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Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 04:50:33 pm: To relief pressure from Stealth thread o' pimpin' I decided to create a thread about the off-topic topic in Stealth thread and make it on-topic in this thread.. (err... ok whatever)

Some rules (mainly due to the presence of underaged surfers):

- No BBQing anyone (Though the occasional flame-fart is allowed :D)
- No pr0n, explicit comments
- Keep it on-topic!

(To admins, if this is too... ermmm "hot" for this board close it :p)
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Ok, I'll set the starting topic:

Sex before, or after marriage? If before, then at what age should it be allowed?
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Personally I think its your own choice. My choice is that I don't care when I have sex.

For the age thing, I also say its your own choice. I will probably don't have anyone who agrees with my on this but meh.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 04:52:12 pm: The threads fine probably, its a topic thats been done before.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,4582.0.html
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: beatspete on May 17, 2003, 04:53:53 pm: As long as it's with the right person, and for the right reason ie not just because your drunk/want to look cool/he drives a cool car.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 04:54:16 pm: Ahh, but Zeronet, how long before it plunged the depths of debauchery?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 04:54:22 pm: A one... (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,8760.0.html)

..and a two (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,4582.0.html)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 04:56:18 pm: Well, shrike, better here then in stealths thread ;) Besides, this topic needs to be refreshed.

Ow and anyone who wishes can introduce a new topic about sex, just don't get too many :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 04:58:44 pm: Well, I've got a date with a real-life anime babe next week, should be fun. :devil:
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 04:59:08 pm: :wtf: This will end in fire.

There done.
Title: Re: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 04:59:30 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Personally I think its your own choice. My choice is that I don't care when I have sex.

For the age thing, I also say its your own choice. I will probably don't have anyone who agrees with my on this but meh.

you're wrong, I'm all with you on that. only limit if you "start" young, it has to be with someone of the same age. can't stand sickos who gets young girls.

furthermore, I think it's "safer" to have sex before marriage coz otherwise, there's more risk that once married, you wonder "how it is" outside of your couple, no matter how much you love your husband/wife. and that can lead to bad things, if you know what I mean.
my two cents on that.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 04:59:44 pm: I project this thread will spawn 800 posts, then be locked for no reason whatsoever, yet everyone be happy.

Now to the topic.

Sex before marriage: Don't care. If you get married before you have sex, that's just your luck.

What age: Above 15 apparently, since I haven't had any. Just as long as it ain´t a drunken-at-party-shagging-a-girl-you-barely-know first time. at least I definately wouldn´t want it to be. Later, perhaps, but not the first time.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:01:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep

What age: Above 15 apparently, since I haven't had any.

Sounds like me.

I believe it should be at the first sober chance you get.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:03:18 pm: let's narrow it down some more, shall we:

the first sober chance, with a girl you know more than three days, and weighs less than Queen Latifah.
Title: Re: Re: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:03:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

you're wrong, I'm all with you on that. only limit if you "start" young, it has to be with someone of the same age. can't stand sickos who gets young girls.

furthermore, I think it's "safer" to have sex before marriage coz otherwise, there's more risk that once married, you wonder "how it is" outside of your couple, no matter how much you love your husband/wife. and that can lead to bad things, if you know what I mean.
my two cents on that.

First point: True. BUT i said its your choice. If an old man seduces a little girl who doesn't know what sex is or barely, it isn't her choice. And since little children dont know or barely know what sex is they can't make that choice and automatically shouldn't have sex IMO.

And same age thing, I agree.

Second point: :nod: Although if the one you marry truly loves you, he/she shouldn't really care about that :)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:04:30 pm: Stuneap,

Yeah, that's sounds reasonable.

And preferably not with a girl who later turns out to be in someway related to you, then it'd et really weird.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:05:25 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

And preferably not with a girl who later turns out to be in someway related to you, then it'd et really weird.

Kinda obvious don't ya think? :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: kode on May 17, 2003, 05:05:35 pm: sex before or after marriage, depending on what the persons involved want.
age of consent: 15.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:06:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Kinda obvious don't ya think? :p

Well, yes, but of course you might not know at the time, or you might be really screwed up, and incestuous.(sp)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:07:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode

age of consent: 15.

Age of consent: As soon as the persons involved know what sex really is. (Usually 1 or 2 years into puberty).

So we agree mostly ;)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:07:44 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode

age of consent: 15.

You know, my cousin had a list of worldwide AoC, and in some countries it is as low as 12!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:07:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Well, yes, but of course you might not know at the time, or you might be really screwed up, and incestuous.(sp)

well then it wouldn't be your fault, would it? :)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 17, 2003, 05:08:38 pm: I take a strong stance against premarital sex with your own grandmother.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:08:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Age of consent: As soon as the persons involved know what sex really is. (Usually 1 or 2 years into puberty).

So we agree mostly ;)

Not necessarily, some people start puberty really early, I thinki I started at nine, but this is getting overly personal.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:08:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

You know, my cousin had a list of worldwide AoC, and in some countries it is as low as 12!

13 here.

of course, I have no idea, for what reason would your cousin need a list of worldwide AoC's. Unless he plan's to go globetrotting. ;7
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:09:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep

13 here

Where's here?

Wow, 2nd page in about 5 minutes!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:10:23 pm: you must be the only person on the board who does not know where I live. I must p1mp harder.

