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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Riven on April 27, 2003, 01:07:54 pm
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Hey im mr happy 2day cos i just got dumped by my girlfriend so she can concentrate on her revision for gcse's!
So heres why exams suck:
Girls turn into revision freaks
Parents ***** at you cos your not revising enough
Teachers ***** at you cos you arnt taking it serious enough
Your older sister got all A*'s
They put loads of stress on you probably damaging yor health
Still stressed afterwards waiting ages for results
Exam boards tend to cock up results
Your whole future depends on them
They are no measure of inteligence just exam technique
Im a pretty layed back guy but something has just snapped!!! :mad:
Wana add anything else to this list, feel free
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No no, I agree with all of the above. This sucks.
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I'd rather do exams than coursework, though.
Exams have to be done, you're there at the time and you have no choice but to do them.
Coursework, on the other hand, has to be done in your own time, when there are much better things to do, like stick forks in your eyes.
Much as I hate exams, and the boredom created by finishing with 30 minutes to go, there are far more preferable to coursework.
OH, and I have never revised for any exam in my life, but I might just do it for the GCSEs, just for a lark.
I still got all level 7's in the SATs, and there are people who did nothing but revise for 2 weeks solid and got 5s and 6s, so it just shows that revision is ****.
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Girls turn into revision freaks
Generalization sucks major baboon ass.:ick
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I still got all level 7's in the SATs, and there are people who did nothing but revise for 2 weeks solid and got 5s and 6s, so it just shows that revision is ****.
I didnt revise at all for mine either and got 7 english, 8 maths and EP science but still my parents pressure me
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Indeed, there is hardly anyone at school who has started revising, no one cares about their exams or coursework. We're probably all trying to ruin the school's rep by failing, whether we realise it or not.
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Originally posted by Riven
I didnt revise at all for mine either and got 7 english, 8 maths and EP science but still my parents pressure me
I took the Ep in english, but didn't pass it becuase I kept going off track and lambasting the government, the secretary of educatoin, and the exam boards!
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Girls turn into revision freaks
That freakin pisses me off. When I was in first grade in YU High School, I was in the same class with 2 hotties who studied at leats 8 hours a day. :mad2:
I heard about "corrupted" ;7 girls but, girls corrupted by school work, that is just really freakin SIIICK!!!!
Waits for CP to start "flaming" us.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Generalization sucks major baboon ass.:ick
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I know it seems like I'm going against you today a hell of a lot - it's not intentional, promise :)
That said, an awful lot of the girls I know do hole themselves up and do nothing but studying. A fact: one friend of mine has spent 2 whole weeks doing very little but revising for her exams that are still over 6 weeks away.
You're right though, it's a generalisation - but perhaps not without some observation...
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
I know it seems like I'm going against you today a hell of a lot - it's not intentional, promise :)
That said, an awful lot of the girls I know do hole themselves up and do nothing but studying. A fact: one friend of mine has spent 2 whole weeks doing very little but revising for her exams that are still over 6 weeks away.
You're right though, it's a generalisation - but perhaps not without some observation...
heh, And you really think all they do is revising? I bet 50% of the time they are chatting/listening to music or doing something useless...
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Perhaps, but it's in the name of revising - and then they act all shocked when you say you've not really managed much. (I'm not big on revising... never manged it very well).
Still, you're a girl - you're far more likely to know the real meaning behind what girls say they're doing than I ever will.
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Well, i live in the Netherlands so that alone should tell you something :p
But here its quite different. Sure we revise stuff but not 2 weeks long :wtf: Usually we've covered everything so many of won't do much.
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How many years ago was high school? Five now? I never had a big problem with provincials. Tests don't mean jack as soon as you get into postsecondary anyhow.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I'd rather do exams than coursework, though.
Exams have to be done, you're there at the time and you have no choice but to do them.
Coursework, on the other hand, has to be done in your own time, when there are much better things to do, like stick forks in your eyes.
Much as I hate exams, and the boredom created by finishing with 30 minutes to go, there are far more preferable to coursework.
OH, and I have never revised for any exam in my life, but I might just do it for the GCSEs, just for a lark.
I still got all level 7's in the SATs, and there are people who did nothing but revise for 2 weeks solid and got 5s and 6s, so it just shows that revision is ****.
I adore coursework personally, 60% of my ITBS GCSE is coursework and im on A*, theres virtually no pressure on me in the exam. I only need a C grade for college.
