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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Black Wolf on June 30, 2003, 05:17:07 am
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Finally got my hands on the album a few days ago. What'd everybody think, of the album in general or the Song in particular if that's all you've heard?
Personally, I as kind of dissappointed at first listening, then I went over it again and it started to grow on me. Now I love it, hasn't been out of the stereo except when it's in my CD drive :D.
BTW, if you don't like Metallica for whatever reason, go start your own thread. I'd rather have opinions than mindless flaming.
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decent album. its a whole lot better than load and reload. not as good as the Black Album or MoP
good songs:
Frantic
Shoot Me Again
Sweet Amber
Unnamed Feeling
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Boo Metal-licka!
Yea for Alcohollica!
I haven't liked anything since the Black Alblum. I picked up St. Anger in hopes of a return, but it seems to me that they just can't do it any more.
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I picked it up a few days ago also, sweet CD.
It stays in my CD drive except when I'm playing some Bach music:nervous:
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St Anger does nothing for me at all. What does it do thats new and different? It just sounds like the same old metal clichés I'm so sick of hearing. Metallica are trying to make a come back by sounding like every metal band thats round now. And it sucks.
I'm glad St Anger isnt on many radio play-lists, when it comes on the Tv i change the channel.
Its the same old smokescreen of depression and angst covering the lack of any real depth in a message. Its not even good to listen to. Its just an image, a fashion, subtly aimed the segment of loosers the record companies can't market anything decent too.
This music should have died in the early 90's.
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Love Metallica. Hate the CD as far as metallica goes.
Pretty much what Beatspete said. The cd is just ****e. Every ****ing song sound exactly the same. The cd itself just doesn't sound like metallica at all, and instead a clique crappy up-incomming bands' demo. And don't get me started on the ****ty drums with the metallic twang on every ****ing song. And I couldn't find one guitar solo in the entire cd. The speed pissed me off. It was all the same tone, same speed throughout the entire cd. It'd be like listening to an entire album that sounded just like Fuel or Master of Puppets, over, and over, and over (the feel, not the actual songs. the songs rock, but they are really fast) and s whole album of fast tracks that suck doesn't do much for it.
I hate it when Great Bands try to 're-invent' themselves and just **** everything up. They had a great sound and I guess somewhere along the line they thought people would like something more 'new' sounding :doubt: .
I think they ****ed up this one, and although I kinda liked a few songs on the cd (st. anger. and like track 6 or 7) I really hope they try harder and do better next time.
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[color=66ff00]I was impressed enough by Load to go see them when they came to Ireland, unfortunately a band that I'd just heard of was backing them. That band was corrosion of conformity and they totally blew metallica off the stage.
Reload was a really clever name IMHO as it perfectly described the album 'a clone of load'. I reallllly don't care one bit about the new album.
I'm still jaded by the whole napster thing in any case, music sharing got those twats famous.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
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I'm still jaded by the whole napster thing in any case, music sharing got those twats famous.
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Which band are you referring to here?
Metallica was pretty damned famous long before Napster.
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Originally posted by Warlock
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Which band are you referring to here?
Metallica was pretty damned famous long before Napster.
[color=66ff00]Brief history of metallica's rise to fame:
1. metallica make tapes in garage,
2. someone gets tapes, copies, gives to friends
3. step 2 is repeated a lot
4. record company gets wind of this
5. metallica get rich as result of record deal.
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Hate it...
Some people dont know when to quit...
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I love it. It was so nice and raw, it feels almost like a live album. As far as I'm concerned, definately a keeper. Its also not the best album ever, but, hey, its Metalli-F'in-ca! I just feel really sorry for any one who bought it off listening to Load/Re-load. Anyway, only 5 more days until the day of Metal, when Summer Sanitarium rolls into Toronto, and I'll be listening to those sweet sounds that just make you want kick-arse!
Don't be :hopping: be Rockin'! :cool:
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[color=66ff00]I'm not angry, I have Kyuss to listen to. :D Those guys really know how to throw together a tune. :nod:
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Originally posted by Thor
I love it. It was so nice and raw, it feels almost like a live album. As far as I'm concerned, definately a keeper. Its also not the best album ever, but, hey, its Metalli-F'in-ca! I just feel really sorry for any one who bought it off listening to Load/Re-load. Anyway, only 5 more days until the day of Metal, when Summer Sanitarium rolls into Toronto, and I'll be listening to those sweet sounds that just make you want kick-arse!