Estonia.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:10:34 pm: We don't really have an age of consent. By law its 16, but you really won't get arrested if you have sex at age 12 :p You are free to do as you please here, but when its done under influence (by adults etc) or force its just plain wrong.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:11:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
I take a strong stance against premarital sex with your own grandmother.

that's why you're like this?

oh, I'd like to add that the first time HAS to be straight sex :p ( well, all the others too, but that's another matter ).
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:11:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Not necessarily, some people start puberty really early, I thinki I started at nine, but this is getting overly personal.

How can't you get intimate with a thread like this :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: kode on May 17, 2003, 05:12:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

You know, my cousin had a list of worldwide AoC, and in some countries it is as low as 12!

like this one?
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:12:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

that's why you're like this?

oh, I'd like to add that the first time HAS to be straight sex :p ( well, all the others too, but that's another matter ).

No, let's REALLY not bring in this subject.:nod:
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:12:41 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
We don't really have an age of consent. By law its 16, but you really won't get arrested if you have sex at age 12 :p You are free to do as you please here, but when its done under influence (by adults etc) or force its just plain wrong.

It's 16 in Britain, but not really enforced, and AFAIK you cannpt get charged for rape if you are under 14. Odd.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:12:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

oh, I'd like to add that the first time HAS to be straight sex :p ( well, all the others too, but that's another matter ).

Also, you HAVE to try both sides :p :D

...errr...ok yeah... ummm whatever...
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:13:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

It's 16 in Britain, but not really enforced, and AFAIK you cannpt get charged for rape if you are under 14. Odd.

You can here, though sentence is usually juvenile prison or something similar.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:14:23 pm: KILL!

THE!!

GHEY!!!

SUBJECT!!!!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:15:33 pm: Hmmm... apparently the AoC here in Holland is 12 to 16..... lol Pretty much what I agree with. 1 or 2 years into puberty :D
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:15:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

You can here, though sentence is usually juvenile prison or something similar.

well, compared to multithousand EEK fines, being sent to a school for weird children prison thingy, so you could have easy access to heroine for the rest of your life here.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:16:03 pm: :hopping:
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:16:33 pm: I find it hard to believe that some US states have put a ban on male/male and female/female sex!

Land of Liberty?!?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:16:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
KILL!

THE!!

GHEY!!!

SUBJECT!!!!

Why r u so anti-talkaboutghey? Its perfectly normal. I'm not saying you have to become ghey :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:17:13 pm: I guess the AoC thing is mostly to prevent people like David Koresh from getting what they want.

But that doesn't really stop them so...
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:18:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I find it hard to believe that some US states have put a ban on male/male and female/female sex!

Land of Liberty?!?

:lol: Thats a very hard insult against gay people actually.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:18:18 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Why r u so anti-talkaboutghey? Its perfectly normal. I'm not saying you have to become ghey :p

I know several ghey people (the director of our school is ghey, and a really nice person I might add), I just want to be able to post without 50 posts appearing before I get to reply.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:18:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Also, you HAVE to try both sides :p :D

...errr...ok yeah... ummm whatever...

yeah, yeah, I know, by the result of your lust rate of that test in the psycholgy test thread, you obviously did :p
and I don't think I HAVE to :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:18:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I find it hard to believe that some US states have put a ban on male/male and female/female sex!

Land of Liberty?!?

Land of decency.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:19:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep

I just want to be able to post without 50 posts appearing before I get to reply.

Exaclty, I keep having to edit posts as there has been postage in the interval.

anyway, I think anal is illegal in Britain, or so they told us at school.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:20:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Land of deceny.

Meh, repressing someones nature isn't really decent IMO. If you are gay, you're gay. You can't help it. If a law restricts you for being what you are its just a moronic law.

its not like you can stop people from being gay.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:20:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Land of decency.

Well as long as it's all done in private, good luck to them, and what Tiara said.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:21:05 pm: what exactly would be the reason for that? :wtf:

Anyway, let's just hope Teno' doesn't barge in. He'd have a field day with the gay topic.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:21:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Exaclty, I keep having to edit posts as there has been postage in the interval.

anyway, I think anal is illegal in Britain, or so they told us at school.

The government telling you how to have sex? :lol: Its not like they are going to check up upon you :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:22:06 pm: Nothing wrong with people being gay, just the act.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:22:17 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

The government telling you how to have sex? :lol: Its not like they are going to check up upon you :p

Isn't there Sex Education in Dutch schools, then?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:22:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

The government telling you how to have sex? :lol: Its not like they are going to check up upon you :p

Lots of people used to get arrested for sodomy. Then some fool scrapped the law.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:22:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
Nothing wrong with people being gay, just the act.

What about lesbians?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:23:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Isn't there Sex Education in Dutch schools, then?

Sure there is. Quite some actually :p Our teacher brought sex toys and condoms to school once :D

Its really weird to see your teacher holding a vibrating dildo in front of the class you know :lol: Hilarious too!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:23:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

What about lesbians?

Same applies, the act is wrong.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:24:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Lots of people used to get arrested for sodomy. Then some fool scrapped the law.

I always laugh at the word sodomy, it just such a comical word!

a mate of mine has come up with the "Sodomy Bell". It sounds thus: "DING, aarrgghh"
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:24:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Lots of people used to get arrested for sodomy. Then some fool scrapped the law.

spycams? :lol:
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:25:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Sure there is. Quite some actually :p Our teacher brought sex toys and condoms to school once :D

Its really weird to see your teacher holding a vibrating dildo in front of the class you know :lol: Hilarious too!

