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Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 17, 2003, 01:49:37 pm: I can't update my modelview version at the moment it is
1.0 Beta 03 Build 16 but it exist version 1.0 Beta 05 (Build 28)
can anyone send me a new version or can anyone give me a link please ?
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Odyssey on April 17, 2003, 01:53:41 pm: What do you need to update your version for? If it's for POF editing capabilities or something, why bother? Use it and PCS in conjunction.
If you insist on getting the latest version, then I don't think there is a link anywhere. Descent network isn't listing anything, HLP has a link to your version on fileplanet, all other sites on the net have links to even older versions.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: IceFire on April 17, 2003, 02:08:17 pm: Normally you'd just get it from Descent-Network...but it seems to be having server troubles.

As are all internet websites today. Its just a really messed up day...if another bad thing happens I'm going to go nuts.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 17, 2003, 02:16:12 pm: What if somehting utterly terrible happens? Like you wake up and your legs are upside down?
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: IceFire on April 17, 2003, 02:17:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
What if somehting utterly terrible happens? Like you wake up and your legs are upside down?

I'll be forced into utter insanity and I'll command my legions of penguin marines to take over the world.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 17, 2003, 02:19:01 pm: Please send me anyone the new version !
I need it :(
E-mail: [email protected]
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 17, 2003, 02:26:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by IceFire

I'll be forced into utter insanity and I'll command my legions of penguin marines to take over the world.

Ahh, but all people ahve to do is overfly them in a chopper and they'll fall over backwards, looking at it.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Odyssey on April 17, 2003, 02:35:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
Please send me anyone the new version !
I need it :(
E-mail: [email protected]

Why do you need it so badly? Why do you need it at all?
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: karajorma on April 17, 2003, 02:36:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
Please send me anyone the new version !
I need it :(
E-mail: [email protected]

Quick EVERYONE send him a copy! He's made the fatal mistake of just giving out his address and asking for people to send him a half meg file! :D

Seriously though FT why do you need it so badly? I`ve got it an it's a nice program but what does it do that the older versions of ModelView don`t? Or more specifically what does it do that someone like you (who I don`t believe mods) needs?

EDIT : I see I`m not the only one confused by this severe case of upgraditis :D

Secondly have you tried updating it using the update option in the help menu? I can`t remember how that worked but I seem to remember that is what I used when I wanted to update.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 17, 2003, 02:48:36 pm: I need it because of the new anti-aliasing feature.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: IceFire on April 17, 2003, 03:01:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
I need it because of the new anti-aliasing feature.

WHAT!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IT FOR?

A minor smoothing of lines that you look at for utility reasons is the reason? Just wait till the site comes back up again.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 17, 2003, 03:02:06 pm: OK when you mean.
Then must i wait. No problem :)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Knight Templar on April 17, 2003, 04:35:13 pm: Yes, wait you must. Consume you, the dark side will, yes.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: LtNarol on April 17, 2003, 05:14:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
What if somehting utterly terrible happens? Like you wake up and your legs are upside down?
Oh thats nothing, it could always be far worse...you could have waken up on your back as a giant beetle-like insect :p
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Black Wolf on April 17, 2003, 07:50:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by LtNarol
Oh thats nothing, it could always be far worse...you could have waken up on your back as a giant beetle-like insect :p

I hated that story... :ick
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: kasperl on April 18, 2003, 04:20:48 am: Admins, lock, plz?

spam like this is getting annoying.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 18, 2003, 01:24:12 pm: If you don't like it, don't read it. That's my answer to everything.

"Your room looks a mess"
"Don't look"

Etc.

But, back to the topic, just to please you.

What is the latest version? what number?
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 18, 2003, 01:27:48 pm: I think this version: 1.0 Beta 05 (Build 28)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 18, 2003, 01:41:52 pm: Splendid.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: FreeTerran on April 18, 2003, 01:42:29 pm: :wtf: WHY :wtf:
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 18, 2003, 01:49:08 pm: As it keeps the thread on topic, and so will stop kasperl moaning.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2003, 04:40:04 pm: Bumpage.

Link please? Someone? I'd like to see just how far... oh,, heck, I don't need to explain my reasons for wanting the latest version, now do I? ;7
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 15, 2003, 01:40:02 am: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,15019.0.html
links to the normal beta05 and the upped limits one in there :)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Sandwich on May 15, 2003, 05:18:05 am: Quote
Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,15019.0.html
links to the normal beta05 and the upped limits one in there :)

I already found that in the search I did before posting (ain't I a good forumite? :p) - broken links, both of 'em.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 15, 2003, 05:54:27 am: the links work-just geocties.
try right clicking and save as. it seemed to work for GE over on F2S :)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: StratComm on May 15, 2003, 01:10:25 pm: Yeah for Geocities it's better to link to a page that has the zips linked from there. It used to work without problem, but they like to block people who take advantage of their free space without linking through their ads.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Sandwich on May 16, 2003, 04:48:44 am: Got it working now, thanks. I see it still has a limit on vertices... no more than 10,000 allowed. ;)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Nico on May 16, 2003, 04:58:03 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Got it working now, thanks. I see it still has a limit on vertices... no more than 10,000 allowed. ;)

ask woomeister for his version, he has a lot of limits upped, so...
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 18, 2003, 01:50:21 am: :wtf: you broke a 10k limit? :eek:
ahh well, upped all limits again and now even you can't hope to break em :D
poly limit: 100 000
vert limit: 300 000

hmm, overkill, granted, but it works :D

same link as before, same proceedure: http://www.geocities.com/vasudanad/modviw32.zip
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Sandwich on May 18, 2003, 02:37:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
:wtf: you broke a 10k limit? :eek:
ahh well, upped all limits again and now even you can't hope to break em :D
poly limit: 100 000
vert limit: 300 000

hmm, overkill, granted, but it works :D

same link as before, same proceedure: http://www.geocities.com/vasudanad/modviw32.zip

Yeah, but I think that was because every polygon had its own vertices unwelded with the other polygon vertices in the same position..... darn Rhino. :p

I'm re-editing the model in MAX, and it reports 3576 verts and 6452 polies, with full LODs, no debris, not much turrets. I'll probably both lower and raise that as I work on it - it was one of the earliest models I did and I've learned a lot of dos and don'ts since then. :)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 24, 2003, 07:55:49 pm: oh boy,
i dunno how, but i missed bumping the max normals, and some of the terran inferno ships break that limit. updated the exe with higher limits on normals (100 000). again, same link as before and same installation proceedure (paste the updated exe over the current one): http://www.geocities.com/vasudanad/modviw32.zip
to test if it works, open the inferno terran ships vp and try opening the terran knossos and the warlock. :)
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Woomeister on May 25, 2003, 07:50:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
to test if it works, open the inferno terran ships vp and try opening the terran knossos and the warlock. :)

Well I can open those in beta4b, you shouldn't need expanded limits for any of our ships that I've released so far.
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 26, 2003, 03:47:17 am: really? that's odd. mine said they broke a normal limit of 10k....
strange. maybe i accidentally lessened it when bumping all the other limits. ahh well, fixed now :)
i reallly like a lot of those inferno ships btw :) especially that infelite model's textures- simply the best i have ever seen :eek2:
Title: MODELVIEW problem
Post by: Woomeister on May 26, 2003, 06:11:40 am: Quote
Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
i reallly like a lot of those inferno ships btw :) especially that infelite model's textures- simply the best i have ever seen :eek2:

One of Venoms first 1024*1024 texture maps :)