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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Darkage on June 08, 2003, 11:55:00 am
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Found this image on a ST site, prety funny.:D
(http://www.stinsv.com/TNg/640borg/billborg.jpg)
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:lol:
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(http://www.fattonys.com/images/billysm.jpg)
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That one's far more realistic.
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Don't you guys know that there are only three things that'll defeat the Borg: ludicrously large fleets (see First Contact), bad writing (see Voyager), and Microsoft Windows Me (see some random forward I read once) :p
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Don't you guys know that there are only three things that'll defeat the Borg: ludicrously large fleets (see First Contact), bad writing (see Voyager), and Microsoft Windows Me (see some random forward I read once) :p
Or wimpified Borg (see: Star Trek). :no: :rolleyes:
*yearns for the early days of the Borg*
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At least they're making up for the pussification of the Borg with some ass-kicking on Enterprise. Photonic torpedoes, increased armour, soldiers onboard and Archer's new "**** it, kill them." attitude.
The more agressive races are totally boned now Starfleet has started making ships with some bite.
Enterprise looks ready to pick right up in Season 3. And by the end-of-Season-4/beginning-of-Season-5 they'll have the NX-02 backing them up.
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Meh, the Defiant still ownz :p It blasts away a few Jem'Hadar vessels in a single run :D I still don't know why they don't install Pulse Phasers on every ship. The totally own normal phasers...
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weren't they fixed (small angle of fire) though on the defiant?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
weren't they fixed (small angle of fire) though on the defiant?
Yeah they were.
As far as I know, the problem with pulse phasers was the massive power that they required (which the Defiant was notourious for having anyways) and a seemingly fixed position. I bet the thing about the Defiant class was that the size permitted a much smaller shield size and allowed the craft to be so manuverable that it could go head on at all targets. Not practical for a Galaxy or Sovereign class vessel.
I would have loved to see a Sovereign take down some Jem'hadar...probably would have been taking down those Fighter craft in single hits if targeted properly.
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four hundred years in the future and they can't figure out how to make a turret
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they did... sorta... i remember an ep of ds9 where the station had hoardes of pop-up turrets of some description... forgot what it was called tho;)
as for archer's arsekicking let's not forget kirk's 'fed fu':p
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Originally posted by Turnsky
forgot what it was called tho;)
Way of the Warrior
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thanks...
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That picture must be ten years old by now..... sheesh. :p
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Originally posted by Shrike
That picture must be ten years old by now..... sheesh. :p
yeah, today's Borg don't need glasses :p
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Originally posted by Bobboau
four hundred years in the future and they can't figure out how to make a turret
The Sovereign has a Quantum Turret :)
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
The Sovereign has a Quantum Turret :)
don't you mean Quantum Torpedoes? :p
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Actually, I meant Quantum Torpedo Turret. I heard someone say once that the quantum launcher on the saucer could aim in a path other than just straight ahead.
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The Romulan Warbird is cool.
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The Warbird is nothing! Give me a shuttlecraft, and kilo of antimatter, and a manic pilot, and I'll take out anything!
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I'll take the Akira over anything any day...
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
The Warbird is nothing! Give me a shuttlecraft, and kilo of antimatter, and a manic pilot, and I'll take out anything!
I said it looks cool i didn't say it was a match for a fed ship:D
But my fav ship is the Prometheus.
Type Attack Cruiser
Unit Run NX 59650 USS Prometheus
no decision yet taken on class production.
Commissioned None to date.
Dimensions Length : 415 m
Beam : 163 m
Height : 64 m
Decks : 15
Mass 950,000 tons
Crew 175
Armament, Docked Mode 12 x Type XII Phaser arrays, total output 60,000 TeraWatts
2 x Pulse fire quantum torpedo tubes + 290 torpedoes
Armament, Separated Mode Primary Hull :
6 x Type XII Phaser arrays, total output 30,000 TeraWatts
2 x Pulse fire quantum torpedo tubes + 115 torpedoes
Secondary Hull :
4 x Type XII Phaser arrays, total output 20,000 TeraWatts
3 x Pulse fire quantum torpedo tubes + 175 torpedoes
Tertiary Hull :
8 x Type XII Phaser arrays, total output 40,000 TeraWatts
Total :
18 x Type XII Phaser arrays, total output 90,000 TeraWatts
5 x Pulse fire quantum torpedo tubes + 290 torpedoes
Defence Systems Auto-modulated high capacity regenerative shield system, total capacity 3,915,000 TeraJoules
Heavy Duranium/Tritanium double hull plus 18 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
(TNG Scale) Normal Cruise : Warp Factor 8
Maximum Cruise : Warp Factor 9.9 in testing - engines still under development
Maximum Rated : Not yet established; expected to be Warp 9.99+
Strength Indices,
Multi Vector (all)
(Galaxy class = 1,000) Beam firepower : 1,800
Torpedo Firepower : 3,375
Weapon Range and Accuracy : 1,175
Shield Strength : 1,450
Hull Armour : 3,100
Speed : 4,125
Combat Manoeuvrability : 12,500
Overall Strength Index 2,347
Strength Indices,
Docked Mode
(Galaxy class = 1,000) Beam firepower : 1,200
Torpedo Firepower : 1,350
Weapon Range and Accuracy : 1,175
Shield Strength : 1,450
Hull Armour : 3,100
Speed : 4,125
Combat Manoeuvrability : 8,500
Overall Strength Index 1,627
Diplomatic Capability Grade 2
Expected Hull Life 84 years
Refit Cycle Minor : 1 year
Standard : 3 years
Major : 12 years
(http://www.ditl.org/Gengrafix/promcrui.jpg)
(http://www.ditl.org/Gengrafix/promhit.jpg)
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You would really think that with the advent of sentient holograms(the Doctor) that starship computers would be start being based on a such an obviously superior Artificial Intelligence. Don't automate the ships but give them the ability to rationalize and defend themselves should the crew become incapacitated.
