Hard Light Productions Forums

Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 02:14:00 pm

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 02:14:00 pm
What? you were expecting for a blocky space station? sorry, it's harlock's Arcadia from the TV series captain Harlock (not sure about the english name for it, seems there's not even an english version poor you   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )
 
 



[This message has been edited by venom2506 (edited 12-21-2001).]
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 02:17:00 pm
I have to add that for now the turrets are facing the enemy but won't show, dunno why.
Otherwise, it needs smoothing, engine glows, some more subsystems, a docking point and maybe better debris (coz they suck, but anyway, the Arcadia never loose, so they shouldn't be seen  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 21, 2001, 02:30:00 pm
oh my god
i MUST have it

matsumoto rulez, but i'd like a yamato too
(argo in us) whooohohoh what about a matsumoto MOD  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 02:40:00 pm
well, unfortunately, this series (the one with the Yamato), never sown in France, so I've never been really interested in this one (isn't the yamato the ship we see during about one second at the very end of Harlock saga, with the pinky blobs flying all over the place, during harlock speach?)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: mikhael on December 21, 2001, 03:15:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
well, unfortunately, this series (the one with the Yamato), never sown in France, so I've never been really interested in this one (isn't the yamato the ship we see during about one second at the very end of Harlock saga, with the pinky blobs flying all over the place, during harlock speach?)

Here's the Yamato. She's a real beauty, much like the Arcadia: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588 ("http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588")

scroll to the bottom for some of the pics.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

------------------
--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 03:23:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael:
Here's the Yamato. She's a real beauty, much like the Arcadia: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588 ("http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588")

scroll to the bottom for some of the pics.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


seems to be down  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 03:44:00 pm
Just do NOT tell me you've got a yamoto converted for FS2!!!! I've been trying that for...well.....over a year now  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Actually just about every weekend I hunt online for just about ANY starblazers craft models i can find. Sadly it's mostly alot of pics of models ppl were working on a decade ago.

I do have a concept Yamoto II thou  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 04:09:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Warlock:
Just do NOT tell me you've got a yamoto converted for FS2!!!! I've been trying that for...well.....over a year now   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Actually just about every weekend I hunt online for just about ANY starblazers craft models i can find. Sadly it's mostly alot of pics of models ppl were working on a decade ago.

I do have a concept Yamoto II thou   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

well, the link above doesn't work, anyway, from what I remember, the Yamato shape is much simpler than the arcadia one, so if I can get pics as good as the ones I got for the Arcadia (maps are scans from a quad view schematics, I found them on the web, just had to cut them into pieces, rebuild the top and bottom ones coz they were half cut and put together, if you know what I mean, change some brightness settings et voila), I may do it... later.

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 21, 2001, 04:19:00 pm
I need that ship  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 04:26:00 pm
ok, I did some search around, and even if I prefer the arcadia, the yamato is a good looking ship so here's the deal Warlock:
if you find pics as accurate as those schematic pics( http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588 ("http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BAN77588")  ), I'll make it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 04:26:00 pm
LOL

It is a killer ain't it?

Wonder how many ppl are going to go through the "new personal flagship" era now  ?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 04:29:00 pm
Hell,...I'll be happy with close to a Yamoto.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I've always been a major SB fan...mostly of the style cruisers  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 04:56:00 pm
Hell actually...Venom...you want this Yamoto II concept model I have to toy around with?

It's waaaaaaaaaaay highly detailed...around 300K polys or so...lightwave format.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 21, 2001, 05:13:00 pm
The Yamato has Hangers! It rocks!
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 05:18:00 pm
You never knew this before?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 21, 2001, 05:20:00 pm
I dont even know what these ships are from really. I live in England so i havent seen the program.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 06:04:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Warlock:
Hell actually...Venom...you want this Yamoto II concept model I have to toy around with?

It's waaaaaaaaaaay highly detailed...around 300K polys or so...lightwave format.