If only ours was so interesting, it was just patronizing, really, all these animations and ****. And two old women discussing chlamydia.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:25:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Same applies, the act is wrong.

well, it looks very right to me ;7 ( for lesbians I mean :p )
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:26:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

well, it looks very right to me ;7 ( for lesbians I mean :p )

No arguments there!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:26:19 pm: You know, we estonians could really use a sexual education class. The best we have is our 25 y.o. male history teachers speaking about how he, quote 'hit on the laydeeez' back at the University. :rolleyes:
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:26:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Same applies, the act is wrong.

...You cannot judge other people. Don't even try to do so. Its your opinion, so I'll respect it. But don't think it'll get people on your friendly side.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:27:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
You know, we estonians could really use a sexual education class. The best we have is our 25 y.o. male history teachers speaking about how he, quote 'hit on the laydeeez' back at the University. :rolleyes:

The best sort of teachers are those who get really embarrased about the subject, and so you never have any SE lessons for about 3 years!
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:27:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
You know, we estonians could really use a sexual education class. The best we have is our 25 y.o. male history teachers speaking about how he, quote 'hit on the laydeeez' back at the University. :rolleyes:

in france, it's easy: channel four, every first saturday of each month, late in the night :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:28:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

If only ours was so interesting, it was just patronizing, really, all these animations and ****. And two old women discussing chlamydia.

Animations were damn funny! We always laughed the entire hour :D
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:28:23 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

But don't think it'll get people on your friendly side.

Unless they are Mary Whithouse's band of fundamentalists.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:28:37 pm: Its actually the Roman Catholics churches opinion. I think my current opinion is an improvement upon the days when i thought they should all be rounded up and shot.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:29:48 pm: Now, hit for a new subject:

Love, then sex

or Sex, just for the heck of it?

I'm a strong Love then Sex supporter. I'm not really into drunk bad/naughty girls, I'm more of the good, nice, big cleavage kinda girl type.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:29:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
Its actually the Roman Catholics churches opinion.

Well there you are then. If you are Catholic, then good luck to you.

You'll have to forgive me if I start singing "Every Sperm is Sacred"

:)
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:30:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Well there you are then. If you are Catholic, then good luck to you.

You'll have to forgive me if I start singing "Every Sperm is Sacred"

:)

:lol: That movie was soo funny.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:30:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
Now, hit for a new subject:

Love, then sex

or Sex, just for the heck of it?

I'm a strong Love then Sex supporter. I'm not really into drunk bad/naughty girls, I'm more of the good, nice, big cleavage kinda girl type.

depends from the time of year :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:31:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Venom

in france, it's easy: channel four, every first saturday of each month, late in the night :p

Holland:

Nederland 2: Neuken do je zo (This is how to have sex)
RTL 5: 23:00 Playboy Sex Court, erotic movies
FOX 8: After eleven o' clock: Sexcetera, erotic movies
Channel+: After midnight pr0n movies

YOU SEE!? We even have sex education on television! HA! We pwn j00! :p No for real, "neuken doe je zo" is a Sexual Education program.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Stunaep on May 17, 2003, 05:31:28 pm: in estonia, there's 3 months of autumn, and 9 months of bad weather.:p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:32:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Holland:

Nederland 2: Neuken do je zo (This is how to have sex)
RTL 5: 23:00 Playboy Sex Court, erotic movies
FOX 8: After eleven o' clock: Sexcetera, erotic movies
Channel+: After midnight pr0n movies

YOU SEE!? We even have sex education on television! HA! We pwn j00! :p No for real, "neuken doe je zo" is a Sexual Education program.

The rest of us can just use the good old electric Internet.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2003, 05:32:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
in estonia, there's 3 months of autumn, and 9 months of bad weather.:p

then that's "love then sex" all the year for you :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:32:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
Now, hit for a new subject:

Love, then sex

or Sex, just for the heck of it?

I'm a strong Love then Sex supporter. I'm not really into drunk bad/naughty girls, I'm more of the good, nice, big cleavage kinda girl type.

Both actually. It isn't bad to have sex just for the heck of it. Just don't do it all the time :p Mostly sex and love should go together yes. But the occaisonal fun isn't a bad thing IMO.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:32:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
in estonia, there's 3 months of autumn, and 9 months of bad weather.:p

Hence the relatively small population?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:34:25 pm: I think this thread will end in fire. If it continues down this path anyway.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:35:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
I think this thread will end in fire. If it continues down this path anyway.

Agreed. There'll be tears before bedtime.

BTW, my posts per day has increased dramatically over the past half hour.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:38:23 pm: Sex with animals

Discuss.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:39:24 pm: I wouldnt go there. *remembers Spacebattles topic*
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:39:52 pm: Zeronet, you are in violation of the rules :p No bashing was a rule. That also means no bashing of gay people. :p Keep those opinions to yourself ot post them on some other board.

Also, if people won't act childish we can have a normal conversation.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 05:41:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Sex with animals

Discuss.
No.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:41:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
No.

Heh, lets keep it with human-human relations to keep the admins happy :p
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:42:23 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
we can have a normal conversation.

Well what is there to say?
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:43:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Heh, lets keep it with human-human relations to keep the admins happy :p

OK, it's probably for the best, anyway.
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Tiara on May 17, 2003, 05:43:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Well what is there to say?

