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Title: north korea beam-free-all
Post by: Bobboau on May 13, 2003, 08:31:21 pm
forget the bomb, they've got a frik'n death ray (http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2732584) :lol:
don't know why but this seems funny to me.
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Post by: Knight Templar on May 13, 2003, 08:55:58 pm
US better bring in some Observers and find that ghost before it's too late...
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Post by: Blue Lion on May 13, 2003, 08:57:55 pm
I'm sorry, that title made me laugh, really hard.
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Post by: neo_hermes on May 13, 2003, 09:06:44 pm
:blah:
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Post by: CP5670 on May 13, 2003, 09:59:03 pm
eh...the "new and potentially lethal weapon" is a targeting laser? :wtf: :D

Well, I suppose it can be pretty dangerous, but they will need to modify ssm.tbl first. :D
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2003, 03:33:25 am
Die Another Day anyone? Man that Icarus cannon rocked....
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Post by: Nico on May 14, 2003, 03:47:04 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Die Another Day anyone? Man that Icarus cannon rocked....


haven't seen.
what's that icarus cannon?
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2003, 03:58:21 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Die Another Day anyone? Man that Icarus cannon rocked....


Funny, from the trailer, when you saw the rows of explosions erupting from the ground, I knew immediately that it was a minefield. I've layed/disarmed/renewed enough of them, after all. :p
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2003, 04:06:38 am
Proves that the film people knew what they were doing I guess ;)

Spoiler:

The Icarus cannon was a cannon designed by the bad guy that redirected the energy from the sun directly onto a given spot of the planet, it could illuminate an area entirely as if it was daylight or it could focus itself to create a far more powerful laser weapon that destroys anything in its path. Top stuff :)
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2003, 04:10:27 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Proves that the film people knew what they were doing I guess ;)

Spoiler:

The Icarus cannon was a cannon designed by the bad guy that redirected the energy from the sun directly onto a given spot of the planet, it could illuminate an area entirely as if it was daylight or it could focus itself to create a far more powerful laser weapon that destroys anything in its path. Top stuff :)


It was cool, but it seemed a bit out of place in a Bond movie, for some reason. Cliched from C&C, I guess. :p
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Post by: Admiral LSD on May 14, 2003, 04:15:03 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Proves that the film people knew what they were doing I guess ;)

Spoiler:

The Icarus cannon was a cannon designed by the bad guy that redirected the energy from the sun directly onto a given spot of the planet, it could illuminate an area entirely as if it was daylight or it could focus itself to create a far more powerful laser weapon that destroys anything in its path. Top stuff :)


It was just a space-borne version of the Solex system from The Man with the Golden Gun but that may have been the point, I'm still not sure...
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Post by: Nico on May 14, 2003, 07:59:55 am
yeah, or the golden eye, etc etc.
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 08:14:25 am
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forget the bomb, they've got a frik'n death ray


YES!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
I suppose the next thing they'll sayis : All your nukes are belong to us. *A flashy beam  hits the white house.* Hey who said the Icarus device can't be built? :D
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Post by: RangerKarl on May 14, 2003, 08:24:02 am
Bah, better to put giant DU rocket-propelled darts up there. More bang for your buck!
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Post by: beatspete on May 14, 2003, 10:11:19 am
w00t.  They lit up 2 american hellicopters.
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Post by: an0n on May 14, 2003, 10:31:08 am
That'd be a ****ing hoot.

If they managed to get a working uber-laser the US would be ****ed as there's pretty much no defence against it. It's reliable, long-range, powerful, infinitely scalable and requires no restricted components to build.

"Okay Georgey, we'll surrender all our nuclear materials."
*laser tears apart the convoy sent to retrieve it just as it enters american territory*
*thermonuclear explosion ensues*
"Dude, we told you that **** was dangerous."

Not to mention they could take out American communication satellites and screw the armed forces beyond belief.
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2003, 11:11:24 am
There is defence.... other lasers ;)

I mean do you really think the US hasnt been working on them? Sure I've no proof of it but if others have it's a fair bet that the US and/or other countries have investigated defence and retaliation against them.