Though, im hard to put under stress, i was more worried about my exams at the start of year 10 than i am now. I used to panic about exams, until i just decided i didn't care about the result, im just gonna do my best to get the best grade and not really care much at all.
I mean, there are 40 days until my RE exams, but if you don't panic, it'll be fine. Because i only revised one paper in my RE mock(the other one, not the marks gospel one) and still got a A*.
My whole take on things, is i am going to be revising an hour a night for the 40 days until my exam, i,ve been revising 30mins a night for two weeks. Though thats on BBC bitesize usually, while chatting in the LOE room.
The laughable thing is, our headmaster told us to revise 3 hours a day, about 2 months back. You don't need to revise for 3 hours, but you shouldn't forget it. I guess it depends on the subject
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Originally posted by Shrike
How many years ago was high school? Five now? I never had a big problem with provincials. Tests don't mean jack as soon as you get into postsecondary anyhow.
:yes:
I don't think any exam results I got made a blindest bit of difference to where I am now. Passed them all without revision anyway.
::Praises photgraphic memory::
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I think by revising you people mean reviewing or studying? I generally spend a maximum of five minutes on that per exam, if anything at all. I do like exams much better than coursework though; they may be slightly harder, but at least they are (usually) not just time-consuming junk designed to keep you busy.
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Well i've got an unconditional offer for my University course, thanks to last year's 5 A's - so i don't need any grades this year. Still, i'm putting in some work, partly for some personal satisfaction, and partly to pass the time. ;)
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Yeah, revising as in sitting down and going over what you've covered in your subject so that when it comes up in the exam you'll have thought about it a little more recently than when you first learnt it at the beginning of the year or whatever.
Me, I hate exams - as people have said they test a technique that'll probably never be required in later life - and how you do in that test dictates what you can do in later life. Sure come university you start learning something useful to you in future professions, not to mention life skills - but everything before is the greatest waste of time I've ever run across short of Corination Street (a British soap drama POS).
Oh well...
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Well you cant start degree level physics straight after primary school.
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Meh, thought you meant studying everything you've had. Not just revising... I never revise if you look at it that way :p And yet, never have I failed an exam :D
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Courseworks beat exams hands down any day.
Practically because its easier to find out information for it, than for an exam.
Academically because it reflects your real-life implimentation of the subject.
Yes exam times suck. However, its better than not having the chance to do them at all. ;)
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Are you guys referring to the state/country government type tests or mid terms/finals type tests?
Generally, we have a few tests here (California). SAT (Standardised Aptitude Test or something like) bassically it's the normal test they give us every year starting in 2nd grade (age 7) all the way to 11th Grade (age 16-17). I never study for those and usually get well within the top 5 or 2 or whatever percentile. All multiple choice so it's rather easy even if you don't know the stuff.
Once you start Junoir High (age 12 - 13) and up till the end of High school (17 - 18) They give out Golden State Exams, which are a harder version of the SAT's, but if you pass or get high scores in X amount of subjects (6 or 7 IIRC) then you can get scholar ships around $1000. I think though you have to pay to take those anytime other than when they give them to you or something, not entirely sure.
Then we have the CAHSEE (California High School Exit Exam) which determines which tards have to stay back in high school and which can leave. Aparently, the first year they started it, they let all grades take it and the Freshmen had a %80 passing rate. Obviously this meant it was a little on the easy side, as students and parents were complaining about "why their kids should even still be in highschool if they can pass the exit test." So they've been making it progressively harder each year and only let the Sophmores through Senoirs take it now (10th - 12 grades). I still heard it was stupidly easy, so I wouldn't study for that one.
Other than those, we have normal mid-terms and finals which I ocassionaly study for (only the math and bio ones really). I don't really study for the others eaither and I usually get off doing pretty good.
I still prefer testing way more than home(course)work. Like CP said, it's just crap to give you a little practice, but mainly to keep you and your teacher busy.
EDIT: Infact, now that I think about it, I particularly like tests, because it generally means the teachers don't give ut any homework.
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Awww, exams aren't so bad. Setekh and I are gonna be teachers anyway, and the universities are so desperate to get diplomas of education given out that they're throwing scholarships left, right and centre. Just concentrate on building character. ;)
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Oh great, speaking about exams two day before first pre-exam.
Which reminds me, I took English as the optional subject this year. The real exam is coming in June, but I got 1/2 points shy a perfect score in the pre-exam.
Thank you, HLP.
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Originally posted by Riven
Hey im mr happy 2day cos i just got dumped by my girlfriend so she can concentrate on her revision for gcse's!