Whatever there is to say. Well, I'm off to partay again! Cya all l8r :D
Title: Hot 'n Steamy sex thread
Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 05:45:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
OK, it's probably for the best, anyway.
Probably a good idea.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:47:27 pm: You know, before long, an0n will find his way here, post piss-up, and sicken us all.
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 05:48:13 pm: Then we can all take turns whipping him.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:49:02 pm: Black or red leather? :nervous:
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Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:49:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Zeronet, you are in violation of the rules :p No bashing was a rule. That also means no bashing of gay people. :p Keep those opinions to yourself ot post them on some other board.

Also, if people won't act childish we can have a normal conversation.

Did you fail to see the part, where i said i used to have those opinions hmm?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:51:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Did you fail to see the part, where i said i used to have those opinions hmm?

I failed to see it, must be well hidden, or I am going blind from you-know-what.
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Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 05:53:34 pm: I was talking about the shooting them bit, not the "its wrong" part.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 05:55:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
I was talking about the shooting them bit, not the "its wrong" part.

I never saw anything about shooting them. The Plot Thickens.
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Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 06:01:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

I never saw anything about shooting them. The Plot Thickens.

Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Its actually the Roman Catholics churches opinion. I think my current opinion is an improvement upon the days when i thought they should all be rounded up and shot.
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 06:09:43 pm: You used to think all homosexuals should be shot? What about bisexuals? And what do you think now?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 06:16:34 pm: No one's answering anymore...
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Post by: Zeronet on May 17, 2003, 06:17:52 pm: I don't have a problem with them as people, as long as they keep it to themselves and away from me.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 17, 2003, 06:20:28 pm: answering the thread main topic...

If it's legal, sure, whatever. Ignoring legal stances and focusing only on what I'd like to do with my life, I'd only go so far with someone worthwhile whom I'll stick with for at least a somewhat long time (2-5 years at least).

and about gays/lesbians... their life, their choice... let them be.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 17, 2003, 06:20:39 pm: 'Spose I agree in a way. You don't mind it being there, you just don't want it interfering with your life.

A bit like France, really. :D
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Post by: CP5670 on May 17, 2003, 06:35:44 pm: huh, some thread... :D

what's wrong with animals, or anything else for that matter? same thing as humans really, just bunches of particles... :p :D

Anyway, this age of consent thing is effectively 0. I have never heard of anyone getting jailed for having sex outside of rape incidents, and there would really be no way of enforcing such a law in the current system anyway.

As for the homosexuals and so on, I personally couldn't care less what other people do if they are productive otherwise.

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First point: True. BUT i said its your choice. If an old man seduces a little girl who doesn't know what sex is or barely, it isn't her choice. And since little children dont know or barely know what sex is they can't make that choice and automatically shouldn't have sex IMO.

Sorry, but that is a bit hypocritical. :p The same could be said about the 15 year olds, 50 years olds, or whoever else; there is no true "free choice" anyway, so everyone has the same level of free choice as far as that goes regardless of what they know. (heck, this is the whole idea on which democracy works :D)
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Post by: vyper on May 17, 2003, 06:38:27 pm: Sex before marriage:

Its the choice of the people involved. S'long as there's love then I don't see the problem. Its only other parties (i.e. parents) that may piss in the proverbial nice clean pool that is created.

Love then sex or sex .... whatever Stu said:

Love then sex, but again its everyone's right to be an arsehole so really...

Bisexual:

Meh, whatever floats your boat. I prefer women only, but if someone finds both sexes attractive then thats thier business.

THUS: Sex is fine outwith marriage but should really be based on love and preference is an individual thing.

Spoiler:
(remember, the most important thing in all things like this is not to force your opinion on someone else. its like a form of rape)

Now for something amusing: What do you call a blonde virgin?
Oxymoron.:nervous:
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 17, 2003, 06:42:23 pm: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
Now for something amusing: What do you call a blonde virgin?
Oxymoron.:nervous:

What, even small children? Sicko.
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Post by: CP5670 on May 17, 2003, 06:43:32 pm: Quote
(remember, the most important thing in all things like this is not to force your opinion on someone else. its like a form of rape)

hey, but that's what democracy is all about; trying to get other people to think like you! :D
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Post by: vyper on May 17, 2003, 06:46:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by CP5670

hey, but that's what democracy is all about; trying to get other people to think like you! :D
:p But still giving them the choice to not accept your way of thinking!
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 06:48:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
I don't have a problem with them as people, as long as they keep it to themselves and away from me.
You afraid of the big bad gays? Geez, you're acting like it's a disease.

Who cares what people do in the bedroom so long as they're not hurting anyone doing it?
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Post by: vyper on May 17, 2003, 06:49:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike

Who cares what people do in the bedroom so long as they're not hurting anyone doing it?

What about BDSM? :lol:
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 06:54:25 pm: That's concensual and while painful, inflicts no damage worse than a bruise, and that's if you're not careful. 'Not hurting anyone' should obviously imply physical or mental trauma, especially of the non-concensual type.
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Post by: karajorma on May 17, 2003, 06:55:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by vyper

What about BDSM? :lol:

He's got a point. Better make it as long as they aren't hurting anyone who doesn't want to be hurt :)

Personally I reckon what goes on on between two consenting adults in private is their own business :)
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 07:01:08 pm: Beat you to it.
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Post by: karajorma on May 17, 2003, 07:11:57 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Beat you to it.