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Meh, gime the Defiant! Pulse Phaser cannon owns!
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You know, that first pic takes me back. That was the loading screen on my box back when I was a kid, when Win95 was exciting and new.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
The Warbird is nothing! Give me a shuttlecraft, and kilo of antimatter, and a manic pilot, and I'll take out anything!
silly little man. a kilogram of anti-matter wouldn't even do the damage of one photon torpedo.
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That's one effective torpedo. So... why are these ships storing planetbusters?
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Gosh, I never realized that you guys were such residual Trekkies. :p
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Originally posted by Carl
silly little man. a kilogram of anti-matter wouldn't even do the damage of one photon torpedo.
Well that's ludicrous, surely you'd be able to take out a small moon with a gram of antimatter, or have been studying the life of Mako Spince for too long?
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one gram of anti-matter could take out a city at best.
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I've definitely been reading too much StarWars fanfic, then.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Well that's ludicrous, surely you'd be able to take out a small moon with a gram of antimatter, or have been studying the life of Mako Spince for too long?
I put up the calculations somewhere. 1 Kilo of antimatter (plus 1 kilo of matter) would equal a 43 Megaton H-Bomb.
That a fairly large H-bomb but bigger have been built.
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Originally posted by Carl
silly little man. a kilogram of anti-matter wouldn't even do the damage of one photon torpedo.
Uhm, it was my understanding that the payload in so-called photon torpedoes is in fact anti-matter.
Personally I never understood why they never used transporters offensively. Why launch a torpedo when you can beam it directly into a ship's path? Heck, if they aren't shielded against transporters, just beam a torpedo directly inside the ship.
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because photon torpedoes don't exist, and "anti-matter" definately can't be "beamed" into a ship
you've got a pretty good point though
:rolleyes:
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I think they're aware of the fact that it doesnt exist...
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they know, i'm just messing with him ;)
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:wtf: "Photon torpedoz dont exsit! lolol" hardly qualifies as messing with. Grade-Z trolling, maybe.
In any case, damn the (photon) torpedoes. Deploy a special brute-force transporter that doesn't care about atomic precision or putting its subject back together again, and you've basically got a disintegration beam that doesn't even need to breach the target's hull to take out critical systems.
A ship armed with a bank of these "attack transporters" could, once the shields were knocked down, literally carve up an enemy ship in seconds.
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I'm with Darkage on this - if I had to choose a ship predefined in the Trek fiction:
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/mattB/prom.png)
I found that image in amongst my older files. Dunno who did the model, and it looks like I'd been playing with lighting.
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That is a pretty cool ship. But, nothing will ever beat the Defiant!!!
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
:wtf: "Photon torpedoz dont exsit! lolol" hardly qualifies as messing with. Grade-Z trolling, maybe.
In any case, damn the (photon) torpedoes. Deploy a special brute-force transporter that doesn't care about atomic precision or putting its subject back together again, and you've basically got a disintegration beam that doesn't even need to breach the target's hull to take out critical systems.
A ship armed with a bank of these "attack transporters" could, once the shields were knocked down, literally carve up an enemy ship in seconds.
Trying to apply common sense to StarTrek is pointless, all the episodes are contradictory, etc etc...
Anyway, according to StarTrek, your shields have to be down to use transporters... in which case while you are busy transporting your payload, the enemy ship could carve your ship into many bite-size pieces :p
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The Prometheus was an amazingly stupid idea. A ship that can split into three little ships is never going to be as efficient in either role as one big or three little dedicated ships, for the simple reason of mechanical complexity. All the space given over to docking mechanisms and redundant infrastructure takes directly away from space for shield generators, weapons, etc.
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you have a point there...
and given the fact that most starfleet vessels are science and exploritory vessels(defiant is the first dedicated warship in starfleet) the ships seem a little flimsy to me..
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Originally posted by karajorma
I put up the calculations somewhere. 1 Kilo of antimatter (plus 1 kilo of matter) would equal a 43 Megaton H-Bomb.
That a fairly large H-bomb but bigger have been built.
And just how massive is the reacting part (the plutonium and the hydrogen) in 43 megaton H-Bomb? Compare that to 2 kilograms of M-AM.
If we had AM bomb as massive as that nuke the explosive power would be in the gigatons.
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the "illudium p-38 explosive space modulator" rules all;)
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Originally posted by Mr. Vega
And just how massive is the reacting part (the plutonium and the hydrogen) in 43 megaton H-Bomb? Compare that to 2 kilograms of M-AM.
If we had AM bomb as massive as that nuke the explosive power would be in the gigatons.
True, the 57 MT Tsar Bomba was something like 8 tons (if not bigger) and needed a specially-modified airplane to drop. However, people do have a skewed view of how powerful antimatter is, most people think it's a lot more powerful than it is. As if it's not powerful enough already....
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*cough*meson*cough*
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especially a few dozen held within an orion...
*BOOM* ;)
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Meh... *makes star implode*
Black holes own!
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ahhh, yes.. the quantum singularity.... very potent indeed...
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Originally posted by Tiara
Meh... *makes star implode*
Black holes own!
You're not Carter (or Dylan Hunt for that matter) so you can't just go imploding/exploding stars/black-holes.
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You actually watch Andromeda. It tries to be Star Trek and it fails miserably.
In short, IT SUCKS.
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Andromeda is what happens when you leave Roddenberry's ideas in the fridge too long :p
That said, the show can be amusing at times.