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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: mikhael on June 23, 2003, 10:55:06 am

Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: mikhael on June 23, 2003, 10:55:06 am
So if you had built this virtual cockpit (http://members.chello.nl/~s.ferris/) to enjoy your flight sims, why in the name of all that is sacred (like Legos, bratwurst and double cream brie) would you use a skank crappy GAME STICK?

Ah well, maybe he couldn't afford the HOTAS/Cougar after he paid for all of that...
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Nico on June 23, 2003, 11:14:34 am
wooa...
and to reply, it's because it's a glider sim, don't need an hotas system, wouldn't be realistic anyway.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Martinus on June 23, 2003, 11:20:13 am
[color=66ff00]That's utterly insane. The only thing more mental I've seen in that 'field' is a guy who built his own force feedback flight yoke to go with his 6 screen cockpit, it was quite impressive.
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Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: FreeTerran on June 23, 2003, 11:20:56 am
:lol: :eek2: :lol:
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Stealth on June 23, 2003, 11:27:35 am
that's pretty tight :D
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Nico on June 23, 2003, 11:30:01 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]That's utterly insane. The only thing more mental I've seen in that 'field' is a guy who built his own force feedback flight yoke to go with his 6 screen cockpit, it was quite impressive.
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what's insane is to use that for a crappy glider sim... dunno, this thing would rule with the latest flight simulator, or flanker 2.0!
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: mikhael on June 23, 2003, 11:56:29 am
The article I read about that setup stated that he was playing MS-FlightSim200x, not merely a glider specific sim. Thus, I'm baffled. Next to the cost of that rig, some real gear would have been cheap.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: karajorma on June 23, 2003, 12:04:15 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael
The article I read about that setup stated that he was playing MS-FlightSim200x, not merely a glider specific sim. Thus, I'm baffled. Next to the cost of that rig, some real gear would have been cheap.


Perhaps he's scared of heights :lol:
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: mikhael on June 23, 2003, 12:29:05 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma


Perhaps he's scared of heights :lol:


"Real Gear" referring to a stick, not the supposed glider.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Black Wolf on June 23, 2003, 01:02:59 pm
9 PCs and 13 monitors? :wtf: even assuming he got them relatively cheap on some sort of bulk buying scheme, that's at least 5 or 6 thousand bucks there, probably more. Now, I dunno what flying lessons cost, but...
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Nico on June 23, 2003, 01:03:11 pm
well, I don't know that stick, but it sure doesn't look like crap...
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: mikhael on June 23, 2003, 01:07:18 pm
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Originally posted by Venom
well, I don't know that stick, but it sure doesn't look like crap...


Its Logitech game stick, modded to extend the shaft. Specifically, I think its a Logitech Force 3d (http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/107.gif)
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Knight Templar on June 23, 2003, 01:25:26 pm
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Originally said by KT on IRC

woa.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: elorran on June 23, 2003, 03:33:09 pm
Expensive or no, I wouldn't mind trying FS2 on that puppy :D
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Flaser on June 23, 2003, 04:01:23 pm
This guy must own a shop or smg., beside for that much you could buy a decent VR-Helmet.
Though it can give some people headaches - it gave me :doubt:.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: diamondgeezer on June 23, 2003, 06:28:25 pm
Chap called MigMan has a flight sim website, and he once had an article featuring a dude who built a complete cockpit setup from second-hand helo parts. Seems like it'd be less work to become an airline pilot...
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Unknown Target on June 23, 2003, 07:22:09 pm
Bad. ****ing. Ass.

I want one :D

BTW, except for that stick being a Logitech (you can have my Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!!:D), with all of it's bad quality control, the stick itself isn't half bad.

But to waste all that on a crappy GLIDER sim?! Give me a break, IL-2 Sturmovik, baby!
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Thorn on June 23, 2003, 07:25:07 pm
Its a Logitech Wingman Extreme...
I have the same one....
Its half decent... I just couldnt argue with the price (absolutely nothing)...
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Flaser on June 23, 2003, 07:37:04 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Bad. ****ing. Ass.

I want one :D

BTW, except for that stick being a Logitech (you can have my Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!!:D), with all of it's bad quality control, the stick itself isn't half bad.

But to waste all that on a crappy GLIDER sim?! Give me a break, IL-2 Sturmovik, baby!


Oh! Then you'd understand how hard it is to write with a single hand, for I'm "suffering" from the same problem.
BTW: Yes Saitek sticks are amaizingly good in terms of ergonomy.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Unknown Target on June 23, 2003, 08:55:22 pm
What do you mean?


BTW, I think ALL Logitech stick's rudder breaks within 2 months, and then the throttle starts to go after 3. Happened to me.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Flaser on June 23, 2003, 09:24:34 pm
Neither happened to me with my Cyborg, while I've been using it for almost two years.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Grey Wolf on June 23, 2003, 11:34:37 pm
My Wingman Extreme lasted me a good 2.5-3 years before the r(X) axis started to go and I had to replace it with my Freedom 2.4 joystick.

Mmm.... Cordless.....
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: karajorma on June 24, 2003, 02:17:15 am
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Originally posted by Thorn
Its a Logitech Wingman Extreme...


Or a Force 3D since the stick is exactly the same on both joysticks.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: J.F.K. on June 24, 2003, 03:43:12 am
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Originally posted by Stealth
that's pretty tight :D


No kidding, I think I could do with some of that :D
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: aldo_14 on June 24, 2003, 01:00:37 pm
I've had the same joystick (Wingman extreme) for 8+ years.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Dark_4ce on June 24, 2003, 01:12:09 pm
Meh.:doubt: Unimpressive. He should have used fewer monitors, around 9 (three front, two side, three back, LCD top). demolish about 3 keyboards and re arranged them around the cockpit as buttons to press. Built the cockpit frame out of wood so it surrounds you and you're in the dark except for the light from the screens and a some halogen light cables for under the button panels. NOW THAT would be the ultimate FS2 cockpit as well for any other flight sim out there.

*drools...*
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Flaser on June 24, 2003, 05:18:58 pm
Discard the monitors, build a decent virtual cockpit inside Freespace itself - and use a VR-Helmet.
Arrange keyboards, so they overlap the actuall VR-cocpit.
The two could actually be synchronised based on the helmets position using some laser-distance measure gismo....
....and I just got started - how about a decent seat with built in sticks and high-powered hydraulic suspension....
ect. Erm....for all that....
I think we should contact the army.:rolleyes:
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Gortef on June 25, 2003, 07:04:54 am
whooee, that looks nice indeed :nod:
I've seen something like this some time ago too but it was from a different person and with different controls.
Title: Beauty and the Beast...
Post by: Flaser on June 25, 2003, 12:30:06 pm
As my mother would say:

"There's one thing that's always in shortage.
 Money, honey."