Yeah. But only just :)
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 07:12:22 pm: Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. :p
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 17, 2003, 08:33:22 pm: And Nukes!

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Originally posted by CP5670
huh, some thread... :D

what's wrong with animals, or anything else for that matter? same thing as humans really, just bunches of particles... :p :D

Yeah, what ever a man and a woman and a goat and a couple of cucumbers do in the privacy of their own home is their own buisness.
:lol:

(keep in mind this is coming from a guy name teabag;) )
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 17, 2003, 08:36:07 pm: "Close" in a nuclear ICBM means about 1,000 miles off, so no, it doesn't really count there, either.
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Post by: an0n on May 17, 2003, 08:38:37 pm: I got not problem with fags who're fags simply because they like it better (like vyper said, whatever floats yer boat), it's the fags who're fags because they're not attracted to women that I have a problem with.

I'm just thankful that such hiccups in evolution are self-defeating.
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 08:51:33 pm: As a friend of mine once said, sex is so fun, why should I limit myself?
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Post by: an0n on May 17, 2003, 09:01:16 pm: Does this friend have AIDS?
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Post by: Shrike on May 17, 2003, 09:10:18 pm: Not as far as I know.
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Post by: silverwolf on May 17, 2003, 11:00:06 pm: i have no prob with homosexuals exept when one stands at the screen door and plays with their wank at you.
if they do it just annoys me but i don't do anything because i'm a very forgiving person
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 17, 2003, 11:06:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
i have no prob with homosexuals exept when one stands at the screen door and plays with their wank at you.

Happens all the time, does it?
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Post by: Stealth on May 17, 2003, 11:10:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
inflicts no damage worse than a bruise, and that's if you're not careful.

i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise. i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site
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Post by: an0n on May 17, 2003, 11:11:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
Happens all the time, does it?
He asks his boyfriend to stop, but it just seems to excite him more.
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Post by: an0n on May 17, 2003, 11:13:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise. i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site
Firstly, unless it involves kids, horses or transexuals, all pr0n is good pr0n and as such is extreme fun to do in real life.

Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth and a girlfriend to be disgusted by it all.

Thirdly, *SMACK*.
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Post by: silverwolf on May 17, 2003, 11:20:22 pm: stryke9:nah just at my old house form a couple years back
an0n:go jack off
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Post by: J.F.K. on May 17, 2003, 11:28:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Who cares what people do in the bedroom so long as they're not hurting anyone doing it?

Well, I'm of the opinion that sex was only designed to be done one way... I guess that's old-fashioned now. :sigh:
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Post by: Tiara on May 18, 2003, 02:47:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf

an0n:go jack off

Thats perfectly normal :p
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Post by: Top Gun on May 18, 2003, 03:24:42 am: The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.
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Post by: Tiara on May 18, 2003, 03:32:37 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.

Eh, what? :wtf:

I am a non-believer, but that doesn't mean I don't have morals or reject all morals a believer would have. Marriage is for me not a declaration of love to under the watching eye of God, but a declaration of love to my partner and myself.

People really need to stop this. I respect your values and beliefs. Now, I believe in myself instead of God. That doesn't mean I'm lower or higher then you. Or that I should reject all your morals.

Generelazation is a *****.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 18, 2003, 03:35:06 am: I would assume it shows that many atheists aren't so deeply analytical or thoughtful in their beliefs to go so far as to throw rather rooted tradition out the window. (not necessarily a bad thing, not something you need to care about)

Personally I think it's silly for me to have to garauntee any sort of "I'll do this and that" for some religious community and declare my absolute allegiance to a partner in religious ceremony. If I'm to get married, I'll try to stay away from one of those.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 18, 2003, 03:41:04 am: TG: This topic has been done a thousand times before, beaten to death and back enough times that it hardly even makes a difference, ****ed sideways, and sent to the Moon. It's tired and old, and it's been done to death on this forum, too.

Ruling out the concept of god does not equal ruling out the fact that we need a social construct with limitations, and in fact personal guidelines and restrictions, in order to remain sane, healthy, and alive. It has absolutely nothing to do with God- morals and law never did. Religion coopted them, not the other way around.

In fact, it's been said before that atheists are the only truly moral people around- the fact that all y'all have that big fat ol' carrot of an eternity in Heaven if you're good dangling in front of your noses pretty much negates altruism, since it's all in self-interest in the end- you do it because it gets you in God's nice list (or at least not on the naughty list), not because it's good for anyone else. However, an atheist doesn't have that, and not all moral restrictions have to do with self-preservation- hence, it basically comes down to atheists, and atheists alone, being capable of being good for the sake of good.

Ahh, being smug. It's so rewarding.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 18, 2003, 03:48:00 am: But marriage rituals aren't a socially necessarily concept are they? Sure you'll need rules and laws to keep people bound , but I'm sure few actually treats that ritual as their social ultimatum. (as can be seen by divorce rates)
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Post by: 01010 on May 18, 2003, 04:00:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise. i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site

Hee hee, i'm sure they were just banners ;)
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Post by: Shrike on May 18, 2003, 04:32:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth and a girlfriend to be disgusted by it all.
I prefer my women in the flesh, got a problem with that?
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 04:39:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.

Cause marriage is not just a religious thing. Plenty of animals mate for life. There are lots evolutionary benifits to it. The time and effort that is wasted on courtship can instead be spent on having sex and raising young.

