 13, 2003, 06:20:05 pm: Okay, so these .vps are just like .paks for quake engine games. Still need to find the last few, though.

Do I need to unpack anything from the high resolution .vp?
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 13, 2003, 06:41:28 pm: I believe that one can be used as it is.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Visionism on April 14, 2003, 09:06:23 am: Ok another noob. Well noob-ish. I was on the ol' FDL for a while way back when and I've been lurking here for a bit having just dusted off FS and FS2 again due to complete and utter disillusionment with Freelancer

I noticed that some people seem to have difficulty with the HotU rip since the briefings fly past, having no sound to slow them down. It doesn't mention it in the FAQ but there is always the 'pause button' option then you can just step through the briefing stages with the 'next' arrow and have plenty of time to read. Click it once and it stays in that mode for the whole game btw. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: IceFire on April 14, 2003, 09:14:07 am: All of this would be so much easier if Interplay actually started selling FS2 white box editions. Heck...just the CDs in a jewel case would be fantastic. Sell em for $9.99...cash in on FreeLancer's success....it'd be great.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Visionism on April 14, 2003, 09:28:33 am: Amen to that. Honestly Freespace 2 has to be just about the most sought-after games on the used market (Just look at the prices on ebay if you don't believe me) and I for one would sure like some replacement discs. Mine are just nasty. This would be the perfect time to do it, too.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: kasperl on April 14, 2003, 10:37:23 am: tell me about it, i've got an order for the withe label running at the local book(and multimedia) store, from last december, and i doubt i''ll ever get the full game. i have the voice, music, and some of the cb's, however.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: karajorma on April 14, 2003, 10:55:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by Visionism
I noticed that some people seem to have difficulty with the HotU rip since the briefings fly past, having no sound to slow them down. It doesn't mention it in the FAQ but there is always the 'pause button' option then you can just step through the briefing stages with the 'next' arrow and have plenty of time to read. Click it once and it stays in that mode for the whole game btw. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.

Thanks for the pointer. I`ll add that to the FAQ too. :) I`d only heard about problems with the in game speech but yeah the briefings would whip past quickly too now I think about it. :)
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 16, 2003, 06:20:09 am: Quote
We are real friendly to new members

:wtf: :rolleyes: Indeed.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,318.0.html
I remember Stryke 9's first post here. Very friendly I must say. :rolleyes:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Turnsky on April 16, 2003, 06:25:12 am: hmmm, i remember seeing a logitech attack force 2 and it included a copy of fs2 for free....
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: diamondgeezer on April 16, 2003, 06:25:35 am: Quote
Originally posted by Razor
I remember Stryke 9's first post here. Very friendly I must say. :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
No suprise- we had fun chewing your face off there for longer than I think any FS3er has lasted!
Hey, he was only saying what we were all thinking

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Diamond Geezer is currently reading the complete history of Middle-earth
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: kasperl on April 16, 2003, 09:53:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky
hmmm, i remember seeing a logitech attack force 2 and it included a copy of fs2 for free....

fs2 collusus, only half of the game, it does include some of the custscense, some of the voice, and the first CBani vp.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 16, 2003, 01:52:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer

Hey, he was only saying what we were all thinking

All? :wtf:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: diamondgeezer on April 16, 2003, 06:45:39 pm: Yep, all. Sorry, but you're something of a joke round these parts. Although you did manage to reply in only one post this time - well done :)

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Diamond Geezer is a qualified first-aider
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 16, 2003, 07:09:52 pm: Play nicely.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: diamondgeezer on April 16, 2003, 10:23:08 pm: You're telling me Razor doesn't deserve to be ridiculed?

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Diamond Geezer has been to known to stay awake for 48 hours straight
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Bobboau on April 17, 2003, 12:32:53 am: only in a few off topic situations.
with the exeption of the ocasional anti-American rant (though he does have legitimate grevences, unlike most) and missing the point of the ocasional joke he seems to be a fairly decent member of the comunity.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Stunaep on April 17, 2003, 03:08:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
You're telling me Razor doesn't deserve to be ridiculed?

wait, he's being ridiculed? Exactly when did that happen? and why?

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with the exeption of the ocasional anti-American rant

he and the rest of europe.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: diamondgeezer on April 17, 2003, 04:49:31 am: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
he seems to be a fairly decent member of the comunity.

