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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Woolie Wool on June 23, 2003, 05:55:06 pm
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Anyone got any reskins of the Apollo or "Apollo Mk II" models or know where I can get some?
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The question should be, does anyone not have an apollo reskin. Of the top of my head, check the Hardlight Download section, Grew Wolf's forums and site, and the VWBB
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
The question should be, does anyone not have an apollo reskin.
$are you gonna answer that to anybody who asks if there's a reskin of any FS1 ship? :D
actually, I think a new model would be nice instead( a really good one I mean. no offense, but I think the one made by Dark is ugly. well it's not available anyway. that's the only ship from Dark I don't like, but man I hate it :p ).
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Infidel! You will burn for your treachery!
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Originally posted by Venom
I think the one made by Dark is ugly. well it's not available anyway. that's the only ship from Dark I don't like, but man I hate it :p ).
Meh. I always liked it, always wanted to get a copy of the model.
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(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/art/big/gallery4/apollos.jpg)
like the model, the skin's good, my only gripe is the choice of color..
the brownish color could be replaced by a blueish color
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Man, amazing as always..I wonder why hardly any of Dark's stuff was released, cause he was (still is) one of the best modders for FS.
That Apollo would be a wicked Apollo prototype for TVWP if someone was to remake it
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Reason why nothing was released: it was probably due for his camp, but he disappeared when the VBB crashed IIRC.
Prototype? looks more like a mk. II to me.
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Reminds me: I must re-upload that and update the site.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Reason why nothing was released: it was probably due for his camp, but he disappeared when the VBB crashed IIRC.
Prototype? looks more like a mk. II to me.
it IS a mark 2
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Has anyone made a decent Apollyon yet?
I remember making one using nothing but PSP, and hence it was ****e, so has anyone made a better one?
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Originally posted by Turnsky
it IS a mark 2
that was my point..........
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besides, a predassessor(sp?) would probably be more or less atmospheric capable (ala hammerhead from S:AAB)
New Foxfire up (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,15615.0.html)
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Well, it depends on your point of view I guess. Cause I doubt the GTVA would build another Apollo, seeing as they have the Myrmidon to work with.
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hmmm... perhaps.. a mk II Apollo could be a multirole fighter..
not just space superiority..
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Well the original Apollo "Often doubles as an assault type"
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well, there ya go then;)
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The Apollo Mk II has the one sign from Quake III Team Arena. They are Stroggs not?
Isn't the Apollo replaced by the Ulysses?
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i think that was more a design thing...
in other words, it's there 'cause it looked cool:p
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The Mk II appears to be Vasudan-like. Yellow engine glow and orange textures.
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Originally posted by Turnsky
well, there ya go then;)
"It is capable of many roles, including space superiority, intercept, and assault"
Sounds like a multirole fighter to me.
As for Dark's model, It's nice, but not what I wanted. I wanted either a reskin, or a very subtly different model.
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The Apollo always reminded me of the F-14 Tomcat for some reason. Only FS ship that really reminded me of a fighter too.
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* I'm going to make a heavy version of tha apollo..Have a pic somewhere...
**F-14...LUUUUUUV IT!
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Inferno has two Apollo derivatives; one, a bomber, the other, a medium fighter. Both of them are SOC ships. They won't be released with chapter 1.
(http://jeff.re4lity.net/images/Inferno/Lyre.jpg)
(http://jeff.re4lity.net/images/Inferno/ApolloDH.jpg)
Sid.
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Woo already released them, the Orpheus and the Lyre. I recall thinking their textures needed redoing. :p
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The Apollo MK II. Just as in today's society, i can see companies competing for defense contracts. There will be some fighters which never get sold. The Mig 28 from Top Gun is actually a Gruman (iirc) design called the F-20 Tigershark(not a military designation). This plane was based heavily on the F-5, had the landing gear of an F-16, and they practically stole the cockpit from an F/A-18. The moral of the story? It was and still is one hell of an aircraft, but is arguably the best fighter never sold. The United states and the rest of the world never purchsed any of em.
If there was an Apollo MK II, it lost out to the Ulysses in official GTVA military contract competition. However, mayhaps some small government within the GTVA ordered some. Something along the lines of a regional government.......they do have their own militaries. This would explain why they are scarce, but also why they exist.
Just a thought.
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That sounds reasonable to me. I suppose they'd be found in planetary defence forces, and reserve fleets, then?
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I don't think the Ulysees fared that well, actually. The NTF had a few in some missions, but it was declared a "Great War relic" in 'A Game of Tag'. By comparison, the Zeus, which was introduced at around the same time, is still fairly ubiquitous. There can't have been many Ulysees produced, or maybe a great proportion were scrapped...
Sid.
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The NTF never flew ulysses. It would be against their "Vasudans are gay" policy.
you know, because it was a joint race design and all.
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They rather used the Loki. More maneuverable, faster(surely a bit weaker, too.). It's warhead capacity is adequte to 'shoot a few and die, or kill the player'.
But the Ulysses is a bit harder to hit than the Loki.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
The NTF never flew ulysses. It would be against their "Vasudans are gay" policy.
:eek2: :shaking: TREASON! I was shot at by GTVA ships in King's Gambit then! :eek2: :shaking:
Or you could just be wrong :D
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Have a look at the posts above, you will discover a sentence somewhere: only in a few missions. The King's Gambit is one of those few missions.
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odd... hey, it's not my fault V fuct their own story :doubt:
on a side note, none of the ships in that mission are marked as hostile, rather just neutral. I always wondered why they have hostile and neutral as bassically the same thing. Shouldn't neutral make a ship... neutral?
SCP update! ;7
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
odd... hey, it's not my fault V fuct their own story :doubt:
on a side note, none of the ships in that mission are marked as hostile, rather just neutral. I always wondered why they have hostile and neutral as bassically the same thing. Shouldn't neutral make a ship... neutral?
SCP update! ;7
Neutral is the HOL setting from FS1. A hostile ship will fire on both friendly and neutral ships. Neutral ones only fire at friendly ships.
When they upgraded the engine to FS2 they left that in so that we could make HOL missions :)
As for the NTF, they may have hated the Vasudans but that doesn't mean they renounced everything that had any vasudan taint to it.
I couldn't see the Nazis not using nukes had Einstein stayed around to help them build them.
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
The Apollo MK II. Just as in today's society, i can see companies competing for defense contracts. There will be some fighters which never get sold. The Mig 28 from Top Gun is actually a Gruman (iirc) design called the F-20 Tigershark(not a military designation). This plane was based heavily on the F-5, had the landing gear of an F-16, and they practically stole the cockpit from an F/A-18. The moral of the story? It was and still is one hell of an aircraft, but is arguably the best fighter never sold. The United states and the rest of the world never purchsed any of em.
The F-20 Tigershark was a single engine aircraft that was designed by Northrop(same makers of the F-5 Freedom Fighter) as a possible replacement to the F-16. It managed to match and/or excell in just about every category of performance than the F-16 save one... cost. The F-16 was designed as an inexpensive multirole fighter, and with the upgrades it continued(and continues, JSF be damned) to receive, have kept it a top-of-the-line fighter that is also(relatively, compared to the F-15) inexpensive to maintain and operate.
Oh, and those were F-5's in Top Gun, take a good look at the exaust pipes.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
on a side note, none of the ships in that mission are marked as hostile, rather just neutral. I always wondered why they have hostile and neutral as bassically the same thing. Shouldn't neutral make a ship... neutral?
The 'Unknown' IFF is actually neutral. They won't fire on anyone, and no-one will fire on them, unless directly ordered or in self-defense. Neutral IFF is good for the HOL and also the NTF, since they won't fire on Shivans unless they absolutely have to. (Remember ETAK?) The 'All teams at war' mission flag will toss out all the IFF stuff and set each IFF to go nuts on every other one.
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
If there was an Apollo MK II, it lost out to the Ulysses in official GTVA military contract competition. However, mayhaps some small government within the GTVA ordered some. Something along the lines of a regional government.......they do have their own militaries. This would explain why they are scarce, but also why they exist.
Just a thought.
In my campaign, the TSA's Apollo II ships are basically composed of an Apollo spaceframe with Shivan internals. The GTVA has NOTHING to do with them (it just sold the Apollo design to them and the Shivan corporation Makion builds them). It easily outperforms the Ulysses and Myrmidon, and is equal to the Vesuvius.
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Originally posted by Turnsky
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/art/big/gallery4/apollos.jpg)
like the model, the skin's good, my only gripe is the choice of color..
the brownish color could be replaced by a blueish color
:eek2: :eek2:
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None of these new models is doing it for me...
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
None of these new models is doing it for me...
We don't care, we still like to look at Dark's models. They kickarse:D
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
None of these new models is doing it for me...
like he said, we don't care, they're dark's, and they 0wn. Not to mention they aren't up for download (at least I hope not :nervous: )
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The only gripe I have with these new ships, including Dark's are that the skins are all so clean... it makes them look fake. All of the V-ships are dirty... some are real dirty, and it adds that touch of realism that some of our models lack...
So slap some mud on that biotch!