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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Corhellion on June 19, 2003, 11:22:15 am
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Greetings fellow forumers...
IT'S THE HOLIDAYS!!! YAY!!! WOOT!!! and all the rest.
However, my holidays (and a few other people from around here) didn't get off to a good start.
A fellow classmate drowned yesterday. At the same place where another classmate drowned a few years ago.
People knew the place was unsafe. But these things happen.
May I please have a moment of silence.
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Andrew "Drew" Mc Credie
1986-2003
Thank you for your time.
Cor
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Damn man, I'm sorry to hear about that - I guess if it happens that much it can't be safe to be there, but that doesnt change the fact that it's tragic. I certainly hope your holiday improves... and indeed that everyone copes ok with it.
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damn, sorry to hear that. i hope if family finds some way of dealing with someting like this.
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[insert moment of silence]
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People die. Deal.
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The world is bad to us.....:sigh:
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Originally posted by an0n
People die. Deal.
That doesn't mean you can't show a little compassion - one more commment like that from you or anyone else and I'm making motions to have you banned. People may well die, but if someone posts about it and you can't either be compassionate or shut the f*** up and say nothing at all then you can find another forum for all I care. Bitter little prick.
(note, respond to this in any way other than an apology to Corhellion for your insensitivity and I'll have motions to have you banned for that too, I'm tired of some of the people around here and their attitudes towards others. Don't have anything nice to say? Shut up or go elsewhere.)
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I'm sorry to hear that, Cor. I hope that people can cope.
Where was this place that he drowned, might I ask?
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
That doesn't mean you can't show a little compassion - one more commment like that from you or anyone else and I'm making motions to have you banned. People may well die, but if someone posts about it and you can't either be compassionate or shut the f*** up and say nothing at all then you can find another forum for all I care. Bitter little prick.
(note, respond to this in any way other than an apology to Corhellion for your insensitivity and I'll have motions to have you banned for that too, I'm tired of some of the people around here and their attitudes towards others. Don't have anything nice to say? Shut up or go elsewhere.)
Ah, well:
Fuck you.
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:sigh: *moment of silence* sorry to hear that. I hope your holiday only gets better.
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Really sorry about that dude. Hope it'll get better.
On a side note, I look forward to an0n's...erm...voluntary retirement.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
On a side note, I look forward to an0n's...erm...voluntary retirement.
:wtf:
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Dude. ****.
I know how you feel, a girl in my year died on our prom night 6 months ago - and we don't have a very big year, everyone knows each other.
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Originally posted by beatspete
a girl in my year died on our prom night 6 months ago
See, that sucks. But someone drowning after going swimming in a place they knew was lethal is just Darwinism.
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Ah Thunder/Kalfireth, just leave An0n alone, he's insensitive sometimes, but he's human too...I think...(j/k!!)
Thanks everybody...
This stuff sucks...our last exams were yesterday too...
Sorry to hear that pete...a girl was also murdered this year too...she was 15 years old...murdered by her 23 year old(I think it was around there...) boyfriend.
Hope nothin' else like this happens anymore...
Cor
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:sigh:
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Where in the world do you live, Cor?
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sorry about your loss
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Originally posted by Corhellion
Ah Thunder/Kalfireth, just leave An0n alone, he's insensitive sometimes, but he's human too...I think...(j/k!!)
I'm Human++. Maybe I'm FORTMAN, I'm not sure.
And I'm 'insensetive' because I see the big picture and thus see individual lives as being worth fuck-all.
There are CARS that cost more than people.
And how many people die every goddamn year in India when the place floods to ****? What, a few thousand? Do we sit and mourn them? Hell no. Because **** happens.
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Near...Belleville Ont.
I go to Center Hastings Secondary School in Madoc
Drew drowned in the river in Tweed Ont.
The girl was killed in Marmora
Cor
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Originally posted by Corhellion
Near...Belleville Ont.
I go to Center Hastings Secondary School in Madoc
Drew drowned in the river in Tweed Ont.