You're having a bubbly bath

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Diamond Geezer says quitting Uni was the second smartest thing he ever did
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 04:57:18 am: Is it really that important?
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 17, 2003, 05:33:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Play nicely.

No Shrike please don't bother. Nothing gets to this guy. It seems to me that he is somehow isolated behind a wall which no words can penetrate. In other words, as I said before, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a normal conversation with dg.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Turnsky on April 17, 2003, 05:36:21 am: *Grabs Fire-extinguisher and hangs sack of headz on a peg on a wall*
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 17, 2003, 05:40:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Yep, all.
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Diamond Geezer is a qualified first-aider

Oh of course. How could I be so stupid? :rolleyes: By all you probably mean some 5 to 10 people of this community. Like....well I don't wanna mention but as far as I know, I don't get into (if you can call them this way) conflicts often.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: kasperl on April 17, 2003, 06:33:06 am: *grabs medkit*

this might produce some nasty injuries.

ok, enough with the jokes, can't you two take it outside? get on MSN, IRC, AIM, ICQ, or whatever communication you prefer, but take it outside. it's getting annoying to see a fight erupt between Razor and DG everytime i open a thread.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: diamondgeezer on April 17, 2003, 07:16:13 am: Oh alright, fine. I'll keep my grievences to myself from now on, as long as everyone remembers that if I'm ever in Serbia I'm going to find Razor and punch him in the gob.

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Diamond Geezer is a connoisseur of fine whiskies
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Knight Templar on April 17, 2003, 10:04:20 am: Quote
Originally posted by Razor

Oh of course. How could I be so stupid? :rolleyes: By all you probably mean some 5 to 10 people of this community. Like....well I don't wanna mention but as far as I know, I don't get into (if you can call them this way) conflicts often.

You've complained and whined yourself that everyone here doesn't like you or flames you for no reason anyway. All and anyone are more or less interchangeable in this context, so are you only changing your self pitied stance to contradict Diamondgeezer?

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KT wishes he thought of this first.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Visionism on April 17, 2003, 10:16:45 am: (http://personalpages.tds.net/~neilc/dontgetthread.jpg)
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Unknown Target on April 17, 2003, 10:55:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Oh and feel welcome to stay around the community. We are real friendly to new members :)

*toasts SILVER DRACON*

*Takes a bite*

Mmmm....criiiispeeeee.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 05:17:57 pm: *Jumps in with shields at full*

What's going on?:D
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 05:44:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Razor
No Shrike please don't bother. Nothing gets to this guy. It seems to me that he is somehow isolated behind a wall which no words can penetrate. In other words, as I said before, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a normal conversation with dg.
Did I ask for an explanation? No. This is a matter between you two. So take it somewhere else, deal with it, or drop it.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 17, 2003, 05:45:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Killfrenzy
[B

What's going on?:D [/B]

*Throws a flame-thrower* *Hears an "Ouch"* and says: Eeeeh...nothing. :D
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 17, 2003, 05:47:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
drop it.

Good idea. :yes: Was thinking about giving silent treatments on such occasions though.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 05:50:58 pm: *Shoots all the people sniping at each other........wtih BFREDS!!*

Now, behave before Shrike kills you! :D
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Razor on April 17, 2003, 05:52:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Killfrenzy
[B

Now, behave before Shrike kills you! :D [/B]

Who? Me? :wtf:
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 05:55:20 pm: Well, yes. You and DG.

Take it to PM. :)
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 05:56:28 pm: And stop spamming over the off-topicness that I have already said to drop.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 05:59:18 pm: Who? Me?:D
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 06:06:11 pm: Drop it, ok? I'm serious.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 06:10:05 pm: So am I: What did I do? If you're meaning the OT thread that Karma did, I was joining in the sillyness.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 06:26:11 pm: No, jumping in here for no reason.
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Killfrenzy on April 17, 2003, 06:29:43 pm: You mean like everyone else?

Anyways, I'll shut up now. If the topic's bothering you, why don't you close it?
Title: the inevitable newb question
Post by: Shrike on April 17, 2003, 06:48:08 pm: Because I was under the impression that people would understand when I say drop it I ****ING WELL MEAN IT.

I'm not going to mince words, so stop being an idiot, ok? It should be quite obvious that what is not the topic here should have been dropped half a dozen posts ago, yet you continued posting inane comments. I didn't really want to close the topic, but I guess I will now.