Post by: Black Ace on June 03, 2003, 08:49:58 pm
I got to thinking, WAY back when i started TPS, the whole thing came out of this killer story myself and a couple others put down on paper. However, the story called for things that just could not be realized with the current FS code... now that the source has been released, maybe, but thats water under the bridge at this point.
This may have been suggested before, and if so, I'll zap this thread to the nether-cyber-purgatory-abyss. But I was wondering, for those of you who maybe don't have the time to complete actual modding/model/mission design anymore, or maybe don't want to, perhaps you could release a summary of what your story was going to be. I'm talking more than whats listed under the "story" section of your website, but by no means TAS proportions... I hope there isnt' a campaign named TAS, maybe I've been gone too long... TAS was the never-ending Tell A Story thread... nevermind, getting sidetracked... :P
My point is, most of us have developed really cool stories for our campaigns, and for those who ARE still into modding, perhaps they could use ideas from us that they might not have thought of. And for those who aren't modding, they might provide for a good read on a rainy saturday afternoon. I don't know, I would just hate to see all these highly anticipated campaigns lost in the minds of their creators forever, and would love to know how the story WOULD have turned out, had we actually played it through.
I'll try to get the 64 page TPS story document into a more... concise form... :)
Am I way out in left-field?
Post by: Rictor on June 03, 2003, 09:33:54 pm
Off topic:
For the uneducated, Deep Angel ( www.deepangel.com ), before they changed their storyline, told the stroy of the UN Navy Armada in the year 2041. Almost all of Asia had united into the Kalithan Empire, with the UN being the other superpower to keep them in check. Seeing itself in peril and in decline, the UN built 2 huge supercavitating underwater ships, the Angelus and the Rubicon (5 were planned but 3 were never completed). BTW supercaviation is a way to essentially "fly" underwater by going so fast as to produce a bubble of air around you and then you can go as rfast underwater as you can through air. Anyways, the Kalithans unexpectedly attack Pearl Harbour and destroy most of the UN fleet ( in DeepAngel its all about underwater power, so the strenght of a nation is measured in their navy ). The Angelus under the command of Captain Julius Verne and the Rubicon escape, and figt the Kalithans throughout the world's oceans. Really cool stuff. They released the stories in the form of scripts, but its pretty easy to get into. They had about 10 or so scripts before they changed the storyline and started over, and AFAIK the new story hasnt progressed very far (I think they just did the pilot and that was about 6 or so months ago, maybe more)
Anyways, since I think I found DeepAngel thorugh the HLPBB, if anyone has the old scripts PLEASE contact me, I really want to get my hands on them again. email is: [email protected]
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 03, 2003, 10:02:24 pm
In short, TAC-2 is a sampler of a whole series of False Dawn Rising **** I knocked up in my spare time or plan to knock up in the future. More of a showcase of ships and effects than anything, and the plot reflects the fact that I really didn't care about a plot so much as the backstory and universe.
Sometime about four centuries from now, you get the standard all-powerful-empire/rebellious-outer-worlds setup, with the empire being the Earth Imperium, naturally with its capitol on Earth. The Earth gets accidentially blown up in a rebel attack (long story), closely followed (less accidentially) by two insurgent planets- which happen to be two of the four really settled planets in the Galaxy not including Earth. So, in a matter of a few hours, about 2/3 of humanity is a lot of superheated hydrogen vapor, there's practically no infrastructure, damn few resources, and you've got hundreds of little factions that are the remnants of the two "sides" blowing hell out of each other and any collateral they can find to damage.
Hundred years later, a bit of an equilibrium has been established, with another set of warring factions, the planets have been partly rebuilt, and people are getting by if not thriving. All the front lines are so heavily entrenched that there's no way they could pose a real threat to each other, which is well and good because a few still have planetbusters left over from that first war. Then, the side that ended up getting most of the EI's technology designs an antiship weapon that could cut a big swath out of enemy lines, obviously with the intent to make room to cut a path in and take out a few annoying planets.
Naturally, everyone wants a piece, and in fact someone manages to hijack it (rather easy once you've got the controls, it just blows up the battlefleet guarding it and runs), and Alpha 1's job is to recover it/steal it from them, depending.
