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Post by: Kamikaze on May 30, 2003, 07:11:55 pm: http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=6

Another failure of humanity, good for a laugh though.
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Post by: Bobboau on May 30, 2003, 07:23:49 pm: these people make my skin crawl,
warn me next time your going to link to one of these sites mkay,
now i must go take a shower for I feel unclean.
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Post by: Arnav on May 30, 2003, 08:36:23 pm: :wtf: :eek2:

Must... resist... urge... to... EVOLVE!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But seriously, people like this make me want to go on an atheist rampage.
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Post by: redsniper on May 30, 2003, 10:23:27 pm: well I'm a religious person but I'm definitely not creationist. Ignoring evolution is just plain stupid (sorry if anyone on the HLPBB is a creationist this is just my opinion) but I'm right
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Post by: an0n on May 30, 2003, 10:34:37 pm: No, it's fact.

Anyway: People like that annoy the **** out of me. I wouldn't care if they actually had some ****ing brains, but they're all inbred yokels who turn to Jesus because it's the fastest way of achieving power when you ain't got no brains.

You'd think that after supposedly studying the Bible and understanding the words of God, that they'd have realised at best the Bible is a massive jumbling of metaphors, a "Universe for Dummies" if you will and, at worst, a big-ass story with a crappy plot and hundreds of plot-holes.

They cannot accept the fact that some parts of the Bible are minor lies, created to allow the dumbest commoner to understand the concepts which God wished them to know of. They believe every last word is sacred and the truth. But then they ignore it when it suits them.

When was the last time you saw a gay man stoned to death in the US? Never. Because despite building the Bible up to be the be-all and end-all of rights and wrongs, they defy its teachings when it suits their wallet. If the gays can bring money to the Church, well hell, they can't be all that bad. I mean, it's only GOD who's said they should die. Why should a little thing like that get in the way of money?

****ing hypocrits.
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Post by: an0n on May 30, 2003, 10:40:39 pm: Quote
Jesus told us that we are to be the "salt of the earth."

I don't think these people understand that salt prevents things from growing.

I'd take that to mean Jesus wanted us to lay-waste to the land in our struggle for supremecy over all the other animals. Making sure that nothing was left.
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Post by: an0n on May 30, 2003, 10:48:30 pm: Quote
From God:
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. (http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=products&grp=1)

Oh, the irony.
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Post by: Bobboau on May 30, 2003, 10:57:38 pm: oh, I think we found the root
:D :lol: :D
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 30, 2003, 11:29:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by redsniper
well I'm a religious person but I'm definitely not creationist. Ignoring evolution is just plain stupid (sorry if anyone on the HLPBB is a creationist this is just my opinion) but I'm right

Yeah, I can respect alot of religious people (the type who don't scream at me about going to hell and the likes), but some of these extremist are odd and dumb.
I've noticed that sites like creationism.org have been crafted to appeal to the uneducated (largely superstitious, un-naturalistic bunch) or those who accept things with little backing.
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Post by: Arnav on May 30, 2003, 11:34:52 pm: I heard that in a town in the US, a school made a big globe for Earth Day or something, and some religious zealots sued the school, saying that the globe constituted "false idol worship" or some **** like that. Talk about :confused:... some people.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 02:43:04 am: Yeah, I have no problem with different religeons. Nor the people who worship them. Its when they try and convert me, when I really get pissed off. That kind of arrogance in saying that my religeon is wrong and I should follow heir own if I wish to go to heaven, yada yada. I mean, I don't care if people decide to throw caution in the wind and drive a car at 180 without a seatbealt on thinking that if he dies, its god's will and nothing could prevent it anyway. But I do care if he's on the same road as I am. These people should be allowed to believe in what they want, no matter how rediculous it is. Its just the preaching and the luring that I hate.

But seriously, creationism is one of those subjects that really makes me feel pity for them. I happen to know a person who believes in it. And trust me, you can give them hard evidence about evolution and they'll just stare at you stupid, as if in a loss for words, then forget what you said and go back to saying wha they said before. They won't allow themselves or their beliefs to be wrong. Oh well. Hopefully now that the world is getting connected, people are starting learn more about things globally and start to have open minds. But atleast the creationists aren't dangerous....
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 03:06:23 am: ya it's weird, they stare at you as if there trying to think of how your wrong and then sudenly you get the feeling that someone hit the reset button, and they just go on about it being all lies and there is no proof, ocasionaly they'll start makeing a point that science is it's own religon but then never get to explaining how this makes it any less valid than there belefes
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:15:13 am: And people wonder why I am so violently athiest....
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 03:56:16 am: Ahh yes, it's a classic. I think someone posted articles from that place on the last religious debate we had here :lol::lol: crank.net (http://www.crank.net) gives it their rating of "Cranky" (http://www.crank.net/creationism.html)

Of course if you're after a laugh then you must visit here (http://crossspot.net/objective/propaganda.html) and have a look around.

The connection between Marxism and darwinism true in the sense that they both make use of Hegelian logic.
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 04:02:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
And people wonder why I am so violently athiest....

:lol::yes:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 04:04:46 am: :lol: :lol:
"Pokemon's Pro-Darwinist propaganda."
:lol:

Poor fools.
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 04:06:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
And people wonder why I am so violently athiest....

Because the evilution along with the liberal media and jewish/communist new world order that's controlling your life has brainwashed you to think like that. Next thing you'll be saying that really, really rich people should have to pay taxes :eek:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 04:10:40 am: What what what?

Anyway, speaking of communism, I have just found a site that claims Super Mario to be Communist propaganda.
http://www.geocities.com/murmario/
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 04:30:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Anyway, speaking of communism, I have just found a site that claims Super Mario to be Communist propaganda.
http://www.geocities.com/murmario/

Pah, I've found one that claims Papa Smurf (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/1709) is communist, beat that :D
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 04:33:07 am: Papa Smurf?
But he's blue!
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 04:43:25 am: That's what the liberal media want you to think.

OMFG LOOK AT THIS (http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=15)
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 05:08:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun

OMFG LOOK AT THIS (http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=15)

:doubt:

Thats just... ARGH! Why am I wasting my breath on such morons :p

(Top Gun, this wasn't aimed at you but at the link :p)
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 06:42:04 am: Wonder what their view on LOTR is...
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 07:13:30 am: Alright now I'm genuinly scared!:shaking: This guy is f***ing crazy!

SCARY (http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=faq&specific=44)

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To claim that cyanide is always poisonous is simply not logical. Hydrogen is explosive and oxygen supports combustion yet when they are mixed together they form water, which puts out a fire. Chlorine and Sodium are poisonous to the body yet when they are together they make salt, which is needed by the body. The cyanide found in fruit seeds is good for you. I eat apricot seeds all the time and have never had a problem.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on May 31, 2003, 07:22:33 am: Quote
Most thinking people will agree that the theory of evolution is dangerous and should have no place in the classroom

Well I ain't reading any more o' that
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Post by: betterthanyou on May 31, 2003, 07:25:24 am: Wow. What a bunch of crap you guys spew.

I wish I had time to delve into it all.

Yes, I am a creationist, but anyone that knows me that I am far from lacking brains. I do not feel the need to show any credentials to you, as you would not accept them anyways, but I will not be looked on as an inferior intellect.

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Originally posted by an0n

I don't think these people understand that salt prevents things from growing.

Salt keeps things from decaying. That's why we salt hams and other meats. So although you'd prefer to think that there is some major flaw with the verse, there isn't.

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Originally posted by an0n

When was the last time you saw a gay man stoned to death in the US? Never. Because despite building the Bible up to be the be-all and end-all of rights and wrongs, they defy its teachings when it suits their wallet.

I think that the homosexual life is morally wrong. Why don't I stone people? Because we live in the age of grace.
I don't approve of the lifestyle, but death isn't the sentence anymore. They are simply sinning against God.

I will not defend all creationists or all views of the church, because they all aren't right. Some creationists are talking just for the sake of talking, just as some evolutionists are. It would not be smart nor safe to defend them.

I understand the process of evolution, more than most people who accept it, and I am not convinced. There is much more to say, but I must be going.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on May 31, 2003, 07:32:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by betterthanyou
Salt keeps things from decaying. That's why we salt hams and other meats. So although you'd prefer to think that there is some major flaw with the verse, there isn't.

Then go chuck salt all over your garden, and see what happens

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I will not defend all creationists or all views of the church, because they all aren't right.

But - let me guess - your ideas are? The particular brach of the church you belong to is 100% accurate?
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 07:34:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by betterthanyou
Wow. What a bunch of crap you guys spew.

I wish I had time to delve into it all.

Yes, I am a creationist, but anyone that knows me that I am far from lacking brains. I do not feel the need to show any credentials to you, as you would not accept them anyways, but I will not be looked on as an inferior intellect.

That's a rather foolish stance (http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/chimp_ss.gif)

Please present some credible evidence to justify this belief and we won't think of you as ignorant.
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Post by: betterthanyou on May 31, 2003, 07:36:46 am: I never said it didn't slow growing processes. I said it kept things from decaying. It wasn't meant to be taken in the way you're pushing.