Yamato2? lol, you may like the Yamato ( Yamato dude  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) ) 2500 made by Sid meyer for the OAVs  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (you see, I learn things fast: Life is study  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 06:04:00 pm
Look up Starblazers or Space Battleship Yamoto for all the info on the yamoto  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 06:11:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Warlock:
Look up Starblazers or Space Battleship Yamoto for all the info on the yamoto   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

ok, but you, find the schematics (it was a long search for the Arcadia, I won't do it again).
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 21, 2001, 06:22:00 pm
I assume the first ship in the thread lacks any form of Fighter/Bombing launching equipment or am i wrong?

EDIT: Threat changed to thread.

[This message has been edited by Zeronet (edited 12-21-2001).]
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 06:24:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
ok, but you, find the schematics (it was a long search for the Arcadia, I won't do it again).

No no lol that was directed to Zeronet when he said he'd never heard of the shows b4.

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 06:26:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
Yamato2? lol, you may like the Yamato ( Yamato dude   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) ) 2500 made by Sid meyer for the OAVs   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (you see, I learn things fast: Life is study   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )
Not sure I've ever seen a pic of her or not....least not that I KNEW of lol.

i've seen hundreds of Yamoto varients
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 21, 2001, 06:26:00 pm
Hmm i didnt know it was directed to me either, hmm i try looking sounds interesting.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 21, 2001, 06:29:00 pm
 http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Harbor/3904/geoyamato.html ("http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Harbor/3904/geoyamato.html")

 http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/5523/index.html ("http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/5523/index.html")

there were a site also with all the episodes of the first tv serie in streaming video here: http://www.studionext.tv/shows/starb/index.html ("http://www.studionext.tv/shows/starb/index.html")  but it seems to be down (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Turnsky on December 21, 2001, 06:36:00 pm
Yes... i remember seeing that series quite a while ago, i even have a comic book with the "yamato" ("Argo" in the US version)
 i think in it. i do know it came from "starblazers"

(// [url="http://www.cet.com/~rascal/graphics/sb-blast.gif"]http://www.cet.com/~rascal/graphics/sb-blast.gif[/url]  )

[This message has been edited by Turnsky (edited 12-21-2001).]
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 06:38:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky:
Yes... i remember seeing that series quite a while ago, i even have a comic book with the "yamato" ("Argo" in the US version)
 i think in it. i do know it came from "starblazers"

[This message has been edited by Turnsky (edited 12-21-2001).]

it didn't, Starblazer is just the english name for the original series that comes from the manga (btw, the US versions seems to be modified... bah, usual US bad habit...)

Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Turnsky on December 21, 2001, 06:44:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
it didn't, Starblazer is just the english name for the original series that comes from the manga (btw, the US versions seems to be modified... bah, usual US bad habit...)


I know that, the Japanese name was
"spacebattleship Yamato"

Come to think about it the Yamato out of starlancer doesn't come even close to this one  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2001, 06:50:00 pm
The voice of that Captian dude from the Simpsons popped into my head for some readon  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 21, 2001, 06:50:00 pm
 
Quote
Yes... i remember seeing that series quite a while ago, i even have a comic book with the "yamato" ("Argo" in the US version)
i think in it. i do know it came from "starblazers"
(// [url="http://www.cet.com/~rascal/graphics/sb-blast.gif"]http://www.cet.com/~rascal/graphics/sb-blast.gif[/url]  )

this is a pic of yamato with wings for atmospheric flight.
actually there are 3 tv series of yamato (against gamilon and desslar/dessler/desslok the first, agains comet empire the second and the search of a new earth the third, and there are also 5 or 6 films... the first two related (but different) to the firts two series, the others are almost indipendent from the series.
there are also other variants of yamato with different crew created and films( i've nevere seen em) with theese ships
Matsumoto as i heard is actually creating a new yamato tv serie about 1000 years after the original one as i heard...
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 21, 2001, 06:56:00 pm
Bah, the Arcadia still ownz  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Turnsky on December 21, 2001, 07:02:00 pm
Some of those ships look vaguely like the modern day "Iowa" Class Battleships
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 21, 2001, 07:24:00 pm
anyway your model is really...
huge!!

