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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Shiva-jin Buu on May 05, 2003, 11:36:02 am
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hello again....
um isn't your 3d card supposed to be "detected" when you click the "detect" buuton in the launcher setup tab??
I have a geForce II mx, but it won't be detecetd.......
help me please!!!!!!!
FreeSpace 1 AND 2 (!!!!!!!!!) just look so much better with real graphics....
BTW i have this problem with both FS 1 and 2...
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It's very likely to be a driver problem... check your Device Manager to see if there're any problems with the card (it'll be listed under Display Adapters).
If other games work with D3D acceleration though, then the problem may indeed be FS2.
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yea it does seem to work with CS, so I thought I needed a patch, or a codec or whatever it's called....
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Maybe a DirectX reinstall..
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You know, I thought you needed 3D hardware to run FS2. Guess I must have been wrong :)
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Originally posted by karajorma
You know, I thought you needed 3D hardware to run FS2. Guess I must have been wrong :)
Re-read his post. He said Freespace, not Freespace2, looked better with "real graphics". ;)
Anyways, what dets are you using? I highly recommend sticking with the 40.71 set. The later ones have nothing but issues with them. (it seems nVidia has inherited ATi's previous problem with ****ty drivers before they cleaned up their act)
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
Re-read his post. He said Freespace, not Freespace2, looked better with "real graphics". ;)
Something tells me you'd be better off taking your own advice :p
Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
BTW i have this problem with both FS 1 and 2...
So I'll ask again. How on Earth are you playing FS2 without it detecting your 3D card?
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i do have a "primary display driver" that works, but it looks fairly ****ty... my previous computer had the same thing, i could choose between the primary driver and the voodoo i had back then.
so...
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Umm. Is it Direct 3D - Primary Display Driver? Cause I don't know how to tell you this but that IS your 3D graphics card! :D
If you want to improve the graphics try the Registry Hacks from the technical section of my website. Beyond that ****ty graphics are the fault of
1) Your graphics card
2) Your monitor
3) Your eyes
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?!?!?!?!?!? then why did the voodoo 2 from my old computer replace the "direct 3d primary display driver" with its own name ???? am i going nucking futs??
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Maybe it depends on the card. If you were using a Voodoo card you were probably running the game under glide rather than D3D and that probably shows up differently.
As far as I'm aware you need a D3D 5 compatable 3D card to play FS2. There is no software rendering option so if it works then you're getting the 3D card's output.
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true, true.
yea tha'ts it! it showed 3dfx gilde.... hmmm now it makes just a little bit more sense. ok... time to re-test...
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ok i've done some testing...
the models of the ships look great, so that problem's gone
however, the explosions and the warps still look bad... like it's very low res or something. sounds familiar to anyone??
btw everything does seem to work perfectly in FS2..., the problem is with FS 1.
help me again please...
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if your using xp right click on the freespace icon and find the tab that has capatibilty modes on. Then swtich it to a win os you know that will work with your joy/gamepad and the vid card.
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it seems that the "registry hack' did the trick. Now the only thing that's left is the fact that the stars dissappear when standing still. When i move my reticle the stars appear, but as i come to a halt, they gradually vanish: which is very annoying. Does this have anything to do with my desktop resolutyion (1152 x 864)???
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Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
it seems that the "registry hack' did the trick. Now the only thing that's left is the fact that the stars dissappear when standing still. When i move my reticle the stars appear, but as i come to a halt, they gradually vanish: which is very annoying. Does this have anything to do with my desktop resolutyion (1152 x 864)???
nope, it's the anti-aliasing, don't know the sulotion right now, someone will tell you soon.
this is a known problem, check the VWBB too.
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Yep. That's definately antialiasing. You can solve the by turning antialiasing off from the advanced section of your display properties control panel in Windows but that's kind of like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
I'd rather live without the stars than live without antialiasing in all my games. :)
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if you have that nvidia media center thingy in the traybar, you can disable it from there...
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thanks guys :)
wait, I can't seem to find it!! jeezz...
in the advanced display tab... well uhm ?????
im being very annoying i know... :o :confused:
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ehrrm...
on the tab where you change resolutions, there's a button called "advanced" or something. click it. on the window that pops up, click the upper right tab (geforce something something).
should be there somewhere.
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hmmmmmm what is the dutch equivelant f antialiasing?
im getting all kinds of options in dutch, but no "antialiasing". oh wth ill keep arbitrarily trying... hope i don't mess things up :D
*now needs the dutch translation of antialiasing*
:sigh:
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The newer versions of FS2Open have built-in anti-aliasing without dissapearing stars.
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Disabling FSAA does not get rid of the FS1 problem of disapearing stars. I tried every typical way to try and fix that problem and it will not be fixed. Accept it and move on :)
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Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
hmmmmmm what is the dutch equivelant f antialiasing?
im getting all kinds of options in dutch, but no "antialiasing". oh wth ill keep arbitrarily trying... hope i don't mess things up :D
*now needs the dutch translation of antialiasing*
:sigh:
in dutch it's the exact same word:D
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Dunno if it even exists... And Dark, if it exists it'd be "antialiassen"
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Originally posted by Tiara
Dunno if it even exists... And Dark, if it exists it'd be "antialiassen"
Erm...oops your right about the last part:D
Well i had dutch drivers and OS on my old pc and it said antialiasing;)
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oh well ... IceFire, I'll take your advice and put up with it... *puts on his semi-filosiphising look*
anyway, thanks everyone for your input!