No, I can't say that they are 100% right, because to set myself, or my church, as infallible would be a dangerous thing to do. This is how some churches were able to do the atrocities that they did, because no one questioned them. I cannot say what God wants, I can only say what my understanding is. Yes, that understanding is flawed, but that's why I discuss it with people. Maybe I can change my view and come a little closer to the truth.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on May 31, 2003, 07:38:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by betterthanyou
Maybe I can change my view and come a little closer to the truth.

But there are certain truths you wouldn't accept, like, for instance that God doesn't object to homosexuality. Right?
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 07:52:24 am: Quote
Originally posted by betterthanyou
I will not defend all creationists or all views of the church, because they all aren't right.

If they all aren't right, that means they are all wrong :D
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 07:57:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

If they all aren't right, that means they are all wrong :D

Excellent observation, Miss T!
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 07:58:50 am: :eek::eek::eek: I've seen some crankery in my time but this takes the piss. (http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=69)
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 08:00:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

If they all aren't right, that means they are all wrong :D

No, If they aren't all right then some of them are wrong silly ;) :)
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 08:02:31 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun

No, If they aren't all right then some of them are wrong silly ;) :)

Wrong, this is what he said:

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because they all aren't right

That means all are wrong :D
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 08:02:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun

No, If they aren't all right then some of them are wrong silly ;) :)

Read it again, note the sequence of words.:D
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 08:05:50 am: Quote
Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)
Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) 1,500.
Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188

uuuhm... Ok... 0.171 patients per physician. That means, no one dies in their hands. But I can be wrong. And its lovely how he picks the statistics which he wants to show, leaving out the relevant ones. Like how many deaths are caused by guns ON PURPOSE?!!

Well, to add to this, global statistics shows that the most dangerous and hostile place in the entire world, the place where death happens the most frequent, is.... (DUM DUM DUUUUM)

THE BATHROOM!!!!

More poeple die in bathrooms per year than in any other location on the world...

LET US BAN BATHROOMS!!!:hopping:
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Post by: wEvil on May 31, 2003, 08:22:04 am: (http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/edoom/toilet_claw.gif)

says it all, really
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Post by: Zeronet on May 31, 2003, 08:49:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n

Oh, the irony.

Jesus said that in the story of the Rich man not God. Jesus is not saying camels can fit through the eye of a needle.

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/Franklin4YAHWEH/camelthroughneedle.html

I'd also recommend against suggesting all christians are creationists. Many things in the bible are parables, the story of creation is a parable as well.

I seriously still find it hard to believe, people do not accept evolution, you can as much choose to believe in evolution as you can choose to believe in the sun(meaning, most people would have to accept evolution as existing).

And i don't like people to try heckle people about joining their religion, there's teaching people about it and trying to ram it down their throats(like those Jehovas witnesses that post stuff through your door, i once felt like waiting until they posted something through and pushing it back out while they were still standing there).
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Post by: vyper on May 31, 2003, 09:03:01 am: I find all this amusing, worrying and highly disturbing. :wtf:
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Post by: Pera on May 31, 2003, 10:27:42 am: Now that we're on the subject, here's a forum that kicks ass (http://truechristiansunite.cjb.net/) :wtf:
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 10:36:50 am: Quote
BTY:
I think that the homosexual life is morally wrong. Why don't I stone people? Because we live in the age of grace.
I don't approve of the lifestyle, but death isn't the sentence anymore. They are simply sinning against God.

So you've decided God was wrong on that one and that they shouldn't be stoned? How wonderfully arogant of you.
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Z:
Jesus said that in the story of the Rich man not God. Jesus is not saying camels can fit through the eye of a needle.

What? He's saying if you're rich, you've obviously charged more for things than they were worth, or you've hoarded your cash and goods when you could have put them towards something useful and beneficial to others.

No rich man can enter the kingdom because to make yourself rich, you've got to dick on others.

Yet the mofo on that site was charging upto $100 for all his crap.

Also, you're Catholic. It doesn't matter who said it, they're all the ****ing same.
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Post by: Rictor on May 31, 2003, 11:17:28 am: Regardless of what you believe in, let me just say:

That Christian forum thingy is at the same time one of the most hilarious and disturbing things I've seen.

Read it. Really. These people are just about the most intolerant mofos since Hitler's day. Heres some gems:

Red is for a post, green is for the reply

My 16 year-old daughter Shirleen brought home her new boyfriend after school today. Well all I can say is, thank God that her father is away. If Floyd (that's Shirleen's father, and my husband, too) had seen Manuel (that's the boyfriend's name) he probably would have screamed "My little girl ain't gonna date no wet-back!" and he would have literally thrown him out the door! Floyd is always going around quoting Leviticus 20:15-16, about how God will smite anyone who has "affectionate relations" with members of a different species (he's so serious about this that he won't even let our beagle Patches lick him). Now Shirleen swears that Manuel is a Baptist, but it looked to me like under his t-shirt he was wearing one of them big crosses like the Pope wears. What should I do? I wish I could call Floyd, but his night for receiving phone calls isn't till next Tuesday. By then. my little girl and this boy could run off to Mexico to get married (don't you only have to be 13 down there?).

If his name is "Manuel" and he's a hispanico, you can be sure he is indeed an idol-worshipping heathen catholic! He sounds like a "cholo" to me (that's Mexican for "gangster!). You need to lock that daughter of yours up, immediately! If she marries that boy she'll be barefoot and pregnant within a week, and will continue to pop babies out one a year for the rest of the time she is fertile! The Catholic "thing" for having as many babies as possible is just a cover for the fact they have NO CONTROL over their s3xual urges!

.Basically, you cannot trust Shirleen with regards to Manuel's faith. Invite him for lunch, and when you do, start grace with a hail mary. If Manuel does not look at you funny or object, then he is indeed a papist and then sic the dog on him. (Or call me - I always need migrant farm workers)

MIGRANT WORKERS?!?! What the hell is wrong with these people.

Invite him over for lunch (inside of wonderbread sandwiches you should order in from Taco Bell to lull him into a false sense of acceptance) and plant a piece of your finest costum jewelry on him. As he leaves, call the cops. Once he's in jail, Floyd can take care of the rest.

_________________________

As if we need another reason to keep President Bush in
the White House. Progress is being made, people, now is not
the time to rest on our laurels! A vote for Bush and the GOP
is a referendum against sodomites!

Vote Bush, stamp out gays!

My brother Ralph is the assistant chief of security at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and he told me about how they dealt with a bunch of homo troublemakers down there during the last presidential election. It seems that a group of homos were trying to embarrass George Bush by claiming that they were Republicans and they were trying to recruit "members" for their sinful little club, which they called the Log Cabin club (one can only imagine what kind of "log" they were referring to! For SHAME!). Well, Ralph got some of his friends together along with a few players from the football team (go Crimson Tide, yay!) and they made a dummy of that homo writer Gore Vidal (they chose him because of the Gore connection, which was pretty clever, I thought) and they lit a bonfire and burned the dummy and then they roasted weenies, which I thought was also very clever. What's this country coming to, anyway? Homos think they can be Republicans and Jews (like that Lieberman guy, what's his story? He looks constipated) think they can lead a Christian nation! For shame

And so on and so forth. BTW betterthanyou: Despeite the fact that I dont agree with you, you have taken a rational and calm approach to the issue, good for you.
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Post by: karajorma on May 31, 2003, 11:29:55 am: Quote
My brother Ralph is the assistant chief of security at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and he told me about how they dealt with a bunch of homo troublemakers down there during the last presidential election. It seems that a group of homos were trying to embarrass George Bush by claiming that they were Republicans and they were trying to recruit "members" for their sinful little club, which they called the Log Cabin club (one can only imagine what kind of "log" they were referring to! For SHAME!). Well, Ralph got some of his friends together along with a few players from the football team (go Crimson Tide, yay!) and they made a dummy of that homo writer Gore Vidal (they chose him because of the Gore connection, which was pretty clever, I thought) and they lit a bonfire and burned the dummy and then they roasted weenies, which I thought was also very clever. What's this country coming to, anyway? Homos think they can be Republicans and Jews (like that Lieberman guy, what's his story? He looks constipated) think they can lead a Christian nation! For shame

And I'll bet the democrats thanked them for every single vote they gained from this :lol: I've got to say I loved the touch about having a go at Gore Vidal simply because his first name was the same as Al Gore's last name :D
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 12:33:44 pm: I refuse to believe it's not a parody until I see convincing evidence otherwise.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 12:36:04 pm: Gotta love democracy :doubt:.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 12:40:20 pm: I think... I think... I think its time they recieved a small smite from god in the form of a DDoS... :mad: :mad2:
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 12:41:51 pm: that forum is more disturbing as anyting i have ever seen.

if that's even a small part of the general american populace, things aren't going well over there.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 12:45:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce
I think... I think... I think its time they recieved a small smite from god in the form of a DDoS... :mad: :mad2:

DDoS? denial of service attack? massive spamming? is that what you mean?

in that case i object, mainly because that'sintolerance, the very thing you would be fighting against.

i prefer an forum invation and some good discussion.
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Post by: vyper on May 31, 2003, 12:48:12 pm: This is ****ing sick.