So heres why exams suck:
Girls turn into revision freaks
Parents ***** at you cos your not revising enough
Teachers ***** at you cos you arnt taking it serious enough
Your older sister got all A*'s
They put loads of stress on you probably damaging yor health
Still stressed afterwards waiting ages for results
Exam boards tend to cock up results
Your whole future depends on them
They are no measure of inteligence just exam technique
Im a pretty layed back guy but something has just snapped!!! :mad:
Wana add anything else to this list, feel free
so, US scolar system really sucks after all, heh? :D
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Not that I'm acknowledging or denying anything, by the language he used, I don't think he's American.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Not that I'm acknowledging or denying anything, by the language he used, I don't think he's American.
If he's doing GCSE's he's probably British. I don't think any other country does them.
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my bad :p
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I heard that in America you only have 4 subjects in High School or something. How can that be hard? :wtf:
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Originally posted by Razor
I heard that in America you only have 4 subjects in High School or something. How can that be hard? :wtf:
Cram it into a few months and couple with the fact that you can potentially go two semesters of study without a subject (say Math) and you begin to see how things can become difficult. What is gained in less courses is more than made up for in fast paced learning where little is actually digested and much ground is covered.
University is by far the better system however. Learning is fast but in-depth and since you usually care about what your studying for its far more interesting.
Exams do suck and they are one hell of a marathon and I hated every minute of them in high school but high school in itself is a measure of personal courage and something to be endured. This is life striking out at you and saying "what, you thought it'd be a cake walk?". If you survive and learn from the experience, then you'll be better for it.
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4 subjects!? I don't care how difficult that is, it seems freaky to me. We had a fargin' 12 subjects in our exam years in High School. (Only 10 of them had exams though)
And don't tell me we went easy with so many subjects. We went pretty far with each subject.
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But did you choose what subjects to take?
We had the choice, which of course affected how many exams there were to take.
I took GNVQ business, which was the equivalent of four GCSEs, so I had only a handful of others to take. English, Maths, Dual Science and History.
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Originally posted by Tiara
4 subjects!? I don't care how difficult that is, it seems freaky to me. We had a fargin' 12 subjects in our exam years in High School. (Only 10 of them had exams though)
And don't tell me we went easy with so many subjects. We went pretty far with each subject.
yeah, same here. 4 subjects, that's, well... :p
how many hours per week do you have for school/college/whatever?
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I'm going to take 4 A Levels, which is going to be very stresfull, but I'm not going to care!
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Originally posted by Tiara
4 subjects!? I don't care how difficult that is, it seems freaky to me. We had a fargin' 12 subjects in our exam years in High School. (Only 10 of them had exams though)
And don't tell me we went easy with so many subjects. We went pretty far with each subject.
what level?
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Originally posted by vyper
what level?
We have a different system. We don't use A, B levels and stuff.
We have all subjects on 1 level. But every student can be at a different level alltogether. Each level of education has different speeds , methods etc.
Our levels (low to high): LMBO, HAVO, Atheneum, Gymnasium. (there are lower ones then LMBO but thats special education)
I was at Gymnasium.
HAVO, Atheneum and Gymnasium have the same subjects (with a few optional in the exam years). Just the speed and methods are different. (With the exception of Greek and Latin as extra subjects on Gymnasium.)
Atheneum and gymnasium graduates can go to the uni :)
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Originally posted by Razor
I heard that in America you only have 4 subjects in High School or something. How can that be hard? :wtf:
Well i don't go to an american school, but i had 5 subjects last year, and 3 this year.
Course Content
You just have a bigger - more in depth course - which is better, i did all the crappy subjects 2 years ago, now i am specialising. Why should i have to study an extra 8 subjects i'm not intrested in?
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im taking 5 A Levels next year!!!
IT, Physics, Chemistry, Maths and Further Maths
Should be fun!
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Originally posted by beatspete
Well i don't go to an american school, but i had 5 subjects last year, and 3 this year.
Course Content
You just have a bigger - more in depth course - which is better, i did all the crappy subjects 2 years ago, now i am specialising. Why should i have to study an extra 8 subjects i'm not intrested in?
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Yeah, I know math!
Que?
What!?
Je ne parle pas Anglais...
What did you call me!?
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:p
Extra subjects increase your overall knowledge which is good. Sure you can specialize. But in highschool one should learn everything (AT LEAST on a basic level) and THEN specialize in certain subjects. Thats what we have here mostly.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Extra subjects increase your overall knowledge which is good. Sure you can specialize. But in highschool one should learn everything and THEN specialize in certain subjects. Thats what we have here mostly.