I actually semi-dropped TAC-2 a while ago for a more interesting plot, since it was getting nowhere (I really loathe Truespace and couldn't bear to be around it long enough to flip polys, texture, and set up a heirarchy- which means I never got to learn how to POF-edit, either) but since that one involves rather less flying around in a spaceship blowing up stuff, it stands as my on-hold Freespace campaign until I get a staffer or decide to completely lose it.
Post by: Kamikaze on June 03, 2003, 10:06:28 pm
I always tend towards real scenarios which occur/have occured in military situations. A large part is psychological warfare, political assaults and the like.
For example, you can argue the Iraqi war was designed to keep other nations in fear, that the US can and will attack those it does not like for whatever reasons. Additionally using a blame/accusation method the U.S. made its citizens get into its war rage thing to highten support (accusation being WMD and Al Quaeda stuff). I try to weave this sort of stuff into my storylines.
Additionally I've noticed that FS2 has a severe lack of realism in terms of civilian traffic. (probably due to mission design and engine limitations, it may also be because FS2 is set in very irregular war situations) So do most other games. Anyway, I try to integrate some sort of media into many of my stories, it makes sense that major military encounters would be heavily covered by media.
I'll add some more ideas I've had later....
Post by: Stealth on June 03, 2003, 10:35:23 pm
great to see you!
Post by: Nico on June 04, 2003, 02:23:41 am
Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 03:23:02 am
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wow dude, i've never seen you post before! awesome!
great to see you!
:wtf:
Post by: Styxx on June 04, 2003, 08:08:24 am
Check the Fiction and Storyline sections. ;)
Post by: Stealth on June 04, 2003, 10:20:07 am
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:wtf:
don't look at me like that... it's true, he's never posted :D
Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 11:33:38 am
Post by: Nico on June 04, 2003, 11:43:02 am
stop spamming, you admin :hopping:
Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 02:07:26 pm
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"ignites holly flame thrower"
stop spamming, you admin :hopping:
Hmmm.... :drevil:
Post by: Solatar on June 04, 2003, 04:12:29 pm
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don't look at me like that... it's true, he's never posted :D
Never seen him before...
Chattanooga? Sweet, I'm in Kingsport (near Bristol, Johnson City)
Post by: Black Ace on June 04, 2003, 05:10:35 pm
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Never seen him before...
Chattanooga? Sweet, I'm in Kingsport (near Bristol, Johnson City)
ROFL... look at all these n00bs sandwich... I was playing FS1 when they were in diapers... ;)
Tis true, I've been gone a long time. But the name has ALWAYS been on the staff list... maybe you should visit other places on HLP, aside from the forums, like THE MAIN PAGE! :lol:
Anyways, getting off-topic... I'm starting to hijack my own topics! :eek
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don't look at me like that... it's true, he's never posted :D
Registered: Apr 2001 | Posts: 689 :wtf:
Post by: Knight Templar on June 04, 2003, 05:47:29 pm
Post by: Stealth on June 04, 2003, 06:01:34 pm
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ROFL... look at all these n00bs sandwich... I was playing FS1 when they were in diapers... ;)
excuse me, i've been playing FS1 longer than you, i can guarantee that.
Tis true, I've been gone a long time. But the name has ALWAYS been on the staff list... maybe you should visit other places on HLP, aside from the forums, like THE MAIN PAGE! :lol:
:D ;) yeah, but we thought you were one of those people that's an admin, but only makes like 2 posts every year or so
Anyways, getting off-topic... I'm starting to hijack my own topics! :eek
Registered: Apr 2001 | Posts: 689 :wtf:
what i SHOULD'VE said is "he's never posted... in over a year. c'mon, you have to admit... you can't blame us for not knowing/remembering/recognizing you...
Knight_Templar: Don't pretend you know him either. remember, i've been registered here longer than you, so if i have never met him, you definately haven't
Post by: Knight Templar on June 04, 2003, 06:04:44 pm
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Knight_Templar: Don't pretend you know him either. remember, i've been registered here longer than you, so if i have never met him, you definately haven't
Oh, Sorry Stel_ath, I just happen to read the main page (not to mention TPS. And then again, some of us were major lurkers before they signed up :nervous: ) and when I get reeaaaallllyyy bored, I go through supposedly dead admins and read their posts. I think it's has to do a Setekh Withdrawl Sydrome.
What I really need is a strong father figure in my life. Alas :sigh:
Post by: Stealth on June 04, 2003, 06:09:22 pm
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Oh, Sorry Stel_ath, :rolleyes: pathetic comeback if i may say so. hahahaha :rolleyes: I just happen to read the main page (not to mention TPS.
