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Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on April 22, 2003, 11:24:15 am: Download GTF Canis Beta 0.2 (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/as/dump/bfbeta2.zip)

Yep! It's another of my nasty Homeworld conversions. This time the victim is the Taiidan Scout. This conversion was influenced by the success of my previous conversion of the Taiidan Attack Bomber to the GTB Tigris. (Remember how the company that made Pong (TM) kept developing it? Of course not. Not everyone is in their mid-life crisis.)

Introducing the GTF Canis. (In trueSpace 4.2!)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/images/canis.jpg)

I would've posted more trueSpace shots but my server was running out on me spacewise. Anyway, if you want the model for your campaign when I release it, please tell me beforehand to give me more... smugness! :D

NOTE: I didn't do any background research on whether the name GTF Canis or Canis is taken. If it is, please suggest another name.

Constructive (or Destructive) criticism is advisable for Rampage to bring newer and non-ripoff MODs to the community.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: IPAndrews on April 22, 2003, 02:06:06 pm: On the contrary. Carry on converting these ships. They're cute! Get someone to do a mini campaign to showcase them.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: kasperl on April 22, 2003, 02:23:25 pm: it doesn't look very dog like, unlike what the name suggests.
(canis is dog in Latin IIRC)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on April 22, 2003, 04:10:02 pm: How can a ship look like a dog?
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Galemp on April 22, 2003, 05:27:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by CateranOverlord:
How can a ship look like a dog?

(http://www.freespace2.com/images/ship_hecate/lgpic.jpg)
(http://www.crown-hunter.de/fotoalbum/betty-stand.jpg)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Unknown Target on April 22, 2003, 06:06:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
it doesn't look very dog like,

On the contrary, good forumite. It looks quite....doggish :D

GJ, keep up the good work!:yes:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on April 22, 2003, 07:37:42 pm: 3 things:

First of all---Canis means dog, so it would make sense if it was somewhat dog shaped. Hecate was not a dog, maybe she was ugly but I never saw Macbeth in person so I don't know. If it looks like a dog then it is completely coincidental.

Second of all---Why does that Hecate have no beamcannons?

Third---Uh? I kinda forgot the third thing.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sheepy on April 22, 2003, 08:16:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by CateranOverlord
Second of all---Why does that Hecate have no beamcannons?

:wtf:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: TrashMan on April 23, 2003, 01:57:29 am: NICE!:yes:

*VERY tempted to use the model in DOA campaign......*

Don't go away.....
*Runs off to consult other team members*
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: FreeTerran on April 23, 2003, 02:08:10 am: Good model.
Can you give us the model for the DOTA mod ?
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Knight Templar on April 23, 2003, 02:18:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sheepy

:wtf:

look closer, the hecate is turretless.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: IPAndrews on April 23, 2003, 02:57:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by CateranOverlord
Canis means dog, so it would make sense if it was somewhat dog shaped.

You sir, are quite mad.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Nico on April 23, 2003, 03:53:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by CateranOverlord
3 things:

First of all---Canis means dog, so it would make sense if it was somewhat dog shaped.

I mised the likelyness between the real thing and the f14 tomcat, the the f16 falcon, the f22 raptor, the ah64 apache, the b2 spirit, the mi24 hind ( lol ), the "insert any name of any existing machine here". hell, no need to go that far: valkyrie, mjolnir, pegasus, etc etc.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: karajorma on April 23, 2003, 04:04:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

I mised the likelyness between the real thing and the f14 tomcat, the the f16 falcon, the f22 raptor, the ah64 apache, the b2 spirit, the mi24 hind ( lol ), the "insert any name of any existing machine here". hell, no need to go that far: valkyrie, mjolnir, pegasus, etc etc.

Good point. The valkyrie must be edited immediately to look like a big breasted scandinavian woman! ;7
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on April 23, 2003, 06:21:24 pm: :devil: Aha! devilishly ingenius plan my fellow fs2er.

Rampage you should get on it!
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on April 23, 2003, 06:43:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Free Terran
Can you give us the model for the DOTA mod ?

Yes. I should be done with the model by Friday and its interface animations (including the rotating one) by Tuesday or whatnot.

NOTE: If someone wants to volunteer for the rotating interface animation for the Canis, please quote this post. Help would be appreciated for my animations are scrap.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on April 23, 2003, 07:10:48 pm: I'm there for ya Rampage. In spirit anyway.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: TrashMan on April 24, 2003, 10:40:50 am: Hmmm.. Canis... Would you mind if we changed the name?
Title: BETA 0.1 Release
Post by: Rampage on April 25, 2003, 04:14:38 pm: Alright kiddies. This is fresh out of trueSpace4, Paintshop, Photoshop, and Corel Draw; do you think you can handle it?

GTF Canis BETA 0.2 (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/as/dump/bfbeta2.zip)

NOTE: I have not tested the model myself. So you would be doing me a favor by testing it yourself and posting some screenshots here.

Have fun!
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 26, 2003, 04:10:40 am: Great work !! :yes:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Galemp on April 26, 2003, 02:07:00 pm: :eek2: Wow!

Incredible! It uses the Artemis skin! That means we can have a DH version! Fantastic!
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 26, 2003, 02:09:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
:eek2: Wow!

Incredible! It uses the Artemis skin! That means we can have a DH version! Fantastic!

Yes, thats a good idea!
I really like this ship!
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Galemp on April 26, 2003, 03:26:47 pm: Say, where is the Tigris anyway? Search turns up nada.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on April 26, 2003, 07:49:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Say, where is the Tigris anyway? Search turns up nada.

