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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tiara on April 29, 2003, 02:47:57 am
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This is a poll for my game but also in general.
(These options are all with average use of swearing and nudity, not excessive usage)
Personally I don't mind swearing and nudity at all. If used right it can enhance the game.
Also a reason I'm asking this is cause I want to know if i should make 2 versions of my RPG. One clean and one with the swearing and nudity. (Please add comments on this to your post as well)
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****, yes.
Honest answer? Eh. You shouldn't be going out of your way to create either extreme. You've got a character who needs to say ****, let 'im say ****- creative swearing from interesting characters can make a really good side... thing for any story, game, whatever. They need to be naked in the context of what's going on, well, why not? This isn't a mass market affair, you won't have little old ladies in tennis shoes screaming for your blood and you won't have 50,000 cellar-bound dweebs playing the one-string fiddle over derivative porn of your characters. Hopefully.
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well it depends on the context: take Kingpin for example "****" was practically every second word uttered and thus spoiled the overall feel (and impact) of the game.. same goes for nudity, overuse and the game loses it's impact...
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Originally posted by Tiara
This is a poll for my game but also in general.
(These options are all with average use of swearing and nudity, not excessive usage)
Personally I don't mind swearing and nudity at all. If used right it can enhance the game.
Also a reason I'm asking this is cause I want to know if i should make 2 versions of my RPG. One clean and one with the swearing and nudity. (Please add comments on this to your post as well)
I like stufd to be how it should be. I can't imagine a teenager, dunno, falling and saying "how, god forbid, I fell and hurt the leg"
, but " ****, that hurts!". Also if you look at a g... character taking a shower, there's no mosaic appearing by magic in front of the strategic areas ( thanks Pete :p ).
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Originally posted by Turnsky
well it depends on the context: take Kingpin for example "****" was practically every second word uttered and thus spoiled the overall feel (and impact) of the game.. same goes for nudity, overuse and the game loses it's impact...
mmh? kingpin was cool. I dunno how it is in the States or any other country, but in France, in the downtowns and suburbs, you couldn't believe how much sweearing they can place in one single short sentence. I could bet it's the same everywhere else anyway. Considering the environement, Kingpin was accurate, at worst.
Nudity, well, pb don't occur usually, games with nudity are rated 18+ usually, coz it's all pr0n or all nothing.
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It depends. If you can catch the street slang properly, sometimes the cursing every other word thing works (I've only seen it done for emphasis or when someone's pissed, but maybe we have mild-mannered crackheads out here). Unfortunately, large corporations and computer geeks generally can't simulate street slang to any good degree. Which is a good thing, 'cos that's part of the point.
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well i didn't say i didn't like it:p
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lol, btw, read Trainspotting :D ( it was damn hard, it's scottish, they don't uuse the same words than english people :blah: ), that's close enough to how it really is ( well, that's exactly how it is, in fact ). tho scotish people lack imagination, they have only three swearing words, it seems :doubt:
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Originally posted by Venom
Nudity, well, pb don't occur usually, games with nudity are rated 18+ usually, coz it's all pr0n or all nothing.
:wtf:
Topless does NOT equal pr0n. HELL, full nudity does NOT equal pr0n. I didn't say Hard Core pr0n, I said nudity :p
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Nudity should only be used on lead female characters to emphasis beauty. And even then, her hair should be strategically whispy.
Scottish swear-words: ****, ****, Bastard.
And comedy is always more preferable to out-right swearing.
Ie: Instead of "ARGH! My ****ing leg!" have a little "Ow!" appear and then every few seconds have the character fall flat on his face. Or say something like "Hmm. I'm no doctor, but being able to see the bone can't be a good thing."
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Originally posted by Tiara
:wtf:
Topless does NOT equal pr0n. HELL, full nudity does NOT equal pr0n. I didn't say Hard Core pr0n, I said nudity :p
I know, read what I said again :p
in games, either you have porn, either you have nothing. I haven't seen any normal game with topless or nudity. hell, even n duke3d, they managed to avoid it even if the game is full of chicks.
and An0n: you're 100% right, but it also depends about the tone of the game, I think.
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Originally posted by an0n
Scottish swear-words: ****, ****, Bastard.
Think the filter needs some work :D
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Being vulgar is not really good for the game me thinks. (http://www.clicksmilie.de/sammlung/engel/angel-smiley-016.gif)
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[Shi] vulgar - sure... just don't take your idea of vulgar from games like "Divi Dead" or "X-change" :p
vulgarity is only bad in overuse...
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go for it, but an0n is right. And I don't want to see any unclothed men. If I wanted that, i'd check my email or something.
Vulgarity should be used in extreme situations... tense fights and so on, but if the guys wounded, then comedy is always better.
On a side note, I don't think i've looked forward to a game this much since BMX XXX :wink:
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
On a side note, I don't think i've looked forward to a game this much since BMX XXX :wink:
And thats supposed to mean... what exactly? :p
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t'was a joke... I think. :nervous:
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[color=66ff00]Properly used, swearing can be funny, provoking and add emphasis to a situation.
From the opposite aspect though; swearing can make you look like a brainless idiot with no imagination.
Nudity on the other hand; I can accept the naked female form as art in it's most pure form, I can't see it working in a game like this though unless it's very carefully used.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
go for it, but an0n is right.
DUH!
And I don't want to see any unclothed men. If I wanted that, i'd check my email or something.
Stealth been harrassing you again?
And I find it funny that people (in this case Maeg) say they can appreciate the female form purely from an artistic point of view, but are reviled by the thought of having to look at naked men.
God, I hate everyone so much.
*goes to cut himself and listen to Slipknot*
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Art's the stuff that makes you horny, right?