And then again, some of us were major lurkers before they signed up :nervous: )
hahahaha. that's a good one, i'll have to remember that. knowing you, you've got no life, you couldn't "lurk" for more than 2 minutes without having the urge to sign up and spam
and when I get reeaaaallllyyy bored, I go through supposedly dead admins anc read there posts. I think it's has to do a Setekh Withdrawl Sydrome.
and Setekh was leaving/about to leave when you entered, so... no.
What I really need is a strong father figure in my life. Alas :sigh:
it's fun arguing with 14 year olds, especially ones with no life :D
Black Wolf: Great to meet you! I like the idea, i say go for it! I actually remember "Tell a Story"... how many pages was that thread again? wasn't it close to the hundreds? Whatever happened to Plasma anyway, occasionally he'll make a post at the VWBB, but when he does people (*cough* *Knight_Templar* *cough*) think he's Orange :D
Post by: Unknown Target on June 04, 2003, 06:12:16 pm
I remember you! :D
Post by: Knight Templar on June 04, 2003, 06:23:25 pm
Post by: Solatar on June 04, 2003, 07:08:09 pm
And would the both of you just shut-up before this thread gets closed.
I don't care if I'm really 14, not many people care about age here. Nobody even knew I was 14 until I posted my birthday...
Post by: Knight Templar on June 04, 2003, 07:12:25 pm
err yeah, who's got dead campaign stories? I know I do, but it would take me some time to pick out a good one and type it...
Post by: Rictor on June 04, 2003, 07:24:54 pm
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Anyways, since I think I found DeepAngel thorugh the HLPBB, if anyone has the old scripts PLEASE contact me, I really want to get my hands on them again. email is: [email protected]
Thats right folks, just a FRIENDLY REMINDER that I'm really looking for the old eps, if anyone has them
Post by: Black Ace on June 04, 2003, 07:57:52 pm
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excuse me, i've been playing FS1 longer than you, i can guarantee that.
I'd like to see some proof... ;7
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What made you come back, BA?
I remember you! :D
Well, as I said before, I've been lurking around... just got busy with school over the last year, junior year in college, student government vice president, not to mention work. Just had to take a break...
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Knight_Templar: Don't pretend you know him either. remember, i've been registered here longer than you, so if i have never met him, you definately haven't
Well stealth, I remember you... for more reasons than one... I'll say no more.. :rolleyes:
And since this thread is already going downhill, I might as well say thanks for all the 'Welcome backs'
Now back on topic before I close my own thread! ;)
Post by: Rictor on June 04, 2003, 08:22:38 pm
But I think what would ultimately be better, is if we created a common storyline and characters, set the format of the writing, then we have all the writers doing different episodes but in the same style with the same storyline etc, but of course they add whatever events and coolness they have in their minds
that way, you could get much faster release schedule I know in Deep Angel, you had to wait a good month or two between episodes, but if we have several people writing then that could be shortened down. This would especially be cool if we coul get some renderers onboard, to doa few pics per episode, to add life to the story. After having seen Deep Angel succeed, I realy like this idea and think it can work..
damn it, we dont have an enthusiasm smily
Post by: Sandwich on June 04, 2003, 08:38:00 pm
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ROFL... look at all these n00bs sandwich... I was playing FS1 when they were in diapers... ;)
P'raps, but not while I was in diapers.... but that's just since I'm part of the older half of the forumite spectrum. ;)
Post by: Black Wolf on June 04, 2003, 09:53:02 pm
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Black Wolf: Great to meet you! I like the idea, i say go for it! I actually remember "Tell a Story"... how many pages was that thread again? wasn't it close to the hundreds? Whatever happened to Plasma anyway, occasionally he'll make a post at the VWBB, but when he does people (*cough* *Knight_Templar* *cough*) think he's Orange
Hi! Great to see you here too Stealth! Glad you could make it.
TAS died somewhere around the 70 page mark, primarily because UBB5 (which the VBB was built on) decided it didn't like to display page numbers above 64, though as far as most people are concerned it died after about page 12 or so when it got taken over by bunch of newbs who thought they were funnier than they really were...
And I thought you and KT had decided not to be *****es to each other for awhile now?
Post by: Stealth on June 04, 2003, 10:17:13 pm
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Hi! Great to see you here too Stealth! Glad you could make it.