The Tigris (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/dump/tigris.zip)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 27, 2003, 05:41:31 am: Hey Rampage, I've made a DH-version of it:

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/sigma_1/canisdh.jpg

What do you think? :)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: karajorma on April 27, 2003, 09:17:21 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sigma
Hey Rampage, I've made a DH-version of it:

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/sigma_1/canisdh.jpg

What do you think? :)

You need to do something about the two grey areas where the guns are. Apart from that :yes:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 27, 2003, 10:39:56 am: I'm working on it!
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Solatar on April 27, 2003, 11:27:52 am: I already did it.

Open up the texture provided and notice it is a little different. Take the grey gun slots from the top, right-hand corner and paste them into the same spot on the D.H. texture.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 27, 2003, 11:43:22 am: Quote
Originally posted by Solatar
I already did it.

Open up the texture provided and notice it is a little different. Take the grey gun slots from the top, right-hand corner and paste them into the same spot on the D.H. texture.

Thanks. I'm going to fix it! I post I new pic of it when its finished.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 27, 2003, 01:23:21 pm: OK, I think this looks better:

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/sigma_1/newcanisdh.GIF
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: StratComm on April 27, 2003, 01:38:49 pm: I don't know why, but HW fighters converted with FS skins and size ratios have always looked like piloted missiles to me. They are so spindly and have so little detail that they can be hard to make fit well. It's a good conversion, but next to a herc or even a persius it just looks, well, simple, LOD1 or LOD2 like. If you have an interum mesh, you might try things like beefing up the wings, adding missile pods of some kind, and rounding out the cockpit. It's bound to have at least a few polys to spare.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on April 28, 2003, 02:17:18 pm: I really like the Canis D.H. (See if one of you can make a Tigris D.H.)

Keep in mind that (I forgot to tell you guys) the Canis can only carry ballistic primaries (fighter flak, vulcan, etc.)

StratComm. Homeworld vessels were designed to be resourceful to the average player of the time (2000-2001?) as computers can't handle advanced graphics yet. Now with all the GeForce4 and whatnots, Homeworld 2 seem to be more promising with better graphics. I'll see after Homeworld 2 comes out if I can bring one of those models to Freespace 2.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Solatar on April 28, 2003, 04:09:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sigma
OK, I think this looks better:

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/sigma_1/newcanisdh.GIF

How about this...
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/Hades/viperDH.jpg)

Notice the missile/gun racks.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: karajorma on April 28, 2003, 04:09:30 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rampage
StratComm. Homeworld vessels were designed to be resourceful to the average player of the time (2000-2001?) as computers can't handle advanced graphics yet. Now with all the GeForce4 and whatnots, Homeworld 2 seem to be more promising with better graphics. I'll see after Homeworld 2 comes out if I can bring one of those models to Freespace 2.

Why wait? You'll only get behind. I've already seen a thread last week where someone was already converting ships from Homeworld 2 :)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on April 28, 2003, 04:51:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
I've already seen a thread last week where someone was already converting ships from Homeworld 2 :)

I believe that he making one from scratch via a screenshot.

Talking about screenshots...
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/images/sshot.jpg)
NOTE: [German Accent] If you see any texture glitches, you're CRAZY. (If you see anything moving, that's just FRESHNESS! ARRH!)

If you want to see a Homeworld model that is really high-detailed, then take a look at the Taiidan Heavy Interceptor (Trikkor). It's probably the most detailed fighter in the game.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on April 28, 2003, 07:00:42 pm: It definitely looks better in black. Hell anything looks better DH style.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Raptor on April 29, 2003, 06:32:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by StratComm
I don't know why, but HW fighters converted with FS skins and size ratios have always looked like piloted missiles to me. They are so spindly and have so little detail that they can be hard to make fit well. It's a good conversion, but next to a herc or even a persius it just looks, well, simple, LOD1 or LOD2 like. If you have an interum mesh, you might try things like beefing up the wings, adding missile pods of some kind, and rounding out the cockpit. It's bound to have at least a few polys to spare.

Have you seen the Acolyte model? Thats a smoothy.

Speaking of Acolytes....

http://angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/Acolytes.html

couldn't resist....:drevil:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on April 29, 2003, 09:28:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rampage
I really like the Canis D.H. (See if one of you can make a Tigris D.H.)

I'm working on a Tigris D.H. I post a pic here when it is finished.
Title: Re: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on May 03, 2003, 11:20:55 am: I have released BETA 0.2 for the Canis and the Tigris. Fixed some interface issues.

Beta 0.2 (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1lyx2/as/dump/bfbeta2.zip)
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on May 10, 2003, 03:12:55 am: I have finished the GTB Tigris D.H. !

(http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/sigma_1/Tigrisdhpreview.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on May 10, 2003, 07:46:20 am: :yes: Me like, me like:yes:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on May 10, 2003, 06:29:17 pm: The white bands on the fins make the ship look erratic. Remove them or arrange them in a nice order.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on May 10, 2003, 06:39:09 pm: Maybe on the rear section, but for the forward near the cockpit I would keep the white lines.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Sigma on May 11, 2003, 04:45:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rampage
The white bands on the fins make the ship look erratic. Remove them or arrange them in a nice order.

OK, I'm going to fix it!
But I keep the white lines near the cockpit.
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on May 11, 2003, 11:16:12 am: Sounds good to me. How 'bout you Rampage?
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: Rampage on May 11, 2003, 06:42:07 pm: I like it. Shoot me a shot of the ship. :cool:

By the way, I have a science cruiser on the way that I'm going to name it after my old physics professor: The GVSc Saa'vner! (Unless someone objects to it. ;7)

Rampage
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: CateranOverlord on May 13, 2003, 07:29:23 pm: :confused:Why in the heck is there an apostrophe?:wtf:
Title: GTB Tigris Followup: The GTF Canis
Post by: karajorma on May 14, 2003, 02:19:34 am: Maybe his professor was half vulcan? :)