Well technically I did too.
I did 8 standard grades, covering all sorts of stuff.
Then 5 Highers where i dropped all the stuff i wasnt intrested in, german, geography, and Tech Studies (which i would have liked to have done but it's not available at higher level).
This year I have 2 advanced highers, maths and Physics, and higher business management.
Its a good system, if you dont do very well in standard grades, then you can do Intermediates which then allow you to go on to highers (the ones needed for Uni) afterwards.
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Originally posted by beatspete
Well technically I did too.
I did 8 standard grades, covering all sorts of stuff.
Then 5 Highers where i dropped all the stuff i wasnt intrested in, german, geography, and Tech Studies (which i would have liked to have done but it's not available at higher level).
This year I have 2 advanced highers, maths and Physics, and higher business management.
Its a good system, if you dont do very well in standard grades, then you can do Intermediates which then allow you to go on to highers (the ones needed for Uni) afterwards.
Well, I think both systems has its positives and negatives. But I still think the system we work with is better.
But that too is is just an opinion :D
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Originally posted by Tiara
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Yeah, I know math!
Quoi?
What!?
Je ne parle pas Anglais...
What did you call me!?
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:p
oh so educational :D
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4 subjects!? I don't care how difficult that is, it seems freaky to me. We had a fargin' 12 subjects in our exam years in High School. (Only 10 of them had exams though)
And don't tell me we went easy with so many subjects. We went pretty far with each subject.
Is that 12 for each year or for the full four years? There are usually between four and six courses with exams here each year (depending on the classes one is taking), so multiply that by four.
Extra subjects increase your overall knowledge which is good. Sure you can specialize. But in highschool one should learn everything (AT LEAST on a basic level) and THEN specialize in certain subjects. Thats what we have here mostly.
This is exactly one of the things I really hated about high school, and from what I have heard, undergraduate college has the same thing to a lesser extent. For instance, some of these top-notch mathematicians today may not know a single thing about english literature, and they can still do their job perfectly fine. :p
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Originally posted by Venom
oh so educational :D
Shaddap :D
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Originally posted by Venom
oh so educational :D
Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study!
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4 classes, where'd you hear that? It's true, but only on senoir year.
You could if you wanted to, but only if you are a dumbass or don't want to go anywhere. You can get your 12th grade year with only 3 periods a day if you do all of the prerequisites before or whatever so you only have english, a science, and whatever class they say you have to have. It's basically a "I just want to get out of here" option though.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study! Study!
mmhh.... I think you got it ;)
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Believe it or not, I was watching the swimming episode and browsing the forums when that came up ;)
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Believe it or not, I was watching the swimming episode and browsing the forums when that came up ;)
:cool:
that's just l33t :D
I like the one with the biker girl better tho ;)
"and he might even save the world! then again, maybe not :doubt: " :D
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Originally posted by Riven
im taking 5 A Levels next year!!!
IT, Physics, Chemistry, Maths and Further Maths
Should be fun!
You sir, are a masochist!
BTW, the college I am going to is offerning industry-standard courses in Flash/Dreamweaver, Photoshop/Premiere, and one other.
Anyone recommend them?
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School whats that?:p
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Exams suck cuz you have to go learn everything that you didn't pay attention to during the year!
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Originally posted by Corsair
Exams suck cuz you have to go learn everything that you didn't pay attention to during the year!
Something like that. Well personally, I really really hate school. If there weren't for chicks, I would have quit school a long time ago.
School whats that?
Bastard!!! :mad2: :drevil:
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
You sir, are a masochist!
BTW, the college I am going to is offerning industry-standard courses in Flash/Dreamweaver, Photoshop/Premiere, and one other.
Anyone recommend them?
I wish i could do something like that, but the only thing the college im going to offers thats close to that seems to be 3d art, which is probably clay nonsense.
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Exams aren't so bad. Here in the Redneck Belt most of the instructors don't give comprehensive finals, they focus on the material covered since the last test.
Oh, and speaking of finals, I'm graduating on May 9th. And before you ask, it's an Associate of Computer Science Technology degree or sumsuch like that.
When I was in High School, we had 6 classes and a study hall a day, technically 7 classes. The main choices we had were to either focus in math(trig and calculus), physical science(chemistry and physics) or biological science(botany and physiology). We had no art and no computer classes to speak of. Bearing in mind I graduated in 1996.