Secondly once you've formed any kind of long term bond with your partner you'll soon find that it isn't legally recognised. This is perfectly understandable.
If you meet a woman and move in with her within a week when do you think she should have the right to make medical desicions about you should you be incapacitated?
Marriage gives both partners certain rights that otherwise remain with the next of kin. It also makes things easier should the couple decide to split. Divorce may be messy but it's far easier than trying to solve the same problems without having been married.
Also once the state recognises you as a couple you're entitled to all kinds of tax breaks.

There you go. Tonnes of logical reasons.

Unfortunately I'm not that logical :D I'd want to marry my girlfriend more cause I love her and want to show that.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 18, 2003, 04:53:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth

:yes:
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Post by: Nico on May 18, 2003, 05:16:37 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kamikaze
But marriage rituals aren't a socially necessarily concept are they? Sure you'll need rules and laws to keep people bound , but I'm sure few actually treats that ritual as their social ultimatum. (as can be seen by divorce rates)

heh? yes they do, you have less taxes and stuff like that. marriage is financially interesting, you know.
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Post by: Top Gun on May 18, 2003, 05:33:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Cause marriage is not just a religious thing. Plenty of animals mate for life. There are lots evolutionary benifits to it. The time and effort that is wasted on courtship can instead be spent on having sex and raising young.

Secondly once you've formed any kind of long term bond with your partner you'll soon find that it isn't legally recognised. This is perfectly understandable.
If you meet a woman and move in with her within a week when do you think she should have the right to make medical desicions about you should you be incapacitated?
Marriage gives both partners certain rights that otherwise remain with the next of kin. It also makes things easier should the couple decide to split. Divorce may be messy but it's far easier than trying to solve the same problems without having been married.
Also once the state recognises you as a couple you're entitled to all kinds of tax breaks.

There you go. Tonnes of logical reasons.

Unfortunately I'm not that logical :D I'd want to marry my girlfriend more cause I love her and want to show that.

I Understand the concept of Human Nature but it is still not a strong argument, there are lots of things the human race has done that definitely defy its darwinistic purpose (to make more humans). It's not in our nature to read and write books, do maths, go to the moon etc. but it's generally accepted that life is better with these things, so the analogous argument goes from here.

Yes, most countries legally recognise a bond between two people after a certain perioud of time together which further emphasizes my point on the need for any ceremonial marriage.

State tax breaks may be an incentive for an individual couople to marry but it passes the buck to the state in the question of 'why?' and the answer, for America certainly, is religion.

Stryke: It's not as if every point on this thread hasn't been gone over many times so I see nothing unique about mine. I am aware that most religions had adopted those social codes and not created them but they were, and still are, responsible for perpetuating them long after the need for them has gone.
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Post by: Nico on May 18, 2003, 06:41:32 am: that's your opinion, which is not shared by atheists. go wonder.
oh, another good reason is the whole "white dress and ****" that the girls are so fond of, too.
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Post by: Rictor on May 18, 2003, 08:38:23 am: :nervous:

BOOBIES!!!!
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Post by: Zeronet on May 18, 2003, 09:22:04 am: I have no opinion, which is a good opinion, avoids me wasting time explaining to idiots(ie the next reply after this one) what my opinion is, as some people(ie the next reply after this one) are too inbred to understand.
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Post by: kode on May 18, 2003, 09:25:44 am: so what you're really saying is that you want heterosexual sexual acts being played out in the streets?
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Post by: Zeronet on May 18, 2003, 09:45:20 am: :rolleyes: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 09:57:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
I Understand the concept of Human Nature but it is still not a strong argument, there are lots of things the human race has done that definitely defy its darwinistic purpose (to make more humans). It's not in our nature to read and write books, do maths, go to the moon etc. but it's generally accepted that life is better with these things, so the analogous argument goes from here.

I wasn't saying that evolution means we should get married. I'm saying that it is for evolutionary reasons that humans did get married. As Stryke 9 said religion took something that was already there and made it it's own. Marriage was there a long time before religion came religion came along and took it over. Humans are evolved to get married (and cheat a bit too but that's another matter).

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Originally posted by Top Gun
Yes, most countries legally recognise a bond between two people after a certain perioud of time together which further emphasizes my point on the need for any ceremonial marriage

So basically you're saying there is no need to get married cause the state does it for you automatically. Hardly an arguement against marriage is it?

Even there are a large number of things you appear to have missed.

1) So where do you draw the line? At what point should a couple who live together automatically be considered a couple by the state? Remember no one gets married cause we're all aethists in this arguement so when should the state decide that my girlfriend has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine? After a year? Two years? 7?

2) What happens if at the time the state decides I'm married I don't feel ready? What if I felt ready for 3 years? Should I have had to wait?

3) Common law is much weaker than Marital law. If you adjust it's power upwards then again you're just forcing marriage on every couple regardless of if they want it or not.

4) How does the state decide how long a couple has been together? What if they broke up for a week? A month? A Year? Do they have to have been living together that whole time? What about people in the armed forces or other jobs which take them away from home for long periods of time?

