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Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 27, 2003, 09:46:09 pm
Well, I tried to see if there was enough interest in a restart of this campaign before, and here's a second time... not to mention the last. FS2 is getting old and I feel that if a campaign gets started anytime later than this, than by the time its finished the fanbase will be long gone.

So...

I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a restart of Hidden Terror, a campaign in which the player plays as a Shivan. The campaign follows the FS2 storyline and proceeds a little after it... but it does not focus solely on the events of the FS2 storyline, there's something different, something hidden :nervous:

I'm going to be needing staffers, specifically;
1. Modellers - I might be able to do some of this myself, I've gotten slightly better, so if no one volunteers for this spot, I suppose I can suffice
2. Texturers - I've never figured out how to make textures...)
3. FREDers - I can make missions but I'm not the greatest at it
4. CBAni Animator - I can do this quite well, but I don't want to have the whole work load on me
5. Table Editor(s) - needed to make weapons, fix the shivan ships for player's use, etc.
6. Voice Crew - In case I plan on doing voice, this'll be finalized if I get enough staff in the other areas)
7. Story Editors - needed to spice up the campaign with specific info, and other similar things.

I have no doubt I'm probably missing something... I'll figure it out later.

I've decided at another try at this, mostly because of the SCP, it'll enable a lot of things to be done that weren't able to be done before. I hope there's enough interest... And I'm pretty sure I've still got a bunch of papers lying around that had all the campaign missions plotted out and stuff... though I'll still need story editors to put in some very nice details :)

Please post too, don't just vote... I don't trust votes much :)

[edit] OK, I figured out what I was missing...

Firstly, wondering if I made a website if I could get hosted by HLP

Secondly, I'm wondering if anyone here who downloaded the Hidden Terror demo when it came out while it was still running still has it... I could _really_ use those files. It would save a lot of work for one, and thats the first mission too.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Solatar on June 27, 2003, 09:59:28 pm
I can't help, but I'd definantly play this if you made it.:yes:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: J.F.K. on June 27, 2003, 10:11:05 pm
Sounds like this campaign has pretty high ambitions. Like Solatar I also can't help but would definitely provide you with a fanbase. ;)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DeepSpace9er on June 27, 2003, 10:25:26 pm
After playing the main campaign about 20 times and the Aeos Affiar about 10, its time for a new campaign for me anyway. :D  Sounds like a great idea for one. Ill still be here as a fanbase :) I think Voition should have continued on with the Freespace Saga.. but thats life.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Solatar on June 27, 2003, 11:06:11 pm
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Originally posted by DeepSpace9er
I think Voition should have continued on with the Freespace Saga.. but thats life.


I'm not even going to go into an explanation about why they didn't...
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Knight Templar on June 27, 2003, 11:41:26 pm
Between the various campaigns and secret projects and sleeping i'm involved in, I'm stretched further than a rubber band around Oprah's midrift, but, I think I might be qualified to help you out with the story. If you're intrested lemme know what you got. Also, you might want to talk to deep_eyes, I hear he's good with story work as well.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: karajorma on June 28, 2003, 03:05:00 am
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Originally posted by DeepSpace9er
I think Voition should have continued on with the Freespace Saga.. but thats life.


Check the FAQ. It's not their fault.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Thor on June 28, 2003, 10:14:57 am
Sounds cool!  Models shouldn't be too difficult, if your playing parralel to FS2, then it should just be a simple matter of making the shivan ships flyable.  And No, I can't help you with that, but if you want to bounce story ideas off me, feel free.  e-mails in the sig!
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Gloriano on June 28, 2003, 11:47:39 am
i hope you get it done and i have the demo still in my comp i could send it
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 28, 2003, 01:56:29 pm
Wow, wasn't expecting someone to still have the demo. It's been so long... This is GREAT news, makes things a lot easier for me.

Could you please either send to [email protected] (if you send it VIA email make sure you put Hidden Terror in the title, or i might think its spam) or send it to me VIA ICQ @ 95396765 , or just upload it to a website somewhere, because I'll end up doing that anyway just to give the feel.