Someone tell me all these are wind-ups?
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 12:50:37 pm: *grumble*:doubt:

Yeah... I know... But sometimes, it gets to me. Those people should be like beaten or something. I can't stand arrogance of that level. I can't think of it. I can't understand it. I can't believe that there people out there who REALLY think that kind of ****.

I mean, I have that feeling, like I'm looking down at a poor rabid dog with rabies, and the only thing I can do now to ease its suffering is to shoot it. Its this immense feeling of pity. But mixed with anger. As if the rabid dog ate my little brother.
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Post by: vyper on May 31, 2003, 12:54:30 pm: When I see them I get the feeling of looking at an enemy of freedom, justice and equality. Then I get that desire to buy a L96A1. Then the desire to use it.:hopping:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 12:57:24 pm: These people must not be allowed into Britain, or they'll start supporting the bastard BNP!
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 12:58:24 pm: I maintain that there is nothing wrong with the BNP.
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Post by: vyper on May 31, 2003, 01:02:10 pm: Meh, I don't like the BNP, and I do not support them but they're needed as a balance against the more EXTREME liberal forces in our political system.

(Let me reiterate I do not support them)

Now back to dealing with the religious nuts...
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 31, 2003, 01:22:20 pm: argh, that forum is insane :eek2:

I think I've finally found something deserving of this smily: :hopping:
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 01:27:23 pm: I don't give a **** what their beliefs are, the fact that they use eZ-board is enough to warrant their execution.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 31, 2003, 01:33:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun

The connection between Marxism and darwinism true in the sense that they both make use of Hegelian logic.

I think what that site is getting at is social darwinism, which they believe is directly related to biological evolution. Apparently they think social darwinism (and therefore darwinism in biological systems) caused various nationalistic/anti-racial entities (which they're using to say evolution is "evil" or "untrue"). I don't think Marxism grew out of social darwinism in any way so I think their comparison is... screwed. (even if darwinism and marxism are related in the logic used)

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don't give a **** what their beliefs are, the fact that they use eZ-board is enough to warrant their execution.

:lol: Hail VBulletin ;)
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 01:40:14 pm: I mean, for **** sake, if they're so devoted to spreading the word of God, is it really that hard for a few of them to muster enough cash for some basic hosting and to set-up a FREE phpBB2 board?

This just further illustrates my point that every last person, without exception, who believes in Jesus is a complete and utter retard.

*waits for a cross-toting fly to walk into his trap*
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Post by: Nico on May 31, 2003, 01:49:17 pm: that's very amusing isn't it? :D
as soon as they don't hurt people, they can crawl in their **** as much as they want, if you ask me :doubt:
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 01:51:12 pm: I do so love playing with fire.

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm1.showMessage?topicID=4990.topic
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 31, 2003, 01:54:05 pm: Hey, guys, let's go over to that sissy forum and stir up some trouble :D :drevil:

Look out for my posts!:thepimp:

My screenname is Yo, and my "real name" is Gaylord Foker.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 01:56:50 pm: Don't be overt.

Don't go throwing flames, just lay some matches around and wait for people to set fire to themselves.

Post regarding points where there will be obvious hostility between people, then fan the flames.
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Post by: Mr. Vega on May 31, 2003, 02:05:29 pm: Sometimes I wonder how much longer Christianity is going to last.

Quote
Salt keeps things from decaying. That's why we salt hams and other meats. So although you'd prefer to think that there is some major flaw with the verse, there isn't.

And do you know why? Because(in large quantities) it kills living things, in this case the bacteria. If you don't believe that, read about the end of the Third Punic War. Or even better, swallow several kilograms/pounds of salt.

But that verse is actually quite accurate, with all deforestation and the likes we're doing.
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Post by: Rampage on May 31, 2003, 02:13:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kamikaze
http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=6

I'm behind these people 110%! [Awaits Barrage of Tomatoes]
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:14:12 pm: Tomatoes? Yeah.....right.
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Post by: Rampage on May 31, 2003, 02:15:50 pm: Go ahead. Throw everything you got at us Christians. In the end WE'LL WIN! :D :D :D

[Shields Self from Projectiles]
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Post by: Martinus on May 31, 2003, 02:19:34 pm: [color=66ff00]Why do you guys let yourselves be wound up by this kind of thing? Do them the greatest harm, completely ignore them and their claims.

Frankly I find creationism an exceptionally unlikely possibility, almost all available evidence points to evolution as the propagator of our species; you know this, I know this, so where's the problem? If betterthanyou believes in creationism good luck to him, it's his right as a person to believe in whatever he feels is correct, who knows, perhaps we're all wrong.

Frankly in this society, with it's current stance of 'I'm right so you have to be wrong' I find it hard to give a **** about what everyone else is 'advertising'. I believe in God perhaps due to the fact that I was born into a family that believes in God (although I must say my views are drastically different from theirs due to my exploration of what material I have available). If I was brought up by athiests then I most likely would be an athiest. If I was brought up to believe there's 13 virgins with my name on them in return for being the trigger of a remarkably exergonic reaction then I'd be running into a public place right now with not a worry in the world and hitting the button.
I believe in what I believe because it ultimately leads to a conclusion that I want; I'm sure it's a kind of selfishness on some level but I'd just like everyone to be happy, live and let live. Everybody wins.

My point is this: You're free to completely ignore everything I've just tried to explain simply because I said it. Make up your own mind and realise that someone else may have a different conclusion, it doesn't make anyone more correct. Hopefully I'm stating the obvious. :)
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:19:57 pm: *sniffs Rampage's IP, DoS's him and e-mails him the Encyclopaedia Britannica 7 times*
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Post by: Arnav on May 31, 2003, 02:21:55 pm: This smilie is really expressive for this situation. :hopping:
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:26:24 pm: this thread shocked me:

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

it shocked me more then anything i found at rotten.com, more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW, it shocked me more then anything i have ever seen.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 02:30:35 pm: I have decided that it cannot be serious, but if it is then there is something severely wrong with the world, and America is particular.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:34:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I have decided that it cannot be serious, but if it is then there is something severely wrong with the world, and America is particular.

i am afraid it is serious, just by the amount of messages, nobody could write this up, and continue this long without believing it.

to be honest, i am kinda afraid now. if i ever believed in satan, i do now, and i believe that these people are following him instead of thier god.
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 02:36:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW

:hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:

*points at an0n*

:hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 02:36:26 pm: You never know, it might just be loads of people with a very twisted sense of humour, who keep posting, under different names, and so keep the thing going.

I hope this is the case, anyway, or I am indeed worried.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:37:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
this thread shocked me:

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

it shocked me more then anything i found at rotten.com, more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW, it shocked me more then anything i have ever seen.

I like that guy. He's got the right sorta attitude towards cripples, even if his motivation is flawed.

Oh, and, as a matter of fact, God is not all love and happiness. He describes himself as vengeful, wrathful and all sorts of other nasty **** throughout the bible when someone pisses him off.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:37:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
You never know, it might just be loads of people with a very twisted sense of humour, who keep posting, under different names, and so keep the thing going.

I hope this is the case, anyway, or I am indeed worried.

i verymuchhope this,but if this would be a forum set up by a bunch of nerds who thought this would be funny, then why are they running EzBoard, and why is the layout so bad?
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:38:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
:hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:

*points at an0n*

:hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:

I think he was refering to the sheiBe-porn pop-ups.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:38:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n

I like that guy. He's got the right sorta attitude towards cripples, even if his motivation is flawed.

you are truly sick, did you read the entire thread, the part about the guys at the store, and the traffic accident?
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:40:08 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
*points at an0n*

"your favorite sites" at my part of the forum, auto refferer, animal and bondage, remember?
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Post by: Tiara on May 31, 2003, 02:41:17 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

"your favorite sites" at my part of the forum, auto refferer, animal and bondage, remember?

No... I didn't put those sites on... :blah: It was a different site... nasty though :p
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 02:42:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

, then why are they running EzBoard, and why is the layout so bad?

In order to make it as convincing as possible?
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:43:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
In order to make it as convincing as possible?

i can only hope, but i am truly afraid. if this is how even a small part of the American populace thinks, something is very, very wrong there.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:44:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

you are truly sick, did you read the entire thread, the part about the guys at the store, and the traffic accident?
Yeah, that was sooo funny. Throw-bolt-smash-squish. That is better than anything on Rotten.com.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:47:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
In order to make it as convincing as possible?

this:
http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=69.topic

convinces me a bit, because i find it hard (not impossible, just hard) to believe someone is that stupid.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:49:22 pm: Dude, a whole 3rd of the world still thinks the Earth is flat.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:51:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Dude, a whole 3rd of the world still thinks the Earth is flat.

i geuss so.

also,Tiara, as only female here, i geuss that this would get your attention : http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=63.topic
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 02:52:18 pm: Ok... Uuuhm... The thread about invalids has really pissed me off, striking a nerve very... very... VERY deep. I want to physically harm those people now. But I cant... I don't give a **** anymore what will happen... They're gonna get it one way or another. And to think it was the admins who are writing that Nazi ass ****. Yes... They will suffer... Very. Soon.:mad2:
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:54:18 pm: I take it you're one of those special people who have trouble with stairs then?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 02:55:14 pm: Well here is some nice calming music to calm everyon down.