3) So why not get a Power of Attorney drawn up I hear you say? Well if I get one drawn up for everything that could become important in my life I might as well get married. Marriage automatically includes one. If every good aetheist couple has to at some point decide to get one you're simply swapping one marriage ritual for another. At some point a couple would have to say "I trust you enough to sign over my rights to you if I'm incapacitated. Let's get attorneyed!"
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Post by: kode on May 18, 2003, 10:00:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
:rolleyes: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:

you do. if not, you'd say that all peoples sex life should be handled by them privately, instead of just limiting it to homosexuals.
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Post by: Zeronet on May 18, 2003, 10:14:22 am: I see you have a problem, in that you are attempting to glean opinions from a smilie.

All im going to say is, what i don't see/hear/know about, cannot disgust me. I have no problem with them as people, i have no problems with lesbians or what they do. Though i am annoyed that people still find my opinions at fault, i cannot help it if i find the idea of what gay men do disgusting, so if you think that means im a intolerant person, or im treating it as a disease, i don't give a damn.
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 10:20:46 am: So for you sex is just dick in pussy and nothing else, right? Do you find the idea of having anal sex with a woman equally disgusting and if so why didn't you say that instead of just picking on homosexuals?
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Post by: Tiara on May 18, 2003, 10:22:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

All im going to say is, what i don't see/hear/know about, cannot disgust me. I have no problem with them as people, i have no problems with lesbians or what they do. Though i am annoyed that people still find my opinions at fault, i cannot help it if i find the idea of what gay men do disgusting, so if you think that means im a intolerant person, or im treating it as a disease, i don't give a damn.

This opinion is quite common actually. Its almost the same as what I have for an opinion when it concerns beliefs.

I don't care wether you're a Jew, Christian, Muslim or anything as long as you don't bother me with your beliefs. With that I mean bothering as in Jehova, trying to oppress your religious beliefs on me etc. Its not like I don't want these people as my friends. I have lotsa friends with different beliefs :)

Ow, man... Lets not continue on this path :p else we'll have another religion thread ;)
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 10:26:27 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Ow, man... Lets not continue on this path :p else we'll have another religion thread ;)

You can never mention one without someone mentioning the other.
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Post by: Top Gun on May 18, 2003, 10:29:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
So basically you're saying there is no need to get married cause the state does it for you automatically. Hardly an arguement against marriage is it?

Yes, I think it is. It makes the ceremonial part of it utterly pointless and there is no religious connections to it.

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Originally posted by karajorma
1) So where do you draw the line? At what point should a couple who live together automatically be considered a couple by the state? Remember no one gets married cause we're all aethists in this arguement so when should the state decide that my girlfriend has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine? After a year? Two years? 7?

Go and look at legislation in a your respective country for a good idea of 'where the line is considered drawn'. You appeal to emotion in the second part of that point. One could turn that argument around on itself and present in in the form 'My wife, who I married in a hurry and known for only a month has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine.'

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Originally posted by karajorma
2) What happens if at the time the state decides I'm married I don't feel ready? What if I felt ready for 3 years? Should I have had to wait?

Again, read the legislation in your respective country. The law, in most countries, entitles one partner to a share of the others property should they split up if they have been living together after a certain period. I don't see what you are hypothetically wishing to happen though in the last rhetorical question; ready for what? to be able to break off the relationship and take the share you would have been entitled to had you been married traditionally or to have a third party aknowledge the authenticity of you relationship?.

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Originally posted by karajorma
So why not get a Power of Attorney drawn up I hear you say? Well if I get one drawn up for everything that could become important in my life I might as well get married. Marriage automatically includes one. If every good aetheist couple has to at some point decide to get one you're simply swapping one marriage ritual for another. At some point a couple would have to say "I trust you enough to sign over my rights to you if I'm incapacitated. Let's get attorneyed!"

Yes (and should it just be a couple?) as it completely removes any essence of religion from the whole business.

Then there's the case against the familly unit that a married couple is more likely to produce which hasn't even been mentioned.
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Post by: Tiara on May 18, 2003, 10:33:11 am: TG, you keep reffering to religion, but I don't give a damn about religion. I know it might be hard for you to see that people don't share your beliefs, but when I marry I will not think of God. I will not read from the bible. All I will do is enjoy the moment and see it as the one moment where me and my partner make a statement of love.
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 10:40:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
Yes (and should it just be a couple?) as it completely removes any essence of religion from the whole business.

So in other words you just want to rename marriage for aetheists rather than actually being against aetheists having some sort of formal commitment? :D

Unlike you I am capable of understanding that there isn't any need to throw the baby out with the bath water. I can get married quite happily without it having any religious connection whatsoever.

Your arguement is similar to that of the feminists who wanted to stop the use of the word history because of the nasty masculine meaning of the original word. In other words it's mad PC crap from someone incapable of seperating a word from its meaning.
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Post by: Top Gun on May 18, 2003, 10:41:07 am: Tiara: Good for you :D you have failed to explain the reason why you choose marriage as a way of making a gesture of love as opposed to say; standing on a soapbox with a megaphone reciting love poetry to him/her or tattooing each others names some place etc.etc. etc. etc.
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Post by: Tiara on May 18, 2003, 10:43:37 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
Good for you :D you have failed to explain the reason why you choose marriage as a way of making a gesture of love as opposed to say; standing on a soapbox with a megaphone reciting love poetry to her or tattooing each others names some place etc.etc. etc. etc.