And thanks for the interest guys, and I'd like an 'official' staffer doing story, not really someone I send things to get checked off.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Thor on June 28, 2003, 03:07:46 pm
If you have a story somewhat mapped out, but just lacking the details, I might be of help.  What would be the requirements of the staff story guy?
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 28, 2003, 04:17:07 pm
Requirements would be a willingness to go into FS2 and figure out how things worked out with a timeline, and make adjustments to the story, to check the mission's validity to the main fs2 storyline. Apart from that, you got to have an imagination to at least try and spice things up, adding some suprises, etc...
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Hudzy on June 28, 2003, 04:46:13 pm
Go for it :D Hidden Terror was the first campaign that caught my interest, real shame when it got cancelled.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Sandwich on June 28, 2003, 05:10:21 pm
Hehehe - looks like someone has a fanbase. ;)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on June 28, 2003, 06:10:54 pm
Egad... not this campaign again... :rolleyes:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 28, 2003, 07:10:33 pm
:lol: shut up Snipes :D
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Sandwich on June 29, 2003, 04:49:33 am
ROFL!!
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Gloriano on June 29, 2003, 08:26:49 am
i send it to you VIA Icq
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 29, 2003, 12:30:05 pm
Alright, what time will you get on? I try and stay on ICQ all the time, but when I play any games I get off b/c when people message me it screws the game up.

Give the time with a GMT or just give me it in -5 GMT(EST) - my time zone


Oh, and Sandwich, what good is a fanbase without any workers :p
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Sandwich on June 29, 2003, 03:48:19 pm
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
Oh, and Sandwich, what good is a fanbase without any workers :p


Well, there's always the "You want to see this thing completed? Put in a helping hand!" guit-trip. :p
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 29, 2003, 03:55:03 pm
That only works with a fanbase that knows how to do FreeSpace modding :p  All the people who know how to do stuff now are already involved in as many projects as they can handle... so... :sigh:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on June 29, 2003, 06:25:35 pm
Well, that's not completely true... I'm not actually doing anything atm, but I'm still useless. ;)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 29, 2003, 06:50:26 pm
That's for sure :D


But, if I don't enough people, its a no go... I wish I could do it all myself, but I just can't. :blah:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Gloriano on June 29, 2003, 11:02:41 pm
hey guys this is something Great playing as shivan and now one can`t help him jesus guys dragonclaw needs help
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Garfield3d on June 29, 2003, 11:29:11 pm
"hey guys this is something Great playing as shivan and now can help him jesus guys dragonclaw needs help"

How? I don't mean to sound ambiguous or even caustic, but how can we help? I'm sure there are a lot of us who want to help, or wish that this project goes well, but someone has already mentioned the truism that most of the modders are already stretched into other projects.

While I'd personally love to help, as my summer is hitting a lull, I can't see myself as anything more as a proof-reader (and I actually really do hate spelling and grammical errors in campaigns... like... "necissary".)

In any case, good luck! It sounds uber cool. What I'm curious, though, is how will you pull off the dialogue? Are we assuming that communications can be "adapted" to perfect English, or are you going to try something ambitious like whittle the syntax down in the dialogue?
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 30, 2003, 12:23:50 pm
Thanks to Gloriano I got the old public beta - the first mission from him :)

I haven't played it yet myself since I released it, and haven't edited any files, so it should still work. So, here's the link:

http://swooh.com/peon/DragonClaw/public/HiddenTerrorPublic.rar

Enjoy, but please... I need help if I'm going to finish it.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on June 30, 2003, 12:44:29 pm
Wait a minute... you released a mission as a demo without actually trying it?


LOL@J00!:lol:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Knight Templar on June 30, 2003, 01:12:16 pm
He meant he hasn't played it since he released it the first time.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 30, 2003, 01:15:25 pm
Snipes, go to hell. :p   Rather, learn to read. KT got it right.

:lol:

Btw, I just played it again, just make sure you don't go to ship loadout or it'll crash... And I noticed how bland all the mission briefings and all were, I remember I had to do that, to keep the story away from you guys :p
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: TopAce on June 30, 2003, 03:32:52 pm
I want to be a MODELLER! If you need the GTD Cube, the GVD Cylinder, or the SD Sphere, just give me a PM!  :D :) :D
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 30, 2003, 03:39:38 pm
Actually, all I need done as a minimum is 2 ships... A capital ship(heh, if you can call it that :p ) and a fighter. More shivan ships would be nice though, if someone wants to volunteer some of their models over... :p
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: TopAce on June 30, 2003, 03:47:39 pm
I was not serious, if you are telling the post above to me.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on June 30, 2003, 03:53:08 pm
I know, I was referring to everyone... Thats why I didn't PM you :)
Title: Great!
Post by: DragonClaw on June 30, 2003, 05:00:31 pm
Update!!