Be soothed (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/PoVBB/leftbank.mp3)
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:55:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce
Ok... Uuuhm... The thread about invalids has really pissed me off, striking a nerve very... very... VERY deep. I want to physically harm those people now. But I cant... I don't give a **** anymore what will happen... They're gonna get it one way or another. And to think it was the admins who are writing that Nazi ass ****. Yes... They will suffer... Very. Soon.:mad2: [/QUOTE
Dark_4ce, don't, really, really, don't.

the only way we can deal with this is going into a civilized discussion. even if they are this evil, you don't just harm them, that wuld only lower you to their level.

hell, this has gone to far, i'm going to register and comment,don't bomb the forum yet, i'm going into discussion first.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 02:58:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
I take it you're one of those special people who have trouble with stairs then?

No... But my father was... And he lived a very good life. And people like those nazi pricks on that site who actually take joy in hurting disabled people and doing it in the name of a damn religeon, deserve to get the **** beaten out of them and turned into cripples themselves. But alas, like I said, I cannot fly over to the the states to hurt them. But, I got other means...

Deep breath... Ok... I'll calm down now...
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 02:59:27 pm: You do know that that Nathaniel bloke is taking the piss, right?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:00:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
You do know that that Nathaniel bloke is taking the piss, right?

Or is very, very stupid.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 03:00:54 pm: I know trolls.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 03:02:39 pm: I dunno. But it just pisses me off...

GRRR.:mad:

But I have to admit, some of the stuff there seems to be a bit ludicrous. So maybe, perhaps, they are just a bunch of dickless nerds trying to make themselves feel more bigger and stronger by telling bs stories on their threads. Yeah... I preffer to think of it that way...
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:03:46 pm: the worst part about this is that they do it in the name of god, and not for believes that they actuallymake the world a better place. the latter, like an0n, is wrong, IMHO, but at least he takes responibelity for his own actions, these people however, blame the Lord for these actions, wich is even worse.

i am an atheist, but i have respect for those that believe in a higher power, and it hurts me to see such a believe being slandered by these people.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:08:51 pm: I suggest you all listen to that music I posted, it should help you cool off a bit.
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 03:12:40 pm: looing at the forum, this has to be a crank of some form,
it's simply too much, and most of it comeing from admins
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 03:20:15 pm: Yeh. Good music. Thanks. Calmed me down...:yes:

I just want to know though... Is it that Jesus forgives all? Or is it that he doesent?

Being Jewish and all I don't have to worry, cause I can skip that part and go straight to heaven... :D

Though I'm not a religeous person. I'm quite atheist really. But I believe in a higher power... But not in a "I pray every night" or anything.
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:20:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
looing at the forum, this has to be a crank of some form,
it's simply too much, and most of it comeing from admins

i can only hope, but i am not sure, and i lean to believing this mess.
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Post by: Rictor on May 31, 2003, 03:20:53 pm: :eek2: :eek2:

The crippled thing is just...I dont think theres a word for it. I've seen skinheads who were more tolerant than these ****ers.

And anon: dont **** around you asshole. This isnt funny. If you really do agree with these people, theres no place for you in society. If, however, you're just bieng an asshole liike usual and doing it to piss people off, this aint the time.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:21:45 pm: Just occured to me that this has to be one of the fastest growing threads this forum has seen.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 03:24:59 pm: *Stops and stares...*

Yeah it is growing pritty fast isnt it? hmm...

Dude... I've like written 10-15 replies on this thread alone today...

*Is embarrased.* :blah:
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:25:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Just occured to me that this has to be one of the fastest growing threads this forum has seen.

well, if this is real, it i only natural, because this is one of the most outragous things this forum has seen.

at least in the time i've been here.
btw, thnx for the music, nice jazz.

i'm currently trying to formulate a responce on the disabled thing. but i find it hard to find words, i don;twant to be insulting, but i do want to let them see how bad this is. too bad i don'tknow ernough about the bible for this stuff, i thought there was something like "love your neighbour, and treat him like a brother", or was that another religion?
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:26:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce
*Stops and stares...*

Yeah it is growing pritty fast isnt it? hmm...

Dude... I've like written 10-15 replies on this thread alone today...

*Is embarrased.* :blah:

don't be, this is one of the worst things i've seen, ever.
edit: guys, check out the smilies on that board, those aren't truly, "biblical". i don't think this is a prank, cause if this was,someone would have removed those smilies.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 31, 2003, 03:28:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Why do you guys let yourselves be wound up by this kind of thing? Do them the greatest harm, completely ignore them and their claims.

Frankly I find creationism an exceptionally unlikely possibility, almost all available evidence points to evolution as the propagator of our species; you know this, I know this, so where's the problem? If betterthanyou believes in creationism good luck to him, it's his right as a person to believe in whatever he feels is correct, who knows, perhaps we're all wrong.

Frankly in this society, with it's current stance of 'I'm right so you have to be wrong' I find it hard to give a **** about what everyone else is 'advertising'. I believe in God perhaps due to the fact that I was born into a family that believes in God (although I must say my views are drastically different from theirs due to my exploration of what material I have available). If I was brought up by athiests then I most likely would be an athiest. If I was brought up to believe there's 13 virgins with my name on them in return for being the trigger of a remarkably exergonic reaction then I'd be running into a public place right now with not a worry in the world and hitting the button.
I believe in what I believe because it ultimately leads to a conclusion that I want; I'm sure it's a kind of selfishness on some level but I'd just like everyone to be happy, live and let live. Everybody wins.

My point is this: You're free to completely ignore everything I've just tried to explain simply because I said it. Make up your own mind and realise that someone else may have a different conclusion, it doesn't make anyone more correct. Hopefully I'm stating the obvious. :)
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Well, I like to to at least try to be tolerant of religions and there are people quite close to me whom are religious and I have no problem with. I think your point deals largely with the opinion/values/viewpoints of individuals, which are largely harmless and they can believe whatever they want.

My problem is that some amount of people (like the peeps who wrote the article I posted, or on the forum) forcibly put their beliefs on others or aim to deceive groups who can't really combat dogma and false reasoning. Additionally those who can't live up to their valued "humanity" annoy me.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:33:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

i thought there was something like "love your neighbour, and treat him like a brother", or was that another religion?

I'm pretty certain that's Christianity, after all I had it all thrust down my throat at Primary school.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 03:34:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

don't be, this is one of the worst things i've seen, ever.

Yeah, I agree with you. This has to be one of the if not the worst thing I've seen in a long time. It saddens me. But thank goodness I live in Finland... Far away from those types of people. Though I do know a friend who's dad has turned into a evangelist, he's still pritty cool. He's peaceful and is respectful to people, be it homosexual, black, or Buddhist. He has his own beliefs but doesen't shout out and tell people they will burn in hell...
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:37:57 pm: i made a post for the disabled thing, put then i saw that the thread was locked, so i copied it, and i'm looking for somewhere to post this:

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Do you honestly believe hurting the disabled is helping you to be a better person? I am no believer myself, in fact I am atheist, but I saw this forum and was stunned, how people who call themselves true believers can talk about such intolerance.

even if these people are as bad as you depict them, then why hurt them? is it your task to judge? from what I know from Christian believe, it's not the believers task to judge, but it's the task of God or Christ. explain to me why you should hurt these people in any way, even if they are as evil as you depict them. these people aren't hurting anyone, at least I haven't seen proof of the contrary.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 31, 2003, 03:42:38 pm: uuhm...
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Make a Contribution :: Direct Payment -or- Accept Offer | View Contributors | (?)
We currently have $49.00 in our chest.
The Lord handsomely rewards those who give unto Him (through such glorious ministries as this). Stop buying your greasey cheeseburgers and dope, pull out that credit card and GIVE UNTO THE LORD! OR BURN IN HELL!

I think I'm starting to see the bigger picture. These admins, might actually be using these True Christians in order to get money out of them. And basically are toying with them. Even with really shocking posts, probably trying to see if these true christians would agree. The people in it could be real, but the admins might have created it as a ploy to suck money out of them... Which might be a good thing...
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Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 03:46:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce
uuhm...

I think I'm starting to see the bigger picture. These admins, might actually be using these True Christians in order to get money out of them. And basically are toying with them. Even with really shocking posts, probably trying to see if these true christians would agree. The people in it could be real, but the admins might have created it as a ploy to suck money out of them... Which might be a good thing...

crap, yes.

well, even if someone might even be at those boards it's bad, but i geuss this is a good thing.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 03:57:26 pm: Let us hope this is the case, such bigots deserve to be sucked dry.
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Post by: Nico on May 31, 2003, 03:58:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I suggest you all listen to that music I posted, it should help you cool off a bit.

what is it, Enya? Loreena McKennit? :D
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 04:00:20 pm: 'Tis the tune from Tony Hart's old TV show, it is called Left Bank, IIRC.:D
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Post by: Top Gun on May 31, 2003, 04:04:14 pm: I'm afraid to say that it's 100% real

http://www.crank.net/religion.html (about 1/4 of the way down)
http://www.crank.net/hate.html (about 1/3 of the way down)

It's been rated crankier in the category of religion and hate mongers, trumping dr-dino.