And I thought you and KT had decided not to be *****es to each other for awhile now?
1) sorry, i meant Black Ace :D
2) Naaa, we're cool. we just mess around sometimes. he can be pretty cool and helpful when he wants.
Post by: Stealth on June 04, 2003, 10:22:05 pm
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Well stealth, I remember you... for more reasons than one... I'll say no more.. :rolleyes:
really? more than one reason?
Was it the free hosting i've been giving out to people?
Perhaps the www.hardlightproductions.com domain i bought for the community?
No? Perhaps my involvement in the FSSCP tester list and website?
Still not? Perhaps all the hosted campaigns i'm involved in?
I'm trying to think... before today, i don't think i ever saw one post of yours, and i'm pretty regular here... i'm trying to think, you might know me from the VBB, but i doubt it, because i don't remember you.
so i'm thinking, if i never saw your posts, how did you see mine? OK, you were lurking... then perhaps you saw my argument with Shrike about him accusing me of warez? Then there was the incident where i was banned for a week for helping someone find the (illegal) version of a program. other than that i can't think.
enlighten me.
Post by: Nico on June 05, 2003, 02:17:18 am
sometimes it's just a great thing to realize that you CAN go over some completly uninteresting "problem" and forget about it...
Post by: Stealth on June 05, 2003, 12:06:07 pm
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rah, stop that, Stealth, even I remeber Black Ace very well.
sometimes it's just a great thing to realize that you CAN go over some completly uninteresting "problem" and forget about it...
hehehe, sorry Venom. it's jut funny ;)
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 05, 2003, 05:49:38 pm
Anyway, uh, welcome back and all.
Hey, weren't you going out to get me ice cream when you dissapeared?
You ate it all and ran, didn't you?
You *****! I cut you!
Post by: vyper on June 05, 2003, 06:30:26 pm
Anyway, on topic... wait what is teh topic? *scrolls down* Righto...
Maelstrom: Fight For The Future (Working on it but progress is slow)
50 years have passed since Capella. For 25 of those years contact has been reestablished with Sol. Sol has been incorporated into the GTVA, and colonisation and expansion into newly discovered systems have progressed well. However, five years ago, after a Vasudan scientist named Deshreb manage to "repair" the Vasuda Prime eco-system, stirrings in the Vasudan ranks began to appear. Quickly a young idealistic generation took up a separatist stance, calling themselves the Vasudan Republican Coalitin, they rejected the Vasudan Emperor and the GTVA. Two major battle groups rallied to thier cause. Unwilling to risk another civil war (like the NTF), the GTVA surrendered Vasuda Prime to the rebels.
However, with Sol and Vasuda now having direct subspace links to a new colony system, tensions are rising. The VRC conduct regular attacks on GTVA bases, and it is only a matter of time before the situation escalates.
(to get the feel, listening to briefing track 4 when reading this)
Excerpt from Command Briefing, Admiral Wolf - CO GTD Ark Royal (Raynor Class Destroyer, flagship 1st fleet)
...The Vasudan Republican Coalition has struck another three of our outlying colonies this morning with greater impact than before. Two colonies require massive reconstruction assistance and one was so severely damaged it is being abandoned and requires complete evacuation.
For our new arrivals I should inform you that although the VRC is still not considered officially at war with the GTVA, we are in effect engaged in daily skirmishes with thier forces.
The colony to be evacuated is in the [color=royal blue] Plara[/color] system, which is one jump from [color=royal blue] Sol[/color]. Unfortunately it is also one jump away from [color=royal blue] Vasuda Prime[/color]. After the rejuvination of [color=royal blue] Vasuda Prime [/color] by Dr. Deshreb, the VRC took control of it as thier capital. This is where the heaviest concentration of thier warships are and despite thier age, they are a significant threat to unprotected civilian transports. The Horatio, a Chimera class corvette, the GTCv Freedom and the GTxC Armand, a Torpedo Cruiser, are being sent to defend Plara from any opportunistic attack by the VRC.
If anyone likes this so far, I'll post some more later.
Post by: CP5670 on June 05, 2003, 10:17:31 pm
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/procyon/story.htm
Actually I should probably update this thing, as it was written over two years ago and my english has significantly improved since then. :p However, at the moment I have every intention of releasing this campaign despite the extremely outdated website. :p :D