Plus, lasers need a lot of power as far as I can make out, that doesn't always leave much room for deployment.
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Post by: RangerKarl on May 14, 2003, 11:29:46 am
I imagine you could bring one las-sat down with ASAT missiles coming in from different vectors. It shouldn't be an insurmountable task to take it out when it can only take on 1 target at a time.
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Post by: vyper on May 14, 2003, 12:03:57 pm
Shield technology anyone? ;7
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Post by: RangerKarl on May 14, 2003, 12:14:32 pm
Oh brother........
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 14, 2003, 12:43:09 pm
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www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type98.asp

ACTIVE PROTECTION: The Type 98 features an JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defence device. Unlike contemporary Russian active tank self-defense systems like Drozd, Drozd-2, and Arena, which launch projectiles to disable or "shoot-down" incoming anti-tank missiles and projectiles, the Chinese system apparently uses a high-powered laser to directly attack the enemy weapon's optics and gunner.

The system includes what appears to be a laser warning receiver (LWR - the dome-shaped device on the turret roof behind the commander's position), that warns the crew that their tank is being illuminated by an enemy range-finding or weapon-guidance laser. The turret of the tank can then be traversed to face the direction of the enemy threat, and the laser self-defence weapon (LSDW - the box-shaped device on the turret roof behind the gunner's position), can be employed against the source of the enemy laser.

The procedure of the laser weapon would first use a low-powered beam to locate the optics of the enemy weapon. Once the enemy weapon was located, the power level of the laser would be immediately and dramatically increased. Such an attack would disable the guidance optics of the enemy weapon and/or damage the eyesight of the enemy gunner.

The available photos of the Type 98 have also confirmed that the laser weapon can be elevated to a higher angle than the tank's main gun, indicating that the engagement of attack helicopters is possible. In addition, the laser device could also be used for communications between friend tanks.




Thats the brand spanking new Type 98 MBT that just entered service.
Me thinks the Chinamen are helping the koreans, uh oh. :nervous:
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 01:08:17 pm
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Originally posted by beatspete
w00t.  They lit up 2 american hellicopters.

Yes! :p Good job NKs! :yes: Show'em who runs the show now.


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Shield technology anyone?


George Bush: My dear Americans. It has to come to my attention that my ass will be endangered by the North Korea's new straigh-lined light thingy...eeeh... technology (taking Bushes supreme intellect into account). So as your leader, I command that you make a human shield around me and my little white house in order to protect it...ehh..my arse that is. Don't worry, all of you who die will be rewarded in hel...ehh I mean heaven and the rest of you who survive will be used in every next attack that comes.

No shield is more powerfull than the one of humans who blindely follow their "great leader".

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don't know why but this seems funny to me.


Several months later....
Bob: Are you freakin insane??? :mad2: They are threatening us with their new weapon of mass destruction. We must urge da president to nuke da bastards. Nuke em you bi*ch...NUKE EM! :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
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Post by: an0n on May 14, 2003, 01:12:23 pm
More like: ARGH! They've harnessed the power of the Sun with black magic!


Also: :hopping:
:wtf:
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 14, 2003, 01:19:21 pm
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Originally posted by Razor

George Bush: My dear Americans. It has to come to my attention that my ass will be endangered by the North Korea's new straigh-lined light thingy...eeeh... technology (taking Bushes supreme intellect into account). So as your leader, I command that you make a human shield around me and my little white house in order to protect it...ehh..my arse that is. Don't worry, all of you who die will be rewarded in hel...ehh I mean heaven and the rest of you who survive will be used in every next attack that comes.

No shield is more powerfull than the one of humans who blindely follow their "great leader".
 


Ummm... WTF?
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 01:21:23 pm
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Originally posted by tEAbAG


Ummm... WTF?


Now that's a genius at work.

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eh...the "new and potentially lethal weapon" is a targeting laser?  

Hey maybe they didn't set it on LETHAL yet. :D
Title: north korea beam-free-all
Post by: tEAbAG on May 14, 2003, 01:25:52 pm
Just wondering what human shields have to do with Bush's stupidity and chinese lasers.
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2003, 01:29:39 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
More like: ARGH! They've harnessed the power of the Sun with black magic!

Shush now ;)
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 01:33:35 pm
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Originally posted by tEAbAG
Just wondering what human shields have to do with Bush's stupidity and chinese lasers.


Chinese laser... :lol: LMAO

Spoiler:

You took it seriously did ya? Oh sorry my appology. You haven't been here for as long as the most of us
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Post by: Styxx on May 14, 2003, 02:31:06 pm
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Originally posted by Razor
Hey maybe they didn't set it on LETHAL yet. :D


Yeah, I heard it was on the "tickle" setting. :D
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Post by: an0n on May 14, 2003, 02:39:43 pm
It was set to somewhere between "Argh! My frickin eyes!" and "Not in the face! Not in the face!". It's hard to tell coz it's a small dial and the pictures on it are kinda fuzzy.
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 02:53:23 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx


Yeah, I heard it was on the "tickle" setting. :D


Wow...a cynic admin trying to be funny. Now it's just a matter of time before people start posting :lol:s. *Stares at the watch*
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2003, 03:10:58 pm
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Originally posted by Razor


Wow...a cynic admin trying to be funny. Now it's just a matter of time before people start posting :lol:s. *Stares at the watch*


Razor, why are you being such a pain in the ass?
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 14, 2003, 03:11:05 pm
Shut up, Razor.