Hmmm... I might :D I really don't care what we do. Also we will not have a traditional wedding but a maleysian one. :D

Also, reason: I wuv him. Thats reason enough for me :)
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Post by: karajorma on May 18, 2003, 10:46:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
Go and look at legislation in a your respective country for a good idea of 'where the line is considered drawn'. You appeal to emotion in the second part of that point. One could turn that argument around on itself and present in in the form 'My wife, who I married in a hurry and known for only a month has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine.'

If you're fool enough to marry someone you don't trust after a month then you deserve the concequences. I don't see why the rest of us should have to suffer because some people are stupid enough to do that. Besides in that case you could get a power of Attorney to cancel your new wife's ability to do that.
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Post by: J.F.K. on May 19, 2003, 07:28:15 am: Hey, can anyone tell me where marriage originally came from? I used to just think everyone did it, but it's such a convention nowadays... what's the Hindu take on marriage, for example? Anyone an expert?
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Post by: Darkage on May 19, 2003, 07:58:16 am: :wtf: how the **** could i have missed this thread?

*Meh.......leaves*
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Post by: Tiara on May 19, 2003, 09:40:52 am: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage
:wtf: how the **** could i have missed this thread?

:lol: You should actually open your eyes once in a while.
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Post by: Darkage on May 19, 2003, 10:16:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

:lol: You should actually open your eyes once in a while.

I do sleep much these days:D
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Post by: an0n on May 19, 2003, 10:19:38 am: Ah, sleep. I remember that. It was nice. Restful.

Ah, well, back to the diamon....err...'coal' mines.
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 19, 2003, 02:06:34 pm: This doesn't have anything to do with your marriage, does it, Tiara? :D :p No offense ;)

EDIT: It seems I've appeared to have killed the thread.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 20, 2003, 04:22:30 pm: I shall revive the thread, with this thought.

Quote
Sex is like bridge. All you need is a good partner, or a good hand.
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Post by: an0n on May 20, 2003, 06:21:41 pm: Sex is like a river. It's wet, sloppy and smells of fish.
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Post by: vyper on May 20, 2003, 06:30:25 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Sex is like a river. It's wet, sloppy and smells of fish.

Opinion on that statement: Yes, no and no.

Someone say something controversial this is getting boring.
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Post by: an0n on May 20, 2003, 06:33:20 pm: All catholics are paedophiles.
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Post by: vyper on May 20, 2003, 06:40:02 pm: My wifey is a Catholic, and I'm no small child, so your arugment is flawed sir. :p

EDIT: Spelling fixed to avoid KT's homoerotic thoughts.
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Post by: Knight Templar on May 20, 2003, 06:45:56 pm: people who spell your with ur are gay.

:ha: ;)

oh wait... you wanted controversial...

Quote
Originally posted by vyper

EDIT: Spelling fixed to avoid KT's homoerotic thoughts.

:D
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Post by: an0n on May 20, 2003, 06:51:12 pm: Supplimentary to recreative (fun) breeding (sex), the governments of the world should institute (start) a manditory (have to) procreative (knocking-up) breeding (sex) program (scheme) to create children with genetically superior (better) attributes (facets (parts)).
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Post by: karajorma on May 20, 2003, 07:27:19 pm: Actually the governments should start up a manditory program to stop people who use mobile phones in cinemas from breeding. :D

Would improve the gene pool instantly. :)
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Post by: an0n on May 20, 2003, 07:38:33 pm: Kill the chores/townies/boggers/goths/old/stupid/homeless/jews and the world instantly becomes a better place.

Peace through war.
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 20, 2003, 07:43:25 pm: Sir, my ass goes phoot in your general direction. ;)
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Post by: vyper on May 20, 2003, 07:43:38 pm: Lets all just have more sex and relax.:devil:
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Post by: IceFire on May 21, 2003, 08:43:02 am: This has been an interesting thread...lots of opinions, no all out flame wars. Where else could this have happened? (few other places)

Unfortunately, I have absolutely no insight into these matters. I've had big arguments in the past on all of these issues...to the point that I'm of the general belief that everyone is wrong and that nobody is right and so on and so forth. (ha!)

Yes...I just spammed a post :D
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Post by: Tiara on May 21, 2003, 08:47:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by IceFire
I've had big arguments in the past on all of these issues...to the point that I'm of the general belief that everyone is wrong and that nobody is right and so on and so forth. (ha!)

You need to change your opinion a bit as it is a wee bit something of a paradox :p
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Post by: Martinus on May 21, 2003, 08:56:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Kill the *snip*/stupid/*snip* and the world instantly becomes a better place.

Peace through war.

[color=66ff00]Will you be first to go as a gesture of commitment to this ideal?[/color]
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Post by: Stunaep on May 21, 2003, 09:51:23 am: he was being sarcastical.

i think.

anyway, face it, the perfect world is one without humans. I'll accept to slighty non-perfect one we have.
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 21, 2003, 01:29:47 pm: What exactly is the perfect world?:confused:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 21, 2003, 01:30:26 pm: Crius.
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Post by: an0n on May 21, 2003, 01:43:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
he was being sarcastical.

i think.

At the beginning of the list I wasn't, but it was kind of a 'where do we stop?' thing by the end of the list.

People seem to think the world would be better off if everything was all ****ing Federation pussified, but it's diversity, conflict and the constant struggle to annihilate everyone and the alternate struggle to not that has kept the human race going.

We need a nice balance between killing people and not killing everyone to keep things moving along.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 21, 2003, 01:47:25 pm: Tend to agree. If we could kill off all the rich and the powerful, anyway.

SMASH THE STATE.