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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: FreeTerran on June 17, 2003, 01:11:45 am

Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: FreeTerran on June 17, 2003, 01:11:45 am
Ok guys the beam is not finished at the moment but i want know what you think about the beam......
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_6.jpg)
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_7.jpg)

the name is judgment beam its the strongest beam that the alliance have....

so what do you think ?
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Knight Templar on June 17, 2003, 01:37:03 am
Looks more pinpoint-accuracy/pointy rather than blunt power. Although, I must say, the beam itself looks exceptional.
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 17, 2003, 01:49:16 am
It will be wider, bigger, meaner....:D
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 17, 2003, 02:49:05 am
I'd say make it a bit wider, and possibly at bit wavy, as the huge amounts of power are hard to contain, or some excuse like that.:D
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 17, 2003, 04:26:41 am
We allready have the HE-Green* beam and it's really powerfull and REALLY wavy. The third* most powerfull beam, but has long range, long lifetime and a decent fire wait...

* High Energy

* The Plasma Particle beam is the second one. It has short range, VERY short lifetime (1.5 - 2 sec), but does BIG BIG damage!
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 17, 2003, 04:28:28 am
Sort of a "get too close and you get this down your throat" beam, then?:D
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: FreeTerran on June 17, 2003, 06:09:31 am
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_8.jpg)
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_9.jpg)
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_10.jpg)
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/FreeTerran/screenies/judge_11.jpg)

Now its wider...
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: redsniper on June 17, 2003, 12:46:06 pm
It looks good, but it still doesn't look like the most powerful beam
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2003, 01:24:09 pm
Looks very nice, but somewhat weedy... i don;t think you can really get the desired effect of raw power - at least not in a static screenshot - using dark colours like blue.  IMO you need to make the centre much, much lighter to make it look more 'hot' - i.e close to white.  I think this works ok;

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/s_finsc12.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/finsc12.jpg)

Of course, you also run the risk of making it look a bit to generic - pretty much every beam in FS2 looks that way, too.

Judgement Beam isn't a very good name, though.  Too long for any sort of practical use (would end up being shortened to 'JBeam' or something).
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Knight Templar on June 17, 2003, 02:39:07 pm
ooh yeah, If you're going to name a beam, you're going to want to give it mroe of a designation, or type (i.e. Type XII Phasers or whatever). It would sound kind of silly if the Federation or the GTVA for that matter had "Murder Torpedoes" or "Judgement Beams".
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Cyber Phoenix on June 17, 2003, 03:50:39 pm
The beam looks very well done :yes:
But by looking at it, it looks more like a surgical strike weapon not like an brute force beam, otherwise very good...
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 17, 2003, 04:17:13 pm
Those are some very square explosions...


Anyway, I like the beam the way it is. Looks very... compact. Higher cohesion, which would give it much more power, actually.
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Solatar on June 17, 2003, 05:19:26 pm
Very nice looking beam, but it looks like it is more of a high-powered cutting laser than a uber powerful everything killling weapon. make it wider, and make the white part wider.
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Havock on June 26, 2003, 07:35:02 am
perhaps make some "static" effects along the beam?

or, is it possible to begin with that "little" dark blue beam, and you can hear it charging up power, then after about 3 seconds: BWAM it just widens up.
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 26, 2003, 12:26:31 pm
I played  bit with the Zadd and Flicker and actually got a lightning effect!
The beam dances around like crazy.....

"Beware the wrath of the GTD Zeus!"

EDIT: I allso made a particle beam, where little white paticles swirl around the beam..looks cool
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Taristin on June 26, 2003, 12:37:12 pm
screenies
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: diamondgeezer on June 26, 2003, 02:18:31 pm
Aldo, is the Ogodad supposed to have a giant beam cannon or am I missing something? And... that's not Pellestrom's Mega Beam, is it?
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Killfrenzy on June 26, 2003, 02:30:05 pm
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Originally posted by TrashMan
I played  bit with the Zadd and Flicker and actually got a lightning effect!
The beam dances around like crazy.....

"Beware the wrath of the GTD Zeus!"

EDIT: I allso made a particle beam, where little white paticles swirl around the beam..looks cool


HOW?? I'd like/need to combine both for a new beam-esque weapon. Now that the 'swirling helixes' idea for the SCP doesn't seem to have been successful, I'm after new ideas!
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 27, 2003, 05:15:28 am
As for the particle beam - I actually just made a special pcx, where I added white dots around the main beam. They don't exactly swirl, but it still looks good in the game.....

As for the lightning effect.. i tried it on the Judgment beam....
I'll post a screenie..later
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: SadisticSid on June 27, 2003, 09:59:14 am
(http://jeff.re4lity.net/images/prototype-beam.jpg)

Our biggest beam, although a prototype version (the final one should look much more photogenic).
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 27, 2003, 12:53:48 pm
Terran, something's wrong with my FRED...
Do me favor...
Set the Judgment Beam's Flicker and Zadd like this:
- for the firts pcx, Flicker 3.0, Zadd 3.0
- for the second pcx, Flicker 4.0, Zadd 4.0

Test it and post a screeny, will you?
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: Killfrenzy on June 27, 2003, 05:08:31 pm
Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
As for the particle beam - I actually just made a special pcx, where I added white dots around the main beam. They don't exactly swirl, but it still looks good in the game.....

As for the lightning effect.. i tried it on the Judgment beam....
I'll post a screenie..later


Ah yes, but what exactly did you DO? As in Tbl stuff. I'd really like to know because it would REALLY help me! :D
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: aldo_14 on June 27, 2003, 07:02:39 pm
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Aldo, is the Ogodad supposed to have a giant beam cannon or am I missing something? And... that's not Pellestrom's Mega Beam, is it?


Yup, and yup.  It's all in the CoW story.
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: J.F.K. on June 27, 2003, 10:51:01 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Looks very nice, but somewhat weedy... i don;t think you can really get the desired effect of raw power - at least not in a static screenshot - using dark colours like blue.  IMO you need to make the centre much, much lighter to make it look more 'hot' - i.e close to white.  I think this works ok;

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/s_finsc12.jpg) (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/finsc12.jpg)


Hey Aldo, that looks sweet - without the HUD, and it'd be a pretty sweet render. :)
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: TrashMan on June 28, 2003, 04:35:30 am
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy


Ah yes, but what exactly did you DO? As in Tbl stuff. I'd really like to know because it would REALLY help me! :D


Look above...

I set real high Zadd and Flicker values.
Take a blue beam and try ... I don't know if it will work by you...
Title: Heavest Dota Beam
Post by: FreeTerran on June 28, 2003, 04:47:01 am
Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
Terran, something's wrong with my FRED...
Do me favor...
Set the Judgment Beam's Flicker and Zadd like this:
- for the firts pcx, Flicker 3.0, Zadd 3.0
- for the second pcx, Flicker 4.0, Zadd 4.0

Test it and post a screeny, will you?


Ok i will now