Dammit, I want an MDW-grade laser. I suppose I need the 700-ton nuclear plant to power it, but hey...
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Post by: Styxx on May 14, 2003, 03:15:15 pm
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Originally posted by Razor
Wow... a cynic admin bored member trying to be funny earn a banning. Now it's just a matter of time before people start posting lol:s he gets the hammer. *Stares at the watch*


:rolleyes:
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Post by: an0n on May 14, 2003, 03:16:19 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Razor, why are you being such a pain in the ass?
His door just swings that way.
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Post by: Zeronet on May 14, 2003, 03:16:33 pm
:lol: :lol:
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 03:49:40 pm
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Wow... a cynic admin bored member trying to be funny earn a banning. Now it's just a matter of time before people start posting lol:s he gets the hammer. *Stares at the watch*

:doubt:

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Razor, why are you being such a pain in the ass?


No the question is...why are you starting it?
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Post by: Razor on May 14, 2003, 03:50:56 pm
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About to be hammered


Oh the pain...the terrible agony.
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 14, 2003, 04:09:24 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich


It was cool, but it seemed a bit out of place in a Bond movie, for some reason. Cliched from C&C, I guess. :p


Actually, 'twas a repeat of an earlier bond movie. I forget the name, but I remember: Jaws, Death Ray Satelite, Cable Car. This ringing any bells?
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 14, 2003, 04:14:20 pm
BTW, the US is developing it's own laser system. It's nose-mounted on a turret in a 747 (I think it's a 747)
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2003, 04:22:17 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
...It's nose-mounted on a turret in a 747...


Am I the only one to find this contradictory and amusing? ;)
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 14, 2003, 04:49:38 pm
Is this really that big a deal? I mean, so they can blind gunners/fry optics. But given the time it would take to do that, I'm sure they would be shot at first by either the tank they are attempting to blind or another.
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Post by: J.F.K. on May 15, 2003, 03:44:52 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
I mean do you really think the US hasnt been working on them? Sure I've no proof of it but if others have it's a fair bet that the US and/or other countries have investigated defence and retaliation against them.


Mmmm, black budget. Do you know how massive the US black budget is? You could buy the whole of Australia with it several times over. :p
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Post by: Corsair on May 15, 2003, 07:39:29 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
BTW, the US is developing it's own laser system. It's nose-mounted on a turret in a 747 (I think it's a 747)

Yup. And it's not for killing tanks, it's for shooting down Scuds. Because those Patriots just don't work as well as the army says they do.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 15, 2003, 08:06:08 am
"as the Army says they do" meaning "at all", of course.

Beh. They're inefficient, inaccurate, haven't worked in a non-rigged test yet, and a fantastic waste of money, but on the other hand they're laser weapons. I mean, DUDE! I'm really torn here...
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Post by: Nico on May 15, 2003, 08:09:17 am
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Is this really that big a deal? I mean, so they can blind gunners/fry optics. But given the time it would take to do that, I'm sure they would be shot at first by either the tank they are attempting to blind or another.

? should take less than a second for a high powered laser to fry optics ( either mechanical or organic :p )
btw, everybod has laser weapons :doubt:
I even saw an israelian laser tank prototype somewhere on the net.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 15, 2003, 08:16:51 am
There's a slight difference between a major first-world nation with a huge ****in' army dabbling in experimental lasers and a tiny jungle-based third-world Communist state possibly actively making use of a functional laser cannon.;)
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Post by: Black Wolf on May 15, 2003, 09:39:29 am
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Originally posted by tEAbAG


Ummm... WTF?


Had you been here "as long as the most of us" you'd know that Razor is one of those rabidly anti American people who turn anything into a rant about how stupid the Yanks are. I mean, I don't like some of their international policies, and I wouldn't want to live there, but Razor takes it to ridiculous extremes. And he thinks he's funny when he does it. :doubt: . So don't worry, your confusion is understandable.
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Post by: Nico on May 15, 2003, 09:48:59 am
well... yeah, there's a difference between NK and Israel.
your point being?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 15, 2003, 10:06:54 am
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Originally posted by Black Wolf


Had you been here "as long as the most of us" you'd know that Razor is one of those rabidly anti American people who turn anything into a rant about how stupid the Yanks are. I mean, I don't like some of their international policies, and I wouldn't want to live there, but Razor takes it to ridiculous extremes. And he thinks he's funny when he does it. :doubt: . So don't worry, your confusion is understandable.