I never thaought I'd see the day I witnessed a group of people with opinions exactly the same as Pastor Decon Fred Smith. (http://www.landoverbaptist.org) (That's a parody BTW.)

P.S. here's some Gems of wisdom for you to either laugh or get upset over (If that's what you're likely to do then I don't recomend you reading them).

Babies go to hell. (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=21.topic)
Their opinions on the British (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=31.topic) (I shudder to think what they think of the French or Dutch)
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 31, 2003, 04:07:19 pm: Can't just yet. I'm going to do it at a school PC, so my IP doesn't get tracked.

an0n, could you post a topic that's something like "Does masturbation affect your praying"? Please? :D
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Post by: Yuppygoat on May 31, 2003, 04:46:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Vega
And do you know why? Because(in large quantities) it kills living things, in this case the bacteria. If you don't believe that, read about the end of the Third Punic War. Or even better, swallow several kilograms/pounds of salt.

But that verse is actually quite accurate, with all deforestation and the likes we're doing.
:lol: :rolleyes:

You're right, Jesus was TOTALLY wrong on this one. The next verse he also says:

"Ye are the light of the world."

Do you know what light does? Light is electromagnetic radiation. In other words: at a different wavelength it could be gamma radiation! Do you even know what gamma rays can DO??? They can help form genetic mutations and even KILL people if there is enough of it. Not to mention that too much visible light can blind people and has caused multiple driving accidents.

I'm just saying that you're over-analyzing an obvious metaphor. Jesus is not saying that christains share a DIRECT corelation with salt. To even suggest that he is saying that is absurd.

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. " (Matthew 5:13)

Jesus often spoke while giving examples. trying to relate what he was saying to everyday life. I truthfully don't see what the problem is.
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Post by: Nico on May 31, 2003, 04:57:47 pm: edited for great justice.
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Post by: Carl on May 31, 2003, 05:19:04 pm: you idiot! it's not a sunset! the sun isn't setting! that's the rotation of the earth in relation to the sun! it's an earth turn!!!!

metaphors, dudes. we use them w/o even knowing it.
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Post by: Yuppygoat on May 31, 2003, 05:27:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n

So you've decided God was wrong on that one and that they shouldn't be stoned? How wonderfully arogant of you.
In the Old Testimate, God had stricter rules, with more severe punishments. This was the time of law, because Jesus had not yet come to take on the punishments.

"And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." (John 1:16-17)

God wasn't "wrong," but he has made it so that can (through the grace of Jesus Christ) forgo such punishments. Laws change, not always because the law was wrong to begin with, but sometimes through the mercy of the lawmaker.

Quote
Originally posted by an0n

What? He's saying if you're rich, you've obviously charged more for things than they were worth, or you've hoarded your cash and goods when you could have put them towards something useful and beneficial to others.

No rich man can enter the kingdom because to make yourself rich, you've got to dick on others.

Yet the mofo on that site was charging upto $100 for all his crap.

Also, you're Catholic. It doesn't matter who said it, they're all the ****ing same.

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. " (Matthew 19:24)

He doesn't say ALL rich men don't go to heaven, he says that it's not easy for them to (especially at the time he said this). I have nothing against the rich, but often someone with many wordly possessions becomes wrapped up in them too much to really surrender their life to God. There are a lot of rich christians, but one would expect them to treat all of their money and assets as tools to glorify God. Money is only good as long as you're alive. So while you're alive, it should be used to help others. It shouldn't be piling up in a bank account with no intention of actually using it, or frivolously spent on oneself. Not all rich people do this, but seldomly would a rich person surrender all of their money to glorify God.
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Post by: Rampage on May 31, 2003, 05:57:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
*sniffs Rampage's IP, DoS's him and e-mails him the Encyclopaedia Britannica 7 times*

Nice try! You can't tap into my computer! Not with Zonealarm, Norton Personal Firewall, and BlackICE running at the SAME TIME!!!!

:D :D :D
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Post by: Martinus on May 31, 2003, 06:58:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun

Their opinions on the British (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=31.topic) (I shudder to think what they think of the French or Dutch)

[color=66ff00]Oh thank God! (no pun intended)

I'm extremely relieved to see that they think that people other than themselves are so horridly different, frankly I want to be as unlike them as is humanly possible.

Another reason to be happy people! :nod:
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Post by: Rictor on May 31, 2003, 08:17:28 pm: Stunning:

It's called The American Families Protection Act and it's designed to do JUST THAT -- protect THE AMERICAN FAMILY from the forces of evil, namely homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people, which are threatening to tear the family AND THIS COUNTRY apart!!

We worked together with some truly WONDERFUL organizations: Focus on the Family (from Colorado Springs, Colorado), the American Family Association (from Tupelo, Mississippi), and Dare to Discipline (also from Colorado Springs, Colorado), as well as some wonderful BAPTIST churches which gave us some really TERRIFIC ideas!

In a nutshell, here's what The American Families Protection Act will do to protect AMERICAN FAMILIES:

Prohibit states, cities, and counties from extending to homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people special rights such as protection from job and housing "discrimination" (there is no "discrimination" against those who pervert of GOD'S WORD);

Prohibit schools from allowing homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people to gather together in groups on school property to discuss and garner support for their perversion;

Cut ALL Federal and state funding to schools who do allow homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people to gather in groups on school property to discuss and garner support for their perversion;

Prohibit textbooks from mentioning or discussing homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, and "gender dysporhia"; as well as EVILution and abortion;

Prohibit homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people from adopting children, acting as foster parents for children, or visiting houses where children are known to live;

Prohibit homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people from living within 1,500 feet of any dwelling where children are known to live or visit;

Prohibit homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people from working in any profession where they may come in contact with children;

Prohibit places of worship from hiring homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people as clergy and staff members, or using such people as volunteers;

Annul any "civil unions" or "holy unions" which may have occurred, and prohibit any further "civil unions" or "holy unions" between homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people;

Prohibit any states, cities, or county governments, or any private company from offering wasteful "domestic partner benefits" between homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people (which really amounts to nothing more than paid AIDS coverage);

Require that all states revise their penal codes to criminalize any consensual or non-consensual s*x acts between homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people as FELONIES; and to permanently revoke the right of ANY CONVICTED FELON to vote;

Require ALL homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people to register with their state Departments of Public Safety, and their local police departments as s*x offenders , and requiring all local law enforcement agencies to post notices on all houses within a three-block radius where any homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people are known to live;

Close ALL meetings places where homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people congregate, including Metropolitan Community "Churches", bars, nightclubs, baths, coffeehouses, magazine shops, film and DVD rental stores, etc.;

Make it a Federal crime for any homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people to own property, or to inherit property through a will or power of attorney;

Allow states, cities, and counties to confiscate the property of known or suspected homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people through right of eminent domain, and to require that all funds received through such right of eminent domain be returned to the states, cities and counties to reimburse them for their legal expenses;

Make it a Federal crime for any known homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people to congregate for any purpose, whatsoever.

PRAISE JESUS! We now have the opportunity to re-establish the kind of CHRISTIAN nation our Founding Fathers envisioned when they gave us this great land which we call AMERICA.

GLORY, HALLELUJAH! Our DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH, has indicated he will SIGN this bill INTO LAW when it reaches his desk!!!
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Post by: Unknown Target on May 31, 2003, 08:48:12 pm: I'm sorry, I must be the only one here, but people like this and their comments make me laugh my head off.
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 09:15:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Yuppygoat
In the Old Testimate, God had stricter rules, with more severe punishments. This was the time of law, because Jesus had not yet come to take on the punishments.

"And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." (John 1:16-17)

God wasn't "wrong," but he has made it so that can (through the grace of Jesus Christ) forgo such punishments. Laws change, not always because the law was wrong to begin with, but sometimes through the mercy of the lawmaker.

So what you're saying is that in all his infinite wisdom and transcedence of time and space that God couldn't make rules that wouldn't need to be changed?

If you're saying God just changed his mind then you are saying that God works on a linear time-scale whereby he is fixed against the happenings in our universe. As such, you're saying that theoretically God is affected by gravitational fields (as they warp time, which God is subject to). Therefore you make God a tangible quantity and therefore about as omnipotent and all-powerful as a fish.
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Post by: CP5670 on May 31, 2003, 10:02:54 pm: Quote
I'm sorry, I must be the only one here, but people like this and their comments make me laugh my head off.

