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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Red5 on December 15, 2001, 06:36:00 pm
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For several months now i have been testing a experimental TC mod for Star trek armada and Armada II,using freespace ships. I am pleased to announce that a full TC mod for it can be made. I have succesfully made Freespace beam weaponry, updated sounds,races, and menus... I AM AT A STANDSTILL HOWEVER (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) because the editable models there are similar to freesspace but are much more basic, most cap ships topping at 2-400 polys. They are created in 3ds Max and they are converted with a storm plugin to .SOD. Because i do not have the 3ds max or heavy 3d model experience i will be unable to finish this mod. However, recent demand for the mod again has prompted me to create the mod. I have scaled down my initial hopes of modeling 3 races of ships with around 20-30 ships to only two races (terran and Vasudan, small shivan) and maybe 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 corvette, 1 destroyer, and some installation for each. Does anyone here at the HLP have any interest in helping with this mod at all??
A professional media producer who created the Indystar.com will be designing a A1 website for this, Ill be doing all the code work, its similar to tbl editing here on fs. Some one please consider!
BTW I will gladly supply all criteria fr these models from a tutorial that is above me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Red5 (edited 12-15-2001).]
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use only the lod1 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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That would work fine on ALL models, but i HAVE NO IDEA HOW to convert the LOD 1 from .COB to .3ds to .SOD... would anyone care to do this for me ? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by venom2506:
use only the lod1 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
And delete some or all of the turrets....that'll save you a bunch of polys as well.
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I've never seen the .sod converter.
But first get one of the .pof to cob converters from volition watch.
*waits for someone to start pimping their proggies again*
Then you can save it as a .scn I think and directly import it to 3DS max.
Then you edit it to your hearts delight.
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Originally posted by Shrike:
And delete some or all of the turrets....that'll save you a bunch of polys as well.
lod1 don't have turrets, only the main lod (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
btw Red5, I think you can choose if PCS will keep the lods or not.
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Thnx all, but i dont have 3dmax, if i find the plugin for the .sod, would anyone convert them for me, it would take 5 min to do and 5 min to dl the plugin!
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Lod1 has turrets.
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
Lod1 has turrets.
no, only main lod.
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Im sure ONE lod1 had a turret on it or mabey that was just the name, anyway, no turrets on lod1 one, he's correct...
(modelers are too lazy at V, they cover it up with this thing about polys! Sheesh!)
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Originally posted by Kitsune:
I've never seen the .sod converter.
But first get one of the .pof to cob converters from volition watch.
*waits for someone to start pimping their proggies again*
Then you can save it as a .scn I think and directly import it to 3DS max.
Then you edit it to your hearts delight.
I dunno about the newer versions, but MAX R2.5 only reads .3ds, .prj, .dxf (with some tweaking, but it increases poly count dramatically), .ai (adobe illistrator), .shp, .wrl, .wrz (wrl and wrz are VRML), and .stl (StereoLitho).
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Actually, 3.0 handles .cob too. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Just go to 'import'. Then select what you're after.
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~Space Kitsuné
6-tailed modder.
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
Im sure ONE lod1 had a turret on it or mabey that was just the name, anyway, no turrets on lod1 one, he's correct...
(modelers are too lazy at V, they cover it up with this thing about polys! Sheesh!)
Big turrets are on LOD 1 of the Orion & Colossus if IRC, probably also the Hecate and maybe the Deimos.
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If you want, use the main LOD, but delete all turrets, and just make the beams fire out of wherever they used to be.
The turrets alone all together on the Iceni are about 200 polys.
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Originally posted by venom2506:
lod1 don't have turrets, only the main lod (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
btw Red5, I think you can choose if PCS will keep the lods or not.
Actually, some ships have turrets on LOD1.
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Well HUGE turrets look odd when not there...
I never put turrets on LOD1 sofar but I havn't made any HUGE turreted ships yet
You dont need to make a LOD fire turrets, whoever said that, it does it anyway (well it does on mine), the LOD just replaces the IMAGE not the properteys.
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200? ummmm... I just put a first part model together, the main hull is about 550, after adding the MAIN turrets it was 2000! I still have to add 9 turrets, wonder what Ill delet for the LODs.... ummmm... warship... *drools*
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What the hell were you using for turrets? And how many did you have? Geez.....
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6 - 4 super heavys and 2 super lights
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Super-lights? Turrets are already pretty small sometimes, y'know.
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So is anyone interested in making some freespace conversions to star trek armada??
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
6 - 4 super heavys and 2 super lights
6 turrets? For 1450 polys? What the hell were you thinking, boy!
Low polycount = good.
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Well, find me the converter and I'll do it for you.
I've got armada myself so I'll be able to test them too.
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~Space Kitsuné
6-tailed modder.
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The ship im building is mainly for looks and style, I was thinking of putting it into the contest thingy, how do I do that?
the latest model is a missile launcher - 920 polys each - thats not going to work, gonna have to ditch the covers... Ill keep them if the model contest actually has space for a low poly model... (not 8 billion or whaterever you guys seem to make)
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And a super light is better than a heavy! its just small that a super medium and a super heavy.
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Well, I found a place for plugins and such. It says it has the one you're after.
I'd experiment with them now, but I have work to go to.
http://www.swissquake.ch/stamods/tools.shtml ("http://www.swissquake.ch/stamods/tools.shtml")
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~Space Kitsuné
6-tailed modder.
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
The ship im building is mainly for looks and style, I was thinking of putting it into the contest thingy, how do I do that?
the latest model is a missile launcher - 920 polys each - thats not going to work, gonna have to ditch the covers... Ill keep them if the model contest actually has space for a low poly model... (not 8 billion or whaterever you guys seem to make)
Well, if you're going to put it in the contest, don't worry about polycount. Just go nuts. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Great now to find some one capable of doing it!!
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Great now to find some one capable of doing it!!
Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
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~Space Kitsuné
6-tailed modder.
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OMG i APOLOGIZE KITSUNE... I thought u said u found a plugins page... First off all i want to thank you for that, but even more so for offering assistance to this... Ill see that u get the Sodding Tutorial, i know ur a modeling genius but it tells abouts is Hex things for its weapon and engine hard point hehe... I had better email ya! anyhow thnx a bunch, expect an email soon!
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Well, as it turns out, I may not have net access after tonight.
Unless I can get ahold of AT&T monday morning or something I'm kinda screwed.
Moving SUCKS!
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I'm sorry to hear that Kitsune (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) i'll do whatever it takes to keep you online ok, ill even make u an aol screen name (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)