Don't be :hopping: be Rockin'! :cool:
You know what was better and sounded even more like a live album?
yup, S&M. :p
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well they had MoP live, so i'm not complaining.
who was the idiot that didn't select The Unforgiven to be played there?
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I'll save my money for when Evanesence, Cold and Finger Eleven roll into Vancouver...
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I'd go to Sanitarium when they come to San Fran in august, but I don't have that kind of money :sigh:
And speaking of evanescense, aren't they touring with lego or some other odd pair?
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Theyre touring with the two I mentioned....
They will be anyway.. they arent now...
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I'd go to Sanitarium when they come to San Fran in august, but I don't have that kind of money :sigh:
i have the money, but for some reason they aren't coming to cleveland. the nearest stop on the tour is columbus. 3 hour drive.
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Originally posted by PhReAk
i have the money, but for some reason they aren't coming to cleveland. the nearest stop on the tour is columbus. 3 hour drive.
I live in Akron, Ohio. Its a drive no matter where the show is held.
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Brief history of metallica's rise to fame:
1. metallica make tapes in garage,
2. someone gets tapes, copies, gives to friends
3. step 2 is repeated a lot
4. record company gets wind of this
5. metallica get rich as result of record deal.
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6.metallica end up dispising the very method that made them (and other, better bands before them) rise to fame
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Originally posted by PhReAk
i have the money, but for some reason they aren't coming to cleveland. the nearest stop on the tour is columbus. 3 hour drive.
three hours ain't bad. its about two to frisco.
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/*incerts 2 cents*/
metallica sucks
/*leaves never to return*/
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]I'm not angry, I have Kyuss to listen to. :D Those guys really know how to throw together a tune. :nod:
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Kyuss are at least five times the band Metallica could never be.
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"Shoot Me Again" is a decent song... but that's all I've heard.
Anyone here a fan of Falconer?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
You know what was better and sounded even more like a live album?
yup, S&M. :p
True, very true. St. Anger isn't the best Metallica, but its solid. A friend of mine, who an amazing bass player, learned Frantic in under a week, and played it at our school amnesty coffe house. That was a site to see. Oh, his set list was For whom the bell tolls, Fight for your right to party, and Frantic. Killer! They kicked the crap out of the little punk wannabes who played later. St. Anger, I think, won't be remebered as the greatest album Metallica ever did, that's still [argubaly] the black album, or whatever. Its the songs that will be remembered. Frantic, Sweet Amber, Some Kind of Monster.... Those are sweet songs, and will be that much sweeter live. It was also an album that had to grow on some people, my drum teacher, for example, was unsure, but now can't get enough. The one thing I've discovered is that musical taste is one of the most personal things ever, i'd say even more so than religion. No two people like exactly the same bands, always. Take my friend, the bass player. He got me hooked on Rock, and I've gone from there. He has made numerous sugestions in the record store that I have found to be accurate. But, everynow and then, our tastes diverge. He listens to some stuff I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, while he dislike some of my stuff with a passion. So I'll try not to take all the Metallica bashing personally, but The hour drive, half hour subway ride, long line, putting up with the trash that is Limp Bizkit, to go see Metallica is so worth it to me.:cool:
Now what are these two other bands that yoou've mentioned?
I'm intrigued.:confused:
Falconer: I think I've heard the name
Kyuss: Not a clue
What should I check out from them. I'm always willing to give new music a go.:yes:
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bah. New Queensryche album to come soon.
nuff said.
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Originally posted by Thor
A friend of mine, who an amazing bass player, learned Frantic in under a week, and played it at our school amnesty coffe house. That was a site to see. Oh, his set list was For whom the bell tolls, Fight for your right to party, and Frantic. Killer! They kicked the crap out of the little punk wannabes who played later.
if i knew how to play guitar i would have kicked the crap out of the bands at school if i played those too, i would have added Orion, One, or Seek and Destroy though. possibly with the exception of one of my friend's bands who did rather well in a competition a few months ago, but they are a hard rock/goth type band like korn
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Originally posted by Venom
bah. New Queensryche album to come soon.
nuff said.