just two tips....
add some polys to the wooden area (expecially to the side windows that needs to be extruded) and improove wings textures... i mean.... the area of the wings you are pointing to in the first photo.....

wow the more i like at the photos the more i go crazy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
its really a great thing...i can't wait to see it released (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: mikhael on December 21, 2001, 07:26:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky:
Some of those ships look vaguely like the modern day "Iowa" Class Battleships

Turnsky, in the show, the Yamato is THE Japanese Navy Battleship Yamato, raised from the ocean floor and made into a spacecraft.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) She looks like an old battleship because she IS an old battleship.


------------------
--Mik
http://www.404error.com
ruhkferret on ICQ/AIM
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Turnsky on December 21, 2001, 07:40:00 pm
I didn't know that, the series wasn't screened all that often in australia particularly in Tas
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 08:20:00 pm
The new show taking place 1000 years after the old Yamoto is Great Yamoto,..she's been at the bottom of the Artic ocean the whole time...has become partially sencient (sp?),..grown about 100,000 tons (from 75,000 tons to 174,000 tons) added I think 4 shock cannons,..made the wave motion gun even MORE powerful, and added two more wave motion engines.


And IF I can get these damned Yamoto 2 LWO to work in ts4.2 of 3ds max r3 I'll slap up a pic of her.

Might just whip out one from 3dXplorer just as a reference.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 08:28:00 pm
Screw it the merged file from 3dx won't open in either,...and I'm not starting object by object just yet   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) So here's a few quickies from 3dx

 

 

 



[This message has been edited by Warlock (edited 12-21-2001).]
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Warlock on December 21, 2001, 10:06:00 pm
ACK! Now I know why TS4.2 doesn't like that Yamoto 2 model.....once fully assembled...it's over 800,000 polys! Sweet geeeeeeezus the rendering is like a 500 year old woman crossing the street and trying to be slow about it!

And here I thought the new 800 mHZ P III and the 256 ECC ram would speed ts up a little  lol
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Turnsky on December 22, 2001, 01:39:00 am
Try it in Gmax and see what happens might work or might not who knows. looks great though, tone down the polys and convert it into a freespace 2 model  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by Turnsky (edited 12-21-2001).]
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 22, 2001, 04:54:00 am
 
Quote
800,000 polys

heheheh, my pc will crash if i only THINK to open a model like that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

*oooops system crash!*
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 22, 2001, 07:53:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by KARMA:
anyway your model is really...
huge!!

just two tips....
add some polys to the wooden area (expecially to the side windows that needs to be extruded) and improove wings textures... i mean.... the area of the wings you are pointing to in the first photo.....

wow the more i like at the photos the more i go crazy  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
its really a great thing...i can't wait to see it released  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

4 km long, just like the actual ship. Otherwise, yes, but no:
the main hull already uses more than 2100 polys dude! To have so many details, I had to make consessions, and well, general shape is more important.
Same thing for the maps: as it is, it uses 25 maps ( 22 for the main lod). If I add any more stuff, the FS2 engine just won't be able to handle it.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: KARMA on December 22, 2001, 12:54:00 pm
 
Quote
4 km long, just like the actual ship

ehehehheheh i wasn't arguing about size... great was in the meaning of wonderful model (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

my english really suck (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Skippy on December 22, 2001, 02:19:00 pm
Venom, is it the Albator 84 ship ?
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 22, 2001, 02:52:00 pm
yup
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Zeronet on December 22, 2001, 03:36:00 pm
4km long, wow. Didnt think it was that big.
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Setekh on December 23, 2001, 01:06:00 am
You got that thing in-game?! ****** ...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
Title: The Arcadia never looked so good!!!
Post by: Nico on December 23, 2001, 07:24:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
You got that thing in-game?! ****** ...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)

Well, actually, I let woomeister do all the TS stuff  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)