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Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 06:55:20 am
ok, i've got a school project on us taxes, so i have to fill in the thet taxes for 2 fictional persons, one minimum wage guy and one middlewage guy.

now, the state tax was easy, but arizona tax on the other hand. i get form 140 to file the tax, but then i need form 301 to get some number, but look at form 301: http://www.revenue.state.az.us/2002/301f.pdf , it requieres 61 other forms to fill in!

i'm going completely insane. :shaking:

and i need to do this twice :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

thank you for listening to my rant.
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: vyper on May 31, 2003, 07:07:52 am
Ah, the joys of red tape.
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 07:13:03 am
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Originally posted by vyper
Ah, the joys of red tape.


Don't.
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kode on May 31, 2003, 07:15:01 am
to quote adam weishaupt in the illuminatus! trilogy:
"the age of bureaucracy can in theory go on for as long as there is paper" or something with that effect...
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 07:20:52 am
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Originally posted by kode
to quote adam weishaupt in the illuminatus! trilogy:
"the age of bureaucracy can in theory go on for as long as there is paper" or something with that effect...


ugh, make that computers, it's all in pdf, so the paper's on me.
Title: Re: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 07:37:35 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
Which idiot thought up the Arizona tax system?


Terry Gilliam, by the sound of it. Ever seen Brazil?

27B/6 is all I have to say.
Title: Re: Re: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 07:39:10 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


Terry Gilliam, by the sound of it. Ever seen Brazil?

27B/6 is all I have to say.

uh,have you ever had to fill out 61 forms to get a total on one form wich is part of another form?

btw, i just put 0 everywhere, and now i'm struggling with some legal langauge i don't understand
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 31, 2003, 07:41:10 am
What school subject is this for, anyway? It seems like utter madness. Couldn't you just slap the form down in front of your teacher and demand that he/she fills it in?
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 07:43:21 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
What school subject is this for, anyway? It seems like utter madness. Couldn't you just slap the form down in front of your teacher and demand that he/she fills it in?

economy, and no, i can't, it's for a project i'm doing, and i kind of chose to do this, after noticing how easy it was in holland. (just punch in the numbers and let a piece of software do the job).
edit:

can anyone do me a big favor? i'm stuck at line 52 of from 140. if you want to help me understand this legal english, i'll post the pdf links

edit2:

nevermind,i think i figured it out
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: an0n on May 31, 2003, 10:41:35 am
Be a smartass and just do everything as if you were part of the Mafia. Detail your complex money laundering operations and illegal income, then tie it into your legitemate business, your associates and your lackeys, then show how you recieve no money and thus pay no tax.
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 11:00:47 am
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Originally posted by an0n
Be a smartass and just do everything as if you were part of the Mafia. Detail your complex money laundering operations and illegal income, then tie it into your legitemate business, your associates and your lackeys, then show how you recieve no money and thus pay no tax.


to much work, i just finished the second report, but that was easy, no income outside the minimum wages.
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: Joey_21 on May 31, 2003, 01:42:15 pm
Umm.... if you feel like spending some money (well, I think alot of money) then you can go to H&R block. :p
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: kasperl on May 31, 2003, 02:01:30 pm
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Originally posted by Joey_21
Umm.... if you feel like spending some money (well, I think alot of money) then you can go to H&R block. :p


the what?
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: neo_hermes on May 31, 2003, 04:46:31 pm
they are financial advisors here's the website.
http://www.hrblock.com/
Title: wich idiot thought up the arizona tax system
Post by: Joey_21 on May 31, 2003, 07:27:31 pm
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Originally posted by neo_hermes
they are financial advisors here's the website.
http://www.hrblock.com/


What he said. My dad was expecting a tax refund so he went the H&R block and to make the money process go faster he got 2 seperate checks from them for about $100-$200. Well worth it if you're expecting a tax refund. ;)