The girl was killed in Marmora
Cor
Oh, I thought you were a Scot, as it seems that a lot of these things happen on school trips and such to the Highlands.
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Originally posted by an0n
I'm Human++. Maybe I'm FORTMAN, I'm not sure.
And I'm 'insensetive' because I see the big picture and thus see individual lives as being worth fuck-all.
There are CARS that cost more than people.
And how many people die every goddamn year in India when the place floods to ****? What, a few thousand? Do we sit and mourn them? Hell no. Because **** happens.
yeah, you're like that because you don't know them. mind you, I think the same as you.
but when that happens to someone you happen to know, it's a different world, go wonder.
in any case, there's just no need to go tell others about that, they just don't need it. I hope you won't get banned for something that stupid, but I also hope you wouldn't do it again. I expect you to laugh at me or something like that, tho, unfortunately :doubt:
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Originally posted by an0n
And I'm 'insensetive' because I see the big picture and thus see individual lives as being worth fuck-all.
[color=66ff00]Most people find this kind of thing distressing, just because you claim to have a grasp on something bigger does not give you the right to invalidate how they feel.
Who's to say you're right anyway? Why is one single life worth nothing? In mathematical terms it may be one in ten million or one in a billion but to most of us one life might be worth more than any amount of cars or currency.
Most people don't think the way you do, this does not make them right and you wrong but you have to be willing to accept that it's their view, or be ignored because everyone knows that you don't care about what they think.
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this is directed at an0n, and he'll probably will kill me for this, but i need to say this.
even if your right about the fact that one life isn't much compared to the thousands that die each day in traffic, or because they don't have food, it's still a great loss for those that knew that person. now, if you can be so emotionless that you don't have to care, fine for you. but you shouldn't tell others that what they feel means nothing, not after some person died, no matter how much it was his own mistake. now, i know your family isn't really something you care about, or at least that's the impression i get from your posts. so i won't use that as an example, and i doubt you have friends your really, really care about. anyway, let's just say someone you do care about dies, because he, let's say, jumped of a bridge in a drunken state when someone dared him or her. wouldn't you feel a loss, just becasue that person with all his or her quality's is lost, to you, but to the world as well? off course, that person was an idiot for getting him or herself killed (note, i am not reffering to the subject of this thread), but even then, if you think about all the good that person might have done, isn't any dead a great loss?
ok, you'll probably see all of this as a big pile of BS, but even if you do, don't impress your views on others, especially not if they lost a loved one.
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you can't value a person to the amount of money you spent for this person, you know...
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I'd be vastly impressed that:
[list=a]- They spent their final hours out getting drunk
- The had the balls to jump
- They did so for a bet
And I'd feel honoured to have known such a person.
All that remains when we inevitably die is what people remember of us and the ripples we made in the world. No matter how nice, or evil, or calous, or friendly the person was, that is the case. The fact that we are arguing the fundamentals of death because of this guy Cor Knew is a greater testament to his life than any of this "Oh, he was a great guy. He'll be missed. We're sorry for your loss." bull**** that you all seem to revel in.
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[color=66ff00]It's not that specific person that our sympathy is targeted at, it's the idea.
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Then it's even more redundant than I had realised.
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Originally posted by an0n
car-human comparison
an0n, i find these things pretty offensive, just because you can't sopend as much on your kid as some crazy rich family does on thier car, doesn;t mean that a human bieng isn't worth more then a car. you don't buy humans. every single human being there is, no matter how ill, mentally or physicly impared, or otherwise abnormal, as good quality's to add to society. if you would just take Darwinism as you're ideology, you'd say that every slightly bad strain should be elimenated. if you do this, you take away what's human, our uniqueniss and personal bad -or good- characteristics. now, off course, you can say that our humanity isn't defined by our flaws, but by our skills. if you do, i won't bash your views, but i can't agree. if you take away every bad aspect in ahuman being, you take away their humanity.
ok, this post didn't go as it was planned, and i have to attend my schoolwork now, but an0n, if you wan't to carry on this discussion, start another topic, please. just see it as a bit of respect for the dead, ok?