Actually it is not just you; I am finding this whole affair quite hilarious, both the comments on that board and the remarks made about them here. :D
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 31, 2003, 10:14:59 pm: (http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media/S-EvolutionComplex.jpg)
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 10:20:11 pm: the fun stops when you realize there not being sarcastic,
then the fear takes hold
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 10:21:10 pm: Fanaticism is a wonderfully, beautifully, unremittingly destructive thing.
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Post by: Yuppygoat on May 31, 2003, 10:24:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n

So what you're saying is that in all his infinite wisdom and transcedence of time and space that God couldn't make rules that wouldn't need to be changed?
It's not that he couldn't have, it's that it would be better if he didn't. Some laws are better for different times. And before Jesus those laws were the best.

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Originally posted by an0n

If you're saying God just changed his mind then you are saying that God works on a linear time-scale whereby he is fixed against the happenings in our universe. As such, you're saying that theoretically God is affected by gravitational fields (as they warp time, which God is subject to). Therefore you make God a tangible quantity and therefore about as omnipotent and all-powerful as a fish.
First off, as I have stated many times (especially at WS) God exists outside of linear time. This is supported by several verses, and is the only way anything can even make sense.

That being said, just because God changed his mind (though that's not what happened) does not mean he wouldn't be omnipotent. He could still exist in a whole different plain of existance that is not affected by gravity, or any other laws of physics. And if he was an invisable yet fundamental part of all matter (as some hippies believe), then he would exist everywhere and could alter anything, yet he would not be hindered by simple physics (as he would not exactly a finite quantity).

Or if God was Gamer on a really advanced version of Sim City, where we are all sims. He could change his mind about something, and still be omnipotent.

Even though God does not exist in linear time (and does not change his mind), if he did you are making a whole lot of presumptions and using a ton of faulty logic to conclude that he would not be omnipotent.
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Post by: tEAbAG on May 31, 2003, 10:29:16 pm: (http://www.EvolveFISH.com/fish/media/S-Science2Fish.jpg)
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 10:31:17 pm: If God really was all-knowing, then why does he need to keep ****ing with humanity?

So he sends Jesus to change ****. He sends Moses to change ****. He sends Noah to change ****.

If he is so powerful and.....well, Godly, why are there such flaws in the world that he needs to interfere?

And don't give me any of this free-will ****. The very concept of omnipotence and all-knowing negates any ideas relating to free-will.
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Post by: Rictor on May 31, 2003, 10:45:01 pm: If this amuses you, then either you have an unrelenting sense of humour, or are just assholes. I think I know which applies to certain individuals....
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Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 10:45:58 pm: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 31, 2003, 10:47:22 pm: Maybe he's a bit lazy? :p

But anyway, back to the creationism vs. evolution argument: I feel there is evolution, but perhaps it was guided a bit. God wouldn't have to do everything in one week, because after all, what good is being immortal if you're not patient?
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 10:56:27 pm: evolution that is guided is not evolution,
it has it's own name, breeding
(as in breeding dogs ect...)
or perhaps domestication would fit as well
all though evolution is a broud enough defonition that this would fall under it, it would be inprecice to refer to it as such
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 31, 2003, 10:58:58 pm: I was thinking more along the lines of subtle nudges here and there, not a completely guided thing.
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 11:03:15 pm: if he is messing with it at all in order to get to some sort of result (ie he has a plan) it is breeding
(though now that I think of it breeding is more of a select two individuals to mate thing, this is more general, more like what you would get with cattle (or sheep:lol: ) so domestication might be more acurate)
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 31, 2003, 11:14:26 pm: Congratulations, Bobbau, you've just called us all mindless sheep. Oh wait, 99% of the world already was populated by mindless sheep :p
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Post by: redsniper on May 31, 2003, 11:21:53 pm: :eek: WOW this thread has grown a LOT!
that forum is really starting to scare me. discriminating against handicapped people, that one racist mother worried about her daughter's Hispanic boyfriend, its all madness. That thing about the British really pissed me off and I'm not even British!!!
it seems my country's really fu><0red
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Post by: Bobboau on May 31, 2003, 11:43:55 pm: I wasn't calling you mindless sheep :rolleyes:
(though im not refuting such sentiment now)
I was actually alluding to the shepherd-sheep metaphor used in the bible
but now that you bring it up, that might fit well too
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 31, 2003, 11:45:20 pm: I was kidding, you know. That's why the smiley and the comment at the end were there. But that actually makes sense (the reference to the sheep-herder metaphor).
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Post by: Bobboau on June 01, 2003, 12:03:29 am: eh, whatever...

*changes subject*

they caut that abortion bomber,
dumpster diveing,
for food
:lol:
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Post by: Ace on June 01, 2003, 12:04:41 am: In the spirit of an0n's posts, here goes:
Ace's Postulate on the Special Cases of Divine Intervention
Sex without marriage is a sin.
Polygamy is a sin.
Children come from sex.
Children born out of wedlock are bastards.
Jesus is the son of god and Mary.
Mary was bethrothed to Joseph.

Conclusion: God had sex with a woman he was not married to, thus Jesus is a bastard by definition.

Just food for thought :p Just the same literal bible interpretation the fundamentalists do... since afterall despite culture changes and translations our version of the bible is the literal divine word! ;)
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 04:49:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
Their opinions on the British (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=31.topic) (I shudder to think what they think of the French or Dutch)

:ha:

I'm glad they would think of us as the scum of the Earth and the children of Satan cause that'd make us their complete opposites!

;7
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Post by: 01010 on June 01, 2003, 05:21:19 am: This is nothing shocking especially, almost any fundamentalist strain of any religion is like this. The description of the British might have been offensive it hadn't been written by a buck-tooth, sister shagging, 25 stone piece of redneck trailer trash from one of the southern states.
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Post by: HotSnoJ on June 01, 2003, 05:53:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kamikaze
http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=6

Another failure of humanity, good for a laugh though.

I really respect that guy not only for his beliefs are but also cuz I've meet him in person. Good guy.

That's all I'm going to say.
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Post by: Bobboau on June 01, 2003, 06:05:30 am: you are sideing with a guy that said 'cyanide is good for you' !!!?
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Post by: Zeronet on June 01, 2003, 06:05:34 am: You sure this isnt some sort of joke site?
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Post by: karajorma on June 01, 2003, 06:10:16 am: Quote
We all know sex is a dirty, dirty deed which all must begrudgingly take part in from time to time in order we fulfill our contract with the Lord to "be fruitful and multiply" (Genesis 1:28) and insure our lady-folk with the only means of getting into Heaven they possess, for they shall only "be saved in childbearing."

Suddenly I see why they are so hostile all the time :lol:
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Post by: Top Gun on June 01, 2003, 07:26:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
You sure this isnt some sort of joke site?

No, It's listed on crank.net. Read the earlier post.

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Originally posted by HotSnoJ

I really respect that guy not only for his beliefs are but also cuz I've meet him in person. Good guy.

That's all I'm going to say.

Oh dear, oh dear, orh dear (http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/chimp_ss.gif)

You may be interested to read this (http://www.geocities.com/kenthovind/lies/), or maybe this (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood.html), or this (http://members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/HovindLie.html).

Hell even the other young earthers
think he's a complete crack pot. (http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp)
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Post by: redsniper on June 01, 2003, 07:50:14 am: I think we should invade that forum and cause a lot of trouble just for fun. We could ask them all kinds of awkward questions or just spam the place with Freespace stuff :drevil:
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Post by: karajorma on June 01, 2003, 08:22:27 am: Quote
Originally posted by redsniper
I think we should invade that forum and cause a lot of trouble just for fun. We could ask them all kinds of awkward questions or just spam the place with Freespace stuff :drevil:

Do you really want to lead them back here? :rolleyes:
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Post by: betterthanyou on June 01, 2003, 08:37:16 am: Now these sites are obvious jokes. They are playing off of church stereotypes that have been in place for the last 200 years and using those stereotypes to make all Christians out to be idiots.

If you can't see through an obvious joke, I don't know how you live in this world...

You know theonion is the best source for real, reliable news.
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Post by: Zeronet on June 01, 2003, 08:47:29 am: But a lot of christians aren't creationists so these sites don't make christians to be idiots, they just show how insane creationists actually are.
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Post by: Top Gun on June 01, 2003, 09:01:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by betterthanyou
Now these sites are obvious jokes. They are playing off of church stereotypes that have been in place for the last 200 years and using those stereotypes to make all Christians out to be idiots.

If you can't see through an obvious joke, I don't know how you live in this world...

You know theonion is the best source for real, reliable news.

Landoverbaptist, Betty Bowers and objective ministies are; this isn't.

http://www.crank.net/hate.html :rolleyes:

Edit: The more I read, the less plausible it becomes, My position is now that of "on the fence" as to wherther this is serious or a parody.

I found this rather comical concearning the war in Iraq

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True Christians (Baptists) and start using toilet paper. We'll drag those people kicking and screaming into this century if it's the last thing we do!
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 01, 2003, 09:55:21 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Do you really want to lead them back here? :rolleyes:

or brake the Prime Directive :p

I do have to say though that it's general practice here to put crackpots and nutcases in institutes for the mentally impaired :p (referring the crank-link) You guys put them on the web. I'm not sure which one is more cost effective.
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Post by: SKYNET-011 on June 01, 2003, 10:33:14 am: Quote
http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=21.topic

I'm sorry, but THAT is ****ing sick. It just pisses me off to hear people like that.
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Post by: Top Gun on June 01, 2003, 11:12:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80

or brake the Prime Directive :p

I do have to say though that it's general practice here to put crackpots and nutcases in institutes for the mentally impaired :p (referring the crank-link) You guys put them on the web. I'm not sure which one is more cost effective.