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Originally posted by karajorma
Something tells me you'd be better off taking your own advice :p
Skimming is bad, mmk?
See, FS1 doesn't require a 3D accelerator. You can actually play it on an old archaic 2D card, whereas FS2 *requires* a 3D accelerator.
FreeSpace just looks so much better with real graphics....
Do you see a 2 there? I am right, you are wrong. Live with it.
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
Do you see a 2 there? I am right, you are wrong. Live with it.
1) Why did you bump a pretty much dead topic?
2) Why did you bump a dead topic to be WRONG!
Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
BTW i have this problem with both FS 1 and 2...
Do you see a two there? You are the one who is in fact wrong. You are the one who needs to live with it. :ha:
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Look again karajorma.
um isn't your 3d card supposed to be "detected" when you click the "detect" buuton in the launcher setup tab??
I have a geForce II mx, but it won't be detecetd.......
See, his problem was that neither game would detect his card.
You CANNOT play Freespace2 without a 3D accelerator. Why the frell do you think it says "3D Accelerator Required" on the front of the box if you didn't need one? (I still have the box if you don't believe me.)
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
Anyways, what dets are you using? I highly recommend sticking with the 40.71 set. The later ones have nothing but issues with them. (it seems nVidia has inherited ATi's previous problem with ****ty drivers before they cleaned up their act)
Unless of course you're running XP... then you want the latest...
Nothing but problems with the older versions on XP....
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Are you just incapable of admiting you're wrong Vertigo?
At least you now realise that the problem was affecting both games rather than continuing the stupidity of arguing that it was an FS1 only problem.
As for needing a graphics card to play FS2 I suggest again that you look at the thread.
Originally posted by karajorma
As far as I'm aware you need a D3D 5 compatable 3D card to play FS2. There is no software rendering option so if it works then you're getting the 3D card's output.
I ask again. Why did you bump this thread just to prove your wrongness?
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Originally posted by Thorn
Unless of course you're running XP... then you want the latest...
Nothing but problems with the older versions on XP....
Unless you're running a DVD-ROM. See, theres a glitch in all the later drivers that pretty much forbids you from playing any DVDs. Every software available will error out with something along the lines of either it not liking you having a TV-out function on your video card, or it *****es about your software copyright protection finding an error.
more info (http://www.descentbb.net/ubb/Forum8/HTML/005282.html)
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Originally posted by karajorma
Are you just incapable of admiting you're wrong Vertigo?
At least you now realise that the problem was affecting both games rather than continuing the stupidity of arguing that it was an FS1 only problem.
I wasn't argueing that it was a FS1 only problem you nitwit! I proved time and time again that FS1 doesn't require a 3D accelerator (ie: his mentioning that it looks better with REAL graphics, ie: in 3D mode).
As for needing a graphics card to play FS2 I suggest again that you look at the thread.
*sigh*
Straight from the FS2 box:
(http://vertigo1-2.freeyellow.com/FS2_cover.jpg)
However, if you look at the requirements for FS1...
Pentium 133 with 3D accelerator (with D3D or Glide mode), Pentium 166 without 3D accelerator
Thats a direct quote from the box. (yes, I kept that one too! I'm like a hermit crab when it comes to this stuff! :p)
I ask again. Why did you bump this thread just to prove your wrongness?
At the time, the thread was marked as "new replies" since I hadn't visited this board in a while. (I do have other things that are more important than this board after all....like college graduation!) Why can't you just admit you mis-read the damn post already?
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Originally posted by Vertigo1
I wasn't argueing that it was a FS1 only problem you nitwit! I proved time and time again that FS1 doesn't require a 3D accelerator (ie: his mentioning that it looks better with REAL graphics, ie: in 3D mode).
You're just embarrassing yourself now. Did I ever say you needed a graphics card to play FS1? Find me where I said that? I know damn well that FS1 doesn't require a 3D graphics card and never said anything to the contrary.
Originally posted by Vertigo1
Straight from the FS2 box:
(http://vertigo1-2.freeyellow.com/FS2_cover.jpg)
I don't know why you even bothered to post that. As I've already posted I know that FS2 requires hardware acceleration. I even quoted my earlier post to prove that I knew that. I really don't see what point you're failing to make here.
Originally posted by Vertigo1
At the time, the thread was marked as "new replies" since I hadn't visited this board in a while. (I do have other things that are more important than this board after all....like college graduation!) Why can't you just admit you mis-read the damn post already?
Cause I didn't. Oddly enough Shiva-jin Buu appears to have edited the original statement in my support but even the original is at it's worst ambiguous and at best completely supporting my side of the agruement.
FreeSpace just looks so much better with real graphics....
BTW i have this problem with both FS 1 and 2...
Shiva-jin Buu believed (wrongly) that FS1 & 2 wasn't detecting his graphics card because previously he had played on Glide which shows a different name in the Currently Selected Video Mode box. I solved his problem.
He had a couple of other problems and I helped (with others) to solve that one too.
The thread should have ended there. What I don't understand is why you're embarrassing yourself trying to disprove a point I didn't even make?