I consider myself to quite anti-American at times, but I bury those feeling here because of the high number of American members, for the sake of keeping the peace. Anyway, American people I have no trouble with (mostly), but the govt. and corporations that piss me off.

Razor has yet to learn how to integrate into a society of any kind.

I remember being banned from the PCG forums for violent ranting about George Bush and his "American people should ahve the right to pollute" crap, but now I have learned (for the most part) to keep such sentiments under wraps when online.
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Post by: Razor on May 15, 2003, 12:01:46 pm
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And he thinks he's funny when he does it.


Oh so it's my fault that only 1% percent of your brain is working.
I've seen comments that weren't even funny and people just started to spam the thread with LOLs. Mostly, these comments were written by someone "high up". :rolleyes: and so people just started laughing madly because of their fear of the high uppers. Like for instance the "Who wants to be a mjolnir?" thread. Oh yeah! What a joke...what a joke. :rolleyes:
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Post by: CP5670 on May 15, 2003, 12:26:26 pm
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? should take less than a second for a high powered laser to fry optics ( either mechanical or organic  )


yeah, but the thing is that this is all it would do. You could fire a missile instead in that time, which would have the same the effect but would fry the rest of the target as well. :D The main application I see with these types of lasers is for intercepting missiles.

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Had you been here "as long as the most of us" you'd know that Razor is one of those rabidly anti American people who turn anything into a rant about how stupid the Yanks are. I mean, I don't like some of their international policies, and I wouldn't want to live there, but Razor takes it to ridiculous extremes. And he thinks he's funny when he does it. :doubt: . So don't worry, your confusion is understandable.


I would be ready to put up with that if he actually had any competence and did not show his total ignorance almost every time (and on topics of his choice too); even Bush himself could do much better. If you are going to start fights all the time, at least make your arguments solid so that they actually present a challenge. :D ah well, he is "about to be hammered" anyway. :D

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Mostly, these comments were written by someone "high up".  and so people just started laughing madly because of their fear of the high uppers. Like for instance the "Who wants to be a mjolnir?" thread. Oh yeah! What a joke...what a joke.


eh...what is "someone high up?" An admin?
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Post by: Nico on May 15, 2003, 12:31:16 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670


yeah, but the thing is that this is all it would do. You could fire a missile instead in that time, which would have the same the effect but would fry the rest of the target as well. :D The main application I see with these types of lasers is for intercepting missiles.
 


well, if your read closely, you'll notice intercepting missiles is exactly what it seems to be supposed to do ( analogy to the russian antimissile missiles ;) ).
anyway, destroying the targeting system of a vehicle renders this one about useless. even more if you make the pilot blind :p.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 15, 2003, 12:46:38 pm
CP: A pilot can't see, you've got one crashed plane/helicopter. Same effect as launching a rocket, only nearly untraceable, at the moment legal, and reusable.

Razor: Yeah, those admins. Can't trust 'em, they've got everyone on the line. People who don't laugh at their jokes, you know, they take 'em into the back room, and they're never seen again.

Can also see into your mind using the electromagnetic waves from your monitor, tell if you're thinking bad thoughts about them. I got 'em foxed, though, I took some tinfoil and wrapped it around my head, they can't penetrate that...
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Post by: Razor on May 15, 2003, 01:00:50 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Razor: Yeah, those admins. Can't trust 'em, they've got everyone on the line. People who don't laugh at their jokes, you know, they take 'em into the back room, and they're never seen again.


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eh...what is "someone high up?" An admin?


Wow! I am impressed. I didn't know that some people around here have brains. :eek: When I saw that: *eh...who is someone "high up"?* I thought: It's over. This guy totally went down the drain.

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ah well, he is "about to be hammered" anyway.

Pff...like I really care. :p But hey... I see you do. Might as well do something usefull while I am still sticking around.
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 15, 2003, 01:14:53 pm
We should turn our microwave weapons on them next time they laze our stuff:nod:
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Post by: Top Gun on May 15, 2003, 02:53:51 pm
I Guess that's why they keep having powercuts;)

Take a look at this place (http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm) if you want to read something interesting. I especially liked the article about the beer brewery opening up in Peyonyang.