It keeps them off the street while they're constantly updating thei pages, gives everyone a laugh and saves on incarceration expenses: It's a win win situation.

Anyhow, I think it's time to up the level of crankitude in this thread to a crank.net rating of "Illucid".

People; I give you Timecube (http://www.timecube.com)
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 01, 2003, 11:15:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
People; I give you Timecube (http://www.timecube.com)

One of the more outlandish ideas :p
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Post by: Rampage on June 01, 2003, 12:07:16 pm: ADMINS: CLOSE THE DIDDLY THREAD!!!!
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 01, 2003, 12:09:47 pm: Aaargh, Ned Flanders has broken out! Stop him! :p
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 12:45:14 pm: *chops flanders' head*

DOH!
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Post by: redsniper on June 01, 2003, 02:48:22 pm: i definitely don't want to lead those creeps back here. I just thought it would be funny to stir up some trouble, I wasn't really serious. BTW that TimeCube site was one of the stupidest things I have ever seen, funny tho...
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Post by: karajorma on June 01, 2003, 03:20:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Top Gun
Anyhow, I think it's time to up the level of crankitude in this thread to a crank.net rating of "Illucid".

People; I give you Timecube (http://www.timecube.com)

I did love how he kept trying to get everyone to prove him wrong but even after reading for about 2-3 minutes I didn't have the faintest clue what he was on about :)

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I can talk with a human for hours about the Time Cube and they will agree with every claim I make

Yeah. I think most of us who were forced to talk to this nutjob would agree with him too. Well at least until he was safely back in his padded cell and no longer a danger. Seriously how many of you would say "No. You're wrong" unless they were holding a gun or baseball bat? :)
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Post by: redsniper on June 01, 2003, 03:45:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Yeah. I think most of us who were forced to talk to this nutjob would agree with him too. Well at least until he was safely back in his padded cell and no longer a danger. Seriously how many of you would say "No. You're wrong" unless they were holding a gun or baseball bat? :)

I agree. :nod: That dude is totally psycho.
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Post by: 01010 on June 01, 2003, 03:49:04 pm: One of the links posted led off to this here (http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/H/ea_4835how_i_sh.htm)

If that ever happened to me and I found out, I would superglue up her asshole and force feed her laxatives.
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Post by: Nico on June 01, 2003, 04:05:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
One of the links posted led off to this here (http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/H/ea_4835how_i_sh.htm)

If that ever happened to me and I found out, I would superglue up her asshole and force feed her laxatives.

huh! if that's true... well...
if that ever happened to me and I found out, she'd be dead.
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Post by: delta_7890 on June 01, 2003, 04:35:30 pm: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
One of the links posted led off to this here (http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/H/ea_4835how_i_sh.htm)

If that ever happened to me and I found out, I would superglue up her asshole and force feed her laxatives.

That is..that..is just one of the most horrible things I've ever read..
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 01, 2003, 05:13:03 pm: That. Is. ****ing. Sick.
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to become a hermit and have nothing, ****ING NOTHING, to do with any human contact.
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Post by: Rictor on June 01, 2003, 06:03:33 pm: Just reaffirms my belief in the need for an "internet hitman". If anyone has seen Jay and Silent Bob, you know what I mean. A person who you pay, they track down someone on the internet and kick their ass.
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Post by: redsniper on June 01, 2003, 09:41:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
Just reaffirms my belief in the need for an "internet hitman". If anyone has seen Jay and Silent Bob, you know what I mean. A person who you pay, they track down someone on the internet and kick their ass.

:yes: sounds good to me
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Post by: YodaSean on June 01, 2003, 09:53:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
No, it's fact.

Anyway: People like that annoy the **** out of me. I wouldn't care if they actually had some ****ing brains, but they're all inbred yokels who turn to Jesus because it's the fastest way of achieving power when you ain't got no brains.

You'd think that after supposedly studying the Bible and understanding the words of God, that they'd have realised at best the Bible is a massive jumbling of metaphors, a "Universe for Dummies" if you will and, at worst, a big-ass story with a crappy plot and hundreds of plot-holes.

They cannot accept the fact that some parts of the Bible are minor lies, created to allow the dumbest commoner to understand the concepts which God wished them to know of. They believe every last word is sacred and the truth. But then they ignore it when it suits them.

When was the last time you saw a gay man stoned to death in the US? Never. Because despite building the Bible up to be the be-all and end-all of rights and wrongs, they defy its teachings when it suits their wallet. If the gays can bring money to the Church, well hell, they can't be all that bad. I mean, it's only GOD who's said they should die. Why should a little thing like that get in the way of money?

****ing hypocrits.

yeah, usa is different from all those stupid middle east countries, those stupid turban wearing arabs are always killing people over stupid things. There all the same, we should just kill them all... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Bobboau on June 02, 2003, 12:25:57 am: did... you have a point :rolleyes: :wtf:
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Post by: Stryke 9 on June 02, 2003, 12:37:45 am: Not really, he just hates those damn stupid mud people, and can't wait for the day when the superior Aryan race purges their seed from the planet once and for all.

An0n: Actually, it's only if you're Protestant (and then only some strains of it) that the Bible is the final authority on everything. The Catechism has for a long time stated that only practicing homosexuals are evil.;)

As for the rest... you know Timecube is a hoax, right?
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Post by: Knight Templar on June 02, 2003, 01:24:04 am: *hasn't laughed this sadistically hard since Napalm and Silly Putty*

I'll register tommarow :drevil:
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Post by: Tiara on June 02, 2003, 01:35:35 am: :lol:

I'm sorry, but this must be the most hilarious thread in quite some time.
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Post by: Knight Templar on June 02, 2003, 02:40:35 am: no, this (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm9.showMessage?topicID=52.topic) is. :lol:

(if you've been paying attention, Floyd is the *****'s cheating christian husband who's in jail for some reason or another, none of which matters because Jesus came into his life when he was 4)

EDIT: Oh wait, found it. *speechless laughter* (http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm9.showMessage?topicID=48.topic)
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Post by: Slasher on June 02, 2003, 04:38:04 am: Are they talking about The Wizard of Oz? Haven't seen that in a loonnngggg time.

[edit] What Munchkins?
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Post by: Tiara on June 02, 2003, 04:44:23 am: Or Oz as in the prison series :p
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Post by: Sandwich on June 02, 2003, 01:57:53 pm: How'd I miss dis thread? :lol:

Let's begin:

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Originally posted by an0n

So you've decided God was wrong on that one and that they shouldn't be stoned? How wonderfully arogant of you.

Are you familiar of the time when the prostitute was caught "red-handed", and was brought before Jesus by the crowd to see what his sentence would be? They stated that, according to the Tanach (OT), she should be stoned to death. Jesus replied that that was true, and that the person who was without sin should be the first to begin the bombardment.

That's what "grace" is, by the way - getting something you don't deserve. If you deserved it, it wouldn't be grace.

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Originally posted by an0n
This just further illustrates my point that every last person, without exception, who believes in Jesus is a complete and utter retard.

*waits for a cross-toting fly to walk into his trap*

Why thank you - generalizations are sooo wonderful.

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Originally posted by kasperl
this thread shocked me:

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

it shocked me more then anything i found at rotten.com, more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW, it shocked me more then anything i have ever seen.

Oh God. :eek:

And people wonder why I dislike labeling myself a "Christian". :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by kasperl
to be honest, i am kinda afraid now. if i ever believed in satan, i do now, and i believe that these people are following him instead of thier god.

I agree 100%.

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
You never know, it might just be loads of people with a very twisted sense of humour, who keep posting, under different names, and so keep the thing going.

I hope this is the case, anyway, or I am indeed worried.

Again, agreed.

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Originally posted by an0n
Oh, and, as a matter of fact, God is not all love and happiness. He describes himself as vengeful, wrathful and all sorts of other nasty **** throughout the bible when someone pisses him off.

You've just proven to have more knowledge of the Bible than most Christians in the world today. Freaky.

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Well here is some nice calming music to calm everyon down.

Be soothed (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/PoVBB/leftbank.mp3)

Remove that please - we don't need GS down our back about files provided to download from the FTP, thank you very much. :)

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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
Being Jewish and all I don't have to worry, cause I can skip that part and go straight to heaven... :D

Heh - any chance of seeing you over here anytime? :D

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Originally posted by an0n
And don't give me any of this free-will ****. The very concept of omnipotence and all-knowing negates any ideas relating to free-will.

I'm quite willing to debate this point, if you would like - there is a quite logical explanation that even CP would accept (with the constant of God existing being agreed upon beforehand - if only for the purposes of discussion, of course). I don't want to post needlessly, though.

