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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Zeronet on June 18, 2003, 03:01:43 pm

Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 18, 2003, 03:01:43 pm
Terran Syndicate Alliance Cruiser, for my Nodewar campaign im working on.

(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/cruiser.jpg)

(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/cruiserside.jpg)

(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/cruiserfront.jpg)


Thoughts? There are some things that i can see that might need changing, though im unsure.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 18, 2003, 03:06:22 pm
Hmmm. :yes:

Ramming frigate, is it?
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 18, 2003, 03:12:43 pm
Where's the GTD Cube when you need it?


Anyway, detail. It has none, it needs some. Alternately, you can leave out the detail, and make it look like that was intentional, which it doesn't right now.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 18, 2003, 03:14:12 pm
I like the lack of detail, it's like the Oliver Hazard Perry class. Simple design to allow mass production in even the smallest of shipyards.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 18, 2003, 03:16:17 pm
Detail as in?
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 18, 2003, 03:16:59 pm
I assume he means turrets and what not, but clearly you haven't added them yet.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 18, 2003, 03:20:22 pm
As in greebling, as in more interesting textures, as in something that's not a barely modified cube. You could keep it as a barely modified cube, but you'd better keep all the textures more or less matching, then.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 18, 2003, 03:21:36 pm
The flat top and bottom is intentional(they'll be covered in turrets soon enough, just turreting is tricky and i want to leave that until last), as is the flat front. As it gives it a more robust look, than fancy curves.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 18, 2003, 03:23:11 pm
That's fine, but there's nothing on the surfaces, either. Complex meshes in general work better, but in this case you'd better at least have stuff to look at on the surfaces.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2003, 03:39:44 pm
trash the FS2 maps, and use something else.

btw, I'm sick of seeing FS2 maps everywhere.

edit: where are the engines?
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 18, 2003, 03:53:27 pm
Texture is temperory while i wait for wEvil to find his TSI texture and while i find some other textures from somewhere, i thought it would be better than white. The engines are at the back in a rectangular alcolve i made for them.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Ace on June 18, 2003, 04:10:40 pm
I'd put some spinal mounted beam cannons on the front of the ship, just to give it some punch.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: mikhael on June 18, 2003, 04:22:15 pm
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Originally posted by Ace
I'd put some spinal mounted beam cannons on the front of the ship, just to give it some punch.


What he said. And angle the front edge. :)
Title: Re: Cruiser WIP
Post by: J.F.K. on June 19, 2003, 05:06:33 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet
(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/cruiserside.jpg)


(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/gtd.jpg)

Well, I sure can't decide... ;)
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Turnsky on June 19, 2003, 05:20:55 am
I Shall name this ship: GTD Doorstop:p
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 05:36:33 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky
I Shall name this ship: GTD Doorstop:p


:blah: wow your funny, wait no, your not.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 05:50:34 am
(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/corvette.jpg)

(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/corvettefront.jpg)


Personally, i don't think it resembles a doorstop or cube now.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Turnsky on June 19, 2003, 05:52:00 am
okay you got me there..

just teasing BTW..
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 19, 2003, 05:56:00 am
That does look much better.:yes:

It somehow looks Taiidan to me...
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Turnsky on June 19, 2003, 05:56:55 am
same here... taiidan HC?
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 19, 2003, 05:57:59 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky
same here... taiidan HC?


Yeah, it must be those wings wotsits.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Sheepy on June 19, 2003, 09:33:42 am
doesnt look very tesser to me ....

*cant wait to see the tyranous(sp?)* mmmmmmmmmmm glowmaps :D
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 01:51:59 pm
It probably won't be a TSI ship. The main problem with it as far as i can see, is textures. Im not good at making textures and i need some new ones for the TSI.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Nico on June 19, 2003, 02:07:20 pm
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Im not good at making textures  


that, my friend, isn't a skill you're born with. you have to work to acquire it, it's that simple.
make a map. it might suck, but still, make it. give it a day or two, then go back to it, you'll look at it with "fresh" eyes. work more on it, change what's wrong, etc. and again, and again, until you're pleased with it.
you'll NEVER get exactly what you want if you don't do it by yourself, that's an obvious fact.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 02:14:46 pm
I was intending to do that.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 04:06:07 pm
Made it wider.

(http://www.odeauk.fsnet.co.uk/mike/widercorvette.jpg)
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Ashrak on June 19, 2003, 04:07:03 pm
Thats starting to take a look of a Kushan Firelance frigate ;)
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: karajorma on June 19, 2003, 04:07:42 pm
Definately an improvement :yes:
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: karajorma on June 19, 2003, 04:09:11 pm
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Originally posted by Ashrak
Thats starting to take a look of a Kushan Firelance frigate ;)


Why is it that every ship reminds someone of a Homeworld ship? Not to mention that this weird phenomonen is only going to get worse when Homeworld 2 comes out!
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 19, 2003, 04:15:13 pm
It's because HomeWorld is such a great game, that everyone has been brainwashes by it, or something.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: mikhael on June 19, 2003, 04:16:39 pm
Homeworld was acceptable, but it wasn't THAT hot.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 19, 2003, 04:20:03 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael
Homeworld was acceptable, but it wasn't THAT hot.


[Homer Simpson]I know you're upset, but I'll pretend you didn't say that.[/Homer Simpson]
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Nico on June 19, 2003, 04:36:15 pm
I didn't like homeworld, sue me.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 19, 2003, 04:37:21 pm
I'll do more than that, I'll send the Bentusi after you.
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Post by: Zeronet on June 19, 2003, 04:38:31 pm
I,ve only ever 1/2 played the demo.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: J.F.K. on June 20, 2003, 05:46:41 am
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Originally posted by Venom
that, my friend, isn't a skill you're born with. you have to work to acquire it, it's that simple.
make a map. it might suck, but still, make it. give it a day or two, then go back to it, you'll look at it with "fresh" eyes. work more on it, change what's wrong, etc. and again, and again, until you're pleased with it.
you'll NEVER get exactly what you want if you don't do it by yourself, that's an obvious fact.


True dat. Time & effort, you can never get around them if you want something good. :yes:
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Turnsky on June 20, 2003, 05:48:44 am
exactly... look at my art for instance, i worked at that(and photoshop)

it can only get better from there...;)
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Ryx on June 20, 2003, 09:17:34 am
My only problem is that the ship is, well, quite flat. It needs more extrusions and stuff. Give it more of a shape.

Unless, it's supposed to be that way. :nervous:

Oh, and I like that new texture better, than the old one. ;)
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 20, 2003, 10:41:56 am
'S probably because original Homeworld was on such an ancient engine every ship had maybe eleven polys, making anything boxy look Homeworldish.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Thorn on June 20, 2003, 04:41:40 pm
Tutorial to making a basic Homeworld ship:
Make a rectangle.
Bevel the ends.
Add some smaller rectangles in interesting locations.
Add an antenna or two.
Finished.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 20, 2003, 04:52:41 pm
It's all true.
Title: Cruiser WIP
Post by: Sheepy on June 21, 2003, 10:41:44 am
Its looking sweet mate, any chance of some different angles? and whats fire power is this puppy going to be packing?



.....hmmm sure i said that somewhere else :D