Oh, wait, that's porn. Damn, I keep getting those mixed up. At any rate, it isn't actually "art" unless someone made it, and short of reenacting your favorite scene from Silence of the Lambs it's pretty difficult to make a woman.
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Profanity is okay.
For nudity...if it has to do something with with the plot, then okay. I woudn't need any 5 minute sex scenes or anything.
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Originally posted by an0n
And I find it funny that people (in this case Maeg) say they can appreciate the female form purely from an artistic point of view, but are reviled by the thought of having to look at naked men.
God, I hate everyone so much.
*goes to cut himself and listen to Slipknot*
[color=66ff00]I assumed that the only nude characters in the story would be female. *shrugs*
I didn't say anything about reviling naked men, doesn't bother me in the least if Ms. T. wants to put that kinda content in her game if she recons it's appropriate. *shrugs again*
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to be honest, I can hardly imagine nudity with 15 pixels tall sprites anyway :p
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Originally posted by Venom
to be honest, I can hardly imagine nudity with 15 pixels tall sprites anyway :p
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Originally posted by Venom
to be honest, I can hardly imagine nudity with 15 pixels tall sprites anyway :p
[Sensorboard] My god! That's a nipple![/Sensorboard]
[Tiara]No, it's a stray pixel[/Tiara]
:ha:
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Vulgarity? Time for Buffy's swearing keyboard (http://www.rathergood.com/buffy/) again :thepimp:
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Originally posted by Tiara
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well some fanservice can't hurt ;7
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Don't make me castrate you with a shovel, boy.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Don't make me castrate you with a shovel, boy.
I wanna see that, tough guy :p
anyway, why that?
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Because it was the nearest sharpish implement on hand to write about, and because I don't want pervert blood on my machete.:p
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Originally posted by an0n
And I find it funny that people (in this case Maeg) say they can appreciate the female form purely from an artistic point of view, but are reviled by the thought of having to look at naked men.
God, I hate everyone so much.
*goes to cut himself and listen to Slipknot*
I'm not terribly reviled about it, I just already get my daily dose of penis from the locker room and other said sources.
And back to the general topic, where the hell in the story would you show titties/penii ( I know ses 'll get me on this one :p ) in the story with lil' pixil characters running about? I think it'd be hard to tell even if you did.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Because it was the nearest sharpish implement on hand to write about, and because I don't want pervert blood on my machete.:p
nah, I mean, why do you want to castrate me?
"gets crossbow ready"
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For this. Yeeech, and after I'd managed to forget that nasty-ass **** even existed and all. Take me another friggin' year to blot it out again.
Originally posted by Venom
well some fanservice can't hurt ;7
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
For this. Yeeech, and after I'd managed to forget that nasty-ass **** even existed and all. Take me another friggin' year to blot it out again.
what's wrong with it? you don't like miniskirts and stuff? :D
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I'm not terribly reviled about it, I just already get my daily dose of penis from the locker room and other said sources.
And back to the general topic, where the hell in the story would you show titties/penii ( I know ses 'll get me on this one :p ) in the story with lil' pixil characters running about? I think it'd be hard to tell even if you did.
i can show pics in-game...
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Am I the only one who finds this thread slightly amusing?
:nervous:
Anyway, vulgarity=:no:
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as long as it's tasteful. getting your shirt torn in a knife battle and such, but no spontanious donkey sex.
ummm...what part of the game would you want nudity in, anyway?
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Oh, and make Spontaneous Donkey Sex an attack.
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Nah, IF there is going to be any nudity it will be at most topless and happen at most 1 or 2 times in a fitting situation.
And if you people call topless vulgarity, I suggest you move to the Vatican or something. :p
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Originally posted by Tiara
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Nah, IF there is going to be any nudity it will be at most topless and happen at most 1 or 2 times in a fitting situation.
And if you people call topless vulgarity, I suggest you move to the Vatican or something. :p
if you want someone to draw the pics or stuff, I'll glady help. btw, is it anime style?
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Enlisted Turnsky for that. :)
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;)
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not even giving me my chance? :)
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Nah, I just don't want 2 different styles of pictures in my game.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Nah, I just don't want 2 different styles of pictures in my game.
[color=66ff00]I fully respect your decision as orchestrator of this project, but I thought this was a community effort and considering the current level of lunacy with the characters why not have more than one artist? Variety is the spice of life afterall. :nod:
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]I fully respect your decision as orchestrator of this project, but I thought this was a community effort and considering the current level of lunacy with the characters why not have more than one artist? Variety is the spice of life afterall. :nod:
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I guess you got a point there :) Well, anyone who wants to send in his/her pictures can do so! ;)
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Originally posted by Tiara
I guess you got a point there :) Well, anyone who wants to send in his/her pictures can do so! ;)
well, do you know how my drawings look, at least? you might want to take a look :)
go there:
http://www.swooh.com/premium/venom/index2.html
then in the "divers" menu. lots of stuff, some of them are drawings by me ( quite old, but hey, that means I've improved since then ;) ) tell me what you think :).
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Originally posted by Tiara
I guess you got a point there :) Well, anyone who wants to send in his/her pictures can do so! ;)
[color=66ff00]You should set some parameters though, filetype, number of colours, size etc.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]You should set some parameters though, filetype, number of colours, size etc.
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well, I'm pretty sure it's 640*480, 256 colors. so any pic should do, she can cut/adjust easily, with something like that :) ( excepted if it's smaller than that :lol: )
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- Color limit is 256
- size limit: 320x240 (I know, its small but its the best the engine can handle without going out of bounds).
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:nervous:
FREE KEVIN!
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Kevin Mitnick?
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And I thought you finished off the absinth two days ago...