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Originally posted by betterthanyou
Now these sites are obvious jokes. They are playing off of church stereotypes that have been in place for the last 200 years and using those stereotypes to make all Christians out to be idiots.

If you can't see through an obvious joke, I don't know how you live in this world...

But that's just the problem - Christians today have moften made such complete morons and idiots out of themselves that to think of the stuff on that forum as real is not such a far jump as to be impossible. Unfortunately.
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Post by: 01010 on June 02, 2003, 02:38:57 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
this thread shocked me:

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechris...opicID=46.topic

it shocked me more then anything i found at rotten.com, more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW, it shocked me more then anything i have ever seen.

I have to agree with you there. One guy feels warm and fuzzy cause he (kinda) helped to kill a beggar. ****. I mean, wow. I am truly shocked.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 02, 2003, 04:46:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich

Remove that please - we don't need GS down our back about files provided to download from the FTP, thank you very much. :)

I've removed the offending MP3s, should I remove the other non-TVWP stuff that's on there?
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Post by: Knight Templar on June 02, 2003, 06:12:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by 01010

I have to agree with you there. One guy feels warm and fuzzy cause he (kinda) helped to kill a beggar. ****. I mean, wow. I am truly shocked.

Don't forget, being crippled is disgusting and vile. :)
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Post by: Martinus on June 02, 2003, 06:20:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

I've removed the offending MP3s, should I remove the other non-TVWP stuff that's on there?

[color=66ff00]As long as it doesn't amass to more than a few megs it's OK. Pictures and the like are acceptable but don't cram the FTP with anything, GS is a little sensitive about such things.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 02, 2003, 06:22:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]As long as it doesn't amass to more than a few megs it's OK. Pictures and the like are acceptable but don't cram the FTP with anything, GS is a little sensitive about such things.
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Ok, there are a few pics on there regarding other things. There is a lot of music, but that is concerned with the TVWP.
That said, it was rejected, so I could delete it.
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Post by: Sandwich on June 03, 2003, 01:08:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

I've removed the offending MP3s, should I remove the other non-TVWP stuff that's on there?

Whatever is concerned with the project IIRC is fine, although I seem to recall something about FilePlanet supporting internal project downloads, which are intended for use among the staff of a project. Whatever.

There's a filesize limit on what you can store on the server - I forget exactly what it is, but I know it's not over a meg.

EDIT: This goes for all hosted projects, obviously.
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Post by: Nico on June 03, 2003, 01:55:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Ok, there are a few pics on there regarding other things. There is a lot of music, but that is concerned with the TVWP.
That said, it was rejected, so I could delete it.

make sure that is obviously reated to the TVWP, coz otherwise they could as well delete your whole folder w/o warning :rolleyes:.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 03, 2003, 02:52:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich

There's a filesize limit on what you can store on the server - I forget exactly what it is, but I know it's not over a meg.

ONE MEG?! For the whole project?:wtf:
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Post by: karajorma on June 03, 2003, 03:09:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

ONE MEG?! For the whole project?:wtf:

You're not supposed to put anything other than your website up there. There is a way to put files up privately on Fileplanet and that is what you're supposed to use for campaign files.

So far as long as you don't actually link to anything from your website so only your team are using the files GS have been fairly lenient about that but if they do decide to have a purge and wipe anything that isn't either a HTML file or a picture don't be surprised cause that's what you agreed to when they hosted you.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 03, 2003, 03:11:14 am: I see, well I've copied all my non-TVWP ****e onto that server that Stealth arranged for me.
There are still some FS ANIs and things, though, I think it'll still be a couple of meg.
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Post by: delta_7890 on June 03, 2003, 05:46:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
this thread shocked me:

http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

it shocked me more then anything i found at rotten.com, more then the animal/human porn Tiara put on my screen at NW, it shocked me more then anything i have ever seen.

*winces* Being physically handicapped myself (with Osteogenesis Inperfecta, Type III, should anyone here be skeptical of my claim) I found this to be a bit more than insulting or offensive. And..Anon, I realize that you're a complete and utter ass to..well..just about everyone, and that you likely (or I at least hope) didn't mean for your comments to be taken on a personal level, but do try to..you know..*think* and show some level of respect for those who might have a sensativity to such viewpoints? Thanks.
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Post by: betterthanyou on June 03, 2003, 07:42:47 am: I don't think An0n can think about other's feelings. He simply does not have that level of empathy. His philosophy is kill everything, especially if it's hurting.

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But that's just the problem - Christians today have moften made such complete morons and idiots out of themselves that to think of the stuff on that forum as real is not such a far jump as to be impossible. Unfortunately.

I think part of the problem comes with grouping of Christians. Because there are so many denominations and cults that hold on to some of the teachings of Christ they are labeled as Christians. I don't know that this is fair. Very often they are not following Christ but another person or organization.

But you people were far too willing to accept this as reality.

I still cannot read any of that (bar Dr. Dino, that's real) without the words jumping out at me as parodical. I wish we could actually debate the finer points of some of these topics, as I would like to clear up certain misconceptions, but this thread is so overrun with crap from those joke sites that to try to have a meaningful conversation is ridiculous.
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Post by: Rictor on June 03, 2003, 02:32:22 pm: Well I dont have anything against religion in general, and nothing in particular against Christians. I just think that since Christianity happens to be a Western reiligion, there are more idiots who are Christian than in other religions, so thats why it has a bad rap. I dont want to generalize, but in general (I realise what I have just said) America is filled with more hatemongers and morons than most other countries, and since America is the bastion of Christianity (especially the extremist sects) then Christianity is often blamed for American stupidity.

Obviously these guys are assholes. But I also know alot of good stuff that is done by Christians. In my are there is a bunch of small, local churches which are really nice to people and do good stuff for the community, like having a "freebie firday" which is basically just like every Firday they have free food and theres ping-pong and such, and since its close to my school alot of people go there in their lunch hour.
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Post by: delta_7890 on June 03, 2003, 04:37:25 pm: I really don't have anything against religion either, weather it be Christianity, Judism, Islam, or whatever else you might practice. It's the person, not the beliefs that matter to me. Hell, my own girlfriend is Christian (a Baptist I'm told). oo;;
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 03, 2003, 05:08:22 pm: I have no problem with religion existing, as long as it doesn't interefere with me.
What annoys me is when there are people in the street preaching Christianity, and usually the more extreme forms of it. If I want to hear abour Christ, I'll go to a Church, I do NOT want to hear about it in the street.
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Post by: Rictor on June 03, 2003, 06:37:56 pm: Quote
If I want to hear abour Christ, I'll go to a Church, I do NOT want to hear about it in the street.

Now son, you stay here while daddy tries to talk to the this raving garilack...
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Post by: Bobboau on June 03, 2003, 07:50:03 pm: we don't have more idiots per capita, just the ones we have are more organised, vocal, and have access to the internet
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Post by: tEAbAG on June 03, 2003, 08:15:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I have no problem with religion existing, as long as it doesn't interefere with me.
What annoys me is when there are people in the street preaching Christianity, and usually the more extreme forms of it. If I want to hear abour Christ, I'll go to a Church, I do NOT want to hear about it in the street.

Its all fun and games until someone talks to god and starts tossing grenades. There is nothing more dangerous than a man who knows he's going to paradise.
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Post by: YodaSean on June 03, 2003, 08:41:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
did... you have a point :rolleyes: :wtf:

no, I really didn't. I don't hate people who live in the middle east, by the way. im confused :wtf:

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Not really, he just hates those damn stupid mud people, and can't wait for the day when the superior Aryan race purges their seed from the planet once and for all.

Do Aryans still exist? I thought they were either an old Indian civilization or hitler followers? :blah:
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Post by: Rictor on June 03, 2003, 09:20:33 pm: Aryans still exist, basically their ideology overlaps alot with Neo-Nazis. I read an article a few days ago how the government is cracking down on white supremacy and other hate groups, but I dont buy it. These guys are what George Bush would be if he wasnt concerned with image...

And delta, if you dont mind me asking (feel free not to answer if you dont want to) but what exactly are the effects of Osteogenesis Imperfecta, I'm just curious to know.
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Post by: karajorma on June 04, 2003, 02:42:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
And delta, if you dont mind me asking (feel free not to answer if you dont want to) but what exactly are the effects of Osteogenesis Imperfecta, I'm just curious to know.

Think Mr Glass from Unbreakable. If I remember correctly he had Type IV.

EDIT : Decided to check it out. He actually had Type I but apparently the scale isn't a linear one and type II is actually the worst one.
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Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 10:36:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

ONE MEG?! For the whole project?:wtf:

Filesize, not directory size. They find a large file, they take action.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 04, 2003, 10:47:02 am: Ahh, I'll have a check then.
What about CBanis and such? They tend to be very large.
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Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 01:02:20 pm: I _think_ GS prefers them to be FilePlanetted as well, but... meh. :p
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Post by: Rictor on June 04, 2003, 01:36:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Think Mr Glass from Unbreakable. If I remember correctly he had Type IV.

EDIT : Decided to check it out. He actually had Type I but apparently the scale isn't a linear one and type II is actually the worst one.

oh:sigh: