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Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Black Wolf on June 24, 2003, 06:32:22 am
(http://www.game-revolution.com/download/pc/action/freespace2.jpg)

Grabbed it from here (http://www.game-revolution.com/download/pc/action/freespace2.htm)  BTW
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Raptor on June 24, 2003, 06:41:21 am
Is it the FS1 style background nebula?
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Black Wolf on June 24, 2003, 06:43:08 am
Yeah - the site's about Downloading the demo, but I always thought the demo was final version FS2, therefore using FS2 style BGs?
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Hippo on June 24, 2003, 06:45:20 am
tere was a demo, probably before the backrounds had been chnged...
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on June 24, 2003, 06:52:24 am
Isn't that the FS1 HUD, as well?
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Rictor on June 24, 2003, 06:58:56 am
Huh? Hows the FS1 background style different than the FS2 style? Anyways, it looks pretty good to me, so maybe someone ought to do the FS1 stlye (whatever that is) in FS2
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Hippo on June 24, 2003, 07:26:22 am
fs1 had 3 patterns and 3-4 colours to chose from, and the backrounds could not be positioned to easily... FS2 you choose your own backrounds... and yes, that is the FS1 hud, the FS2 ones have thinner lines..
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Fineus on June 24, 2003, 07:41:42 am
He's right - there was a purple, red, green, blue and amber background nebula IIRC - they couldn't be altered - FS2s code was altered so that background .tga files could be used for whatever purpose (hence the vastly more colourful nebula).
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Hippo on June 24, 2003, 08:09:48 am
Thunder said im right...:p  But you can still change the Bank Pitch nd Heading, but no one ever does because it doesn't matter since you cant make anything useful out of them...

Colors are asd follows
Most of the colors look the same anyway...
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Flaser on June 24, 2003, 08:41:59 am
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Originally posted by Hippo
Thunder said im right...:p  But you can still change the Bank Pitch nd Heading, but no one ever does because it doesn't matter since you cant make anything useful out of them...

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Actually they're useful for rotating the background textures, so you can have a planet similar to Neptunus with an aprox. +90 degree angle compared to the ecliptic plane.
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Turnsky on June 24, 2003, 08:46:38 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Isn't that the FS1 HUD, as well?


actually, if you look in your hud options in fs2, you can set your hud to be green, amber, or blue(not terribly sure on the blue)

my god, i'm actually being useful... what is the world coming to? :p
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: TopAce on June 24, 2003, 08:51:58 am
Something with the explosion effect?
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: TopAce on June 24, 2003, 09:06:26 am
If you have a look at FS2 manual, you would see some strange things on the pictures. Perseus with three laser banks, Subach HL-33 with level 1 damage etc. I think the guys at Volition hasn't upgraded any of the pictured they released from the testing phases.
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Hippo on June 24, 2003, 09:15:45 am
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Originally posted by Flaser


Actually they're useful for rotating the background textures, so you can have a planet similar to Neptunus with an aprox. +90 degree angle compared to the ecliptic plane.


FS1

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actually, if you look in your hud options in fs2, you can set your hud to be green, amber, or blue(not terribly sure on the blue)


Yes, but the FS1 hud is very different than the FS2 hud in terms of design and shape...

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Subach HL-33 with level 1 damage etc


have a close look at the FS2 trailer too, they have weird names for the same weapons...
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: TopAce on June 24, 2003, 09:24:56 am
I don't know why was it required to change the Subach HL-33 to 7? Isn't it mind? As for level 1 damage .... why would they write level 3 damage if nothing has level 1. It's only relative. Relatively to ML-16, the Subach has level 146 shield damage, but compared to its age, it is level 3, because the Morning Star has level 1.

Not?:confused:
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Woolie Wool on June 24, 2003, 02:22:03 pm
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Yes, but the FS1 hud is very different than the FS2 hud in terms of design and shape...

And it looks better.
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: IceFire on June 24, 2003, 03:45:50 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
I don't know why was it required to change the Subach HL-33 to 7? Isn't it mind? As for level 1 damage .... why would they write level 3 damage if nothing has level 1. It's only relative. Relatively to ML-16, the Subach has level 146 shield damage, but compared to its age, it is level 3, because the Morning Star has level 1.

Not?:confused:

Subach was actually originally called the Sidearm.  Probably changed from HL-33 to HL-7 because HL-33 didn't fit nicely on the low res HUD (and probably not the high res either).

The Cyclops was called Belial, and the Harpoon was called the Crossbow.  Numerous other things changed from FS2 Beta to FS2 retail.  The Perseus was from Kesco (Kresgie is/was an art designer at V).

That is definately a strange hybrid picture.  FS1 HUD, FS2 Hercules Mark 2 in the shield area, FS1 nebulas, FS1 explosion (although still present in FS2 - used less often).

Strange! :)
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Woolie Wool on June 24, 2003, 03:48:05 pm
More interesting name changes:

Maxim = Newton
Akheton SDG = Scalpel
Lamprey = Lich
Morning Star = Flail II
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: TopAce on June 25, 2003, 09:09:03 am
They all can be seen in the TBL file. Lich is surely the simple way of Leech, the sequel of the Flail, and the predector(or how do you write 'previous version') of the Lamprey.
The Morning star is also the sequel of the Flail, so the Flail II could have remained.(See: Why didn't they rename the Stilleto II to anything else?)

See page 28 of the manual, total chaos!
See page 21, find something that has been changed since!
Title: What's wrong with this picture?
Post by: Flaser on June 25, 2003, 12:12:24 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
They all can be seen in the TBL file. Lich is surely the simple way of Leech, the sequel of the Flail, and the predector(or how do you write 'previous version') of the Lamprey.
The Morning star is also the sequel of the Flail, so the Flail II could have remained.(See: Why didn't they rename the Stilleto II to anything else?)

See page 28 of the manual, total chaos!
See page 21, find something that has been changed since!


Predecessor TopAce.
BTW most of the "old" names indeed make sense, but I'm more happy with the new ones, since they give a character to the names...or rather "sound cooler" :D