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Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 07, 2003, 01:33:07 am: (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/vanircell.jpg)
well?

done entierly in TS with a small bit of retouching to fix an odd bug in the planet

this was another material and efect test
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 07, 2003, 08:33:37 am: Like it!

Something about it looks very odd, but I don't know what.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 07, 2003, 10:20:17 am: probly the planet, I had to basicly blur it out by hand becase it had this weird patrun caused probly by the weird way I made it
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Ashrak on May 07, 2003, 10:47:18 am: the edges on everything are pitch black....it looks like it has been painted with a brush :)
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Post by: Razor on May 07, 2003, 10:47:41 am: Looks to me like it's done in Paint. Not really 3d. The lighting should be fixed and the textures as well. Use something from FS.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 07, 2003, 11:09:15 am: it requres major reworking of the textures (removal of detail and makeing everything solid colors) and for some reason I can't seem to get the outline to work very well on decompiled FS ships, wich sucks :doubt:

and the lighting and non-3dnes is sort of the point, it's cell shadeing it's suposed to look like a drawing or cartoon
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Post by: Starks on May 07, 2003, 01:34:41 pm: Cel-shaded Link... Meet a happy Cel-shaded Shivan.
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 07, 2003, 02:17:48 pm: *would like to know how to do cell-shading in TS* :nod:
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Post by: Carl on May 07, 2003, 03:43:47 pm: you must d/l a plug-in.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 07, 2003, 09:30:01 pm: best single source for TS plugins (http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/cgf/tsx_e.html)

for cell shadeing go here (http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/cgf/zip/as102a.zip)
for the outline go here (http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/cgf/zip/toonedge.zip)
(that's the 5.x version, though I think it will work in 3 and up)
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 12:24:05 am: (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/heckcell.jpg) (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/heckcell_2.jpg)
(click for larger image)
note I didn't apply the outline to the turrets yet

quick and crappy animation (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/heckanimetest.avi)
(I was testing a starfeild generator, It didn't like being minimized aparently)
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Post by: Turnsky on May 08, 2003, 01:12:51 am: nice:nod: , one gripe i have tho... RTFT:p
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 01:22:08 am: I was going to after I get the outlines working on them
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Turnsky on May 08, 2003, 01:36:30 am: i didn't say it wasn't good or anything..:p

you sir, kick arse...
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 01:39:12 am: thanks,

"i didn't it wasn't good or anything"
I think you forgot a word in there :D
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Post by: Turnsky on May 08, 2003, 01:52:54 am: forgot to add 'say'... fixed now.... speaking of cell shading i'd best get to work on something myself:)
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 02:15:12 am: if anyone is planing on playing with this for FS renders you'll need to alter the textures of what ever you are rendering to make them more sutable for cell shadeing here are two examples I hade to do for the Heckate

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/capital4.jpg)(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/capital4anime.jpg)

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/capital7.jpg)(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/capital7anime.jpg)

it's actualy a lot more work than it looks like
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Starks on May 08, 2003, 05:27:56 am: Do a Sathanas, or cel-shade render the Deimos/Rhakshasa duel.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 08, 2003, 06:06:44 am: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
if anyone is planing on playing with this for FS renders you'll need to alter the textures of what ever you are rendering to make them more sutable for cell shadeing here are two examples I hade to do for the Heckate

it's actualy a lot more work than it looks like

Now that is masochism!
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 09:46:05 pm: no that is fun!
wheee!!!!!
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Post by: Starks on May 08, 2003, 09:48:55 pm: It's like recycling a Colossus and then using its remains to creat 50 Aeolusi.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 10:09:26 pm: :wtf: :confused: hu...
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 10:11:56 pm: ... anyway
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/maracell.jpg)
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Starks on May 08, 2003, 10:13:31 pm: *Sheds a tear* I never knew Shivans could look so cute and cuddley.
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Post by: Turnsky on May 08, 2003, 10:25:13 pm: yeah, cute.... right until they rip your head off:p
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 08, 2003, 10:29:25 pm: That's budgies you're thinking of. Shivans just kinda shoot you with their little plasma thing.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2003, 10:32:52 pm: they could also gut you with that cool glowing knife thingy, actualy from what we've seen they like getting close and personal a lot
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Styxx on May 09, 2003, 07:55:43 am: You sure have loads of free time on your hands.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 09, 2003, 10:35:12 am: not realy, it only takes about an hour or so to get one of these working
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Post by: Nico on May 09, 2003, 10:57:17 am: keep thin outlines like for the hecate, looks better.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: J.F.K. on May 10, 2003, 02:36:46 am: I think it looks pretty good. Why'd you want to, though, is beyond me for now. :)
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Post by: Turnsky on May 10, 2003, 02:39:58 am: 'cause he can:nod:

oh yeah, happy B'Day JFK... now register in the Angels Graveyard (http://www.angelsgraveyard.com/forum) :thepimp:

and when i some of this foxfire stuff put away, i'll do a sketch of ya... sam fisher style:cool:
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 25, 2003, 10:46:36 pm: one more (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/gothtest.avi)
:D
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Turnsky on May 25, 2003, 10:50:46 pm: you cell-shaded the golgotha?.....

NICE:nod: :yes:

i'm guessing the lack of engine glow was an oversight yes?
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on May 25, 2003, 11:15:29 pm: yes, a slight oversight,
I was thinking of doing a bit of an animation played to chop suey with an all out fight between the Golgotha fleet and some SOL forces (though I would not be able to publish it until BWO was done) focusing on two fighters as the animation progresses, I had started on one but it had been takeing too long to render but now I think I might be able to do it
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Turnsky on May 25, 2003, 11:17:02 pm: that reminds me...

*goes to look at BWO forums*
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Post by: Ace on May 26, 2003, 01:14:05 pm: The Hecate always reminded me of the Concordia (WC2) and when cel-shaded it really looks like a WC2 ship :p
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Post by: Gloriano on May 27, 2003, 11:27:50 pm: Nice:)
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on June 29, 2003, 05:39:53 am: I just found what is i my opinion a much better cell shader (http://tsx.uvworx.com/), it's the uvtoon one, it's got a lot more controle and I think looks better and it has a built in outline that doesn't look like crap.
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Bobboau on July 01, 2003, 11:07:53 am: ok, look at this (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/toongirl.zip)
I set it up quick so the animation isn't very smooth, and there is a bit of a bug in the under arm aria that I should fix, but it should give you some idea about what that shader is capable of (btw that whole thing rendered out in about 25 min on a p3 450, and check out the bad compression of my codec)
Title: can truespace do cell shadeing?
Post by: Havock on July 09, 2003, 07:05:28 am: actually, those cell shaded models... i like em.

can it be done?
a cel shaded mod?

it would be a neat thing, and it gives it that "over the top" look :)