Queensryche haven't done anything remotely decent since Operation:Mindcrime. Even that wasn't too great.
Kyuss, for whomever was asking, were the band that pretty much spawned the whole of the stoner rock movement, also a great place to hear what a certain Mr Joshua Homme is capable of on guitar.
Listen to the following songs by them:
Tangy Zizzle
Phototropic
Space Cadet
Demon Cleaner
50 Million Year Trip (Downside Up)
Green Machine
That should give you a feel for the band.
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[color=66ff00]Maeglamor's Kyuss cookie instructions:
Get one kyuss album.
Get a really loud stereo with uber bass.
Mix with abandon.
Enjoy.
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Originally posted by 01010
Queensryche haven't done anything remotely decent since Operation:Mindcrime. Even that wasn't too great.
matter of taste. To me Operation Mindcrime was brilliant, Empire a wonder, and "take another title" was "put another stupid superlative here".
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Here goes:
St Anger: Only heard the first two songs properly. Frantic was OK, but it needed a solo or a turnaround section half-way through to break it up a bit. The title track could, and should have been a hell of a lot better than it is. It sounds (in the words of Kerrang! magazine) like it was recorded at the bottom of a wheelie bin. The production is bloody awful. There's no clarity in the sound at all - the guitars are so distorted that the sound actually breaks up at some points, and the drums are horribly overblown. As for the bass, they might as well have not bothered replacing Jason at all - you can't hear it.
I think Metallica have cocked up with this album - you can hear the potential on some of these songs, but they've been recorded terribly, and they've wasted their talents - Kirk Hammett with no solos, Hetfield with no decent rhythm parts, and Rob Trujillo - ROB F***ING TRUJILLO - without a single bassline you can actually hear properly. Only Lars manages to show his skills, but on a kit that sounds as though it's made of plastic.
I just hope that the next one they do has some of the aggression of this one, combined with the production of "the black album" and the energy of "...Puppets". THAT would be an album worth getting.
I'm waiting for the debut album from The Darkness (glam rock crossed with Queen, anyone?:cool: ), which is out on Monday. Stand-out track - "Get Your Hands Off My Woman Motherf***er". Awesome - get it or miss out on something spectacularly good. Then the next big one is the new Iron Maiden album, Dance of Death, which is out in september. It's gonna kick ass...
Other cool bands you might not have heard of:
:yes:Morcheeba - wierd, but sweet-as to listen to...
:yes:Hundred Reasons - the best British band for years. Heavy and happy - what more could you want?
:yes:The Wildhearts - this band make the loudest f***ing noise I've ever heard. I was deaf for three days after going to their show at Cardiff university. They're an awesome bunch of crazy Geordies, and really nice people, too!
Check 'em out, you won't be sorry.:nod:
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What to check out by Falconer? Hrm, probably anything off their first album(s/t). My fave off the album is "Entering Eternity," my girlfriend's fave is "Wings of Serenity." Though, truth be told, pretty much everything off their first album is probably excellent(I've heard a lot, but not most. They get no air time in the U. S.).
I've heard a variety of opinions on their second album(Chapters From a Vale Forlorn), and they are basically either: "it's ub0rz suckz0rs" or "it's ub0rz rockz0rs." I've only heard one song off of it("The Clarion Call"), so I'm not going to say one way or another at this point in time, other than that I enjoyed that song.
As for the band itself? They're a Swedish power-metal band composed of two former members of MITHYON(from what I understand they were a pretty good nordic/rock band) and two other members whose names I have utterly and completely forgotten. I'd have to say the only thing that kinda, barely, sucks about Falconer is that they have no intention of touring.(*sniffle*)
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st anger is pretty good
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Rob Trujillo - ROB F***ING TRUJILLO - without a single bassline you can actually hear properly.
I don't remember any Metallica song where you could hear the bass properly.
I'm waiting for the debut album from The Darkness (glam rock crossed with Queen, anyone?:cool: ), which is out on Monday. Stand-out track - "Get Your Hands Off My Woman Motherf***er". Awesome - get it or miss out on something spectacularly good....
Dear God no, The Darkness are ****ing awful and the hype about them just makes me hate them more. A bunch of spandex jumpsuit wearing, ego driven pricks with a handful of re-cycled T-Rex riffs and a dash of 80's hair metal do not a good band make.