Venom still had some of the old project files, including 9 missions and a lot of essential files! Excellent! The missions are of course not polished, but still.

I'm still going to need the staff... mostly FREDers now... If I can leech some stuff off Woomeister I probably won't even need any modellers or texturers.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Thor on June 30, 2003, 06:46:41 pm
The story bit is probably a bit more than I can handle at the moment, so sorry on that front:( , I would have liked to have helped, bu I'm a little busy.  If I can help in any other way, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Great!
Post by: Gloriano on July 01, 2003, 10:52:54 am
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
Update!!

Venom still had some of the old project files, including 9 missions and a lot of essential files! Excellent! The missions are of course not polished, but still.

I'm still going to need the staff... mostly FREDers now... If I can leech some stuff off Woomeister I probably won't even need any modellers or texturers.


It`s good news then:)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 01, 2003, 01:54:27 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Egad... not this campaign again... :rolleyes:


I want to eviscerate you for saying that.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on July 01, 2003, 05:08:28 pm
If I knew what eviscerate meant, I might have been scared...

But as I recall, this campaign was in the works for about as long as BWO. I know, I made the banner for it on his old site...
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 01, 2003, 05:11:31 pm
You're mistaken Snipes... on a few things. The campaign was in the works for I'd say 4-5 months or a little more. The banner I was using on the site was a slight edit from a picture that Dark had made. You are obviously thinking of another project.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on July 01, 2003, 05:29:05 pm
Err... no, I made a banner with a... damn I can't remember the name of the fighter... the small maneuverable one... DRAGON... thats it... with a red background...
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 01, 2003, 05:40:24 pm
Heh, must have replaced it with the one from Dark then, it was started on March 2001, and I had to cancel it in June 2001 though because of the hard drive crash. Thats 4 months. Not even close to being as long as BWO.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on July 01, 2003, 05:52:50 pm
bah! I don't care...  I rarely play FS anyway...
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: pyro-manic on July 01, 2003, 09:27:34 pm
I'll FRED if ya want - give me something to work on and I'll give it a shot! :):yes:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Nico on July 02, 2003, 02:31:35 am
Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
If I knew what eviscerate meant, I might have been scared...


heh? even I know what it means w/o checing in a dico:
tearing guts away from your belly :p
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Taristin on July 02, 2003, 07:58:47 am
Yeah, I was too lazy to look it up... Then I forgot... :rolleyes:
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Darkage on July 02, 2003, 02:31:24 pm
I'll help.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 02, 2003, 03:03:02 pm
Woot, people to help!

Darkage, you're already filled in :p

Pyro, do you have ICQ or any other messenger program I could talk to you with?
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Sandwich on July 02, 2003, 04:24:23 pm
Great to see people signing on, DC. :)

* resumes lurking *
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Darkage on July 02, 2003, 05:08:46 pm
So far done by me:

Added the new Mainhall music
Added Shivan persona's ( only need to ask the SCP team to add "Shivan" the persona names )
Tweaked allot of mission 1.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 02, 2003, 07:25:34 pm
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Originally posted by Darkage
Added Shivan persona's ( only need to ask the SCP team to add "Shivan" the persona names )


I need a Shivan persona to replace Wingman 7 in my campaign.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Solatar on July 02, 2003, 08:22:58 pm
Look in the fs port v2.1
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: pyro-manic on July 02, 2003, 08:52:17 pm
Quote
Originally posted by DragonClaw
Pyro, do you have ICQ or any other messenger program I could talk to you with?


I've never really used 'em, to be honest. Any you'd recommend?
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 02, 2003, 10:09:46 pm
Get Trillian. Runs AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, and mIRC services at the same time, quite handy, if you don't want 5 programs open at the same time.

Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/trillian/index.html)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: pyro-manic on July 02, 2003, 10:44:17 pm
Much obliged! D/Ling now.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Darkage on July 03, 2003, 04:46:05 pm
More staff.
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 03, 2003, 05:12:15 pm
[smith voice]Moreeeee[/smith]
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: DragonClaw on July 03, 2003, 06:47:52 pm
Progress being made :)

Here's a sample of our mainhall now, enjoy

(http://swooh.com/peon/DragonClaw/public/mainhallpreview.jpg)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: pyro-manic on July 03, 2003, 09:49:22 pm
:nod::yes:

Nice!

DragonClaw: Check your PMs. :)
Title: Hidden Terror Restart(2nd Round)
Post by: Gloriano on July 07, 2003, 08:23:07 am
very nice indeed:)