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I have respect for the dead. On a school trip to the French WW2 battlefields and graveyards I was the only person (including the teachers) who didn't walk on/over/across the graves.
People are, by the very essence and fundamental nature of life, unimportant. It is their deeds which matter.
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lol, for once I am in 100% agreement with an0n; great stuff there. :D :yes:
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Originally posted by Corhellion
Sorry to hear that pete...a girl was also murdered this year too...she was 15 years old...murdered by her 23 year old(I think it was around there...) boyfriend.
Okay, no offense, but this is one WEIRD school you go to.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Okay, no offense, but this is one WEIRD school you go to.
not really, in fact ( sadly ).
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yay...I'll agree with you Stuneap...my school is ****ed up...
there was also...an...um..."incident" that happened to a guy I know.
He and his g/f (at the time)...um..."did something in the boy's change room" AND!!! (this tops it all off!) They got caught!!!! :lol:
Ok...well...An0n...I would be surprised if Kal bans you when he sees your last few posts...so, enjoy your stay until then!
And to clear up a few things:
1: Drew was probably swimming for fun with a bunch of his friends and he probably went into the rapids and got caught in the undertow.
2: I don't think he was drinking.
3: He'll be missed by all of his friends, family and his g/f...poor girl...
That's all I have to say.
*goes to play TFC*
Cor
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Originally posted by an0n
I'm Human++. Maybe I'm FORTMAN, I'm not sure.
And I'm 'insensetive' because I see the big picture and thus see individual lives as being worth fuck-all.
No, you're a dumb, terminally immature little ****wit who attempts to cover their own feelings of inadequacy with some bizarre & unconvincing attempt to put out an image of self-superiority.
Grow up and learn to respect other peoples feelings - stop posting deliberately provocative or insulting pish just to try and satisfy your apparent craving for being loathed.
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Here Here! :nod:
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Originally posted by Venom
not really, in fact ( sadly ).
In that case, I´m happy to be estonian. The worst thing we've had in the entire COUNTRY was that a couple of young 15-year-olds crashed with a car in the capital, and died. And then there was the incident with a girl who hung himself. And none of those was in my school.
And cor... the dude who died was a girl?
In that case I'm even more sorry. If this was a boy I would've thought that it was some dude trying to be "cool"
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...the guy who died yesterday WAS A GUY!
the girl who was murdered, was killed in november or december...
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Well I just watched Star Trek Nemesis again last night (for whatever reason...) So can we take a minute to mourn over Data?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Well I just watched Star Trek Nemesis again last night (for whatever reason...) So can we take a minute to mourn over Data?
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Surely celebrate?
And isn't this trivialising the issue a tad?
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dude, Data was like one of the best characters on there, and he was bound to cost more than any car.
tis a sad day indeed. :sigh:
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I'm going to lock this purely because of it's potential to go the wrong way.
In addition, an0n. I realise that you feel this way - and it's fine that you do, I won't try and change that. But this forum is public and people have feelings - it just so happens that I lost a family friend a couple of weeks ago that I've known for the last 18 (and therefore 18/19s) of my life, therefore Corhellions loss is particularly close to home since I've lost a friend recently too and the very suggestion that I should just get over it because their life wasn't worth as much as a car is incredibly insensitive. Given your attitude of "**** you" to that angle of things, I've no problem with banning you for the time being. You want to do things your own way? Do it on your own turf - but HLP is not your private stomping ground, nor is it anyone elses. I've offended nobody with my views on this - but you have. Since you won't stop, you'll have to be treated like the insensitive person that you portray yourself to be. All it really takes is to say nothing, or to offer sympathies even if you don't mean it - and people will move on and not take notice - but you have to prove that you think differently because you're under the impression we care, and guess what - you pissed people off. Now you deal with that, and if "**** you" is your best response, we'll I've news for you, you and your opinions are not as important as you think them to be, the same as everyone else - but since you won't think about that, you'll have to be treated as you bought upon yourself. Now you deal.
(and on that note, I'm going to sleep)...