Other cool bands you might not have heard of:
:yes:Morcheeba - wierd, but sweet-as to listen to...
:yes:Hundred Reasons - the best British band for years. Heavy and happy - what more could you want?
:yes:The Wildhearts - this band make the loudest f***ing noise I've ever heard. I was deaf for three days after going to their show at Cardiff university. They're an awesome bunch of crazy Geordies, and really nice people, too
Morcheeba were good, Hundred Reasons are ok now, but when they were unsigned they were awesome, real balls to the floor metal. They appear to have softened up now though, sadly.
The Wildhearts haven't ever made a bad song.
As for more UK bands, some of the best one's no longer exist such as Earthtone9 (http://www.earthtone9.com/) , Pitchshifter (http://www.pitchshifter.com) , Medulla Nocte (http://www.coprorecords.co.uk/copro_bands/12.html) and Mahumodo (http://www.mahumodo.com/) .
However, the 80's Matchbox B-Line Disaster (http://www.eightiesmatchbox.com/) are still about and they are ****ing awesome.
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Originally posted by 01010
I don't remember any Metallica song where you could hear the bass properly.
:wtf:
you may be half right, but off the top of my head, Sad But True?
(oh oh! And Devil's Dance! :D )
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
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you may be half right, but off the top of my head, Sad But True?
(oh oh! And Devil's Dance! :D )
That was more aimed at the fact that Metallica never let the bass riff run free from the guitar riff. I don't think I've ever heard a nice little bass lick or anything in a Metallica song. Personally I always thought they were an average overrated band with a few very good songs, but because of the musical climate in the mid to late eighties, them, Slayer and Anthrax became famous.
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Rob Trujillo - ROB F***ING TRUJILLO - without a single bassline you can actually hear properly.
Um, he didn't play on the album, so that's why you can't hear him. I'm sure that he'll be heart-changingly loud Live though.
And Yes, it definately could have used solo's, many more solo's.
And poor steve was limited by time constraints, and he would have blown the crowd to Vega and back if he had played One. Keep in mind, the hardest stuff this crowd had listened to for the most part is some punk. Steve has 500 watts of Yorkville goodness to back him up. The only thing that could make that tower better is an 11!
Well, off to go see Junior, this cool little local band my drum teacher is a part of. later!
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Originally posted by PhReAk
Sweet Amber
Amber is my gf's name ;) Im just gonna dl it cause of that :D
(oh and I never said I was leaving for good ;) )
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same one you were telling me about?
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and since when did you think I have multiable gfs :rolleyes:
and, yeah, the one Im telling you about
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assuming that was supposed to be multiple (:p) people get together a nd break up all the time... I was just curious :p
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well considering this is my 7th month still going strong, I dont see anything really happening in a while:D
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what? breaking up or pin action?
;)
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
well considering this is my 7th month still going strong, I dont see anything really happening in a while:D
"looks at his neighbours daughter. just broke up, they've been together three years"
Cross fingers, pal.
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I said nothing might happen for a while, I never said I could keep this up forever :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by 01010
....the hype about them just makes me hate them more....a handful of re-cycled T-Rex riffs and a dash of 80's hair metal do not a good band make.
What's wrong with T-Rex? Huh??? And hair metal had its up-sides....:nervous: Er....
Anyway, I didn't know there was any hype - a mate gave me a compilation he made, and I liked the song.
Pitchshifter were great, 80sMB-LD are pretty good too, though they're a bit close to "garage rock":ick for my liking...
Another cool up-and-coming band are The Clams - almost Sabbath-esque on some tracks....
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1 day!!!!!!!!!
:bounce:
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
What's wrong with T-Rex? Huh???
Anyway, I didn't know there was any hype - a mate gave me a compilation he made, and I liked the song.
Pitchshifter were great, 80sMB-LD are pretty good too, though they're a bit close to "garage rock":ick for my liking...
Another cool up-and-coming band are The Clams - almost Sabbath-esque on some tracks....
Haven't heard of The Clams, I'll have to check those out, have you heard the 80'sMBD (abbbreviated for ease) album or just the singles? Because I personally wasn't all that keen on them but a friend played me the album and it's fucking great, some real heavy stuff on there.
I like T-Rex but the point I was making was that The Darkness are wank :)